I've always wondered why not count with hats at least. It's very natural and makes the grooves sound richer. And I'm not even talking about playing anything more intricate which is really cool by itself. Well maybe because I've started from jazz idk
I like accenting the upbeat 1/8ths opposite to the right hand, ala Steve Gadd/Bernard Purdie. Makes everything "bounce" and does help balance like you said.
Just wanted to mention the double hihat technique played in Marcus Gilmore’s Zildjian Live session. Wild stuff! Also wanted to shout out Chad Smith’s left foot sloshin’ around even when he is playing regular beat on the hats.
About time this channel talked about the left foot chick. And I generally agree on the ball of the foot on the pedal, but there is a sonic reason to sometimes use flat foot.
Yep, absolutely don't forget your hi hat foot. I remember seeing Anders Meinhardt and thinking wtf is he doing there? Check out Farligt by his band F.U.K.T That's some pretty amazing hi hat foot work
I grew up watching Dana in church, he was literally the few guys I personally knew of at the time that Implemented the left foot in his playing. Then I saw Sonny Emory...life changing.
Would love to see a follow up on hats in two uses, 1. When you’re playing a stick-on-hat beat, and you throw foot chick in… that blows my mind a little, and two, best use of foot-splashing (I’m not sure I’m using the right term on this latter one).
Mt Fave height pattern is splash on 1 closed on 2. Or I'd on Samba other way around splash on 2 closed on 1.. but also like 8ths for funk and hard bop. Try for the la is fun too in medium or slower jazz. As in 1 la,le for triplets.. Something to bring up I found when I played 8ths all the time it became a problematic crutch related to balance and rushing... felt freeing but need to make sure to not become ungrounded. Trick for me is to keep my heels low as you pointed out otherwise... got too floaty when I was younger.. Thanks as always
Yo I've been playing drums since i was like 13 and im 30 now. Not learning and practicing shit like this and basic rudiments when i was younger stunted my progression hard lol. So thanks for all these videos man. Luckily since i already know how to play pretty well a lot of this stuff comes pretty quickly, but ive had to do some relearning
I got so used to having my left foot going, both from playing a lot of Soundgarden and just not wanting to neglect my left foot in general, that I find a lot of things more difficult if I _don't_ play it, and, if playing odd time signatures, now I don't notice most of the time when playing it results in a polymetre. I exploited this to play a 3-layer polymetre on a Tool song I did a video on. I'm not reeeally playing it like a true polymetre in my head though; I practiced it enough that I'm more hearing the patterns that result from it and playing those back rather than limbs being on "autopilot", so to speak.
In the vein of rock, syncopation, hihats and heavy jazz chops I implore you to check out 'The Seconds' by car bomb. The drumming seems impossible but there are videos of him playing all of it flawlessly
I know he a gastly guy but: Ginger Baker. Right know I’m experimenting with a second HH on the right and a very low floor tom, kicking the left HH. I’m trying to mix some call and response or poly stuff between the BD and the low tom (played with left hand) while left foot and right hand are eights and “ands”, 😅. If you keep it fairly simple this makes for nice recordings, like there some echo involved, or two drummers doing slightly different simple groovy stuff only to come together with every snare hit. Great exercise if you want to get rid of which ever limp of yours is dominant.
I started with rock. so I was that guy. ignored the left foot for my first 3 years of playing. It took me so much time and effort to build just a good solid quarter note while improvising later on. It's definitely one of my biggest drumming regrets looking back, I should have been aware of the left foot from the beginning. if you read this and you dont think left foot timekeeping is important you should start working on it rn. its not an easy fix once you notice. Starting with jazz instead of rock probably helps a lot though
I am absolutely one of those people with an over developed left foot due to double kick playing but when i look at the hi-hat pedal i get scared. It is absolutely my own fault
It’s a reference to The Pareto Principle. From Wikipedia, "The Pareto principle (also known as the 80/20 rule)…states that for many outcomes, roughly 80% of consequences come from 20% of causes." Check out his video with Tim Ferris where he discussed this at length.
I've always wondered why not count with hats at least. It's very natural and makes the grooves sound richer. And I'm not even talking about playing anything more intricate which is really cool by itself. Well maybe because I've started from jazz idk
Hey man I really love seeing how your videos have grown in quality so well. Thanks for inspiring us drummers Nate!🥁🛢️🪘🍗
Tony playing playing it on all four beats up tempo will still blows my mind up
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Keith Carlock is also a great provider of the hi-hat groove!
Love his playing!
Thanks Nate. All good things to think about and practice.
I came up obsessed with Dave Abbruzzese and Matt Cameron as a wee lad, so I’ve always been obsessed with the hats.
More or less same here; played a lot of Matt and some of Dave and always took note to look for things to do with the left foot
@@ILikeWafflz 💯
i love playing it on the off 16th notes while playing 8ths on the ride as a funk backbeat
Exactly what I was looking for! Thanks
This is exactly what I needed!
This was excellent!! Thank you.
I like accenting the upbeat 1/8ths opposite to the right hand, ala Steve Gadd/Bernard Purdie. Makes everything "bounce" and does help balance like you said.
Yeah on the down beat the sound can get drowned down bye the snare and cymbals
jimmy chaimberlain does this sometimes
Just wanted to mention the double hihat technique played in Marcus Gilmore’s Zildjian Live session. Wild stuff!
Also wanted to shout out Chad Smith’s left foot sloshin’ around even when he is playing regular beat on the hats.
About time this channel talked about the left foot chick. And I generally agree on the ball of the foot on the pedal, but there is a sonic reason to sometimes use flat foot.
yup. This is general purpose advice, but there are a lot of extended techniques
Yep, absolutely don't forget your hi hat foot. I remember seeing Anders Meinhardt and thinking wtf is he doing there? Check out Farligt by his band F.U.K.T
That's some pretty amazing hi hat foot work
I grew up watching Dana in church, he was literally the few guys I personally knew of at the time that Implemented the left foot in his playing.
Then I saw Sonny Emory...life changing.
Would love to see a follow up on hats in two uses, 1. When you’re playing a stick-on-hat beat, and you throw foot chick in… that blows my mind a little, and two, best use of foot-splashing (I’m not sure I’m using the right term on this latter one).
Mt Fave height pattern is splash on 1 closed on 2. Or I'd on Samba other way around splash on 2 closed on 1.. but also like 8ths for funk and hard bop. Try for the la is fun too in medium or slower jazz. As in 1 la,le for triplets..
Something to bring up I found when I played 8ths all the time it became a problematic crutch related to balance and rushing... felt freeing but need to make sure to not become ungrounded. Trick for me is to keep my heels low as you pointed out otherwise... got too floaty when I was younger..
Thanks as always
I needed this . TY Nate.😎
Yo I've been playing drums since i was like 13 and im 30 now. Not learning and practicing shit like this and basic rudiments when i was younger stunted my progression hard lol. So thanks for all these videos man. Luckily since i already know how to play pretty well a lot of this stuff comes pretty quickly, but ive had to do some relearning
I got so used to having my left foot going, both from playing a lot of Soundgarden and just not wanting to neglect my left foot in general, that I find a lot of things more difficult if I _don't_ play it, and, if playing odd time signatures, now I don't notice most of the time when playing it results in a polymetre.
I exploited this to play a 3-layer polymetre on a Tool song I did a video on. I'm not reeeally playing it like a true polymetre in my head though; I practiced it enough that I'm more hearing the patterns that result from it and playing those back rather than limbs being on "autopilot", so to speak.
In the vein of rock, syncopation, hihats and heavy jazz chops I implore you to check out 'The Seconds' by car bomb. The drumming seems impossible but there are videos of him playing all of it flawlessly
Also - It's very nice to do the HH foot, just on the "and". Creates a kind of off beat shaker feel.
I like to replace a bass drum note with a stepped hat sometimes. Sounds great on the 16th before a snare hit. Shout out to Gary Chaffee for that one.
I know he a gastly guy but: Ginger Baker.
Right know I’m experimenting with a second HH on the right and a very low floor tom, kicking the left HH. I’m trying to mix some call and response or poly stuff between the BD and the low tom (played with left hand) while left foot and right hand are eights and “ands”, 😅. If you keep it fairly simple this makes for nice recordings, like there some echo involved, or two drummers doing slightly different simple groovy stuff only to come together with every snare hit.
Great exercise if you want to get rid of which ever limp of yours is dominant.
my favorit hats drummers:
chad smith ❤
dom howard ❤
Transcribing a drum beat when you can hear and just listen to it is crazy.
Nicko Mcbrain's left foot hi hat stuff on all the 80s Iron Maiden albums should not be ignored
I started with rock. so I was that guy. ignored the left foot for my first 3 years of playing. It took me so much time and effort to build just a good solid quarter note while improvising later on. It's definitely one of my biggest drumming regrets looking back, I should have been aware of the left foot from the beginning. if you read this and you dont think left foot timekeeping is important you should start working on it rn. its not an easy fix once you notice. Starting with jazz instead of rock probably helps a lot though
Don't forget the classic Dave Weckl, "ride cymbal bell on downbeats, hi-hat chicks on upbeats" th-cam.com/video/qPzZlnA5Z9E/w-d-xo.html
I am absolutely one of those people with an over developed left foot due to double kick playing but when i look at the hi-hat pedal i get scared.
It is absolutely my own fault
I like to play hi-hat for skip beat on jazz ride
Here is a secret weapon. Being able to burn at p
I can't keep time on the hi hat because my left foot is always playing every e and a on the kick :(
More left foot hi hat work..the gate way to that hackneyed old saying..Four way coordination
Where are Meinl’s??
Don't forget your socks.
sorry why your name 80/20 drummer?
80 percent of the the professionally played songs, are played by 20 percent of the drummers in the world
It’s a reference to The Pareto Principle. From Wikipedia, "The Pareto principle (also known as the 80/20 rule)…states that for many outcomes, roughly 80% of consequences come from 20% of causes." Check out his video with Tim Ferris where he discussed this at length.
Next vid “80/20 learns double bass” oh wait that’s the equivalent to being a r*pist to a jazz player, I almost forgot
Give me a little more credit than that
@@8020drummer😂😂for sure man, just a stupid joke, idk what I was thinking honestly😂😂