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- Kirby and the Forgotten Land is almost here, so in anticipation, I'm listing every Copy Ability from my least favorite to my favorite! Which abilities do I love, which abilities can I not stand? And what do I really think about Bell Kirby? All that and more will be answered!
Thanks for watching!
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Intro (0:00)
F-Tier (1:20)
D-Tier (4:23)
C-Tier (7:32)
B-Tier (13:51)
A-Tier (17:43)
S-Tier (22:05) - เกม
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Squeek Squad is the best Kirby game. No contest.
Yes
Squeak Squad lets you eat a strawberry shortcake and then fight an evil star. 10/10
@@trubenstudios4063 No other kirby game has a plot centered around cake. 10/10 would fight people for cake again
@@trubenstudios4063 Squeak Squad lets you fight mice 10/10
Sorry, but RtDL will forever have my heart.
I would like to point out that Copy has one single additional use in Super Star (Ultra): if you find its essence first in Milky Way Wishes, you can basically throw that sub-game's entire gimmick out the window and play it like a normal mode.
Copy does have a couple more uses
In the original Superstar, the ability also does very high damage against bosses, and in both versions of the game it is also possible to get the Crash ability from Scarfy.
@@gebis8515 the helper was pretty op i think
In the arena, T.A.C had rapid-fire attacks and it was fun.
After some fact cheking, t.a.c is literally just better kirby with extreme amounts of dps against foes without a copy ability
Two more upsides that I can think of:
1. You instantly get the ability with Copy and don’t have to swallow the enemy first.
2. T.A.C. is the most broken player 2 Kirby ever had
needle being down in d-tier is hilarious because now that forgotten lands out its actually a really good ability , needle in other games yeah kinda bad but they suddenly decided top make it the best ability in forgotten land
But Saw Blade Cutter Exist
@@Magic_Ice But can Saw Blade Cutter let you go _F A S T ?_
@@dabluepittoo-aqua4213 No but Needle isn’t as fast as Tornado
But Needle handles like a dream while tornado… does not
@@wiiuandmii7619 yeah and none of them [spoilers for post endgame ability upgrades] can drain lifeforce like morpho sword. Or deal absolutely stupid amounts of damage like mask hammer.
Can’t wait for the day when they combine ESP and yo-yo into one ability. Come on Nintendo, you know you want to do it. Just give us earthbound Kirby already.
Ness Kirby?
P K T H U N D E R
PK STARSTORM
PK FIRE PK FIRE PK FIRE FIRE PK FIRE
@@jado67 dang final smash meter isn't on and smash balls are on low so I can't spam that. Unless I use a mod. PK STARSTORM , times infinity
I’d absolutely love for Cupid to return but have Archer’s ease of firing then it would be such a good ability. It’s way more original then archer.
I really want a Kirby game where *every single copy ability* appears.
Imagine Cupid, Archer and Ranger in the same game lol
There is at least 220 abilities LOL...
Star Allies came close they had a lot
exept the super abilities
Ok maybe a hot take but;
Burning > Fire
I 100% agree with your number one pick! I wont spoil it in case ppl still haven't watched your video, but in Star Allies, it's such a treat to use!
EDIT: Someone replied with a spoiler in the comments, careful!
the #1 is yo-yo
@@bakei8985 You're the worst type of person.
I love yo yo too its so fun to use
Rip that it is not at the new game
Yep, really enjoyed this video. My favourites from Kirby Superstar: Yo-yo, Mirror, Beam, Fighter, Bomb
I really liked this ranking
Some of my favorite *Copy Abilities* are *Spear, Staff, Yo-yo, Fighter & the absolute masterpiece that is Mirror*
I have one question. How do you even exist? Orange Toad doesn't exist in Mario. This breaks the laws of reality!
I love Squeak Squad’s abilities (except Metal, cool concept but annoying to play as) to death, they’re all so creative and I really hope they get brought back in a modern Kirby game. Magic most of all, but I also really want to see new takes on Bubble, Animal, and Ghost. Ghost seems like it could make a really fun player 2 mode in a future Kirby game in particular.
Yeah, especially if they make it so that it can go down ladders. I can't tell you how many times I've had to stop using Ghost because of a freaking ladder.
Ghost is one of my favorites of all time. I want them to bring it back so bad
@@theendersmirk5851 ufo moment
2:28 there’s actually 2 uses for Copy in Superstar; beyond letting player 2 play as Kirby, it also gives Kirby his copy ability back in Milky Way Wishes, and (I’m not sure if this is true in Superstar since I’ve only played Ultra) you can get it right at the start of the game, basically just making MWW an unlimited copy ability fest
But that’s it
Yes. You can do the same in superstar. Recently played it.
Copy also works on Scarfies which gives you crash (at least in ultra)
@@2445elijah and the chameleon boss (do it on his rainbow projectiles) it gives you paint which is a hidden ability
@@lemyon8293 This works with Marx too.
Imagine if they did Kirby's jet ability some justice and added homing projectiles.
OP man ...OP
wait i think jet was missed?
It’s the overall fastest and best speedrunning ability in the entire series, the only justice it needs is another appearance
A missile launcher maybe?
Jet already is Really cool
To be fair, needle got such a much needed speed boost in Forgotten Land, which made it my favorite ability in the game.
It got a speed and utility upgrade. Also it can just shred certain bosses
But Tornado exist
People be sleeping on Clown Kirby, I find it to be one the best abilities in Triple Deluxe, it's good combat wise, it's fun as hell and the hat is perfection
And Kirby gains a cluss-
nahhhh, its very hard to use since it's dash attack stays in place basically but its not that bad ig
@@eeped the big damage dealer is the trampoline which is invincible until you land and you can do it twice. Also the ball attack offers a ton of invul too. Surprised he didn’t mention it. Yes they’re just circus tricks, but when you’re invincible when doing them it changes a lot.
@@kennychen4838 trampoline is only good for flying bosses
@@eeped yeah, and most TD bosses are either flying, have airborne hitboxes(coily rattler), or are big enough that it doesn’t matter(flowery woods). The only 2 bosses in the game that might be a problem are the dedede or dark meta knight bosses, but those are a problem for the majority of abilites anyway.
Yeehaw! I’m so happy you’re my roommate and I’m so proud of the hard work you put into this video I love you man.
This is so sweet.
Sleep is weird in Forgotten Land. You can evolve it, and as well as recovering health it gives you a random temporary buff.
Once evolved it’s actually sort of beneficial to momentarily drop your current copy ability and use sleep as quick as possible to get a buff before your old copy disappears.
Spear, Water, Mirror and oddly enough missle are definitely my all time favorites
Mirror is my favorite copy ability because of planet Robobot. I literally used it for every boss in the game and the mirror counter is so good. So yeah it was definitely my go to in the game.
mirror is just broken
When I was playing milky way wishes I used mirror for the marx boss fight and legit beat him with no damage taken by just guarding
The best Kirby copy ability is Falco's Laser in Melee. Firing lasers with knockback almost faster than Fox is insane, and if Kirby ALWAYS had this ability, he'd arguably be mid-tier, not second- or - first-worst.
Now I want to see a Kirby Ability Tier List but all Smash abilities
Spark was absolutely _broken_ in Return to Dreamland because you could charge it just by shaking the Wiimote instead of mashing the D-Pad, granting you instant full charge projectiles for you to unleash whenever you want.
I think it be cool if Magic and Circus got the burning-fire treatment where they combine both of their movesets into one coherent one
Fire and Burning are both completely different attacks that both do a fire related attack while Circus and Magic are both 2 different unrelated things. And also fire and burning only really do a single attack while Circus and Magic are full fleshed movesets.
@@nintendoboy3605 facts and considering how burning and fire only exist because one move per ability
12:20 I used the leaf ability in my walk through of the harder mode of return to dreamland because of its power to block all incoming dmg. I think it's a great ability but as you said, it's your subjective tier list
Yeah leaf is definitely my favorite ability that Kirby has.
@@cometcartoons8528 me too
personally i absolutely hated yo-yo, espsecialy in super star and super star ultra.
i did that too! i really want to see this ability in a new kirby game
Squeak Squad was the first Kirby game where you could take UFO out of the stage and it was also not that hidden as it occasionally appeared in the game
I’m glad I’m not alone in loving Tornado Kirby, such a fun ability!
The fact that sleep heals you now is such a game changer
If the game was a bit more difficult and you could store abilities yeah 😂
*Kirby makes rock better than steel.*
Pokémon: Impossible!
Glad to see Sword ranks high and well on this list. It truly is a classic. Great list!
だぃてん。
I would like to focus on Sleep (and it's upgrade, Deep Sleep) for a moment. For Kirby and the Forgotten Land, not only do copy abilities exist a while after being dropped (making it viable to juggle), but Sleep got buffed since you heal while asleep (and there's a time frame you have before you fall asleep with the non-upgraded version), AND the upgraded version can heal more health quicker and a boost if you can sleep full-duration (Attack up, Speed up, Extra health bar). Combine those two facts together, and Sleep as a whole moves up from F-Tier to easy S-tier.
Happy to see Beetle so high up, ever since it's introduction it has been my favorite ability together with Mirror
I love how Drill in Forgotten Land basically became an evolution of Animal Kirby.
Squeak Squad is my favorite Kirby game and I was so upset when drill Kirby got announced for forgotten land as it’s just animal but way more basic and generic…..seriously if animal doesn’t make it in it’ll be such a missed opportunity as the main antagonists are literally called the beast pack!
Didn't stop Amazing Mirror from not having Mirror Kirby
But yeah, shame that Animal, like Paint and Cupid, probably won't be brought back and upgraded and instead be replaced by something similar but not quite the same...
With so many different Copy Abilities, it's not surprising to see that everyone has their own set of favorites. With that in mind, it was certainly interesting to hear your thoughts on what Copy Abilities you consider to be the best/worst. Great work as always!
Oh, and say what you will about Copy, but how else would you be able to get the Crash ability from Scarfies? Because yeah, that's a thing apparently!
They should remake Kirby’s moveset in smash to utilize more of these abilities. It’d be so refreshing to have a beam shot or a leaf attack or something like that.
Or choose which ability you want!
tornado, for 11-years-ago me at least, was a bit too chaotic to control, but in forgotten land it is excellent
I just discovered and binged through your channel yesterday (including the non-Kirby stuff, which are excellent btw), so this is a great surprise!
Thanks for the support! It really means a lot!
@@SilveryMP Yo-Yo appreciator AND throws shade on Star Allies?
Yep. Gonna enjoy the ride.
@@SilveryMP How about a Tier List of Kirby's Mouthful Abilities?
10:55 funnily enough, despite being so weird, circus is one of the best abilities for arena/ true arena speedruns. The Trampoline move is stupid powerful.
you should try esp in the true arena :)
There's actually a third place where you can get paint in Kirby Super Star Ultra it in the final boss fight in the True Arena and using it basically does nothing so it's actually a dirty trick to get you to lose your copy ability and grab something that's completely worthless in that fight however just like I love using sleep for an obstacle I kind of really love that use
I haven’t played many Kirby games, but I did play Nightmare in Dreamland. My favorite ability is fighter, with wheel in second place.
13:38 Technically it does not appear in every game. Because of the fire for some reason being split up it actually been replaced by burning two times
My favorites are fighter, wheel, tornado, hammer, archer, spear, staff, sword, yo-yo, jet, and ninja.
I love this kind of content! Keep it up man
Ranger: A
It's great...it is a very strong long ranged ability that offers a quick basic attack, a really powerful charged one, that changes depending on which upgrade you're selecting, a close-ranged shotgun-like arial and even a really good counter attack...
It's wide moveset makes it very useful in both normal and boss stages
It has it's own puzzles and it's really fun to use
Drill: C
It's basically an improved version of animal...it's a good ability...but it is just...a bit too poor...I mean...it offers like 2 attacks...
I like it's own gimmick and it's quite fun to use...but that's it...
i think drill is b, because being fun to use is the most important part of any ability. no higher than that though.
Ranger is an easy S rank.
The damage is good but it can attack bosses on the background. It's avoid and counter is the best in the game.
If we were to include the evolved versions, Space Ranger is outright broken.
@@sonicthehedge the charge up time holds it back in the postgame fights. youre better off using cutter, hammer, or sword.
just dodge roll. the slowdown lets you do so much damage if you mash b
I love how yoyo, whip, and staff all mirror eachother with the v^b combo
I couldn’t agree with you more. Poison is in my top 5-3 abilities in design. Plus, it’s fun to use and it’s strong!
ESP is actually one of my favorites. It IS annoying being vulnerable while remotely attacking, but there is just something satisfying about hovering in the air while navigating a pulsating ball of death around the area and through obstacles. Also, the delayed teleport dodge is broken and does a lot of damage.
I’m A Fan Of Water So Much That It My Top 5 Favorite
I didn’t agree with the 1st best until he said Kirby had a backwards hat
I would never have thought that my favorite ability (stone) would be so high.
Ghost was honestly my favorite in squeak squad, I think I used to look at it more like a challenge run for most levels.
"Stone is one of my most used abilities for boss fights and the arena"
A man of good taste I see. They say hammer is the best but I'm a coward
Yeehaw indeed. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on how many of these have changed in Forgotten Land
I would absolutely love it if you made a ranking list on the mix abilities from Kirby and the Crystal shards, that was the first Kirby game I ever played so seeing a list about that game would be very near and dear to my heart
YEE HAW!
In all seriousness, though, interesting video. I even got to learn about some copy abilities I didn't even know about, haha.
I think if "Leaf" was called "Plant" instead it'll probably be better because it will have more useful and creative moves. For example, Kirby could use a blowgun, swings from a vine, use some herbs to make a mixture that could poison enemies/heals allies, hit the opponent with a huge tree, etc.
Metal > Stone on the principle of being able to move, alone. I'm amazed Stone is so high. For the most part I agree with a lot of your choices though
I'd put master as a copy ability. Since UFO is still one despite being a completion bonus in modern games Master deserves a spot since you can go through the game with it again
Subscribing JUST to see what comes out of Forgotten lands. Also curious how your playthough is going! :3
i also like slight attempts to give sleep an actual moveset
in squak squad it'll heal you when upgraded
and return to dream land, the sleep bubble is an attack
you can also mash/shake to wake up faster
Finally someone else who agrees Tornado is broken af.
Especially in Forgotten Land.
storm tornado goes on forever, and the whole ability keeps you at the same level, so you won't fall into bottomless pits whilst using it
I think Tornado has just always been broken. It's the best ability in Adventure playing casually and speedrunning.
Honestly I really hope we have more then 12 copy abilities in the game as 12 is so few especially for modern Kirby even for a brand new 3D game as they have battle Royale to draw 3D movesets from
One of the reasons I like epic yarn so much is that it's like having the yoyo ability the entire time lol
i have to say that cupid is absolutely adorable
why does medical licensed kirby wear his jacket like that
now go take a nap. great vid and to deserve to rest. :)
Honestly, Light is a downright tragic ability. The other useless abilities, Metal and Mini, are at least somewhat memorable for how terrible they are, and don't really feel that neglected. Copy and Ghost are neat concepts that focus on showcasing a concept instead of being actually useful abilities. But Light is only usable in TWO rooms in the entire Kirby franchise and has nothing else going for it. It's such a nothing copy ability that you could effortlessly retcon it out of existence, and RtDL gave its only defining use to a held item and to actually good abilities like Fire and Spark. It's actually a memorable copy ability for me; I remember it for being forgettable.
But no, the _true_ tragedy of Light is that it brings the idea of a light-based copy ability into the world. There's a lot of usable concepts for its revival, like giving it the fireworks or lightsaber from Kirby 64, secret-revealing qualities like the lightbulb abilities from the Dark Matter trilogy, or merge the one-note Laser into it. Heck, just giving Kirby a move where he opens his mouth and a beam of light comes out like a spotlight would be really cool! Or make his hat just a pair of sunglasses! But sadly Light is so forgotten that I don't see it getting any sort of revival unless another Copy Ability poll happens and it manages to win by some miracle against all the uncommon abilities like Ball that people actually like.
this vid goes hard, good job
Beam attack is one of my personal favorites, when I play kirby with my cousing, we use beam attack a lot, not only do i like it of how it works, it also brought my favorite kirby meme
My list definitely differs a lot. Wasn’t expecting stone and tornado to be so high
cool video i hope nobody plagiarizes it
Circus is actually my favorite copy ability. I was trying Planet Robobot's True Arena and couldn't pass Mecha Knight, then I tested out a random ability and got all the way to sectonia. This ability was Circus and it became my main ability for the true arena ever since.
You mean you got all the way to Star Dream?
Awesome. I was relieved to see yo-yo at the top. I love mirror and beetle, but nothing comes close to how fun AND satisfying yo-yo is.
I agree 100% on needle but I’m glad to say forgotten land actually made it good and fun to use
Needle is actually very viable when running the ultimate cup.
Actually, all ability is viable in that game and it was a blast doing the cups as different abilities.
In fact, whenever I see sleep in the copy pedestal in between matches, I am honestly excited since free heals and buffs. And yes, it can also appear in ultimate cup z.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Forgotten Land committed a sin by not bringing animal back in the game which literally is about animals, and then introducing a new copy ability to do something they could've easily modified animal to do.
SUCH a missed opportunity.
i can't believe you made the 3rd mike kirby scream the ps2 start up
Amazing Mirror is and always will be my game! So I’m very partial to missile because it’s so fun to just fly around at high speeds, even though it isn’t very useful on enemies. I also really love fighter and archer (and ranger from forgotten land now, too)!
Okay how is ninja in b tier
I know; it's so busted in the right hands.
Forgotten Land Needle wants an apology now!
(Great list btw)
For wing, I HAVE to say something : the dive bomb is just INSANE against bosses, dealing damage 4 times (if used in the boss, so use i-frames), and also against doubles bosses because of the little wing chocs on the ground allowing you to deal damage to both bosses at a time, or you can combo dive-dash-dive or just spam dives for boss destruction. What I mean with this message is that wing deserves a better placement IF you used it as much as I and others did, because it packs a BIG punch if used well.
Thank you for putting Yoyo as the number 1. Always has been my favorite and I'm always hoping for it to be in future games.
Great list :)
Dang I actually really like bell lol. Plus the block for it was really strong and did damage when you were hit
Poison was my favorite ability to use in the true arena in robobot. It was just very satisfying to lay traps on the enemies while they were offscreen. For them to land on those traps when they showed up.
It's so funny. I didn't expect yoyo as number one and I kept thinking, by the time you got to top 5, wow he is going to forget yoyo haha
Suplex definitely deserves its ranking, at least I’m super star it’s one of the most powerful abilities in the game, it’s absurdly strong
Paint has one benefit over other one time use abilities and it's that it paints over the Heavy lobster's eye making the boss unable to track kirby's movement, and the chameleon boss is painted a color to keep it from turning invisible. That's the whole purpose of the ability.
after Kirby and the forgotten land, and by extent, deep sleep, sleep Kirby would be at the top of any tier list. It's barely a contest. It's so broken it makes any boss trivial and any level take a minute max.
I became a fan recently with kirby and the forgotten land. It was higher quality than many of the games I played that were released in the last few years. I haven't beaten many others so far, but the next one may be the one with all the mini kirbys as I played it recently, either that or planet robobot which I got recently.
i have a case for copy
1: in milky way wishes it basicly just defies the gimmick of finding abilities
2: in helper to hero (i dont know if T.A.C is in HTH so im basing this on a guess) you can just play as a de facto kirby similar to what you said about coop mode
This is a great video!
Yeehaw.
Now we need a Kirby forgotten land evolved ability tier list
The fact the first ability is remade in forgotten land is humorous
Finally someone else in the “Plasma sucks” group, and Yo-yo is also my favorite ability
I do heavily dislike Hi-Jump due to sucking with it and Adventure’s Kracko fight, and Tornado’s control frustrates me too much to try it.
Great list. I was thinking all throughout “when is yo yo going to come??.
One very old trick from the original NES game: if you absorb two enemies at the same time, you get a “mix”. If you don’t press any buttons, it will stop by itself on UFO, making it “less rare” (provided you have situations where you can inhale two enemies).
Ninja's grapple move can obliterate bosses if used correctly
10/10 would watch again
sheesh bro nice editing
UFO is maximum. Back in the day, it was really special because it was very rare but you could be sure that it would surprise the crap out of you when you accidentally swallowed two copiable enemies.
I'd say my favorites are water, leaf, fighter, and needle. Though I will say that feather got me through some tough battles in return to dreamland.
I was into Stone Kirby,that copy-ability was like the perfect friend in the Kirby triple deluxe's true arena then I learned how to use hammer in true arenas
The thing about the Paint ability is that I had been playing the series since Super Star came out and only discovered that Paint existed when Super Star Ultra released, and that was completely by accident!
24:50 in every game in which it appears, fighter has an incredibly useful jump replacement. the rising break
Ok I get sleep f tier but have you Seen sleep in kirby battle royale bc LMFAO
Just wanna say I appreciate how you picked an entire new song for each copy ability, they all fit so well 🙏
Im so surprised to see Tornado so high as its my number 1. I remember back in the earlier days many pushed it aside while it has ridiculous DPS.
I have used tornado to beat every boss in squeak squad and Rock for almost every other boss. Truly broken but fun abilities that are my top 2. Although mirror and suplex are close too.