Maruti Suzuki Grand Vitara Strong Hybrid vs Mild Hybrid | Drive To Death Part Deux
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- The last test proved the viability of a Hybrid drivetrain versus a petrol and conventional diesel tech. This time around we’ve changed a few things around, pitching the Grand Vitara Strong Hybrid vs the Grand Vitara Mild Hybrid. Maruti and Toyota’s Hybrid tech going up the already efficient Dual Jet technology.
Again we have a long drive, 900 kilometres from Udaipur to our office in Pune. Could we make it all the way back to Pune with both cars on a single tank of gas? Ahead of us lay many miles of highway that we needed to cover over two days. The conditions of these roads and the traffic volume once we reach Gujarat could be an issue.
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0:00 Introduction
0:55 Tricky Start 😅
2:45 Day 1 Report
4:21 Day 2 Begins & Gujarat Highway Nightmares
6:20 Mild Hybrid Knockout ⛽️
7:12 Journey Ends, Fuel Doesn’t
7:57 Verdict - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Drive to death is becoming one of my favourite to watch on my TH-cam list .... it’s really intriguing & interesting . Totally worth watching & listnjng to the review !! Keep this series alive guys !! Love your artful work / concept !!
Shukriya! Ideas for the next one are welcomed 🙏
Yes sir, second that. What cars would you like to see driven till dry next?
@@SuperAlanmax why not try Taigun DSG 1.5ltr vs tata safari automatic vs xuv700 automatic . As one has cylinder deactivation tech & DSG combo vs diesel TQ .
@@nabeelkhan4878 why not try Taigun DSG 1.5ltr vs tata safari automatic vs xuv700 automatic . As one has cylinder deactivation tech & DSG combo vs diesel TQ .
Yes, ICE + Strong Hybrid + electric.
ICE + Electric = strong hybrid
Great Video! However, the way, the fuel while filling up the tank was overspilling above the brim neither look professionally good nor is a recommended practice. OEM (Car makers) keep some reserve / spare capacity in the tank so as to compensate vapor / gas pressure which gets built up due to external humidity and temperature! And that's why one has to STOP filling after AUTOSHUT OFF of Fuel Nozzle. Its not at all a good practice to recommend 100% tank full up to the brim especially in harsh Summers! Sorry to say, but such practices are not expected from Zig Wheels being a professional automotive channel. I being an Auto Professional wanted to highlight this point. Hope you would take it in right spirit! Keep up the good work!
Hi Narendra, you are right, but in the intrest of keeping things as accurate as possible for this test it's the best practice for us. As you have rightly stated we don't recommend that this is done for regular fill ups. In terms of vapor build up and space for expansion of fuel, as soon as we filled up we proceeded to clock 300 km so the expansion of fuel and overflow was not really an issue. Again this was a test, done in real world conditions, but still a test
show u r a Indian without telling u r a Indian
zigwheels : shakes the car while fuel up 😂
Hahahaha. That is the tried and tested way to eliminate air pockets and fill the tank to the fullest.
FYI : one can reap the benefits of hybrid mainly within city - as the engine kicks in at > 30 to 40 kmph.
Great Job!!! Love this drive to death series from Zigwheels , Fuel Efficiency - Top priority amongst majority buyers in India.
Thanks Mangesh. Fun making content that you all love. What cars would you like to see us drive till dry next?
@@SuperAlanmax Tata Tigor -EV , Toyota Camry Hybrid
Very nicely explained you have given complete dedication for the video
Top level content. Mild Hybrid is very frugal btw for a petrol. I have S Cross Petrol and maximum I got was 22KMPL on the highway. In mixed condition I will get around 17. And remember in S Cross the engine is K15B not the new Dual Jet Dual VVT.
You know what, your engine is more frugal than the dual jet. And more exciting as well :p.
Appriciate your comment. Thank you :)
@@nabeelkhan4878 dual jet vvt is more frugal..right?!
Welcoming more drive to death episodes.. but please include the tank capacity of these vehicle also..
Hi Sir
I m confused between GV Delta AT smart hybrid and Hyryder Hybrid S variant.
I want to have a smooth drive experience in term of gear box along with low maintenance. Please suggest.
This is the best series drive to death we always wanted this type of content, please make drive to death between creta and seltos instead of they having same engine and transmission
Hi Vishnu, thanks for the comment. We think that a drive to death with two cars so similar will be more of a test of man than machine?
Please compare within city traffic as that is where this test makes most sense
Nice… I really appreciate your efforts👏👏👏
Yes, of course need a comparison between ICE, Hybrid and Electric.
Thanks Ganesh, that story is in the works. Coming soon hopefully
Very informative video guys true review for buyers looking for variant better mild and full hybrid❤love from Mussoorie
Shukriya!
Introduction 🔥🔥🔥
What is the difference in terms of battery capacity between the 2 models?
Is there a D2D on Toyota Hycross, if yes pleasure share the same as well.
Hey really love your this series can you please tell the exact model (varient) of both the cars
Would love to see Nabeel in more zigwheels car videos , He is a fantastic presenter and expressed things in a simpler which more people can relate to easily.
Sir! Shukriya. This means a lot.
Absolutely Agree with You. Nabeel is a Fantastic Presenter and his voice sounds Perfect for Voice over too !!
@@sundardn2564 💙
Love this review.....keep it up guys
Shukriya!
very good explaination, helped me to choose my car. thank u
Was the mild hybrid automatic?
thanks a ton for doing this! appreciate the dedication from you both and the crew. flipside which is going to make it to private taxi market ?
It was a hard day at work but fun nevertheless. And the findings were totally worth it.
Thanks a lot for understanding and appreciating the effort. 💙
@@nabeelkhan4878
Nabeel, when you guys do the Tiago EV review, could you also consider it's performance when fully loaded? The torque figure is significantly lower than the Tigor EV.
@@ayush885 thats a valid point. Will do that.
@@nabeelkhan4878 thanks a lot, man.
Love you guys, you make it fun to watch the videos even if I don't want to buy the car.
How was the noise level in the strong hybrid ?
My s cross 1.3 DDIS (Diesel) can easily do 900kM on a full tank…the most underrated car of Maruti
+1
Now it’s about emissions too
Cost difference of approximately 3L without considering bank interest element will be covered at least by driving 200k on highways or at least 150k in mixed city and highway driving.. strong hybrid is not feasible for most buyers
Awesome video.. kudos to team 👍
Pls do Hyryder strong Hybrid vs Creta Diesel vs MG ZS ev vs Kushaq 1.5 manual
That's an intresting group of cars you have clubbed together there Muralidhar. Would make a great D2D group.
what was the avg.km/h shown on MID ??
Hatsoff great comparison
More of such videos plz
Awesome reason I got a GVSH …. 🎉 Yes a Pure EV will be superbly useful to review with these engines….start with new Nexon 2023
Fuel tank capacity?
Kudos to both of you for your untiring efforts. I have a question, the torque claimed by the Mild - 133 NM and Strong - 122 NM is very less compare to diesel cars. Do you find it powerful enough while driving in highway, like overtaking at speeds of 100kmph or more, or was it difficult. Secondly, how would you rate the ride quality, compare to its rivals creta and seltos. Thanks
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what is the capacity of gasoline in liters?
Want to see a comparison video on Maruti Suzuki Grand Vitara Strong hybrid vs Toyota Hyrider.
Need a drive to death against Hyundai Creta Diesel. Let's see which gives better mileage and which is actually “more economical ”
I hope that the Suzuki Strong Hybrid will be available in the Philippines.
how is the KM different in the intermediate stage some thing fishy or manupulation seems .one is 613/611 part #zigwheel
Team Zigwheels do this in next vlog of Drive of 1000 Kilometres with route information along with toll tax paid plus fuel fill cost or charging amount cost in detail description in video.
Make comparison of run between Diesel Vs Strong Hybrid cars Vs EV cars
Alright! So I'm not gonna sell my Glanza anytime soon. I consistently get over 22kmpl on highways with the best being 25kmpl.
See if you can compare City & Grand Vitara full hybrid drive to death please
Great video, can you compare the grand vitara hybrid vs Honda City hybrid? It will be interesting to watch
Added to the ideas list. Shukriya:)
Hi Zig_Wheels, I saw your D2D 1&2 videos, it was really awesome and I got the clear idea and plan about the (Petrol Hybrid vs Petrol vs Diesel) and (Mild Hybrid vs Strong Hybrid). Please continue on the D2D videos. I have a few lists of D2D comparisons.
1. Tata's all EV's D2D comparison - Tiago EV vs Tigor EV vs Nexon EV vs Nexon EV Max
2. Made in India Brands - Mahindra XUV400 vs Tata Nexon EV vs Tata Nexon EV Max
Content on point
Shukriya!
It will interesting to watch the latest Bye Atto3 Vs MG ZS EV Vs Hyundai Kona. Will really help us in deciding on the best EV in India
Hi Vijay, thanks for the comment. The Atto 3 is a car we are also looking forward to driving too.
can you make an ertiga vs xl6 drive to death video
Nice video bro
Please make video for electric and hybrid and ICE only in city drive to death as most we drive is city specially mumbai which has huge traffic so please make a video in city till last drop of fuel 👍🏻
That is the plan. Just figuring out the right set of wheels. Any suggestions?
Kudos to Team Zigwheels drivers for great testing of 900 KM drive challenge. Next part 3 - Strong Hybrids Vs Electric Vehicle. I wondering about mild Hybrid system that how it fails in traffic jams when rains pouring heavy. What happen to hybrid assist SHVS system.
We had really really heavy rains on our trip and the SHVS as well as the strong hybrid systems worked fine. We also had traffic jams that continued for over 5 kilometers and speeds were around 3kmph and lots of stop start driving. Both cars had no problems at all. City traffic should be much the same.
@@SuperAlanmax Thanks for reply but you mentioned that start stop traffic jam for 3-5 KM stretch then SHVS mild Hybrid system looses working efficiency so fast that you get out of race just when you touched the Maharashtra State initially that surprise me about its working capability where as strong hybrid system from Toyota is working perfectly fine. No change of route is mentioned in trip so what can be real reason behind this.
Mileage test is aim of this trip then what went wrong with SHVS mild Hybrid system
@@fonsekhmaniya1687 so over the course of the whole test the mild hybrid cannot compete with the Strong Hybrid. It's constantly returning less mileage per litre of fuel. The traffic didn't help. On the other hand the strong hybrid fares better in traffic as the petrol engine shuts off for considerable periods of time and you can drive on pure electric power. Traffic does effect the Strong Hybrid too jist not as much as the mild hybrid.
@@SuperAlanmax Thanks for explanation but this indicates that one should be extremely frugal on purchasing decision to opt for Hybrid system or consider EV as better option in real world drive conditions of daily commute. Request you to make drive review on EV Vs Hybrids covering your journey of daily commute with return journey to home + long drive review on highway where EV charging infrastructure is developing stage to test real juice of EV car with Hybrid to get better decision with data to choose which car technology
Compare withb Diesel Creta too next!
I guess u guys should test it out in cold conditions and high altitude.. see how the battery performs and how it affects the range!!
Would love to do that!
Do the same with creta/seltos diesel and kushaq/taigun 1.5 tsi
are you comparing smart hybrid vs Intelligent electric hybrid ?
Yes sir.
Drive to death Celerio ka banaiye na sir. Petrol ki sabse jyada mileage dene wali gaadi ka claim test kijiye please.
if it's a comparision between the hybrids, then vitara strong hybrid vs Honda City hybrid should definitely be done.. 🙋🏽♂️
Could someone educate me..... i usually see ...SMART HYBRID ,behind most Grand Vitara's, which i presume is the Mild Hybrid ! what would be affixed on a Strong Hybrid !! how do we distinguish from the outside of the car !!
You’d just see a black and silver badge that reads ‘hybrid’ on the tailgate
@@zigwheels .nothing to distinguish, strong from mild !!
Any info on the average speeds both the cars were dng on the highways? Its a very important parameter for the highway efficiency w.r.t strong hybrids
Hi Deepak, we were sticking to 90-100kmph on the open stretches. But on day two there were few open stretches. And we were crawling along for a lot of the day. Looking at the overall average excluding breaks for lunch etc, we averaged just 40kmph which is very slow for a highway trip. Suffice to say that these weren't the best conditions for good mileage. With more open roads the cars could have gone further. But then that's the beauty of a real world test. It's unpredictable, fun and authentic.
@@SuperAlanmax thanks alan for the reply and the video... awaiting for more such content.. it really helps the buyer take an informed call than just jumping into the bandwagon calling EV is green hybrid is the way to go 😁 it all boils down to a persons use case, and how fat the wallet is.. Cheers..
@@SuperAlanmaxthis are ideal condition intact for strong hybrid..As it extracts more mileage in such conditions
I booked Grand Vitara Alpha Amt but in a few days I found some videos of the Grand Viatara build quality issue now I am totally confused It costs 20 lakh on road price . Is it worth it or just go for Tata Harrier or Xuv 700 . Can anyone please help me ?
Same here
I have booked Scorpio n
Diesel Seltos may be?
Made a same video for hyryder please
Does it make sense to have a drive to death between Maruti strong Hybrid vs Toyota Strong Hybrid
Not really. The powertrain is Toyota’s, both in the same tune and built in the same factory too
Tata Nexon EV Max or MG ZS EV Vs Tata Nexon Diesel Vs Maruti Suzuki Brezza Vs Toyota Hyrider or Grand Vitara strong hybrid. Here you have all combinations and I have mentioned latest Brezza because its a 1.5lit 4 cylinder instead of a 1.0lit engines because anyway they're focused towards efficiency more. So, why pick the same again
When i read the thumbnail drive to death I taught u wer gonna do crash test 🤣🤣
Next one for 1000km between all the strong hybrids including Honda, Toyota and Suzuki.
I was looking for a drive comparison, turned out to be just a mileage comparison.
My car scorpion pick truck gives a range of 1050 km, on one full tank which is 80 liters with 5 members in the cabin
gaadiwadi channel already covered 1250km in grand vitara strong hybrid in single tank with almost 30 min video.
Strong Hybrid vs Mild Hybrid vs ALL GRIP Mild Hybrid, PLEASE!
Hybrid vs diesel plzz
Strong Hybrid gives more mileage in Traffic than on highways because it mostly runs on EV mode in cities. So less use of petrol. So more the traffic, more the mileage for Strong Hybrid.
I booked Toyota strong hybrid V model
Pls try grand vitara, toyota hyrder and may be MG electric car
Mild hybrid is of little use.. it just makes the care more costly and its going to be like maintaining 2 engine in the long run.. mild hybrid can deliver about 17km/ltr but other suv with same bhp and cc without hybrid system can do the same..
ZS EV vs Grand Vitara Strong Hybrid vs Creta 1.5 Diesel vs VW 1.0TSI vs Seltos 1.5 Petrol vs Skoda 1.5T
EV vs Hybrid vs Diesel vs small turbocharged petrol vs naturally aspirated petrol vs performance oriented, that's a huge list lol
Can you do a living with type of series? Packing the boot to the full, climbing Ghats of Matheran with these two cars? Also would be interesting to see how load affects the performance and fuel efficiency of the two Mild Hybrid and Strong Hybrid.
That's an intresting idea Utkarsha, let's see what we can manage.
The same car is named as S-Cross in UK.
this is diff car
No, it isn't buddy. They don't even share the same engine! Don't just make statements like that.
18.8KMPL on highway is not good for mild hybrid. I get more with 1.5 ltr petrol on Creta easily.
Thank you for doing English
Do a drive to death on XUV 700 and Scorpio N
Something wrong,
For strong hybrid, the fuel tank capacity is: 1036/23.9 = 43.34
For mild hybrid, the fuel tank capacity is: 692/17.5 = 39.5
Hi RamaKrishna, the calculation you have done is based on the mileage that the cars displayed on the MID. The MID calculation is a system generated calculation that isn't always the most accurate. Over the course of testing hundreds of cars we find that this reading is close but never accurate. Often 1-2kmpl off. We also stopped to fill up when the cars went to reserve and showed 0 range. This point is also based on the predicted range calculation that the car is making. So it's not a certainty how much fuel the cars had in their fuel tanks. Ideally draining the tanks would have given us a true accurate result but running fuel pumps dry can damage the fuel pumps and we would rather have an approximate result than damage a new media car that has to be driven by other media outlets. Sorry for the slightly lengthy reply.
@@SuperAlanmax Thanks for explanation, i'm aware of this. But i was trying to point out, error/adjustment should be same for both cars. But there is a 10% difference, which i'm trying to understand.
ICE diesel please
Hybrid vs Diesel car vs electric since it is all about range ..
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Folks, i heard about an interesting car in the making.
Innova hybrid petrol, what's so tempting is that it :
# Might come with 2 L hybrid petrol engine.
# Might start at 15 lakhs ex.showroom.
# Might come with FWD and monocoque chassis.
# Might come as a C segment car.
# Might be built in the platform in which csuv and sedan are built.
# Might be fuel efficient up to 20 km pl....
Mild vs strong beer. Which one gets you high faster and stays longer! :D
Hey Supratim, thanks for the comment. I usually prefer the one that tastes better. Like I prefer my cars that drive better. And remember never mix the two.
smart hybrid full tank 45L+ 12V 36Ah battery= 600+ km
strong hybrid full tank 45L+ 177V battery = 1250+ km
Traffic + Jams = TraffiX??? 🤣
city hybrid v/s grand vitara strong hybrid
Imagine diesel hybrid
vadodara to surat is a Crap highway and trucks and all heavy loaders block all lanes and there is atleast one road jam
i have been driving on that road always and nothing is more stressful
This test shows how efficient the strong hybrid is but keeping that in mind if we compare the price which to go for we need to check the below stats
Strong vs mild
21.62 - 18.79 = 2.83 lacs
Cost of fuel 100 × 2.83 lacs
Total fuel = 2830 liters
Avg of mild hybrid = 20kmpl
Total range > 2830 × 20 = 56,600 KMs
So if you buy a strong hybrid be sure that you are already missing 40k to 45k kms considering the inflation from the mild hybrid.
your calculation is mesed up? why 100 x2.83 lakh
i ll give you the figure
smart hybrid full tank 45L+ 12V 36Ah battery= 600+ km
strong hybrid full tank 45L+ 177V battery = 1250+ km
@@rohanroy7872 for strong hybrid you need to pay 2.83 lacs extra for which you can buy fuel for your mild hybrid . One more interesting fact is when some one buy a strong hybrid, person who has bought a mild hybrid already driven 56,600 kms for free, even before the strong hybrid get offs the showroom floor and you also need to fuel up for your strong hybrid with that mild one can have 600kms extra!!!
@@ylalpurwala ok i got your incomplete analysis..
so what are you getting in by paying 2.85 lakh xtra..
1- all black interior
2-ventilated seats
3- bigger display
4-tmps
5- puddle light
interms of technical aspects
1.e-CTV Transmission
2.lithium ion batter
117V 85kw 115ps power (mild hy 12V 36ps)
3.more curb weight bcs of extra weight = more downforce = more drag = more stability
4.plus you have move mileage 26 -27 kmpl
exctly👍🏻the price seems a bit overpriced fr the strong hybrd
as well for the mild hybrd alpha version.the on road price will just fall under 17.5 to 17.8 lkhs,wheres with bettr engine and better reliability creta is a smart choice fr sure
Whats next......severe Hybrid???
wow, huffing and puffing after only 300 kms? lol
How about a hybrid Diesel 😅
That tech does exist. And is very tempting too.
@@nabeelkhan4878 Now I’m more curious, is it in production? Or is this at development stage? Does it involve Bio-Diesel? Why are companies shying away from Diesel?
@@avinashsahu338 we do have a diesel Hybrid cars, but its rare and mostly from luxury car manufacturers like Audi, Merc, etc. However, toyota planning to launch DiHy in future
@@bhargavpa5774 so there is a scope for a video explaining different fuels, govt push to improve automobile and automotive brands efforts
@@avinashsahu338 correct... But due to higher taxation on hybrids especially >4m cars... India don't see great products at affordable price points... I feel hybrids are future not pure ev
Improve script and make it easy to understand audience.
Strong hybrid is a great car but unfortunately its a Maruti and not everyone likes to gamble on safety, but still it will out sell CRETA Petrol for sure, Diesel not so much.
Creta has proven unsafe with only 3 stars in ncap testing, Grand Vitara remains to be seen.
Don't understand why the stupid traffic police don't take any action against trucks wandering in all 3 lanes while they are supposed to only use left lane...
And at least they should only be allowed from 6 PM to 6 AM...
They should limit the trucks during the day or else we are paying toll for nothing 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
The issue stems from poor driver training and awareness but also the issues faced by the truckers.
National highways pass through several villages and towns, where local vehicles (bikes, tractors, tempos etc) use the left lane. Truckers have to constantly slow down-shift lanes-regain momentum, which is no small task for HGVs.
This is why they use the right lane and stay in it, since it’s just easier for them.
Remember, our 2 hour car journeys can be over twice as long for truckers. They are overworked, underpaid and undertrained. Infuriating as this is, we must account for more perspectives with this issue.
@@zigwheels that is true where it maybe but on the Bangalore Mumbai highway where you have 3 proper lanes where it doesn't pass through any villages the truck drivers still drive in all 3 lanes.. that is my concern
And if they did stay in the right lane it would be easier but they also use centre and switch lanes without indicators...
Now make it cheaper so we can actually buy it and our . Not barter one for the other
What about fun to drive?
The ride and handling comparision is in the pipeline.
Don’t expect it
@Sushant, what exactly do you mean by fun to drive? Will that ne within legal speed limits , observing traffic rules and discipline or the do as you please on the road as most people here believe 'fun to drive ' means.
1.5 virtus done 726 km 😂😂
Not a well shaped balanced car like Creta.