Bonham learned those from Carmine Appice's playing on an album with the Vanilla Fudge. Zep's first tour of America started with dates opening for the Fudge. This is where Bonham first saw Appice's big blonde Ludwig kit and wanted one for himself (Appice helped facilitate that). When the Fudge drummer heard Bonham's foot triplets he commented...only for Bonham to note that he'd picked the idea up from a Fudge record. Appice couldn't remember doing them until Bonham pointed out the tune.
Does he ever hit all 3 notes on the kick drum? Then it’s not actually triples on the kick. 2 of the hits are on the kick. The 3 is on the hi hat or snare. He never played a full triplet on the kick. Don’t know why ppl always say he did triplets on the kick drum.
I remember learning this off the record when it first came out. It was daunting. One has to admire the creativity, energy and spontaneity of this drum part. Then seeing him play it live on the first tour of the USA as an opening act...WOW! He was the engine behind the band. One can understand why they could not go on after he passed.
Him n Jones but then Jimmy n plant too. Lol. It's hard to say who lead the way or who made the band. Cuz it was like having 4 Albert Einsteinsof their craft in a band. Jimmy was a bad ass producer n music writer
Totally agree I think that's what made them so amazing they just clicked together like it was meant to be when I first heard led zeppelin play good times bed times I was blown away I was only 11 years old I wanted to play drums lead guitar ,bass, sing the lot that's how they made u feel absolute legends
Side 1 Track 1 Perfection and those sixteenth note triplets have been a benchmark for any drummer worth his or her salt ever since and that groove is one of the reasons John Bonham still tops best drummer polls 55 years later.
Probably one of the best opening tracks for any rock album. This track debuts the band with something never heard before. Bonham ripping kick drum triplets like its nothing. Amazing!
They pretty much said that themselves in the statement they released after he died, that without John Bonham it wasn't Led Zeppelin. That's why they split up
im trying to learn this on drums and it is, quite frankly, fucking insane. Edit: Ok i was practicing this song for a drum recital and performed it a few months ago. I didnt learn it fully and kinda played a neutured version of it but i still did it. Imma just say thats good enough and not think about this song again.
Dude, you're in for some serious frustration brother. I can play 95% of it right at any given time but for some reason I can never get a full 100% run through, and I've been playing this song for years. But don't give up man, just keep trying, and you'll get it.
For the triplets I just use a rubberband. It's really easy once you set it. Hal Blaine is the hardest guy for to play. Hal Blaine is the greatest drummer in history. Peart, buddy, Bonham, Ludwig, Smith are amazing but hal is the master. Ruled 3 decades on the wrecking crew.
The bass drum work this guy could do with the ol Ludwig "Speed King" bass pedal is awesome. I had one with my first drum set but sold it... wish I hadn't. I would love to experiment with one. As I recall it had no (at least visible) springs and was all enertia and balance unlike any other pedal I've seen before or since.
That my brother is an understatement... Without Bonham... There is no peart.. Copeland.. Rockenfield.. .. Chilli peppers drummer.. Ginger baker.. Mitch Mitchell.. Ect... Great call
No, no, no! Peart, Chad Smith, Stewart Copeland and so many others got into drumming thanks to the likes of Ringo, Ginger and Mitch. And those three got into drumming thanks to big band players like Gene Krupa and Buddy Rich and early rock 'n' rollers and r 'n' b players including Charles Connor, from whom Bonham 'borrowed' the drum intro to Zep's 'Rock 'n' Roll' (Connor played it on Little Richard's 'Keep a-Knockin''). And without Carmine Appice Bonham wouldn't have had that big Ludwig kit he was renowned for, nor would he have learned those bass drum triplets that he heard Appice play on a Vanilla Fudge album. Go listen to Micky Waller on Jeff Beck's version of 'Shapes of Things'. That tune opens the debut album from the former Yardbirds guitarist (the Yardbirds hit version is also great, though different) and set the template for heavy rock drumming with a swaggering groove, something Bonham later became renowned for. Indeed, 'Truth' is cited as the template for Led Zeppelin's sound (I don't totally agree; Page was concocting that while still in the Yardbirds - he and Jeff were close friends). The effect and influence of Zeppelin - and this is not to take away from the quality of the players or the music (even all the tunes the ripped off from old bluesmen) - was more a matter of great timing and ruthlessly effective management than originality (their debut tour of America was one Beck had declined; and Zep were openers for Vanilla Fudge, which is where Bonham first witnessed Appice's big blonde Ludwig kit). Were major players inspired or influenced by Bonham? Some, yes. But I can't think of one major player would 'wouldn't exist' were it not for John Bonham. Even Mike Portnoy, a massive Bonham fan, cites Elton John's 'Yellow Brick Road' as his fave album and Ringo as a fave drummer.
@@MrCherryJuice yes you are true and correct.. Very well stated..!! And also thanks for giving me some good knowledge I didn't know.. Have a musical day
John Bonham wow that guy had the groove that's what was so good about led zeppelin people went for the music not just to look at them Bonham actually says this in an interview i understand exactly what he meant singing, bass ,drumming and lead guitar they were the perfect band the best and there hasn't been one like them ever since or ever will be r.i.p bonzo
Bonham was a fine player. But the drumming on the first Zep album - 'Good Times, Bad Times' included - was done on a small Ludwig green sparkle kit - 22", 13", 16" - not the Ludwig one in the photo. The big kit came courtesy of Carmine Appice and the Ludwig Drum Co. And the great drum sound on the album was thanks to engineer Glyn Johns (the Beatles, Stones, Who, Small Faces, Delaney & Bonnie, Steve Miller, Eagles...) The triplet bass drum lick is something Bonham also got from Appice. Zeppelin's debut tour of North America (which they did in place of Jeff Beck, who opted not to do it) saw them opening for the Vanilla Fudge. While Bonham lusted after Appice's big blonde Ludwig kit, the Fudge drummer wanted to know about Bonham's triplet foot lick. It turned out he had heard Appice do the three-note pattern on a Vanilla Fudge album. Carmine couldn't remember where until Bonham told him the title of the tune. So while the 'Bonham kit' and 'Bonham bass triplet' are etched in rock history under John Bonham, they originally came via Carmine Appice. BTW, Appice's idea for using big drum sizes came from buying a 26" bass drum in a pawn shop. He refinished it in red sparkle to match his other other drums to create the archetypal 'rock' drum kit (drum kits 'til then were essentially those created for jazzers). He later graduated to the blonde Ludwig kit Bonham loved. Did this. Carmine with that early kit. Killer. th-cam.com/video/3dJO47d26kc/w-d-xo.html
Always cool to hear tracks isolated to better appreciate what makes the entire song work. Here is a HS band in the late '80s covering this tune - (the drummer crushed it and now is a prof at Berklee. Go figure.) th-cam.com/video/Vx6TuBlFJ9c/w-d-xo.html
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The greatest debut of a relatively unknown musician in record history.
THAT was the opening statement Page wanted for his new band.
Those kick triplets 😩
Foot speed amazing
And the rests!
It's unbelievable!
Bonham learned those from Carmine Appice's playing on an album with the Vanilla Fudge.
Zep's first tour of America started with dates opening for the Fudge. This is where Bonham first saw Appice's big blonde Ludwig kit and wanted one for himself (Appice helped facilitate that). When the Fudge drummer heard Bonham's foot triplets he commented...only for Bonham to note that he'd picked the idea up from a Fudge record. Appice couldn't remember doing them until Bonham pointed out the tune.
Does he ever hit all 3 notes on the kick drum? Then it’s not actually triples on the kick. 2 of the hits are on the kick. The 3 is on the hi hat or snare. He never played a full triplet on the kick. Don’t know why ppl always say he did triplets on the kick drum.
The “in between” swung and straight 8th feel is SO hard to get right. His groove swings! It’s Krupa playing rock.
At the break in the middle my brain automatically inserted the John Paul Jones bass notes from sheer habit of listening to this absolute gem of a song
One of greatest drum parts ever
At just 20 years old John Bonham solidifies who the the greatest rock drummer and visonary is
I think he was very influenced by Carmine Appice though
@@blackpilledchad1927 a lot actually but still bonham did developed his own thing
100%
@@blackpilledchad1927 also buddy rich
Yeah nice try buddy you want to talk about rock drummers, Neal Peart is the best Of all time.
I remember learning this off the record when it first came out. It was daunting. One has to admire the creativity, energy and spontaneity of this drum part. Then seeing him play it live on the first tour of the USA as an opening act...WOW! He was the engine behind the band. One can understand why they could not go on after he passed.
Him n Jones but then Jimmy n plant too. Lol. It's hard to say who lead the way or who made the band. Cuz it was like having 4 Albert Einsteinsof their craft in a band. Jimmy was a bad ass producer n music writer
Totally agree I think that's what made them so amazing they just clicked together like it was meant to be when I first heard led zeppelin play good times bed times I was blown away I was only 11 years old I wanted to play drums lead guitar ,bass, sing the lot that's how they made u feel absolute legends
Side 1 Track 1 Perfection and those sixteenth note triplets have been a benchmark for any drummer worth his or her salt ever since and that groove is one of the reasons John Bonham still tops best drummer polls 55 years later.
Probably one of the best opening tracks for any rock album. This track debuts the band with something never heard before. Bonham ripping kick drum triplets like its nothing. Amazing!
Bonzo made Zeppelin swing, without him they wouldn’t have become Led Zeppelin
Nah, they would still be Led Zeppelin - 50% less powerful
Crazy old man Ginger Baker disagreed... talk about sour grapes!
He couldn't swing for shit
@@marciashiraishi5891 70%
They pretty much said that themselves in the statement they released after he died, that without John Bonham it wasn't Led Zeppelin. That's why they split up
It's not just his technical prowess. Bonham had a pocket all his own.
im trying to learn this on drums and it is, quite frankly, fucking insane.
Edit: Ok i was practicing this song for a drum recital and performed it a few months ago. I didnt learn it fully and kinda played a neutured version of it but i still did it. Imma just say thats good enough and not think about this song again.
Oh yeah as a drummer myself, pulling off that constant 8th note hi-hat plus those bass drum triplets was not my favorite to do!
Dude, you're in for some serious frustration brother. I can play 95% of it right at any given time but for some reason I can never get a full 100% run through, and I've been playing this song for years. But don't give up man, just keep trying, and you'll get it.
Just listen to Led Zeppelin all day for years straight…it will come to you!
For the triplets I just use a rubberband. It's really easy once you set it. Hal Blaine is the hardest guy for to play. Hal Blaine is the greatest drummer in history. Peart, buddy, Bonham, Ludwig, Smith are amazing but hal is the master. Ruled 3 decades on the wrecking crew.
Wow. Great job Isolating those Drums. Super crisp.
Such a funky swinging groove considering how hard the song rocks.
Still my favorite rock drummer.. by far..
That foot!!!!!!!!!
The true God of thunder.
Others: "What kind of music do you listen?"
Me:
This should be a lesson in high hat pedal alone for drummers
That swing feel is great
Bonham=GOAT!! No doubt.
No
This video should have more likes and views. Amazing
The bass drum work this guy could do with the ol Ludwig "Speed King" bass pedal is awesome. I had one with my first drum set but sold it... wish I hadn't. I would love to experiment with one. As I recall it had no (at least visible) springs and was all enertia and balance unlike any other pedal I've seen before or since.
Weren’t the springs in the column and the tension screws underneath said columns?
@@Cowri Not that I've ever seen... will need to take a closer look at one!
Super cool.
That my brother is an understatement... Without Bonham... There is no peart.. Copeland.. Rockenfield.. .. Chilli peppers drummer.. Ginger baker.. Mitch Mitchell.. Ect... Great call
Baker and Mitchell found fame well before Bonham.
@@scruffyapplesexactly baker and Mitchell had their style down
No, no, no!
Peart, Chad Smith, Stewart Copeland and so many others got into drumming thanks to the likes of Ringo, Ginger and Mitch. And those three got into drumming thanks to big band players like Gene Krupa and Buddy Rich and early rock 'n' rollers and r 'n' b players including Charles Connor, from whom Bonham 'borrowed' the drum intro to Zep's 'Rock 'n' Roll' (Connor played it on Little Richard's 'Keep a-Knockin''). And without Carmine Appice Bonham wouldn't have had that big Ludwig kit he was renowned for, nor would he have learned those bass drum triplets that he heard Appice play on a Vanilla Fudge album.
Go listen to Micky Waller on Jeff Beck's version of 'Shapes of Things'. That tune opens the debut album from the former Yardbirds guitarist (the Yardbirds hit version is also great, though different) and set the template for heavy rock drumming with a swaggering groove, something Bonham later became renowned for. Indeed, 'Truth' is cited as the template for Led Zeppelin's sound (I don't totally agree; Page was concocting that while still in the Yardbirds - he and Jeff were close friends).
The effect and influence of Zeppelin - and this is not to take away from the quality of the players or the music (even all the tunes the ripped off from old bluesmen) - was more a matter of great timing and ruthlessly effective management than originality (their debut tour of America was one Beck had declined; and Zep were openers for Vanilla Fudge, which is where Bonham first witnessed Appice's big blonde Ludwig kit).
Were major players inspired or influenced by Bonham? Some, yes. But I can't think of one major player would 'wouldn't exist' were it not for John Bonham. Even Mike Portnoy, a massive Bonham fan, cites Elton John's 'Yellow Brick Road' as his fave album and Ringo as a fave drummer.
@@MrCherryJuice yes you are true and correct.. Very well stated..!! And also thanks for giving me some good knowledge I didn't know.. Have a musical day
I could listen to isolated Bonham drums all day. What a talent. What a damn waste. 😢 RIP
I still get wood listening to Bonzo's Montreaux
the best the beast ,,,, el mejor , lo siento si ponen otro nombre es como el pele de la bateria ...
the BEAST!!!
that is an awesome clip
awesome..........album 1.....song 1
Thank you for this!!
It’s just so groovy. ‘Metal’ my butt.
The Man
Does anyone have any idea what crazy crash cymbal that is with the whooshing sound? That sounds insane! Thanks for posting this!
That’s just the effect of the processing of the stem from the game. I don’t think they actually sounded this “swooshy” on the master recording
A Paiste 2002 or 505 and yes if you buy high level Paiste cymbals you can get this sound more or less
On zep 1 and 2 I believe his cymbals were paiste giant beats then he went over to 2002s
OMG!
❤
JB what can one say?
Led Zeppelin se fosse bom
John Bonham wow that guy had the groove that's what was so good about led zeppelin people went for the music not just to look at them Bonham actually says this in an interview i understand exactly what he meant singing, bass ,drumming and lead guitar they were the perfect band the best and there hasn't been one like them ever since or ever will be r.i.p bonzo
Bonham was a fine player. But the drumming on the first Zep album - 'Good Times, Bad Times' included - was done on a small Ludwig green sparkle kit - 22", 13", 16" - not the Ludwig one in the photo. The big kit came courtesy of Carmine Appice and the Ludwig Drum Co. And the great drum sound on the album was thanks to engineer Glyn Johns (the Beatles, Stones, Who, Small Faces, Delaney & Bonnie, Steve Miller, Eagles...)
The triplet bass drum lick is something Bonham also got from Appice.
Zeppelin's debut tour of North America (which they did in place of Jeff Beck, who opted not to do it) saw them opening for the Vanilla Fudge. While Bonham lusted after Appice's big blonde Ludwig kit, the Fudge drummer wanted to know about Bonham's triplet foot lick. It turned out he had heard Appice do the three-note pattern on a Vanilla Fudge album. Carmine couldn't remember where until Bonham told him the title of the tune.
So while the 'Bonham kit' and 'Bonham bass triplet' are etched in rock history under John Bonham, they originally came via Carmine Appice.
BTW, Appice's idea for using big drum sizes came from buying a 26" bass drum in a pawn shop. He refinished it in red sparkle to match his other other drums to create the archetypal 'rock' drum kit (drum kits 'til then were essentially those created for jazzers). He later graduated to the blonde Ludwig kit Bonham loved.
Did this. Carmine with that early kit. Killer.
th-cam.com/video/3dJO47d26kc/w-d-xo.html
I learned to play stairway when I was 12 Jimmy didn't even write it till he was 22
Vim .. Bad news
So that makes you better than Page in any way?
Playing Stairway and writing Stairway aren't the same thing. What's Vim and why is it/he/she bad news?
How many records have you sold?
And Baker saying he couldn’t swing for shit… total A Hole
Always cool to hear tracks isolated to better appreciate what makes the entire song work. Here is a HS band in the late '80s covering this tune - (the drummer crushed it and now is a prof at Berklee. Go figure.) th-cam.com/video/Vx6TuBlFJ9c/w-d-xo.html
FREAK OF NATURE!!