Condenser Not Running For An Uncommon Reason!

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  • @berated4541
    @berated4541 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Why not unwire the heat strips or dryer and wire the condenser into it temporarily to see if it works? If it’s local to the panel and only goes away under load, then how has her dryer been working? It seemed to me like the breaker was single phasing; explains why you got 120v leg to ground but 0v leg to leg (That same leg is back feeding through the overlap in the stator windings to the other side of the contractor canceling itself out, making your meter read 0v)

  • @Garth2011
    @Garth2011 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I did notice in the disconnect there are two black and two white with red tape. One side of the disconnect is black with white/red but the breaker panel has only two black. Seems likely two blacks need to be on one side of the disconnect as the source ? On the condenser, there is one black and one white with red tape on the bottom terminals.

  • @TheHarleyemman
    @TheHarleyemman ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Your problem solving was on point. At top of panel at lugs you had 240 volts. 2nd time you pulled break, you tested and had 240 volts at bus bars were breaker connected. Breaker bad is my thought. FYI- Square D almost always has to be replaced with Square D. Great Job!

    • @mxslick50
      @mxslick50 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Square D ALWAYS has to be replaced by Square D breakers! ANY other brands ALL make poor contact with the buss bar and cause overheating, bad connections and damage to the panel. The HVAC trade is notorious for just stuffing in any ol' breaker then they wonder why they get these kinds of callbacks...

    • @lpdoc3369
      @lpdoc3369 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mxslick50 people are notorious for needing AC. People will do weeks without receptacles working but call another company the moment you leave if you can’t fix their AC on the spot.

    • @mxslick50
      @mxslick50 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lpdoc3369 I agree with you on that point, but it still does not excuse using improper breakers and creating a fire hazard. I presume you are an HVAC contractor, if so, let me ask you this: If you were to install an improper breaker just to "fix it on the spot", would your business' insurance cover you if it starts a fire? Or damages the panel to the point of needing replacement? I have seen this exact scenario many times in my 45 year career. Better to either pass on the call and save your business (vs. losing a few hundred on the service call) than to either lose your business altogether or have your insurance rates spike.

    • @lpdoc3369
      @lpdoc3369 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mxslick50
      An oversized breaker yes, the wrong type breaker no. I completely agree on the right part for the job. I can just see how some people end up doing that just to get by to please a customer. Return trips are always better than lawsuits! Have a good day man.

  • @MtPockets14U
    @MtPockets14U ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I appreciate the videos that you bring to us at home, I understand you have time invested in editing and such, As a tech myself I know that you have many service calls to get to everyday, But I have a request for you, if you will.
    As your diagnosing with your meter can you take an extra couple of seconds on your videos to show exactly where your placing your Leeds, for us at home. As a subscriber to your channel , I share your videos with friends so that they can get a feel for what your actually doing Technically speaking. With the awesome videos that you put out along with the clarity, I'm sure if you took that extra cpl of seconds to walk the viewers through the diagnostic phase, your subscriber count would skyrocket.
    Im not asking for a AC Service Tech explanation... lol...
    Thanks for reading... keep on keeping on!!
    This is the type of video were looking for, No hand holding just clear placement

    • @AD-HVAC
      @AD-HVAC ปีที่แล้ว

      Not trying to be a smart ass but you put your meter leads where you want to test. If you’re testing 240v single or three phase you test leg to leg and can also check them individually leg to ground.
      Not really complicated in any way. Understanding what you are testing and why is far more important if your goal is to learn. Once you know that, then you learn how to test it.

    • @MtPockets14U
      @MtPockets14U ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AD-HVAC
      My point exactly.

    • @gf3559
      @gf3559 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not being a jerk i promise. But in my opinion i like how he does it. As a electrician i had a home owner watch me test once and he figured he could do it himself. needless to say it did not end well for him or the harbor freight free meter he had!!

    • @MtPockets14U
      @MtPockets14U ปีที่แล้ว

      @gf3559 I don't think you're being a "Jerk" at all.
      Maybe a lil confused with what's being asked.
      I've myself been certified for the past 20 years now, give or take a year;).
      I get what people think they can do after watching videos, I personally think it would actually Be Safer for everyone who blindly attempts to do ANY REPAIRS on anything electrical to actually SEE where leeds are placed...VS Thinking, oh I think he has them here, let's try that!! No Bueno....
      As an Electrician do you think that all the TH-cam videos of Electricians walking the audience through the Exact procedures should be banned or removed?
      Or all the other Technicians that show how to repair Tvs, appliances, cars, boars, etc should be removed?
      People come to TH-cam to learn , hopefully from Pros.. but tgats not the case all the time.
      If this was truly about safety, you would think that, the moment anyone on TH-cam broke out a Multimeter their would be another disclaimer
      Besides Hearing &Eye protection.. it would be.. pull out your meter and check the Both Leads for cracks, slits, etc..

    • @gf3559
      @gf3559 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MtPockets14U True i just don't know liability aspects. in the video he was testing i believe the bottom of contractors. what if line came on top? or a 3 pole contractor on a system needing only 2. ive been licensed for 15 years and doing it for 30 and just know manufactures might do something a tad bit different.when people watch they want to reproduce exactly how they see it which in my opinion is sometimes scary.. and I have seen someone place a 3 pole contractor on a residential unit and abandon the 3rd leg lol

  • @Capt-Intrepid
    @Capt-Intrepid ปีที่แล้ว +23

    If possible, let us know what the electrician says. Thanks.

    • @Bennie716
      @Bennie716 ปีที่แล้ว

      He could be an electrician also. It's not uncommon for people doing HVAC work to be licensed in electrical and plumbing

  • @roberts.3712
    @roberts.3712 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Beating on the panel busbars helps...lolol...

  • @davidkraft3690
    @davidkraft3690 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thats a real weard one. Sounds like a breaker pannel failure .

  • @marcorecinos8629
    @marcorecinos8629 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice catch. Here in massachusetts we can't changed breakers. Is a electritians job. We only can touch just from the disconnet to the machine.

    • @johncspine2787
      @johncspine2787 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, here in Utah my AC installer had me get an electrician to make the connection and box from the new 200 amp panel to the disconnect, they said they weren’t allowed.

  • @hinspect
    @hinspect ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I ran across a similar problem in that It measured correctly with my Fluke but still would not work. Upon further inspection, I found a bad melted place on the Buss Bar in the Breaker Panel and bad Breaker from bad connection. I was getting Voltage but no Current. I had to move the new Breaker down to a clean place in the Panel. That looked like a cheap shitty Breaker Panel, probably made in Chian!😅
    Thanks for the Video

    • @bobboscarato1313
      @bobboscarato1313 ปีที่แล้ว

      That meant you had to replace the whole panel. Use all the good breakers and replace the bad one.

    • @hinspect
      @hinspect ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bobboscarato1313 It was my Panel and I just moved one Breaker space down. The Buss Bar probably should be replaced but I have plenty of room and tightened everything up. It has been working fine for over 10 years!👍

    • @mxslick50
      @mxslick50 ปีที่แล้ว

      @hinspect
      That is a Square D Homeline panel, and it is actually quite good. If you couldn't figure that out, I do hope you are not a home inspector as your user name implies. And before you reply, my username is my hobby, I am a licensed electrician with 45 years in the trade. :)

    • @bobboscarato1313
      @bobboscarato1313 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      An electrician told me I needed a new panel. He'll replace it for $ 2 K; told him to go fly a kite; I did replaced a few myself. Mine is OK.

    • @hinspect
      @hinspect ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mxslick50 Wow! I was just making a fun comment on Curtis's Video and I couldn't even tell what brand Panel it was except full. I must have struck a nerve without intent. My guess is that you must have been dlunk 🥂 when you posted it. My screen name is different than what you might imagine. I am in my mid 60s with an Electrical Engineering degree that I worked for and received in my early 20s. Sorry if I insulted you. My response to you is:
      Fk you Asshole!

  • @isaiahurio2197
    @isaiahurio2197 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I once had a call on a mobile home where an “electrician” re done a breaker and left it with no labels and moved to another state. Home owner had no cooling ever since. Electrician had tied the condenser power with the bedroom lights.

    • @jthonn
      @jthonn ปีที่แล้ว +2

      good grief

  • @Eddy63
    @Eddy63 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good vid ... Keep us posted on what Sparky says ✌

  • @robalexander7348
    @robalexander7348 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well Curtis, that was a tricky fault well done, now it's a Sparky's problem 👍 ⚡

  • @rickinoakville1549
    @rickinoakville1549 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Curtis, have been watching your videos for months, always learn something each time. Can't believe the organization you have in your truck, just awesome!

  • @CrucialSpeaks
    @CrucialSpeaks ปีที่แล้ว +3

    BEST INTRO ON YOU TUBE! - Great work too!

    • @HVACGUY
      @HVACGUY  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you like it!

  • @michelgrenier1878
    @michelgrenier1878 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sometimes it's a dead short in the compressor ? Sparkies are not always correct , Had a transformer "600 volts " replaced and the 2 scrolls in 2 RTU running backwards , Ha Ha

  • @jackl9922
    @jackl9922 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My understanding of NEC, shouldn’t install breakers in a panel not listed for.

    • @johncspine2787
      @johncspine2787 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was making a temporary fix to see if it would work..I believe if it had worked he was coming back with the correct breaker..

    • @throttlebottle5906
      @throttlebottle5906 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      exactly, NEC and panel manufactures both disallow it, because bad things can happen without a tested and listed breaker. however Eaton does make breakers rated/listed to fit multiple older similar design panels and they cost more of course(key word: OLDER). that was clearly a newer square d panel, so whomever did the original hvac install used the wrong breakers or the sparkies tried to save a few $$ by reusing old breakers. it looked like incorrect breakers on A/C, heating and dryer. maybe even counterfeit on the bad one?
      either way, this is an example of why you never do that! wrong or defective breakers can damage the panel buss bar/s also, causing the whole panel to need replaced or start to burn.
      never re-use breakers, because with age, thermal cycling and high humidity they rust the spring tension clips/weaken and lose clamping force on the buss.
      that goes for all brands/types, but some have been far worse.

  • @CoreyDeWalt
    @CoreyDeWalt ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was one noisy air handle...gotta love condos...

  • @davidb2438
    @davidb2438 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great home design, dryer vents venting next to condenser

  • @tombeilman5579
    @tombeilman5579 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    At least you didn’t get bit

  • @stevea6722
    @stevea6722 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Get the ecx #2 bit, works like a champ. Really like the videos!

  • @jthonn
    @jthonn ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yes you did the right thing by referring it to an electrician. I was thinking you could have used the other side of the panel, but same difference I guess. Nice job

    • @bobboscarato1313
      @bobboscarato1313 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You need to have loads distributed as equally as possible when setting those breakers on both sides of the panel.-

    • @jthonn
      @jthonn ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bobboscarato1313 Well that's what I figured. It doesn't make sense if the dryer was working and if it was it would be worth a try in a pinch. After some thought though, it just didn't make sense because it is still the same legs coming in. Something screwy going on, a broken wire or a bad connection somewhere. Why is the power there until you put a load on it?

    • @davidkraft3690
      @davidkraft3690 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jthonn A bad connection ( a pertal or poor conection will show full voltage until load is applyed ) . Pannel is defective. Square D "Homeline " is a Cheeper pannel made to meet compition priceing. Not the Quality the "QO" pannels.

    • @jthonn
      @jthonn ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidkraft3690 Makes sense, that is why I think he recommended an electrician to figure it out. Why work their side of the street?

  • @Garth2011
    @Garth2011 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have to think the main breaker panel is wired wrong. There's 3 or 4 wire nuts in there which I believe is not typical plus the disconnect on the outside has red tape on one of the legs for power and two black in the breaker panel. For sure this is a wiring cluster for an electrician.

  • @j.j.5844
    @j.j.5844 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good call.

  • @apollorobb
    @apollorobb ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Eaton, Siemens ,SQ d and homeline all fit the same panels as long as they are the newer generation panels . I have a Homeline panel in my house that has all 4 in it. This may help you in the future. If you suspect a bad breaker do a continuity test on both the poles see if it has connection between the line and load side. If you suspect wire issues wire nut the 2 legs together at the panel and do a continuity test at the Disconnect. If you indeed have an open leg that is the fastest way to find it .

    • @HVACGUY
      @HVACGUY  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In hindsight I should have

    • @bobboscarato1313
      @bobboscarato1313 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have the original outdoor Square D panel 125 Amp service all electric house and its 47 years old. Keep cover closed.

    • @johncspine2787
      @johncspine2787 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bobboscarato1313 my ancient Federal Pacific panel was likely the cause of my breaker not tripping and my attic fire..got a new, upgrade to 200 amp service put in with surge protectors as well..no electrician that ever came to do work in the house ever suggested I replace it, or say they’ve actually been banned..

    • @bobboscarato1313
      @bobboscarato1313 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johncspine2787 Federal Pacific was borderline product. I also installed a whole house surge protector.

    • @apollorobb
      @apollorobb ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bobboscarato1313 FPE panels were/are known as fire starters. They went out of business due to law suites

  • @butlerstouchHVAC
    @butlerstouchHVAC ปีที่แล้ว +4

    you can never drop too much knowledge lol keep up the good work love the videos

  • @mikedillon6233
    @mikedillon6233 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes I'm an electrician and I would like to know!That's a good one, don't see that very often. The next thing I would have done was pull the wires off at the disconnect, see if I had a problem there! Good troubleshooting
    Curtis!

  • @OnusBones
    @OnusBones ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It will be interesting to know what that turns out to be.

  • @kevinbedell8558
    @kevinbedell8558 ปีที่แล้ว

    Same thing happened to my daughters Air condition last week Square D 30 amp breaker Was bad. easy fix just replacement

  • @billybrown1979
    @billybrown1979 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you find the problem to help the people. what you have to go through to find a problem. be bless

  • @minimag4444
    @minimag4444 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It looked to me that neither wire on the breaker was a white wire phased black. If they somehow wired one leg from a different circuit on the breaker then 120v would trip the circuit. I thought I saw a white wire in the disconnect. I didn't see you check power at the disconnect with the pull out not installed after getting the breaker reset. That would have been my next move

  • @majorintherepublick5862
    @majorintherepublick5862 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Been there done that

  • @chesstime356
    @chesstime356 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hopefully you will ask electrician to see what was the real issue it’s interesting to see the solution thanks.

  • @Motham51
    @Motham51 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    On the condenser unit one leg was a white wire with red tape on it. The breaker had two black wires, the breaker marked for heat had a white wire with red tape. Looks like a wiring error.

    • @davidkraft3690
      @davidkraft3690 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No , Meets code if it has colored ( any color other than Green or White) tape on it.

    • @uzlonewolf
      @uzlonewolf ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@davidkraft3690 Neither of those wires have any tape on them. At least one is spliced somewhere as I know of no NM-B cable with 2 black wires.

    • @uzlonewolf
      @uzlonewolf ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That doesn't explain the "no power at the breaker" though. My guess is one of the contacts wasn't making a good connection and arced a chunk out of the bus bar.

    • @Sctronic209
      @Sctronic209 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would have swapped one of the other 2 pole breakers to test. Then check at the disconnect, then condenser, while under load. You definitely have a bad breaker possibly other issues as well.

  • @kevinsklow3473
    @kevinsklow3473 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good call, hope there’s a follow up on this one. Stay safe out there Curtis

  • @montehyler
    @montehyler ปีที่แล้ว

    Please be sure to post a follow up for us as to what the problem with the panel turned out to be! Thanks for another fine video!

  • @michaelharris1653
    @michaelharris1653 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you check the ground and common on the bus for tight connections

  • @Quickstrike1981
    @Quickstrike1981 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    another video, you spoil us :P

  • @alabamahvacprofessional2946
    @alabamahvacprofessional2946 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Curtis, I was an industrial electrician (which supercedes both commercial and residential) for 32 years, and have seen it all. The problem with a digital meter is that it itself does not put any kind of load on a circuit. That's why it will show voltage until the disconnect outside is installed. A 2 wire light socket with a 240 volt incandescent bulb in it applied across that breaker with the outside disconnect pulled is way more effective than a meter for determining if a breaker is breaking down under load...Anyway, if you'll replace that defective breaker, it will work just fine.

    • @jthonn
      @jthonn ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know that you know your stuff and probably right. Why didn't it work with the other breaker?

    • @alabamahvacprofessional2946
      @alabamahvacprofessional2946 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jthonn because the other breaker was the wrong brand, and wasn't making good contact. That breaker can only be replaced with either GE or Siemens

    • @jthonn
      @jthonn ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@alabamahvacprofessional2946 Thanks man

    • @philosothink
      @philosothink ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and despite being a deep south state, AL has rigorous continuing ed and licensing requirements... I'm not licensed in AL, TN is way more lenient. I've run into the wrong brand breaker problem in the past too.

    • @mxslick50
      @mxslick50 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@alabamahvacprofessional2946 WRONG!! That is a Square D Homeline panel, and ONLY SqD breakers are listed for use in it.

  • @jewellhirsch1694
    @jewellhirsch1694 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think Curtis you gave that breaker a thorough check but you really can just break it loose and see if you got 230 on the other side. You got 230 on the other side then you need a new breaker that’s pretty easy rather than check and check and check, you can save yourself some time unless you just got some time on your hands and you just want to take your time. I don’t know that but usually you’re pretty busy. You’ve had my two cents from Tallahassee Fred.

  • @ronw4692
    @ronw4692 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The disconnect had a white and a black wire feeding it. The 2 wires in the panel going to the breaker were black. I bet they crossed a couple wires in the panel and landed one of the lines for the ac on a different breaker in the panel, probably one of those AFCIs..

    • @uzlonewolf
      @uzlonewolf ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That wouldn't explain the "no power at the breaker" though.

    • @throttlebottle5906
      @throttlebottle5906 ปีที่แล้ว

      I see wire nuts in the panel, which tells me it's been replaced or they accidentally cut and landed the white as a neutral, before extending it. not uncommon to splice wires because they're too short/cut off wrongly. very likely they just used solid black thhn or wire stripped from romex to extend them down. while it looks ugly to have splices inside the breaker panel, it's code compliant.

    • @throttlebottle5906
      @throttlebottle5906 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      in fact, at 5:26 in video. white & black come from top right across to the upper left and spliced into two black conductors with red wire nuts. the black to black is easiest to see, the white to black splice is harder to see being in the back, both are pointed downward (open end facing up). bad breaker/wrong for panel, the next question is, did it ruin the panel buss bar or is just the breaker cooked, maybe from a loose screw? it should be discolored or burnt to a crisp, including the wire which seemed ok via video. we never got a close look at the buss or deep into the breakers contacts. **EDIT: at 7:20 the top screw of the breaker does look dark and discolored, so a loose wire cooked it and it's certainly an old breaker they re-used, seeing it only has flathead screw slots! they've all been multi-bit head for years now. 😵‍💫

  • @MrsOveata
    @MrsOveata ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just had this problem with a breaker. Question, it was an eaton cutler hammer that went bad. Does it need to be replaced with same brand name? The new one is still a 2 pole 30 amp just a different brand name and it works. Electricity freaks me out.

  • @TPINSC
    @TPINSC ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This would have been a great time to have a ''wiggy'' or other solenoid type tester. Digital meters are fine most of the time but not in this case. I am curious if the wire too might have a problem. You could have landed the leads on another 2 pole breaker just to see if it would work. Please don't take it wrong I know it is easy to watch you and have all these suggestions but I know 100% you are a great tech and You do your best to get things going.

    • @HVACGUY
      @HVACGUY  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Preciate it. The comments don’t just help other viewers, but me too.

    • @jamesfitzsimmons381
      @jamesfitzsimmons381 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sir. Could you give me a example of a wiggy type meter

    • @TPINSC
      @TPINSC ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jamesfitzsimmons381 The ''wiggy'' hasn't been in production for a while but IDEAL still makes one and also KNOPP They actually put a load on a circuit so something like a bad breaker probably wouldn't show any voltage at all .If you google Knopp you'll see what I'm talking about.

    • @jamesfitzsimmons381
      @jamesfitzsimmons381 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thankyou Sir

    • @kg4muc
      @kg4muc ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I chased my tail on a water heater with the same problem. Turned out in that case there was actually only one SP slot left and the Dp breaker was only contacting one buss bar. Odd ball call but the fix was moving it over to an empty slot on the other side Panel had been changed prior to all this neat stuff lol

  • @sponge12313
    @sponge12313 ปีที่แล้ว

    I noticed that the side that lost power on the barker switched when he flipped the wires around in the panel that makes me suspect the unit out side

  • @stephbugg8988
    @stephbugg8988 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd have been in that disconnect checking or the breaker was bad. I'm curious now what the issue was.

  • @getrdonefelix
    @getrdonefelix ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In the disconnect when you first open it up and back plastic cover falls out, looks like black wire melted on right bottom corner, but could be wrong been watching too many mower fix videos.

    • @uzlonewolf
      @uzlonewolf ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm not seeing it, all I see is a poor tape job (the red tape) and some gray paint overspray.

    • @getrdonefelix
      @getrdonefelix ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@uzlonewolf ok. thanks.

  • @MsBaYbOoTiE2784
    @MsBaYbOoTiE2784 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope Milwaukee is a sponsor of yours!!

  • @CrucialSpeaks
    @CrucialSpeaks ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Didn't those same installers leave wire contacts loose before?

  • @jeffreywhitlatch1409
    @jeffreywhitlatch1409 ปีที่แล้ว

    A Home line breaker fits all of the like, ITE, Bryant, GE etc. But an ITE breaker will only fit an ITE. Seems like somethings wired wrong if breaker is good? Did it ever work?

  • @anthonyyoung7344
    @anthonyyoung7344 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your power problem is the metal latches on the breaker not tight enough and it's loosing connection iv seen it a thousand times I had three that did me that way just mash them tighter and bingo works like new.

    • @mxslick50
      @mxslick50 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, the correct answer is to get the RIGHT BREAKER. This ia SqD Homeline panel, and the ONLY correct breaker for this panel is SqD HOM (Homeline) type. Those other 2 poles in there are ALL the wrong type, and will also burn out soon.
      "Just mash them tighter" is a half-assed "fix" that will only fail again, after damaging the buss beyond repair.

  • @10minutenewhampshirebreak77
    @10minutenewhampshirebreak77 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m curious if it has ever worked?

  • @diegolopez19
    @diegolopez19 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why didn’t you ever check any other 240 appliances to see if they were doing the same thing?

    • @HVACGUY
      @HVACGUY  ปีที่แล้ว

      Air handler was working

  • @jamesfitzsimmons381
    @jamesfitzsimmons381 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Curtis I know it’s easy for me to be a armchair tech. But maybe go back out and just run the outside fan only and see what happens. You probably already have thought of that

  • @jamesfitzsimmons381
    @jamesfitzsimmons381 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Glad you put up another video today. You don’t think the hp is blowing the breaker?

    • @HVACGUY
      @HVACGUY  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’m not sure, because the other breaker did the same thing.

    • @jamesfitzsimmons381
      @jamesfitzsimmons381 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HVACGUY Thankyou for answering me

    • @georgemunford3804
      @georgemunford3804 ปีที่แล้ว

      Other breaker bad also

    • @uzlonewolf
      @uzlonewolf ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@georgemunford3804 Or the first arced a chunk out of the bus bar and now no breaker will make good contact.

  • @Bob.W.
    @Bob.W. ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What Eaton did you try, BR or CH? Thanks sir.

    • @HVACGUY
      @HVACGUY  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      When I buy them they never ask. So, I guess I don’t know the difference.

    • @Bob.W.
      @Bob.W. ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HVACGUY I'm guessing BR, which is their less expensive line. But that is just a guess. Thanks.

  • @RG_sssSMOKING
    @RG_sssSMOKING ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would like to know if any other 240 volt loads were working being feed off this panel. Range top, oven, water heater ?

    • @HVACGUY
      @HVACGUY  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I know for sure the air handler was working.

  • @RobertGambrell-v9z
    @RobertGambrell-v9z ปีที่แล้ว

    not that i know it all but why did you have two black wires on the breaker and one black and one white that is phased as a red wire, which is ok to do so, at the disconnect? apparently they used 2 conductor w/ground nm type wire since you have one white, one black at the disconnect but inside why 2 black wires going to the breaker?

  • @jamesfitzsimmons381
    @jamesfitzsimmons381 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Curtis. My opinion only. Bet you have very high resistance compressor short/ground -- even a fan or cch

  • @shanebibby6006
    @shanebibby6006 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is prob a connection or jbox that has a fried wire. U see voltage with no load and when the load is applied it goes to zero.. if that was a incoming issue u would see it on the main also gurantee there is a aplice burnt up or not making connection

  • @RG_sssSMOKING
    @RG_sssSMOKING ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I noticed this must be a sub panel as it did not have a main in it.

    • @johncspine2787
      @johncspine2787 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looked like apartments, wonder how the wiring was distributed..

  • @search_eternal
    @search_eternal ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Did you check the disconnect box by the unit? I've had the pins in the pull out not have good contact and not send power to the contactor.

  • @goodnessinpeople
    @goodnessinpeople ปีที่แล้ว

    Bad breaker, change out with the correct breaker and you will be good. There is no work-around with a SqD older generation, You nailed it 30 seconds in, but you kept second guessing yourself. Get you an old Flute for things like this. Breaker panels are as dumb as a rock, but it out smarted your fancy digital stuff and all its beeping. Old guy signing off 😊

  • @mxslick50
    @mxslick50 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Curtis, your trade has an extremely bad habit of installing improper breakers in panels. This is especially bad with condensing units, package units and coils with heat strips. The different breaker panels ALL have differing specs for the buss bar stabs, some are thicker, some thinner, some plated, some not, etc. The wrong breaker type WILL cause overheating, loose connections, arcing and damage to the breaker AND the panel buss.
    In my 45 years as an electrician, over 98% of ALL forced (due to damage, not upgrades) panel replacements I have had to do were caused by buss damage due to the wrong breakers being installed. Of that 98%, 92% were on HVAC, 3% were plumbing (electric water heaters, another trade who does this crap) 2% were fire or water damage, and the remainder were homeowner/handyman specials. Many of my service calls for hot or tripping breakers, smoke, burning smells or sizzling noises from panels were caused by this same issue, heavy loads on improper breakers.
    Using improper breakers like your trade and others do poses serious safety and liability risks, and could cost you your business. Someone in the HVAC trade needs to step up to the plate and do it right for once. If you see situations like in this video, advise the customer IN WRITING to get the breakers replaced with the correct BRAND and size, by an electrician, or by you if your license/codes/state permit you to do so.
    On NEW installs that you do, ALWAYS, WITHOUT EXCEPTION, get the RIGHT breaker even if you have to make a trip to the box store or wholesaler. Be sure to include that cost in your bid.
    And NEVER, EVER put a new or damaged breaker on a breaker buss space that is corroded, discolored, burnt or pitted from arcing damage. NEVER sand, file or use any kind of grease or NoLox on breaker buss stabs. you WILL cause a fire.

  • @publicmail2
    @publicmail2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    burn on buss bar

  • @kens.3729
    @kens.3729 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Unit looks New(er) and you Confirmed it’s one (1) year old and there is already a Failure. 🤪👎

  • @russelllieser4226
    @russelllieser4226 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your a licensed electrician? Arch flash gear?.

  • @georgemunford3804
    @georgemunford3804 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Still a bad breaker

    • @mxslick50
      @mxslick50 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still the wrong breaker..needs to be SqD Homeline.

  • @jevianfe
    @jevianfe ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been in a situation like it. Did the same, replace breaker, aND CONTACTOR. STILL 0 volts when having load. I guessed something was wrong with the wire somehow somewhere. I run a new wire, problem solved. Put back old contactor, put back old breaker. ❤

    • @philosothink
      @philosothink ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i had an ancient goodman call once. The unit had shipped with pigtails to the contactor, and several years earlier, on the same unit, when I was the gopher and not the tech, I remembered the tech pointing at the pigtail, on the same unit, and sharing a story with me about how he'd condemned a compressor early in his career. When his boss came to double check, he found a pigtail on the contactor and removed it, and then it worked fine.
      I removed the pigtail, and the compressor kicked off and ran until the people themselves passed. It's still running, 6yrs later to my knowledge. I haven't been called back.

  • @NoorRefrigerationsystem
    @NoorRefrigerationsystem ปีที่แล้ว +2

  • @tomoliver8498
    @tomoliver8498 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty sure i could have figured it out without an electrician. Sometimes it just takes another set of hands.

  • @josephbradshaw5353
    @josephbradshaw5353 ปีที่แล้ว

    A animal must have got in the crawl space and got hungry for some copper.

  • @jordanhenshaw
    @jordanhenshaw ปีที่แล้ว

    Probably shouldn't ever, ever be beating away at the wrong breaker trying to force it onto a bus it isn't supposed to go on just because you don't want to run to the store to get the right breaker.

  • @karellodewijks4971
    @karellodewijks4971 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    👍👍😊😊

  • @jima3129
    @jima3129 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a crap job they did on that panel install.

  • @joemartinez-673
    @joemartinez-673 ปีที่แล้ว

    THANK YOU 😎

  • @harrydickson4575
    @harrydickson4575 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    👍👍👍