I currently have the RG35XXSP and I have ordered the Retroid Pocket 5. I'm SUPER keen for this thing to arrive :) It's so much more capable than the SP, and I just keep finding more games that it can play.
RP4Pro owner here. It's so small with great power. It's perfect for raw dogging with no case in my pockets for amusement park lines. I have addidas zipper pockets so not worried about it falling out during the ride. I feel like that's the perfect use case, especially since it preserves my phone battery in my other pocket. Any larger and it would probably be uncomfortable 2 devices in my pockets. Plus not super worried if it were to break tbh. I'll probably skip this generation and hope the RP6 is no bigger than the rp5 and still packs AMOLED but with a stronger chip. I just get scared raw dogging devices that approach 250+ with shipping, taxes etc
I don’t really put devices larger than my rg28xx in an actual pocket, and larger ones always get a case. But I can see your point if that is a priority for you!
Bro I’m the same way, portability went a long way for me, I can fit my 4pro in it’s case in my pockets or jacket pockets I skateboard so a lot of my pants are a lil baggy anyways, and even if I’ve got smaller pockets or am usually ju at carrying it around in my pocket I have a 3d printed clip shield, and it’s crazy good fits in my pocket just like a phone and I don’t have to worry ab the sticks or anything in my pockets, I honestly sold my switch cause it wasn’t portable like when I had a 3ds, which I also needs put some of those on my rp4p come to think of it I just got done this morning adding another 40 or so ps2 games to my alr 70 ps2 game collection, what’s crazy is I do legit play them, and not only that but I’ve had friends and even my dad has started coming over to my house cause we can play so many couch co op games on my big tv and hook multiple controllers easily and I’ve genuinely not had latency or lag, no one’s complained ab it and I haven’t even had slow downs when which surprised me for co op and multiple Bluetooth controllers, and not a single game multiplayer or single player I’ve come across a problem with, if it’s slow or something there’s legit always been a setting to fix it at least so far, is the and being able to just play it on my own in handheld mode I go back and forth between twilight princess on GameCube, ROM hacks like Pokémon unbound or radical red on gba and a ton more.c it’s honestly become my main handheld and home console, I still play my ps4 and will most likely keep playing certain rom hacks and psp/vita games always on my Japan ps vita I modded myself and is what got me into emulation, I’m glad I still use both, and I’m more than happy, I’ll prob stick with the 4 pro for a long time like most likely at least a couple years, I do the same thing with my phones and wait for a big generation leap, rn I’m more than happy and content 🤝 I think the rp5 looks hella beautiful tho and I do like the design cause it reminds me of a more future vita, really excited to see what they come out with next few gens, great video and review btw!
the only reason i don't wanna upgrade to the 5 is this 1) If i really want performance, I can spring for the Odin 2 Mini with its 8G2 processor while also having a similar footprint, or go big with the Odin 2. Sure, the jump between D1100 and 865 is decent (especially with Turnip drivers) but it still can't square up fully with 8G2, much less if you're intending to dock and requiring to use higher upscale. 2) most of the games I play on the retroid are Gamecube which is fine to play at 1.5-2x on that small screen. I ain't using a dock to play on my PC monitor or TV where I have to upscale a lot and in turin causing lag etc 3) If I really want best performance for PS2 games, I would just play on PC cuz PCSX2 Exists. 4) the issue now is emulation efficiency on emulator apps on android. Switch is barely on life support with takedowns and PS2 emulator development has stalled for the most part. back to #1 Odin 2 really hit the highest point for android emulation performance already cuz 8G2 is still relatively new while being the same processor as last year's flagship phones like S23 etc. and lastly the dumbest reason 5) I love the watermelon colour a lot it's a shame the 5 doesn't have much colour options. The watermelon colour definitely adds more spa-zazz and personality than just the black/white/"off white" style colours.
Between the gc, 16bit and the screen blending effect of the black device, there are already enough color options to make your decision a living hell. I don't need more options, I want less, because I can't decide already :D
In HomELandeR: Voice... I am done "Apologizing" 🦅🙃 A - O2 Pro... All Black Edition... RaZeR Edge Tablet + BsP D8 Bluetooth Controller (Sky Black or Star Space White Edition) Owner...
Yeah for GC it's like night and day. Unfortunately not for PS2 though...but hey you are mostly going to set the resolution to 2.5x most of the time to match the screen so no biggie
I just bought a RP4P and am currently awaiting its delivery from Retroid. £155 for a brand new RP4P with the bugs ironed out (triggers) was plenty for me to be paying out. I might get hit with customs yet which will probably put me in at £190/£200. If I had bought the 5 I’d be looking around £250/260 at that point I’m starting to look at a steam deck.
@ I have had mine a couple weeks now and I love it. I got rid of my analogue pocket and have this. Okay it’s emulation vs fpga so hardly a comparison to the purists but with that being said this has all the benefits and no negatives imo. Originally I was sceptical of having an android based system but now I appreciate it. A bit of tinkering and the UI looks great plus we have the google playstore. There’s nothing like playing PS1 in your lunch break and then moving on to Streets Of Rage 4
Form factor is king for me, I love the design of the 4 Pro. I'm not sold on the look of the RP5. I have an RG556 and it is nice for sitting at home on the couch, but I'd never take it anywhere with me, whereas I rarely go anywhere without the RP4 Pro. It won that spot despite me thinking it was too small a screen for the price for the longest time. Now, if I reach for anything bigger than the RP4 Pro, I'm generally grabbing the Steam Deck. What I'd have loved is the design of the 4 Pro, with the Snapdragon chip and larger screen (because I'm certain they could have fit a full 5 inch screen - or 4.95 like the TrimUI Smart Pro). That might have made me jump. As it is now, I'll wait to see what the RP6 looks like. I'm sure the RP5 will be a hit and people will love it, but it isn't for me. Thanks for this comparison though.
I have a R4 Pro. It is a totally luxury purchase for me. The slight performance bump is really not good enough to have an upgrade. Retroid upgrades their products all the time. I just really want the screen.
It's obvious that the RP5 is better in a real world scenario. But this video actually reminded me of how impressive the RP4P actually is! I have the RP4P and I just pre-ordered the Odin2 Portal. So upgrading to the RP5 seems unnecessary at this point.
Thank you so much for making a comparison video between the 2! I bought a 4 pro when it came out and wanted to see if it was worth upgrading. I dont emulate anything past 6th generation and i never upscale anything so the 4 pro is good enough for me it seems
Very useful, thx! I have a rp4 pro and play a LOT with AR glasses so the rp5 screen, while nice, is not a major factor for me. I think I'll wait for the rp6 or just get an odin 2.
Just the video I was looking for. Have an RP4 Pro and mostly play PS2, doesn't really seem worth it just for that, but the screen would be the main upgrade unless you're playing a lot of GC.
Slightly larger (but in my opinion worse) screen, performance that is more of a guarantee that everything will run well upscaled (though the RP5 handles most ps2/gc at at least 2x no problem), top joystick location, possibly more comfortable for joystick games (depending on your hands). I didn't bond with the Odin 2 and would rather have this for the OLED screen and smaller size.
Just want to know if 4pro runs kirby games and pokemon well ? That is the max imma go with switch ! Need it more for gba and gamecube and 3ds which i feel shall work fine on rp4
Great comparison. I'm not a fan of the rp4 and my thoughts are that if it needs a grip to be comfortable to use, the grip may as well be part of the device and so I'm on team rp5
Almost bought this, but ordered the Odin Pro instead as I mostly need a machine to get my daughter off my Steam Deck for playing Minecraft, and she prefers stick on top.
Good topic, I like this. Can you compare the RG556 as well? I know some users are considering selling to get the quality screen and ergonomics we're used to but with better sticks and performance. Unclear how much better that performance really is yet though for what might be an extra $50-$70 plus shipping depending what how much you sell the RG556 for
How do you only have 92 subs?! I've been looking for a creator that has almost no subs so that I can watch a meteoric rise take place in real time, and brother I just found my channel.
@@bassderek I've thought about starting TH-cam myself, I run a small PC and retro game shop and it would be cool to use it as some extra reach for the business. It's great to see someone jump in feet first and do a really good job at it, definitely inspires me to get going on my own.
I am very tempted to grab a 5 but there are some big handhelds coming out soon that I'd rather have. The Ayaneo 3 and my Evo that should be shipping eventually. If i grab another android handheld it will likely be an Ayaneo Pocket Micro.
I hear ya, I have an evo and Odin 2 portal both on order and will keep whichever I like better. I guess I’ll see if the 5.5” is enough or the 7” is worth it.
Excellent video, I ordered the new devicer. but I am confused whether it can run ps5 and Switch smoothly? I don't care about upgrading the resolution, the important thing is that the all games works ?
I picked up a new in box pocket 4 pro for $140 on fb marketplace today, I was debating getting the pocket 5 but since I already have an odin 2 portal pre-ordered I felt that the price difference was too large for me to justify the rp5 over the deal I got on the 4 pro.
You answered my question with Gran turismo 4 it was laggy on the 4 pro and i see its not any better on the 5 i wont be upgrading how ever the 5 looks amazing along with the screen
what about PC games? I know, Android consoles are not the best for it, but i wanna know if can play some retro games like Vampire The Masquerade, Fable or Diablo II
So I have the rp4pro and it suffers on high detailed games I was wondering how to you fix resolution cuz I do want to try baldurs gate dark alliance and games like surf up
For some games you may need to drop the resolution multiplier. There are also just some games that unfortunately have poor compatibility with emulation as it stands right now.
The main differences are 2gb more ram in the 5 and Android 13 instead of 10 but I think in practice they’re going to be pretty similar as they have the same chip.
Why and how is Retroid able to build a device so fast (going from RP4 to RP5 in just months) whereas big companies take years and years to develop theirs (thinking of the Switch 2 which has taken too many years to come out, and thinking of the xbox handheld which is a couple years away.
This also means that an RP6 will be coming in what.. the next 6 months? It's a bit annoying knowing that the RP5 will probably be outdated in the next 6months - 1 year
They are totally different products. We don’t want big companies to release this frequently. And they have much more rigorous testing and quality control. These handhelds are more like a phone with a controller strapped on than a real gaming console. Consoles have rigorous QC and testing, game libraries and development to think of, huge marketing, the list goes on.
I've never actually played on nether. Is it still required that we patch aether to update it and get nether working? Thx Also, is there an easy way to move our current apps on an android over to the rp5? Thx! 🙏
People should be aware for switch emulation the retroid pocket 5 is better because you can change the gpu drivers to “turnip drivers” this makes games like breath of the wild playable and fixes major graphical bugs.
not much of a leap for an rp4p owner with the systems I want to play and with the anbernic RG/T820-ish prices makes it more enticing that it can push such numbers all the while fitting in my pocket but snapdragon just might be a better move longterm(?)
@@bassderek yeah can only wish coz I don't see the price for such a single purpose device coming down anytime soon and personally wouldn't make much sense past 300. Hopefully more competing products show up by then. Wonky shipping and taxes included :')
@bassderek true I only use it for ps1 and PS2 rn and I kinda dip in some vita and 3ds emulation. Outside of some graphical error with mkdd dolphin runs okayish?
I bought the RP3+, then the RP4Pro dropped a month later. I pulled the plug and got the Watermelon. Three months later this drops, and the whole time, I am like damn it, but the OLED bigger screen keeps tugging at my wallet. I'm doomed.
Yeah I thought so too. But I checked and at least in dolphin, vulkan ran much faster. I actually re did some of the benches for the video because of that.
In HomELandeR: Voice... I am done "Apologizing" 🦅🙃 A - O2 Pro... All Black Edition... RaZeR Edge Tablet + BsP D8 Bluetooth Controller (Sky Black or Star Space White Edition) Owner...
I already have a Steamdeck and the RP4 Pro so I won't be buying the RP5. The size of the RP4 Pro is perfect and if I need more power I use the Steamdeck.
Han dicho que no sacarán una versión Pro. ¿alguien se lo cree? Todo es marketing. Ahora venderán la normal y en unos meses anunciarán la Pro. Me parece demasiado extraña esa maniobra sabiendo que la Poquet 5 y la 4 Pro son casi idénticas en rendimiento. La 5 Pro es la que realmente marcará la diferencia. No ha salido ahora porque saben que la gente no compraría la versión normal, que es más o menos lo mismo que le ha pasado a la 4 (normal). La gente prefería la versión Pro. Es un negocio.
@@bassderek When it was first announced, many people were comparing specs and stating the 5 was weaker than the 4P and wouldn't play PS2 or GC nearly as well.
Is it even possible to exchange processors from a device to another cause I really prefer the way my rp4 looks but hate how every games I wanted to play aren't playable because of the goofy aaah mali processor the rp4 have 😭☠️?
Well the test isn’t so much about if it looks better, just what performance it can achieve. Both handhelds are capable of playing these games at a clear resolution.
@@bassderek ok... i was kinda confused :) i mean with SOME games i saw the small difference but for Kirby i didn't see anything. It's kinda wild for me though that we are now able to play PS2 and GC on a handheld. I recently bought an Ambernic RG35XX H and i think next year a new one so i can play PS2 games
Actually, No. everything is almost the same EXCEPT that the Dimensity 1100 have 55% Higher GPU score in GeekBench 6 and 11% in 3DMark Wilf Life performance. Dimensity 1100 is using Valhall 1st gen with 850 MHz GPU frequency with 9 pipelines VS SD865 is using Adreno 600 587 MHz GPU frequency only with 2 pipelines. why is every retro handheld reviewers deliberately exclude this information... like they are paid or sponsored for.... Wait... cause they are....
I can tell you that I paid for this Rp4p with my own money, I’ve preordered an Rp5 with my own money. Do you think I somehow altered the tests in my video? This is real life, I tested them and gave each device the best settings to perform. I don’t care if you keep or buy an RP4P instead.
The retro pocket 4 screen is terrible. So difficult to get focused on things or gaming. Is not your typical IPS screen, there’s some sort of cheap backlight reflector that irritates your eyes terribly.
I’m not sure how it disappoints? It can exceed the device resolution with the exception of some PS2, which still runs at a crisp enough resolution. Maybe I am biased because of the screen, but the screen is wayyyyyyy better.
I guess, but even if only playing ps2 the RP5 offers a better and larger screen and a bit better comfort. But yeah, the 4 Pro is still relevant for sure.
You let strangers on the internet impact your mind so badly, you decided to carry that drama over to another platform? Log off for a bit and grab some fresh air.
Yes, sad that AetherSX2 development pretty much stopped. Who knows how long/if we will see someone else work on an android PS2 emulator that is meaningful. Lots of fake false starts so far.
Do you have the RP4 Pro? Are you upgrading? Are you buying the RP5? Let me know!
Pre-ordered the RP5. I only own one Anbernic handheld, and I'm pretty excited about that thing. Great video, ty!
I currently have the RG35XXSP and I have ordered the Retroid Pocket 5.
I'm SUPER keen for this thing to arrive :) It's so much more capable than the SP, and I just keep finding more games that it can play.
I own the rp4 pro...I'm gonna wait till the rp6. I'm sure they will tease it by the middle of next year
@@driftitlikeyouownit same bro, same
I have legion go, now ordered rp5 and pocket evo. This should be great trio :)
RP4Pro owner here. It's so small with great power. It's perfect for raw dogging with no case in my pockets for amusement park lines. I have addidas zipper pockets so not worried about it falling out during the ride. I feel like that's the perfect use case, especially since it preserves my phone battery in my other pocket. Any larger and it would probably be uncomfortable 2 devices in my pockets. Plus not super worried if it were to break tbh. I'll probably skip this generation and hope the RP6 is no bigger than the rp5 and still packs AMOLED but with a stronger chip. I just get scared raw dogging devices that approach 250+ with shipping, taxes etc
I don’t really put devices larger than my rg28xx in an actual pocket, and larger ones always get a case. But I can see your point if that is a priority for you!
Bro I’m the same way, portability went a long way for me, I can fit my 4pro in it’s case in my pockets or jacket pockets I skateboard so a lot of my pants are a lil baggy anyways, and even if I’ve got smaller pockets or am usually ju at carrying it around in my pocket I have a 3d printed clip shield, and it’s crazy good fits in my pocket just like a phone and I don’t have to worry ab the sticks or anything in my pockets, I honestly sold my switch cause it wasn’t portable like when I had a 3ds, which I also needs put some of those on my rp4p come to think of it
I just got done this morning adding another 40 or so ps2 games to my alr 70 ps2 game collection, what’s crazy is I do legit play them, and not only that but I’ve had friends and even my dad has started coming over to my house cause we can play so many couch co op games on my big tv and hook multiple controllers easily and I’ve genuinely not had latency or lag, no one’s complained ab it and I haven’t even had slow downs when which surprised me for co op and multiple Bluetooth controllers, and not a single game multiplayer or single player I’ve come across a problem with, if it’s slow or something there’s legit always been a setting to fix it at least so far, is the and being able to just play it on my own in handheld mode I go back and forth between twilight princess on GameCube, ROM hacks like Pokémon unbound or radical red on gba and a ton more.c it’s honestly become my main handheld and home console, I still play my ps4 and will most likely keep playing certain rom hacks and psp/vita games always on my Japan ps vita I modded myself and is what got me into emulation, I’m glad I still use both, and I’m more than happy, I’ll prob stick with the 4 pro for a long time like most likely at least a couple years, I do the same thing with my phones and wait for a big generation leap, rn I’m more than happy and content 🤝
I think the rp5 looks hella beautiful tho and I do like the design cause it reminds me of a more future vita, really excited to see what they come out with next few gens, great video and review btw!
@@redfoot2 rp6 with a redesign or a rpmini+ with a 4 inch screen and quiet buttons. Rp5 doesn't give off any retro vibes imo
@@jinstinky501i would also like to see a mini+. i thought i was the only one, but a 4-4.2in screen would make it so much more useable for me
My total was exactly 299 with DHL shipping, but I also threw in the screen protector, charger, shell, and carrying case too.
Exactly what i was looking for since the RP5 came out. Thanks man!
Glad I could help!
excellent comparison. I'm exceedingly happy with my purchase of a secondhand rp4p for $120
For that price it’s an amazing performer!
From where?
@@suhtangwongtry eBay?
@@thatguy00271 love my rp4pro. Arrived two weeks ago, should be more than enough until the rp6 comes out
This is an excellent video that shows exactly why synthetic numbers don't always tell the complete story. Awesome work, Derek! 🙏🙏🤗🤗
Retro Tech Dad comment, good way to start the day! 🙌
the only reason i don't wanna upgrade to the 5 is this
1) If i really want performance, I can spring for the Odin 2 Mini with its 8G2 processor while also having a similar footprint, or go big with the Odin 2. Sure, the jump between D1100 and 865 is decent (especially with Turnip drivers) but it still can't square up fully with 8G2, much less if you're intending to dock and requiring to use higher upscale.
2) most of the games I play on the retroid are Gamecube which is fine to play at 1.5-2x on that small screen. I ain't using a dock to play on my PC monitor or TV where I have to upscale a lot and in turin causing lag etc
3) If I really want best performance for PS2 games, I would just play on PC cuz PCSX2 Exists.
4) the issue now is emulation efficiency on emulator apps on android. Switch is barely on life support with takedowns and PS2 emulator development has stalled for the most part. back to #1 Odin 2 really hit the highest point for android emulation performance already cuz 8G2 is still relatively new while being the same processor as last year's flagship phones like S23 etc.
and lastly the dumbest reason
5) I love the watermelon colour a lot it's a shame the 5 doesn't have much colour options. The watermelon colour definitely adds more spa-zazz and personality than just the black/white/"off white" style colours.
I do wish the watermelon was a thing in the 5! The texture of the plastic is nice in that one, too.
@bassderek hands down. I still wish they kept the translucent purple but eh red is lit ngl.
Between the gc, 16bit and the screen blending effect of the black device, there are already enough color options to make your decision a living hell. I don't need more options, I want less, because I can't decide already :D
@@Watamel0n no way your name is watermelon and not wanting a RP5 watermelon
HERESY
In HomELandeR:
Voice...
I am done "Apologizing"
🦅🙃
A - O2 Pro... All Black Edition...
RaZeR Edge Tablet + BsP D8 Bluetooth Controller (Sky Black or Star Space White Edition)
Owner...
Great video man, I think people really undersold how much of a difference snapdragon makes.
Yeah for GC it's like night and day. Unfortunately not for PS2 though...but hey you are mostly going to set the resolution to 2.5x most of the time to match the screen so no biggie
No one should buy an android handheld for switch but that OLED looks incredible. Even on TH-cam. Great video!
Yeah I agree, but still nice to see what might run as a bonus.
Finally a comparison video
I knew this was the case and still ordered an RP5. I'm an OLED Fiend
You and me both, friend.
@bassderek My RG556 had 3 dead pixels, here's hoping Retroid can get it right where Anbernic couldn't.
I just bought a RP4P and am currently awaiting its delivery from Retroid. £155 for a brand new RP4P with the bugs ironed out (triggers) was plenty for me to be paying out. I might get hit with customs yet which will probably put me in at £190/£200. If I had bought the 5 I’d be looking around £250/260 at that point I’m starting to look at a steam deck.
Totally fair, it’s still very capable (as shown)!
@ sometimes I feel like I made the wrong choice but hopefully I enjoy it. Nice video by the way. Maybe you could do Dreamcast and Saturn next?
@@sxixlxnx That price difference I honestly can't fault you mate. I'm thinking of getting the 4 Pro myself as it's currently £75 cheaper.
@ I have had mine a couple weeks now and I love it. I got rid of my analogue pocket and have this. Okay it’s emulation vs fpga so hardly a comparison to the purists but with that being said this has all the benefits and no negatives imo. Originally I was sceptical of having an android based system but now I appreciate it. A bit of tinkering and the UI looks great plus we have the google playstore. There’s nothing like playing PS1 in your lunch break and then moving on to Streets Of Rage 4
Great comparison with these 2 devices never had the 4 pro but did order the 5😊
I think you’ll like it, I have had a lot of fun with it.
This is what I was looking for, thanks for the comparison
Glad I could help and thanks for watching!
Ayyee awesome deep dive man! St00bz
Can't wait for the Retroid Pocket 6 🥰
Me in the nursing home: is the Retroid Pocket 47 out yet?
@@bassderek😂
@@bassderek I can't wait until the retroid POCKET actually fits into one. With the RP5 they're making us wear Clown Pants.
Probably be out in 3 months
Form factor is king for me, I love the design of the 4 Pro. I'm not sold on the look of the RP5. I have an RG556 and it is nice for sitting at home on the couch, but I'd never take it anywhere with me, whereas I rarely go anywhere without the RP4 Pro. It won that spot despite me thinking it was too small a screen for the price for the longest time. Now, if I reach for anything bigger than the RP4 Pro, I'm generally grabbing the Steam Deck.
What I'd have loved is the design of the 4 Pro, with the Snapdragon chip and larger screen (because I'm certain they could have fit a full 5 inch screen - or 4.95 like the TrimUI Smart Pro). That might have made me jump. As it is now, I'll wait to see what the RP6 looks like. I'm sure the RP5 will be a hit and people will love it, but it isn't for me.
Thanks for this comparison though.
I got a 4 pro and it's exactly what I needed in a handheld. Anything newer than Wii I'll play on Switch.
Yeah I honestly don’t recommend playing switch on either of these.
I have a R4 Pro. It is a totally luxury purchase for me. The slight performance bump is really not good enough to have an upgrade. Retroid upgrades their products all the time. I just really want the screen.
Definitely the screen is the biggest reason to consider but it’s good not to always buy the next thing… there will always be something better.
Great video, man. I love the neat wrap up at the end. I'll probably get the 4 pro since I won't be playing switch much. Subscribed.
Thanks! 🙏
Some Android gaming would have been nice to see a comparison on but this was great to see how things really stack up on emulation! Thanks!
Thanks! I find Android games a bit harder to measure but I will try to figure out a meaningful comparison there.
It's obvious that the RP5 is better in a real world scenario. But this video actually reminded me of how impressive the RP4P actually is! I have the RP4P and I just pre-ordered the Odin2 Portal. So upgrading to the RP5 seems unnecessary at this point.
I have a portal coming also. And yeah, maybe if I saved you some money, glad to help haha!
I always wanted 1 of those retro emulation handhelds because the screen looks great and you can play on a tv. I might buy 1 soon.
Great job on this review. Very well put together
Thanks for the feedback!
Thank you for this awesome comparison review 🙌
Glad you liked it!
Nice comparison! Very good for deciding between them.
Thanks, glad I can help people out!
The pure black bars on the sides are just beautiful. 😍
They really are. The 16:9 screen doesn’t bother me at all for retro content
Thank you so much for making a comparison video between the 2! I bought a 4 pro when it came out and wanted to see if it was worth upgrading. I dont emulate anything past 6th generation and i never upscale anything so the 4 pro is good enough for me it seems
Glad I could help, save the money for now!
amazing comparison, thanks!
No, thank YOU!
Very useful, thx! I have a rp4 pro and play a LOT with AR glasses so the rp5 screen, while nice, is not a major factor for me. I think I'll wait for the rp6 or just get an odin 2.
Yeah if you’re using another display depending on what you play the upgrade may not be worth it.
Subscribed, keep up the good work, people will recognise the quality of your videos
Thank you, I appreciate it!
lol
Nice video, Derek! 🍻
Thanks!
Oh thank the lord. I've been waiting for a comparison between the 2
I've been waiting to do it!
Just the video I was looking for. Have an RP4 Pro and mostly play PS2, doesn't really seem worth it just for that, but the screen would be the main upgrade unless you're playing a lot of GC.
I agree, the screen is the biggest differentiator.
Awesome! Great detail and information here. There is simply no reason to choose the RP4 over the RP5 (if you can afford it)
Dude, wth? Only 4 Videos and such great content ??? Where have you been hiding? :D Instant follow!
@@seminmensah Thank you! I did a handful of videos for the Retro handhelds channel first so I got a little bit of practice.
Putting the switch emulation aside, would in you opinion make any sense picking an odin 2 pro over the rp5?
Slightly larger (but in my opinion worse) screen, performance that is more of a guarantee that everything will run well upscaled (though the RP5 handles most ps2/gc at at least 2x no problem), top joystick location, possibly more comfortable for joystick games (depending on your hands). I didn't bond with the Odin 2 and would rather have this for the OLED screen and smaller size.
Excited about the Retroid Pocket 6.
Excellent video!
Subbed.
Thank you so much!
Just want to know if 4pro runs kirby games and pokemon well ? That is the max imma go with switch ! Need it more for gba and gamecube and 3ds which i feel shall work fine on rp4
Nice review. Subbed :)
You are appreciated!
Excellent video
Thank you for taking the time to watch!
Great comparison. I'm not a fan of the rp4 and my thoughts are that if it needs a grip to be comfortable to use, the grip may as well be part of the device and so I'm on team rp5
Yeah I’m usually not a huge fan of adding grips. To be fair the RP5 still has room for ergonomic improvement when using both sticks though.
@bassderek fair only so much can be done when the sticks are both at the bottom I guess
Do the RP5 and the RP mini have the same specs ?
They have the same CPU/GPU. The 5 has 2gb more ram and higher res display, but otherwise they are the same, yes.
Almost bought this, but ordered the Odin Pro instead as I mostly need a machine to get my daughter off my Steam Deck for playing Minecraft, and she prefers stick on top.
I’d like to see a comparison like this with the RG Cube vs RP Mini 🤔🎮
I don’t actually have a cube, but that’s a good idea to show the difference between the T820 and SD865. Maybe if/when an rg406h arrives.
Good topic, I like this. Can you compare the RG556 as well? I know some users are considering selling to get the quality screen and ergonomics we're used to but with better sticks and performance. Unclear how much better that performance really is yet though for what might be an extra $50-$70 plus shipping depending what how much you sell the RG556 for
I don’t currently have a 556 but will see if ii can get one.
@@bassderek thanks for even considering, appreciated
Did you use turnip drivers on the 5?
I probably should have mentioned, I tried them but in most cases they did not help or made it crash.
How do you only have 92 subs?!
I've been looking for a creator that has almost no subs so that I can watch a meteoric rise take place in real time, and brother I just found my channel.
This tbh
You flatter me! I just started a week ago. I spent a few months doing some videos as part of another channel before deciding to go solo.
@@bassderek I've thought about starting TH-cam myself, I run a small PC and retro game shop and it would be cool to use it as some extra reach for the business. It's great to see someone jump in feet first and do a really good job at it, definitely inspires me to get going on my own.
@@TierNoneOperator if I wouldn’t have seen this I would’ve thought he had at least 1k subs
ahh the standard youtube commenter ass kissing. got to love it. this channel is nothing special infact its a bit shit
I think I'm going to wait for a RP5 Pro for now... I'm happy with my 4 Pro as it is.
I don't think there will be a 5 Pro, but a 6 in a year... probably. If you're happy with the 4 Pro, save the cash!
Whopping £75 difference here in the UK makes me tempted to just go for the Retroid 4 Pro instead 😅
I am very tempted to grab a 5 but there are some big handhelds coming out soon that I'd rather have. The Ayaneo 3 and my Evo that should be shipping eventually. If i grab another android handheld it will likely be an Ayaneo Pocket Micro.
I hear ya, I have an evo and Odin 2 portal both on order and will keep whichever I like better. I guess I’ll see if the 5.5” is enough or the 7” is worth it.
I haven’t been able to decide since the RP2 😅
Hey, maybe better not too fall in the pit of consumerism like some of us 😅
Excellent video, I ordered the new devicer. but I am confused whether it can run ps5 and Switch smoothly? I don't care about upgrading the resolution, the important thing is that the all games works ?
Bro ps5?
2nd switch games will work. Heavier ones won't.
@@harshrajjadhav940 sorry ps2
Switch is still very hit and miss, I wouldn’t buy it if that was your main purpose. PS2 runs just fine (PS5 most certainly does not run lol).
@ thanks.. sorry I meant ps2
I picked up a new in box pocket 4 pro for $140 on fb marketplace today, I was debating getting the pocket 5 but since I already have an odin 2 portal pre-ordered I felt that the price difference was too large for me to justify the rp5 over the deal I got on the 4 pro.
The portal will be even more capable so not a bad combo! Good price on the RP4.
@ I figured the perfect combo of having a more portable device and a powerhouse for more at home use!
You answered my question with Gran turismo 4 it was laggy on the 4 pro and i see its not any better on the 5 i wont be upgrading how ever the 5 looks amazing along with the screen
The screen is definitely the best feature
Like my rp4 pro ,wont change for a while yet it does ps2 and Game Cube really well
Keep on Keepin' On!
thank you this helps!
Glad I could help!
RP4pro and RP5 can connect Wi-Fi playing Game together? Thanks
Depends on the emulator but if they are on the same WiFi network it should be possible.
I guess I'm going to stick with the 4 pro since I've been using it mainly for the ps2 anyways.
For sure, if you are happy with the device size and screen, no big reason to upgrade.
Out run 2006 is a very difficult game to emulate on every single version released.
what about PC games? I know, Android consoles are not the best for it, but i wanna know if can play some retro games like Vampire The Masquerade, Fable or Diablo II
It should be able to, Retro Tech Dad has a great video showcasing Winlator on the RP Mini (same chip).
So I have the rp4pro and it suffers on high detailed games I was wondering how to you fix resolution cuz I do want to try baldurs gate dark alliance and games like surf up
For some games you may need to drop the resolution multiplier. There are also just some games that unfortunately have poor compatibility with emulation as it stands right now.
@ ah so for your rp4pro you didn’t have baldurs dark alliance
Are you using ES-DE for the launcher? 👀👀
I am! It’s my favorite launcher at the moment.
@ 🫡💯
Been considering the rp5 or rpMini. Currently have rp4pro & rgCube…this video helps tremendously. Thanks 😊
@@jqwearyFWIW, the RP5 brings me more joy than the RP Mini, personally.
The rp4 pro is lowest $165 on ebay, where are you guys finding it for $120???
Private and local markets, sometimes they pop on eBay but get snatched quickly.
What about RP Mini and RP5 any noticeable difference?
The main differences are 2gb more ram in the 5 and Android 13 instead of 10 but I think in practice they’re going to be pretty similar as they have the same chip.
Why and how is Retroid able to build a device so fast (going from RP4 to RP5 in just months) whereas big companies take years and years to develop theirs (thinking of the Switch 2 which has taken too many years to come out, and thinking of the xbox handheld which is a couple years away.
This also means that an RP6 will be coming in what.. the next 6 months? It's a bit annoying knowing that the RP5 will probably be outdated in the next 6months - 1 year
They are totally different products. We don’t want big companies to release this frequently. And they have much more rigorous testing and quality control. These handhelds are more like a phone with a controller strapped on than a real gaming console. Consoles have rigorous QC and testing, game libraries and development to think of, huge marketing, the list goes on.
It was one year between the 4 and 5, presumably another year til the next. Could be worse… could be anbernic haha.
@@bassderek pretty sure the RP4 Pro was like 3-4 months ago, no?
@@dadou193RP4 Pro Pre Orders went live in December. So 9 months between.
I've never actually played on nether. Is it still required that we patch aether to update it and get nether working? Thx
Also, is there an easy way to move our current apps on an android over to the rp5? Thx! 🙏
Yes, but there’s a script that will download and patch the Aether APK for you so it’s not too bad.
People should be aware for switch emulation the retroid pocket 5 is better because you can change the gpu drivers to “turnip drivers” this makes games like breath of the wild playable and fixes major graphical bugs.
I had mixed results in my testing with turnip, but will need to dive deeper once I get my retail rp5.
not much of a leap for an rp4p owner with the systems I want to play and with the anbernic RG/T820-ish prices makes it more enticing that it can push such numbers all the while fitting in my pocket but snapdragon just might be a better move longterm(?)
Maybe wait for a device with 8g2 if you want something more powerful longer term? But who knows if we will ever see a $220 device with that chip.
@@bassderek yeah can only wish coz I don't see the price for such a single purpose device coming down anytime soon and personally wouldn't make much sense past 300. Hopefully more competing products show up by then. Wonky shipping and taxes included :')
please if you can check burnout 3 on the ps2 because its a really hard to run game and a comparison will mean a lot! thanks for the vicdeo :)
Pretty sure it runs at least at 2x, but I don't have an RP5 in hand at the moment. My retail unit will get delivered in the next week or so.
I got my rp4 pro back in august right before rp5 and mini was announced-
It’s still a good handheld!
@bassderek true I only use it for ps1 and PS2 rn and I kinda dip in some vita and 3ds emulation. Outside of some graphical error with mkdd dolphin runs okayish?
Does the retro pocket five come with mario games And games like that
It does not come with any games, no.
Do you need a PC to add games?
It helps, but you can download them using WiFi on the device.
@ so the pocket four and five you can download off of Wi-Fi
[5.5" 1080p OLED] vs [4.7" 1334x750 IPS] If you don't have either, the screen alone makes it worth paying the extra $35
For someone who doesn't already have a handheld in this size class, yeah at new price I'd definitely say go RP5.
I bought the RP3+, then the RP4Pro dropped a month later. I pulled the plug and got the Watermelon. Three months later this drops, and the whole time, I am like damn it, but the OLED bigger screen keeps tugging at my wallet. I'm doomed.
There will always be something new…
I though snapdragon chips run better in openGL?
Yeah I thought so too. But I checked and at least in dolphin, vulkan ran much faster. I actually re did some of the benches for the video because of that.
It'd be nice if they would actually ship the RP5 to the rest of us already, I'm sick of waiting.
Shipments started today, I just got notice for my retail unit.
NBA street vol 2 is critical Derek
Duly noted 🫡
In HomELandeR:
Voice...
I am done "Apologizing"
🦅🙃
A - O2 Pro... All Black Edition...
RaZeR Edge Tablet + BsP D8 Bluetooth Controller (Sky Black or Star Space White Edition)
Owner...
🤷🏻♂️❓
@bassderek RP-5 = A-O2 PORTAL MINI....Wins...
Running a Snapdragon 865 chip...
🤔😎🙃
I already have a Steamdeck and the RP4 Pro so I won't be buying the RP5. The size of the RP4 Pro is perfect and if I need more power I use the Steamdeck.
Good plan!
Same. I rarely use my rp4p anyway
5:49 the size difference is very noticeable
Definitely a nice screen area gain despite not being too much larger of a device.
There's a store over here in Puerto Rico selling the 3 for 200 😂 🤦🤦🤦
Ah, yeah prices outside of US can be crazy 🙀
that screen on the 5!
Yeah, my thoughts. Might be the best screen in a handheld I’ve used yet (that’s under 7” anyway).
Han dicho que no sacarán una versión Pro. ¿alguien se lo cree? Todo es marketing. Ahora venderán la normal y en unos meses anunciarán la Pro. Me parece demasiado extraña esa maniobra sabiendo que la Poquet 5 y la 4 Pro son casi idénticas en rendimiento. La 5 Pro es la que realmente marcará la diferencia. No ha salido ahora porque saben que la gente no compraría la versión normal, que es más o menos lo mismo que le ha pasado a la 4 (normal). La gente prefería la versión Pro. Es un negocio.
I think they upset a lot of people with the 3 and 3 plus, I don’t think there will be a pro version.
If more people watched this video, maybe they'd stop saying that the RP4P performs better.
Are people saying that?
@@bassderek When it was first announced, many people were comparing specs and stating the 5 was weaker than the 4P and wouldn't play PS2 or GC nearly as well.
@@christophergarcia6064wasn’t that because they announced it with 6GB of ram initially
Is it even possible to exchange processors from a device to another cause I really prefer the way my rp4 looks but hate how every games I wanted to play aren't playable because of the goofy aaah mali processor the rp4 have 😭☠️?
No that stuff is all soldered on and would require completely different Android kernels and stuff.
@bassderek well I'll be waiting for a rp5 s or mini or something like that I guess 😭
O_o either i'm Blind or Old but ... with the Kirby game i can't see a difference
Well the test isn’t so much about if it looks better, just what performance it can achieve. Both handhelds are capable of playing these games at a clear resolution.
@@bassderek ok... i was kinda confused :) i mean with SOME games i saw the small difference but for Kirby i didn't see anything.
It's kinda wild for me though that we are now able to play PS2 and GC on a handheld. I recently bought an Ambernic RG35XX H and i think next year a new one so i can play PS2 games
❤
💙
Actually, No. everything is almost the same EXCEPT that the Dimensity 1100 have 55% Higher GPU score in GeekBench 6 and 11% in 3DMark Wilf Life performance.
Dimensity 1100 is using Valhall 1st gen with 850 MHz GPU frequency with 9 pipelines
VS
SD865 is using Adreno 600 587 MHz GPU frequency only with 2 pipelines.
why is every retro handheld reviewers deliberately exclude this information... like they are paid or sponsored for....
Wait... cause they are....
I can tell you that I paid for this Rp4p with my own money, I’ve preordered an Rp5 with my own money. Do you think I somehow altered the tests in my video? This is real life, I tested them and gave each device the best settings to perform. I don’t care if you keep or buy an RP4P instead.
20:00
If you combine them you get a 3ds
Big Brain 🤯
The retro pocket 4 screen is terrible. So difficult to get focused on things or gaming. Is not your typical IPS screen, there’s some sort of cheap backlight reflector that irritates your eyes terribly.
I’m not a huge fan of the 4 pro screen either. But I think it bothers some people more than others…
Performance not quite there yet. Maybe Pocket 6 🤷
Um... did you watch the video?
Been using the Snapdragon 865 chip in my Samsung TAB-S7 11inch...
It is very capable...
More optimization from RetroiD is needed..
🥸🧐
Pocket 9000 when?
@@christophergarcia6064 yes?
Looks a bit biased towards the 5. You want it to be so much better yet it clearly disappoints.
I’m not sure how it disappoints? It can exceed the device resolution with the exception of some PS2, which still runs at a crisp enough resolution. Maybe I am biased because of the screen, but the screen is wayyyyyyy better.
watch out... fanboys are going to cry because the rp5 has almost the same performance on ps2... (right now they hate me on facebook for saying it)
Larger screen, higher resolution, better blacks, colours etc., grips
How dare you 😡
I guess, but even if only playing ps2 the RP5 offers a better and larger screen and a bit better comfort. But yeah, the 4 Pro is still relevant for sure.
Ur cringe dude
You let strangers on the internet impact your mind so badly, you decided to carry that drama over to another platform? Log off for a bit and grab some fresh air.
Strange ps2 behavior. Guess that's just the state of ps2 emulation.
Yes, sad that AetherSX2 development pretty much stopped. Who knows how long/if we will see someone else work on an android PS2 emulator that is meaningful. Lots of fake false starts so far.
Sell me your 4pro then....
Haha, ahead sold to another, sorry!
dpad on top = no buy
DPAD position is a hotly contested topic…
Buy it for the form factor, not irs performance
A valid reason!
Video is a waste of time. The start and select positions is the only information you need to make an informed decision.
I mean, I kind of agree. I do not like bottom corner start select. Ayaneo does it, too.