Heya! So just a few fixes for those in a newer version of unreal (I'm in 5.4) - Wind Force: Either disable it or set it to something like x: 10, y: 10, z: and Wind Speed Scale to 2.0. This will help contain your cloud alot more. Then in turbulence, set the scale to about 8, Frequency to 2 and Turbulence flow duration to about 2 as well. Play around with this, because it really gives it that tenticle look. Not sure if it's what you want, but worth looking into - Point attraction force: Set the strength to about 80 and enable falloff exponential and set to about 0.2 - I disabled gravity but up to you - Set your drag to about 80 - Set your Curl Noise Forces above a value of 1 The rest is up to you, but it should start putting you onto the path of something less "swarm of bugs" and more "Typhon from prey" Hope it helps :)
To clarify: If, when you apply the "scale mesh size" effect, all of your particles disappear, do the following: 1. From the unity main view, double click your niagara asset. This will open the view he spends the majority of this video on, with the node map. 2. Click the orange top part of the "hanging particulates" node. On the right side of the window, an attributes area will display. It will show regions like Emitter Settings, Emitter Spawn, Emitter update.. 3. There should be a search box at the top of said window. Inside, type "mesh" 4. Your view should pop down to an option called Mesh Attributes -> Mesh scale mode. If it doesn't, use the arrow buttons in the search box to navigate through the results of the search. It should be the 1st result. 5. From the dropdown, select "uniform."
For those wondering why ur particles disappear after adding the scale mesh size in UE5, click on the hanging particulates node, search for mesh attributes and set it to uniform
Using UE5 and following along, it took me a lot longer to get this going properly than I expected. My tip is to do all of the steps in the video (even if you're not seeing the same thing that's being shown at the time) because a few things are out of order, like discussing the Drag force. Also, there are several updates and helpful tips in the video description and the comment section that helped me get a result I'm happy with!
In 5.0 after you set the mesh size to UNIFORM in the Mesh Attributes, you can then (In that same section/panel) add a FLOAT FROM CURVE that does the same job as the original Scale Mesh Size node in the tutorial (Use that same size setting - 0.13)
Wonderful tutorial! And I don't even use UE! I just wanted to comment because around 6:08 you moved the light and I said out loud "woa" and half a second later, you made the exact same sound so I felt deeply connected to the feeling you had :)
I just watched a 30 minute video from nvidia thinking I would learn to make something. Instead they just went over UI and settings. Thanks for making something quick and useful!
Great tutorial. The only thing missing was how to make that simple initial setup of the glowing orb in a volumetric environment. But I found a few other TH-cam vids to help me build that.
@@calm455 I had to tweak a couple things a little bit to get it working well in UE5. Increasing the Falloff Exponent (I ended up with 0.7) on the Point Attraction Force helped, I also reduced gravity a ton, and for the 'Wind Force' in UE5 I set the scale to 6.0 and the Frequency to 0.2. Definitely still not as cool as his but it's close :/
In ue5.1 you get completely different results than here, even if you fix the mini bugs in the video description. Could you make an updatet viedeo on this because thats really cool
Man! Thank you so much, this was so much fun, it looks amazing and gives settings to play with. How you explained this in 6 minutes is awesome. Please do more!
thank you very much, figured out a little how to make effects. From the outside it looks difficult how to do it, but in fact it is easy. (well, depending on what effect you want to achieve)
Great tutorial! Much appreciated! I just started learning Niagara and I can't really find any tutorials that helps me understand how the functions work and where to find what I need.
I'm using 4.26 and getting very different results from the point of adding the first curl noise. The particles just form themselves into a long tube sort of shape. ...Actually just had a thought half way through this comment and tried setting the noise frequency to 1, which gives me something closer to the video. I guess maybe they changed the unit scale for this at some point?
You're definitely onto something with the frequency there, I tweaked the values up on both curl noises and had much more similar (although not exact) results. I noticed that the newer version also adds a non-zero random seed to these, whereas it seems OP's seed defaults to zero.
In addition, the drag module uses a random range with this sample emitter. If you select the drag module, select the drop down next to the drag value, and select "New Local Value", it'll allow you to set the constant scalar value to 1... at 4:40 he finally sets it to 10.
@@Maciok2000 With UE 5.1, I found a "Speed Limit" setting under the Solve Forces and Velocity item that should already be included with the HangingParticulates node. The default (for me) was 1000.
there is actually no background in this case, this effect is created with height fog set to volumetric and a post processing volume. I'll definitely make some more tutorials down the road
Amazing tutorial, thanks Sem! Question to anyone... the BP_SH_LightBulb... how/what is that? Is it a Point Light? Or an object with an Emissive Material, etc?
Thanks so much for the updated info and prompt response to the difference and fix with UE4.26 with Mesh Scale. I have another issue however. I swear I have followed this guide perfectly but, when I get to adding the first curl noise around 3:45 in the video, my particles start to shoot downward. I have no beautiful movements :( I've watched video over several times rebuilding each time and checking my work. Still I get stuck here each time. Any advise would be much appreciated.
I had to change my noise frequency to .4 not sure if I repeatedly messed up following this tutorial or the scaling of ue4.26 changed from when this video was show. It's most likely me doing something very wrong
Same boat. This tutorial is outdated with the current engine settings. I keep getting what looks a steady stream, all clumped up, and none of the other effects are happening.
@@jacrossiter2097 Thanks for the reply Jac. I somehow managed to figure it out and was able to throw together a sequence to go with some music I had made. th-cam.com/video/3nuo4mD_QWU/w-d-xo.html
Hi! Fantastic! I'll be honest I've spent the night trying to reproduce your 6 minutes work LOL And I got VERY close to your result. I applied your latest fixes. But I get nice curves and particles attempt to stick together on the final result, but still not as nice as your work. I believe there are a couple of parameters that you had already tweaked. Not sure, what. I'm sure it's a small thing. Could you describe what is your "initialize particles" settings and maybe also the "shape location". Anyhow THANK YOU, excellent tuto!!
Hi, yes, also had problems. Effect disappears if enabling the module. Solution: Change the MeshScaleMode Attribute in InitializeParticle Module from "Unset" to some other value, e.g. Uniform - this solved it for me.
Does anyone have a good video on how to render this my particle always come up missing during rendering I tried 60 fps and still not working, I know I’m missing something
If you're following this video and do everything right(and still see a big flying mess like I did, despite the Drag) turn down the wind speed and wind speed scale to 10.0. That literally changed everything for me.
In UE5 (5.0.2) when I implement this tutorial, all I get is one big "tentacle" of particles. (yes, I used the fixes for the 4.26 version from the comments) The tentacle itself rotates but it looks nothing like the finished result from this video.
@@hallociao9981 I just discovered a possible fix: Scale it down to 0.2 (uniformly) when placed in the world. For some reason the result looks much closer to the tutorial than before
So, I tried to repeat after the author, as you might have guessed I got a different result. BUT if you play with Curl noise 1,2 and Point Attraction, you get something similar...
Hi Sem, I have succeeded in making the same effect from your video, but there is one problem, my scene has a lot of light sources, and my question is - how did you manage to make Niagara follow this particular bulb of light? I don't know how to do that in my settings. Everything that you pointed out, I already did. (with some corrections because I work in UE 5, the latest version).
This is so awesome. I didn't think it was that easy. Is this expensive - performance wise? Can you control and change the variables from an outside script on the go?
Awesome stuff!! I recreated this in an environment, however I couldn't get Sequencer to record the point light . I added all the elements to the Sequencer as well- very weird.
@Sem_Schreuder Hello!! I'm having problems with UE 4.27 (I'm running a potato with a Radeon 6670 1GB so that can be an issue), when I apply the Scale Vector from Curve, my meshes stop rendering 🙁 pls halp
Hi! I'm using Unreal Engine 5.4 and I have a problem: the vortex, wind, point of attraction and curl noise don't seem to have the same effect of the video, I tried to set the values as you showed in the video but they result in a unique globe of particles. How could I fix this? Thank you!
Hi, I'm using iMac system when I select Mash Renderer Cube the software crashes immediately and I try over and over to have the same comsult. I don't know what happen and does anyone knows about this?
Heya! So just a few fixes for those in a newer version of unreal (I'm in 5.4)
- Wind Force: Either disable it or set it to something like x: 10, y: 10, z: and Wind Speed Scale to 2.0. This will help contain your cloud alot more. Then in turbulence, set the scale to about 8, Frequency to 2 and Turbulence flow duration to about 2 as well. Play around with this, because it really gives it that tenticle look. Not sure if it's what you want, but worth looking into
- Point attraction force: Set the strength to about 80 and enable falloff exponential and set to about 0.2
- I disabled gravity but up to you
- Set your drag to about 80
- Set your Curl Noise Forces above a value of 1
The rest is up to you, but it should start putting you onto the path of something less "swarm of bugs" and more "Typhon from prey"
Hope it helps :)
thanks a lot this new update changed the tutorial output
Fix 4.26 : Scale Mesh Size modules
1. Press on Niagara node
2. Find Mesh Attributes
3. Set mesh scale to Uniform
Thanks :)
To clarify: If, when you apply the "scale mesh size" effect, all of your particles disappear, do the following:
1. From the unity main view, double click your niagara asset. This will open the view he spends the majority of this video on, with the node map.
2. Click the orange top part of the "hanging particulates" node. On the right side of the window, an attributes area will display. It will show regions like Emitter Settings, Emitter Spawn, Emitter update..
3. There should be a search box at the top of said window. Inside, type "mesh"
4. Your view should pop down to an option called Mesh Attributes -> Mesh scale mode. If it doesn't, use the arrow buttons in the search box to navigate through the results of the search. It should be the 1st result.
5. From the dropdown, select "uniform."
@@komali2 Thanks for this Tipp, i had the same problems :D
@@komali2 Thanks
@@komali2 Very cool community! Thank you!
For those wondering why ur particles disappear after adding the scale mesh size in UE5, click on the hanging particulates node, search for mesh attributes and set it to uniform
Thank you so much!
you're awesome, thank you
king
Lifesaver!
Please marry me!
If you continue to make under 10 minute Niagara tutorials, I think you have found a niche in the tutorial market. This was great!
If only TH-cam didn't punish creators for making less than 10 minute videos in the algorithm.
@@AngryMan540 fuck youtube algo, i will share his tutorials!
totally agree with that. I would also think about supporting you on Patreon :D amazing format!!
This is defiantly a niche. Straight to the point and not an hour of messing around. Very good hope you continue this series
Make it under 12 minutes or something so you aren’t punished by youtube. This will take off
If you use UE5 and didn't get the result expected try (at 3:40) to use a noise frequency above 1.0
Using UE5 and following along, it took me a lot longer to get this going properly than I expected. My tip is to do all of the steps in the video (even if you're not seeing the same thing that's being shown at the time) because a few things are out of order, like discussing the Drag force. Also, there are several updates and helpful tips in the video description and the comment section that helped me get a result I'm happy with!
In 5.0 after you set the mesh size to UNIFORM in the Mesh Attributes, you can then (In that same section/panel) add a FLOAT FROM CURVE that does the same job as the original Scale Mesh Size node in the tutorial (Use that same size setting - 0.13)
Thanks a lot !
You are a fucking legend! saved me a tonne of time. Was about to give up.
legend!
it works!!! you're a star!!!
Someone should Pin this post....
Dude, this was so awesome! Came across it on Reddit. Followed along, and man it looks sick!
Wonderful tutorial! And I don't even use UE! I just wanted to comment because around 6:08 you moved the light and I said out loud "woa" and half a second later, you made the exact same sound so I felt deeply connected to the feeling you had :)
bingo
I just watched a 30 minute video from nvidia thinking I would learn to make something. Instead they just went over UI and settings. Thanks for making something quick and useful!
Really appreciate how you took some time to go back to this video to add some fixes with the project. Thank you!
Niagara is a seriously impressive vfx tool. It's very intuitive and by golly it seems to be dang efficient!
Great tutorial. The only thing missing was how to make that simple initial setup of the glowing orb in a volumetric environment. But I found a few other TH-cam vids to help me build that.
can you link the tutorials pls? thanks!
in UE5, disable the default "aerodynamic drag", then add the "drag" parameter to get the same results after the curl noise step. :) hope that helps
Hi, i followed this tutorial in UE5 and the particles are moving in one direction. You got any tips to fix it?
@@calm455 I had to tweak a couple things a little bit to get it working well in UE5. Increasing the Falloff Exponent (I ended up with 0.7) on the Point Attraction Force helped, I also reduced gravity a ton, and for the 'Wind Force' in UE5 I set the scale to 6.0 and the Frequency to 0.2. Definitely still not as cool as his but it's close :/
In ue5.1 you get completely different results than here, even if you fix the mini bugs in the video description.
Could you make an updatet viedeo on this because thats really cool
Man! Thank you so much, this was so much fun, it looks amazing and gives settings to play with. How you explained this in 6 minutes is awesome. Please do more!
just awesome! we need this for 5.4
I really need to learn Niagara, bite size vids like this are perfect. thanks!
just do it!
thank you very much, figured out a little how to make effects. From the outside it looks difficult how to do it, but in fact it is easy. (well, depending on what effect you want to achieve)
Great tutorial! Much appreciated! I just started learning Niagara and I can't really find any tutorials that helps me understand how the functions work and where to find what I need.
I'm using 4.26 and getting very different results from the point of adding the first curl noise. The particles just form themselves into a long tube sort of shape. ...Actually just had a thought half way through this comment and tried setting the noise frequency to 1, which gives me something closer to the video. I guess maybe they changed the unit scale for this at some point?
yeah same here
You're definitely onto something with the frequency there, I tweaked the values up on both curl noises and had much more similar (although not exact) results. I noticed that the newer version also adds a non-zero random seed to these, whereas it seems OP's seed defaults to zero.
yeap same here
Yep, good tips - something has def changed but bumping up the noise freqs on the 2 curls to above 1 seems to be the ticket.
In addition, the drag module uses a random range with this sample emitter. If you select the drag module, select the drop down next to the drag value, and select "New Local Value", it'll allow you to set the constant scalar value to 1... at 4:40 he finally sets it to 10.
It's amazing how this is done in just over 6 minutes, can't wait for new updates on your vfx shenanigans!
For those on 5.1 I needed to set max particle speed pretty low in order to get this effect. A couple other tweaks to drag and noise as well.
Where can I find max particle speed variable?
@@Maciok2000 With UE 5.1, I found a "Speed Limit" setting under the Solve Forces and Velocity item that should already be included with the HangingParticulates node. The default (for me) was 1000.
@@jleethompson2266 Thank you very much!
change the wind speed as well. That got me the exact same look as in the video.
I uh didn't really know why you were doing what but I still appreciate getting a glimpse into this stuff. Love the format!
I'm new to UE4, and this was a very short and sweet video to ramp up on VFX.
First Unreal tut. This is so awesome! Please do a tut on all environmental stuff going on here. So nice!
This was amazing! Great tutorial and awesome effect, really makes me want to learn more about particles in UE and do stuff with them! Thanks!
More of these please :) that's the shortest best looking Niagara tutorial I've seen.
Sam this is amazing. More content like this please!!! Subscribed
In ue4.27, set noise frequence of curl noise force to 1 to get similar outcome
thanks
I’m a Blender user, so seeing particle effects like this in real time is amazing!
Don't forget to set your fans to full speed if you want to watch these videos with the full Blender experience lol.
@@Gojira_Wins and 0.25 speed. Aside from asset editing/creation, I refuse to deal with the DCC antiquities software these days for actual rendering.
Best Niagara tutorial I've watched 😊
This is awesome!, I also really like the background/post processing, will you be making more tutorials?
there is actually no background in this case, this effect is created with height fog set to volumetric and a post processing volume.
I'll definitely make some more tutorials down the road
You could obtain a similar looking background with simply a uniform color grey background with a strong post-process vignette effect
@@shimlaDnB please do!
height fog and post processing settings?
@@Altrue Not sure about that, it's the height fog and his specific settings that's giving the really cool look........
man!!!! that got awesome so fast! nice job!
thank you!
Superp man!! I was waiting for such tutorial for a long time!!
props for keeping this up-to-date!
I love this and you for showing me this.
I hope youll keep presenting coold stuff on your channel.
Thanks. I wanted to learn Niagara system and you helped. Very concise, to the point.
This is mind blowingly cool!! Thanks for the tutorial!!
Has anyone done it in UE5.1? I am not getting the same results.
6:09 baffeled by your own creation :O the particle and lighting system in unreal is great.
Amazing tutorial, thanks Sem!
Question to anyone... the BP_SH_LightBulb... how/what is that? Is it a Point Light? Or an object with an Emissive Material, etc?
is possible material, I made almost the same simply by multiplying a color parameter with constant vector and placing the result at emissive color
the first time unreal crashed but i gave it a second try and i got it.. using unreal 5.1.1
tnx m8
Mesh Scale Mode has to be set to "Uniform" (by default it's "Unset"), otherwise "Scale mesh size" will make cubes invisibile.
how to set it on uniform? m new to UE please help
@@bharat_022 open niagara "Initialize particle" module, find Mesh attributes and change Mesh scale mode.
tried to follow this is using UE 5.3 sadly my "final" effect was a complete mess that was just a unorganized moving cloud.
Possible to do a new updated one with 5.03. The Curl Noise Force doesn't behave like you show in the video.
disable aerodynamic drag and add just the regular drag parameter
Incredible tutorial! Thank you so much!
This is so good! Please make more tutorials! Subscribed.
Чудовий 32' монітор з усіма модними функціями та чорною полосою через весь екран)
Definitely need more Tutorials like this!
Thanks so much for the updated info and prompt response to the difference and fix with UE4.26 with Mesh Scale. I have another issue however. I swear I have followed this guide perfectly but, when I get to adding the first curl noise around 3:45 in the video, my particles start to shoot downward. I have no beautiful movements :( I've watched video over several times rebuilding each time and checking my work. Still I get stuck here each time. Any advise would be much appreciated.
I had to change my noise frequency to .4 not sure if I repeatedly messed up following this tutorial or the scaling of ue4.26 changed from when this video was show. It's most likely me doing something very wrong
im in the same boat
same
Same boat. This tutorial is outdated with the current engine settings. I keep getting what looks a steady stream, all clumped up,
and none of the other effects are happening.
1:36 did anyone else's particle mesh (cube) disappear as soon as they added the Scale Mesh Size thing? I'm using UE5.0.1
In the Niagara System:
“Initialize Particle” → Mesh Attributes → Mesh Scale Mode
Set “Mesh Scale Mode” to Uniform.
@@jacrossiter2097 Thanks for the reply Jac. I somehow managed to figure it out and was able to throw together a sequence to go with some music I had made. th-cam.com/video/3nuo4mD_QWU/w-d-xo.html
Simple, but awesome tutorial! Thanks for sharing.
nice if use curve on size and color with atm light that great
Where to find the something shiny material? Using UE5 btw.
i love you never stop man. please upload more :)
that looks awesome. its very fluid.
Дякую за контент! Сподіваюсь далі буде)
Was wondering how do you setup the BP_SH_Lightbulb, it looks really great. I made one with emission material but it isn't looking great as yours
same here , did you make it yet
@@DesiBrit did u make it ??
@@abhinava4190 yes, there is a tutorial video I believe
@@abhinava4190 search UE4 emissive material, there will be a video with glowing Cube and Sphere :)
@@DesiBrit ohhh thanks man lemme check
For Unreal Engine 5.2 or above play with wind values :)
Awesome tutorial. I hope you make more Niagara tutorials!
You made it look so easy! Thank you!
Hi! Fantastic! I'll be honest I've spent the night trying to reproduce your 6 minutes work LOL And I got VERY close to your result. I applied your latest fixes. But I get nice curves and particles attempt to stick together on the final result, but still not as nice as your work. I believe there are a couple of parameters that you had already tweaked. Not sure, what. I'm sure it's a small thing. Could you describe what is your "initialize particles" settings and maybe also the "shape location". Anyhow THANK YOU, excellent tuto!!
I tried to search up something shiny for the explicit mat material and nothing came up ???
Anyone else having trouble while using "scale mesh size"?
Hi, yes, also had problems. Effect disappears if enabling the module. Solution: Change the MeshScaleMode Attribute in InitializeParticle Module from "Unset" to some other value, e.g. Uniform - this solved it for me.
@@cgfun9194 Thanks bro !
@@cgfun9194 Nice. thanks.
@@cgfun9194 omg ty
@@cgfun9194 can someone re write this comment in a more clear understand able way
Awesome just went through this a few times great work thanks.
Thank you for sharing this amazing tutorial
Gotta have a beefy computer to pull off this tutorial
Does anyone have a good video on how to render this my particle always come up missing during rendering I tried 60 fps and still not working, I know I’m missing something
Very cool! Can't wait to see more!
Thanks for the vid. Would be good to explain what things do and why you use them rather than speed along.
Stunning...just stunning!°
If you're following this video and do everything right(and still see a big flying mess like I did, despite the Drag) turn down the wind speed and wind speed scale to 10.0. That literally changed everything for me.
Hi! Great Tutorial, how did you get the background to look the way that it is? did you play with the skysphere?
Man, this is magnificent!
Ok, that was awesome man! Thank you!
i was losing my fucking mind cause i couldnt get the same result until i read the goddamn description, anyways, thanks a lot!
In UE5 (5.0.2) when I implement this tutorial, all I get is one big "tentacle" of particles. (yes, I used the fixes for the 4.26 version from the comments)
The tentacle itself rotates but it looks nothing like the finished result from this video.
Same for me in UE5.0.1
@@hallociao9981 I just discovered a possible fix: Scale it down to 0.2 (uniformly) when placed in the world. For some reason the result looks much closer to the tutorial than before
What worked for me was to increase the noise frequency at 3:40
So, I tried to repeat after the author, as you might have guessed I got a different result. BUT if you play with Curl noise 1,2 and Point Attraction, you get something similar...
Hi Sem, I have succeeded in making the same effect from your video, but there is one problem, my scene has a lot of light sources, and my question is - how did you manage to make Niagara follow this particular bulb of light? I don't know how to do that in my settings. Everything that you pointed out, I already did. (with some corrections because I work in UE 5, the latest version).
I'm new to UE and I can't even find the SomethingShiny mat from the list on 5.5 😅
Let's make it bounce and explode on the rythm of a good electro sound !
anyone else have the problem where the preview just keeps flashing like the cubes just keep disappearing and reappearing 20 times a second?
Thanks a lot man, great tutorial!
Does anyone know why the particles dont show up when trying to render it in the render queue? Its normal in the editor
Great tutorial, thanks!
Love this! Question: Where can I find the BP_Bulb?
This is so awesome. I didn't think it was that easy.
Is this expensive - performance wise?
Can you control and change the variables from an outside script on the go?
this is really helpful. thank you!
Awesome stuff!! I recreated this in an environment, however I couldn't get Sequencer to record the point light . I added all the elements to the Sequencer as well- very weird.
@Sem_Schreuder Hello!! I'm having problems with UE 4.27 (I'm running a potato with a Radeon 6670 1GB so that can be an issue), when I apply the Scale Vector from Curve, my meshes stop rendering 🙁 pls halp
I love you bro. My proyect is simple without effects like this
thanks! in scale mesh size I add initial mesh scale and later scale mesh size to work!! Thanks :D
Yo thanks dude. This will help a lot.
this is so fkn sick mate
You can always get away with lots of particles with a curl noise... they have no use at all, but they do be looking cool tho.
how to make Spaceship coming out of clouds like movie ? i saw this in some Demo's but couldt find any tutorial, thanks Sir
Hi! I'm using Unreal Engine 5.4 and I have a problem: the vortex, wind, point of attraction and curl noise don't seem to have the same effect of the video, I tried to set the values as you showed in the video but they result in a unique globe of particles. How could I fix this? Thank you!
Hi, I'm using iMac system when I select Mash Renderer Cube the software crashes immediately and I try over and over to have the same comsult. I don't know what happen and does anyone knows about this?