Just as a point to anyone looking to learn from this. When the fencer lunges, frequently his foot lands before he hits. This counts as missing (and therefore losing priority) then hitting again. From the coaches side, this is partly caused by standing too far away. The reason that the coach was able to make the pupil miss at 7:15 is because the pupil beats and commits to the attack too early. The pupil has spent the last minute practicing the rhythm because the coach allowed it.
That changed about 3 years ago, against my wishes I might add. Now it depends on what the defender was doing as the foot of the opponent landed. If you just goes for it as the opponents' foot lands, the touche is yours. But if you were searching for the blade as his foot came down, you are still called searching and the touche is his.
If the beats are truly simultaneous, there is no ROW. The moment the guy holding PIL makes a beat action, there is no more PIL and it becomes a regular beat (subject to current rules re where on the other blade contact is made, of course) The trick is for the ref to see who starts the beating action first...and I've had mutual beats called numerous times when trying to do a beat and go out of a PIL position.
Technically, no. I beat gains priority over an opponent who isn't attacking. So if Fencer A beats and immediately begins an attack, Fencer B's beat does not gain priority. However I rarely see it called that way. Most refs will simply call the 2nd beat a parry and be done with it.
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Just as a point to anyone looking to learn from this. When the fencer lunges, frequently his foot lands before he hits. This counts as missing (and therefore losing priority) then hitting again.
From the coaches side, this is partly caused by standing too far away.
The reason that the coach was able to make the pupil miss at 7:15 is because the pupil beats and commits to the attack too early. The pupil has spent the last minute practicing the rhythm because the coach allowed it.
That changed about 3 years ago, against my wishes I might add. Now it depends on what the defender was doing as the foot of the opponent landed. If you just goes for it as the opponents' foot lands, the touche is yours. But if you were searching for the blade as his foot came down, you are still called searching and the touche is his.
This must've been shot at Coach's College....I see Ed Richards in there as well. RIP, Ed.
Just wondering if beat gain back priority for the defender, or would the attacker gain a point if they end both hitting at the same time
If line is out and the defender makes contact in an attempt to parry it..the line is gone and the defender has ROW.
If ur talking about if the defender and the attacker both beat at the same time, the attacker will be the one who gains the priority
If the beats are truly simultaneous, there is no ROW. The moment the guy holding PIL makes a beat action, there is no more PIL and it becomes a regular beat (subject to current rules re where on the other blade contact is made, of course)
The trick is for the ref to see who starts the beating action first...and I've had mutual beats called numerous times when trying to do a beat and go out of a PIL position.
A beat doesn't gain priority. It simply starts a compound attack.
Technically, no. I beat gains priority over an opponent who isn't attacking. So if Fencer A beats and immediately begins an attack, Fencer B's beat does not gain priority. However I rarely see it called that way. Most refs will simply call the 2nd beat a parry and be done with it.