I'm so addicted. I first started out with the WL A959.Then the Dingo by Remo , and the Carisma 40S Audi. I've already upgraded the A959 to a full metal "jacket" and 540 motor with a bigger pinion. This is only after learning about this hobby 4 weeks ago!
A959 is a mini BEAST you can upgrade with near all metal everything. some 1/12 and 1/10 tires and rims are 8mm hex, bolt right on, or get some 12mm hubs for other rims. for insanity you can convert brushless with 4800-5200kv 2840 (mm) size motor (smaller than 540 but much more power), replacing all electronics (oh well)
Just going to add a 540 with a bigger pinion. It's already full metal except for the chassis and the linkage pull rods. I still have my other 2 rigs I want to make faster. I'm drowning in a sea of RC Drifting, Racing, Rock climbing and up grading!!! :0)
It's very late in the piece but Thank you for your Review... ! I bought this car because of people like yourself doing reviews. Awesome work mate! As a RC car guy from waaay back in the mid 80's with the Tamiya Hornet, Frog, Wild One and Fox... Plus 1/8th nitro buggies from 1988 to 2000. I only wanted a fun bash car for the yard or to take with me on trips... I have to say the 12428 is by far the most impressive out of the box RC car to date... I also run the Zop power Lipo's and the performance increase is epic!!! 50kph...!!!! This car is sooo much better with upgraded proper oil filled shocks... And it's definitely not waterproof.. a splash here or there.. no problems... but deep water... Noooo!! Again thank you for the review!!
for the high end toy class you'd be hard pressed to get better for the price, they're very good. they ARE geared a little too tall for the motor/ESC, kinda typical for WLtoys, they're fast until things go out, a little too fast. you CAN waterproof the stock receiver/ESC by sealing it up and putting a big heat sink on the tops of the MOSFET's (I'd recommend a heat sink anyway). IMHO the company would do well to do that, and give it 3-4 tooth smaller pinion gear so the motor and ESC don't have to work quite as hard trying to accelerate. it would accelerate quicker, still have the same top speed (higher motor RPM would make up for it), and longer run time for pulling a little less current everywhere. I've "been there done that" with decades of RC, racing too, so I understand the motor and gear ratio relationships pretty well. what I'd said above is for what I'm seeing and hearing watching many reviews of this one... and it IS very good, those minor mods (by the manufacturer!) could make it really great! some of their other toys are kinda infamous for LVC (low voltage circuit protection) kicking in, shutting power off to the motor after playing a little hard for a few minutes. the stock lithium ion batteries can't really handle high current drain, they warm up some, resistance goes up internally and the output voltage drops. I sure saw the bit stronger acceleration when you popped in the LiPo.
Yes, the acceleration is clearly better with a LiPo.I have dismantled the failed ESC today. The problem was, that everything is potted inside the bottom plastic "tub". Unfortunately I found some air bobbles inside, so there are places below the PCB, which are not covered with the potting compound. Even a day later I found water below the PCB, and this is what caused the problem. I guess, what happened was a "shoot through" in a pair of mosfets, because the water switched both of them on during the same time. BTW: the mosfets are CMP3803 N-channel types with a VDS of 30V and an ID of 150A (or 85A @ 100°C). This is a bit low for a 540 can size motor with a winding resistance of about 0.3Ohms. Conclusion: WLtoys could improve this thing with a heat sink and a better potting without air bobbles inside. But anyway, the car is still a recommendation, because it is so much fun to drive!
Hi TheDIYGuy999, I just discovered your TH-cam channel and I am totally impressed with your RC projects. I have the same ESC problem on my new A979-B. Unfortunately we drove too often through the water and it smoked like with you. Do you as an expert see a change to fix the ESC? Unfortunately, the A959-B-25 is not available from Banggood or will be available next week.
Thanks for the praise. Yesterday I had a look inside the destroyed ESC. There is no way to fix it, because (almost) everything is covered with compound and the PCB itself is damaged.
@@TheDIYGuy999 Thanks new to rc cars, going to get my kid one of these and was going to put oil in after seeing that, so I need to change shocks first.
You can use these for the rear suspension: www.banggood.com/2PCS-Metal-Oil-Filled-Rear-Shock-Absorber-For-Wltoys-12428-FY-03-Rc-Car-Parts-p-1290074.html?p=NZ29024828314201605E The front shocks don't really need oil, because there is a lot of friction and dampening in the suspension mechanism.
@@TheDIYGuy999 thanks again just checked eBay the front ones are £3.99 rear £9.99 they don't come filled which is why the guy on other video must have put oil in them
Mine did within an hour of getting it. Also broke the rear drive shaft. So much of this video being a torture test. Here's mine after soldering a new drive shaft in place. th-cam.com/video/cb2K_c5_MyQ/w-d-xo.html
After a 2 years of fixing and driving, about 30 rides in total, and yes i didn't read the manual, and yes it fried, so if i had blue smoke is the motor damaged too? I know esc got damage
The differentials on this truck are a weak point, especially if you make a habit of driving it this hard. Fortunately, metal gear upgrades are easily available online as of me typing this. Source: Wrecked both of mine in only a few months. Upgraded the rear, need to upgrade the front. That said, the thing is SO MUCH FUN.
Recently I bought a Wltoys 12428, and I am disappointed with it, because until now I have not been able to run it in a straight line, but it is hitting from one side of the road to the other. Can you guide me?
There are a lot of upgraded parts available: www.banggood.com/search/12428.html?p=NZ29024828314201605E I would suggest to replace the steering linkages. This allows to adjust the toe, so that the wheels are parallel to each other. You may also want to replace the electronics. This allows to use a standard 3 pin servo, or even a remote with stability control. Dumbo rc has a cheap one with integrated gyro sensor
Yes, I love it. Drifting on fine gravel has some addiction potential. But now the ESC is dead, cry! The good thing is, that most likely a brushless conversion video will follow...
Well, correct me if I'm wrong. But I ain't that a brushed motor? And if it is that was your first clue that it was, at best, slightly water resistant. I'm not a motor engineer, but I'm semi sure that because of the way brushed motors work, in order to work (unless you can seal the innards of the motor), make it almost impossible to "waterproof". In comparison with a brushless motor, which is by its construction & method of producing workable spin force, is inherently waterproof.
I think it's already too late to seal the ESC / receiver, because the moisture is between the plastic bottom cover and the PCB. You could try to carefully remove about 3mm on the bottom side. So you will have access to the bottom of the PCB and you will have a chance to properly dry it. Then you could cover the bottom side of the PCB with hot glue. Maybe you can rescue it that way.
I'm so addicted. I first started out with the WL A959.Then the Dingo by Remo , and the Carisma 40S Audi. I've already upgraded the A959 to a full metal "jacket" and 540 motor with a bigger pinion. This is only after learning about this hobby 4 weeks ago!
LOL. Yes, it's dangerous to get addicted with this stuff. At least you can find a discount coupon in the description. Have fun with the hobby!
A959 is a mini BEAST you can upgrade with near all metal everything. some 1/12 and 1/10 tires and rims are 8mm hex, bolt right on, or get some 12mm hubs for other rims. for insanity you can convert brushless with 4800-5200kv 2840 (mm) size motor (smaller than 540 but much more power), replacing all electronics (oh well)
Just going to add a 540 with a bigger pinion. It's already full metal except for the chassis and the linkage pull rods. I still have my other 2 rigs I want to make faster. I'm drowning in a sea of RC Drifting, Racing, Rock climbing and up grading!!! :0)
something same here :D i bought a 959B first, now waiting for spare upgraded parts ^^ till dat i get the 1248 :Dcool in snow
It's very late in the piece but Thank you for your Review... !
I bought this car because of people like yourself doing reviews. Awesome work mate!
As a RC car guy from waaay back in the mid 80's with the Tamiya Hornet, Frog, Wild One and Fox... Plus 1/8th nitro buggies from 1988 to 2000.
I only wanted a fun bash car for the yard or to take with me on trips...
I have to say the 12428 is by far the most impressive out of the box RC car to date... I also run the Zop power Lipo's and the performance increase is epic!!! 50kph...!!!!
This car is sooo much better with upgraded proper oil filled shocks... And it's definitely not waterproof.. a splash here or there.. no problems... but deep water... Noooo!!
Again thank you for the review!!
You're welcome. And BTW, the box says it's waterproof while the manual says it's not. Typical for Chinese products. So I had to test it...
Nice review. Looks like it's worth the money. You can easily waterproof it before running in wet conditions.
Thanks. Yes, you can, but the packaging says it is waterproof.
@@TheDIYGuy999 Chinese manufacturers say a lot of things.. 😅
Is this one more durable and stable build for kids and beginners than the wltoys 124019 or 144001?
Hi guys. Magic blue smoke will escape during this test. But this thing is still a winner! An yes, the manual says, that it is not waterproof...
for the high end toy class you'd be hard pressed to get better for the price, they're very good. they ARE geared a little too tall for the motor/ESC, kinda typical for WLtoys, they're fast until things go out, a little too fast. you CAN waterproof the stock receiver/ESC by sealing it up and putting a big heat sink on the tops of the MOSFET's (I'd recommend a heat sink anyway). IMHO the company would do well to do that, and give it 3-4 tooth smaller pinion gear so the motor and ESC don't have to work quite as hard trying to accelerate. it would accelerate quicker, still have the same top speed (higher motor RPM would make up for it), and longer run time for pulling a little less current everywhere.
I've "been there done that" with decades of RC, racing too, so I understand the motor and gear ratio relationships pretty well. what I'd said above is for what I'm seeing and hearing watching many reviews of this one... and it IS very good, those minor mods (by the manufacturer!) could make it really great!
some of their other toys are kinda infamous for LVC (low voltage circuit protection) kicking in, shutting power off to the motor after playing a little hard for a few minutes. the stock lithium ion batteries can't really handle high current drain, they warm up some, resistance goes up internally and the output voltage drops. I sure saw the bit stronger acceleration when you popped in the LiPo.
Yes, the acceleration is clearly better with a LiPo.I have dismantled the failed ESC today. The problem was, that everything is potted inside the bottom plastic "tub". Unfortunately I found some air bobbles inside, so there are places below the PCB, which are not covered with the potting compound. Even a day later I found water below the PCB, and this is what caused the problem. I guess, what happened was a "shoot through" in a pair of mosfets, because the water switched both of them on during the same time. BTW: the mosfets are CMP3803 N-channel types with a VDS of 30V and an ID of 150A (or 85A @ 100°C). This is a bit low for a 540 can size motor with a winding resistance of about 0.3Ohms. Conclusion: WLtoys could improve this thing with a heat sink and a better potting without air bobbles inside. But anyway, the car is still a recommendation, because it is so much fun to drive!
Hi TheDIYGuy999, I just discovered your TH-cam channel and I am totally impressed with your RC projects. I have the same ESC problem on my new A979-B. Unfortunately we drove too often through the water and it smoked like with you. Do you as an expert see a change to fix the ESC? Unfortunately, the A959-B-25 is not available from Banggood or will be available next week.
Thanks for the praise. Yesterday I had a look inside the destroyed ESC. There is no way to fix it, because (almost) everything is covered with compound and the PCB itself is damaged.
Yep, somethings definatly wrong... *keeps driving in the water*
The ESC was already toast at this time. So why not? And BTW: I have repaired this thing and it's still going strong
@@TheDIYGuy999 its not waterproof
Great vid a guy on another vid showed how to vastly improve this car by just putting some oil in the shocks when you get it
The stock shocks don't hold the oil, because they don't have o-ring seals. But you can use upgraded shocks.
@@TheDIYGuy999 Thanks new to rc cars, going to get my kid one of these and was going to put oil in after seeing that, so I need to change shocks first.
You can use these for the rear suspension: www.banggood.com/2PCS-Metal-Oil-Filled-Rear-Shock-Absorber-For-Wltoys-12428-FY-03-Rc-Car-Parts-p-1290074.html?p=NZ29024828314201605E
The front shocks don't really need oil, because there is a lot of friction and dampening in the suspension mechanism.
@@TheDIYGuy999 thanks again just checked eBay the front ones are £3.99 rear £9.99 they don't come filled which is why the guy on other video must have put oil in them
Have you had issues with the diff gears? I heard it grinds out for this model?
No, no issues so far.
Mine did within an hour of getting it. Also broke the rear drive shaft. So much of this video being a torture test. Here's mine after soldering a new drive shaft in place. th-cam.com/video/cb2K_c5_MyQ/w-d-xo.html
Hey what’s the run time with that lipo you used?
About 10 to 15 min
@@TheDIYGuy999 oh shit you replied. Thanks man. God bless you.
After a 2 years of fixing and driving, about 30 rides in total, and yes i didn't read the manual, and yes it fried, so if i had blue smoke is the motor damaged too? I know esc got damage
The motor should still be OK
i got my 124019 wet so many times until it stopped working. After drying it with dryer its back alive... I even drowned it once and it still works...
9:14 is when there is the water test
The differentials on this truck are a weak point, especially if you make a habit of driving it this hard.
Fortunately, metal gear upgrades are easily available online as of me typing this.
Source: Wrecked both of mine in only a few months. Upgraded the rear, need to upgrade the front.
That said, the thing is SO MUCH FUN.
Same here. Both diffs broke in the meantime. The front is already replaced with a metal diff.
Recently I bought a Wltoys 12428, and I am disappointed with it, because until now I have not been able to run it in a straight line, but it is hitting from one side of the road to the other. Can you guide me?
There are a lot of upgraded parts available: www.banggood.com/search/12428.html?p=NZ29024828314201605E
I would suggest to replace the steering linkages. This allows to adjust the toe, so that the wheels are parallel to each other. You may also want to replace the electronics. This allows to use a standard 3 pin servo, or even a remote with stability control. Dumbo rc has a cheap one with integrated gyro sensor
man that car is almost flying really nice and it can handle a beating
Yes, I love it. Drifting on fine gravel has some addiction potential. But now the ESC is dead, cry! The good thing is, that most likely a brushless conversion video will follow...
ok...I did it. I pulled the trigger today. WLtoys 12428 Rock Climber going in the arsenal.
👍. You will love it!
Yeah,that's the problem, I love them all, too much!!!
The arms are kinda to tough I flipped it off 4stairs and the arm ended up bending and keeps skidding my driveshaft
I just got this truck and mine says it is water proof. Upgraded?
The packaging says it is, while the manual says it's not
Great video no music but the audio when you’re talking is horrible it’s hard to understand you
steve leahy i agree and english subtitles are trash
A for AWESOME why are they trash
I know, I need a better mic
Why lights were on and off
Hey man does this car have speed control? Or is it just damn fast?
Yes, it has proportional throttle and steering
Is the stock diff is good or i will upgrafe to metal?
The y will fail sooner or later
Tnx sir..
It got toasted cuz de 1:12 has a smaller motor as the 1:10
I have this car and reverse wont work, would you have any idea why? Could it be the esc?
Yes, I think the transistors, which are used for the reverse may be blown
Will a 3s lipo work on this? Or is it too much?
No, it will destroy the ESC
Does this have proportional steering and speed controls?
Yes. Otherwise it would be impossible to do drifts like this
Thanks!!!!!!!
Well, correct me if I'm wrong. But I ain't that a brushed motor? And if it is that was your first clue that it was, at best, slightly water resistant. I'm not a motor engineer, but I'm semi sure that because of the way brushed motors work, in order to work (unless you can seal the innards of the motor), make it almost impossible to "waterproof". In comparison with a brushless motor, which is by its construction & method of producing workable spin force, is inherently waterproof.
What go fast?
Cool, we also show it on our channel
Awesome video, I actually just bought this truck and is awesome!
Thanks. Yes, it‘s a realy great car. Can‘t wait to have it up and running again
Anyone could email me the manual? Need to order parts and I lost it
How long does it last on one battery, at average speed driving?
It depends on how much full throttle you apply. Between 10 and 30 minutes I think.
mine doesn't go that fast
lol you already now your going to smoke the ESC before you even started the test lol
No, I didn't know, because I saw it is potted. So I thought, why not just ignore the hint in the manual and find out, if it is potted properly?
hmmm when they say waterproof it's splash proof even if you buy a more exspansive fully waterproof ESC they still leak and are not 100% watertight
You may be right, but we are on TheDIYGuy999 channel here. So we always need some stuff to repair / improve 😉
Why not to seal the box so the water won't get inside
So can it handle water splash and mudding?
Nice vid! i received my 12428 too :) tested it in snow ^^ after 2nd battery its servo has stucked, so i try to dry out now, piked for pieces :)
Thanks. Hmm, I never had a servo with water damage so far. Just bad luck. Hope, it will work after it is dry again.
Yes its worked for a while than servo stucked again to the left :D its really dont like snow ^^try to seal the esc than start overagain :D
I think it's already too late to seal the ESC / receiver, because the moisture is between the plastic bottom cover and the PCB. You could try to carefully remove about 3mm on the bottom side. So you will have access to the bottom of the PCB and you will have a chance to properly dry it. Then you could cover the bottom side of the PCB with hot glue. Maybe you can rescue it that way.
70kmh??
I never measured. I would guess about 40
How is been for you lately?
Cool video... loved the tumbles in the sand pit. Hmmm yeah not waterproof... maybe splashproof. it's a fun RC i hope you get it fixed soon :-)
Thanks. The new esc arrived in the meantime. I will fix it soon
Do u speak English?
I think he is asian
No, you're completely wrong. I'm from Switzerland ;-)
Do you have ears? I understand him very well
This is stock?
Yes
I can’t understand you at all
Got mine wet and it fried the battery
The battery? Strange! But the manual clearly says. Don't use it in water.
TheDIYGuy999 actually the esc. The battery might be fine. I'll have to test it out on the new receiver.
this car have one big problem shit diferencial and servo :(
Yes, they are not the best, but you can buy metal upgrades
TheDIYGuy999 where? Do you have a link?
same problem too
U are the best 😂🤘 greets from #OliFPV 🍀
Thanks. In this video, I always watched out for ninja trees, but suddenly it was too late ;-)
TheDIYGuy999 😂😂😂😂 i see there is no escape 🍀