Justin Wong and ChrisG, always the finalist at almost every majors. Every time i watch a Grand Final match, ChrisG and Justin Wong's names are there for most of the time.
(Soul Fist->Flight Cancel->Soul Fist->Flight Cancel) you can repeat again after you hit the ground. People say Morrigan is cheap because of that but shooting off those projectiles actually take skill as doing those moves in a quick session requires alot of movement.
That's not where the skill lies. That's just muscle memory. The skill is being able to properly predict you opponents movements and apply those fireballs properly, zone effectively, and knowing when to rushdown. That's the skill part.
I like how every video I see of Justin, he has more or less a brand new team. Yet every ChrisG video... Oh. Morrigan and Doom straight out. We haven't seen that since 2 hours ago...
All very true. Chris g has expanded upon his strategy adding rush down tactics making it very hard to beat him. Only a few highly skilled players can compete with him (i.e. Combofiend, J wong, Filipino Champ etc). I was only pointing out in your post where you say he hardly manges to win. He has a handful of majors under his belt and a few runner up. I was only stating that he places very high in majors if not win which is very difficult to do.
Doesn't change the fact that it was okay for him to admit defeat. I don't see the problem. He didn't jerk out his stick and get mad. He was disappointed, but he showed respect to Justin.
Well one thing I'm happy about is Chris G using her in tournament play because in MVC3 she was never in tournament play there may have been one or 2 but not frequently OR winning.
I totally understand the feeling, and have been there myself, but you have to show your respect to the other player who kept their nerves intact and came up with the win because of your mistake. Play until the KO.
All you can get from watching streams and videos is an impression of players, not too much who they really are. The fact he seems salty has more to do with the fact that he is an ambitious player who wants to win. Some people don't take losses as well as others. There's nothing wrong about that. At least he doesn't seem to be popping off and disrespecting people after winning. Maybe he's a really nice guy if you get to know him better. It's difficult to judge someone's attitude just from videos.
"Just like that - Justin takes it!" Wow, I was thinking Justin was coming from losers finals because the video was so long. Then, I see Justin get up and he won the whole thing because he was actually coming from winners finals. lol Good job J!
To be fair, he only had 14 seconds left with no assist, no x-factor and only Morrigan. Morrigan is, as you know, not an offensive character and Chris G mainly uses him for chip.
I didn't make the OP, I'm just throwing out my two cents. I think ChrisG's an amazing player, but I'm glad to see his Morrigan gimmick coming to an end. I can appreciate zoning, I just can't respect a player who's better than that resorting to it as the grand strategy. From the rise of Vergil and his difficulties over the past events (of which there were numerous), it's clear that his current strategy just won't cut it for Evo. Especially not if Justin Wong can best him with a lame Frank West.
When during an ill-timed assist call you and your assist gets picked up and juggled and the assist has no way to escape as long as the combo isn't dropped. MarlinPie prefers to call it the two-for-one special
Does anyone here not notice that when Chris G quit there was only 12 seconds left on the clock? Even if Justin let go of the controller there's no way he would have enough time to win.
Justin went from getting blown up with a new team at ECT to taking it out over ChrisG with what I believe most would consider a beyond questionable team. ChrisG's strategy is beyond explored and people have working counters in place for them. Doesn't really matter where he's seeded, he's going to have to pull out something new at Evo, because I doubt his air throws are going to carry him so far.
Why didn't ChrisG activited Devil Trigger + Spiral Swords at the end of the last match? Could have made a comeback like this, since he would recover health and also go for mixups D: Also, shouldn't have done that, giving up a match isn't gonna get you anywhere.
You can argue that in a major, you should play till the timer says 00, but Morrigan without X-Factor against 1 full HP and 2 1/2 HP characters with only 13 Marvel seconds left wasn't gonna come back. Two characters dying would take 1-2 Marvel seconds, not including the time it takes to do the combo + the time it takes for supers to finish. Plus, Justin could have just back jumped for 13 seconds and Chris G still would have lost.
for those saying that it was OK for chris G to ragequit and be salty, please look at match #3 where justin basically was on the same position but with a much weaker character Frank and it was so obvious he wasnt gonna make a comeback on ChrisG but did he give up and just stopped moving?.....nope
JWong has won events using Spider-Man and Iron Fist. Think about that while you lol it up with your Zero/Dante/Vergil ezmode team. He picked up this team and in less than a month was winning events with it. Haters gonna hate.
It wasn't a tag to save his character. He was hoping the Doom super would hit his doom mid air so he can get a tech away. He did it too early and it turned into a free combo.
Didn't I JUST SAY that his resume was more impressive than his skill level? Like, literally in the comment you replied to? Jesus. ChrisG is a good player, but there are at least 7 or 8 players that are flat-out better than he is. I don't give a shit what place he got at EVO. Viscant won last year, and I don't think he's won a match since then, much less an event.
13 seconds wouldn't have been enough to even drain the remaining characters health if JWong just stopped playing. There was no way Chris could have won that, there just wasn't enough time.
Justin should have used this team at Evo, I feel like its much stronger than his Wolv/Storm/Akuma team. Not to mention It seems to play much better against Chris G's team.
jwong had 56 secs with Frank w. 4 meters. compared to 35 seconds with morrigan 3 meters. Similiar but that 20 seconds makes a big difference when fighting against vergil's long combos. not to mention chris g's xfactor burned out during the vergil combo. Chris G's gameplan with morrigan is chip damage. Morrigian's chip damage couldnt have killed 3 chars with no xfactor. its not a ragequit cause he didnt get up and leave he just decided to stop and start thinking of what to do in the next game
I'll assume "Playtomorrow" means either he'll play you "tomorrow", or give you a rematch "tomorrow". Honestly, I've played against both types in the types of games I play. Ragequitting was always horrible because I couldn't test teams, but I have one particular person who will only ever play me once with extremely cheap tactics and then won't rematch me for a while, but tell everyone how badly he beat me. Honestly, they're both bad. Which is worse depends on who you are.
Well if you think about it, if you only have Morrigan left who is a low damage, very technical character against a whole 3 person team, and the person using that team knows how to lock while the timer is at under 20 seconds, there's pretty much no hope. Justin would have just run away and Chris couldn't have done anything about it.
@blee5252 Yipes has a sick vergil but to consider him the best, u gotta consider the japanese marvel players too like Potengel, Kubo and Chou they too have very sick vergils
All the UMVC3 matches have the same recurring characters, someone chooses Dr Doom, the other Vergil, maybe also Morrigan, in this case all of them and then some.
1st off, DO YOUR RESEARCH. Viscant, though he didnt place that high this year at Evo, has still been making ripples in the community by placing in top 4 or 8 in a few majors. 2nd, you should care what place he got at evo. Its only the biggest fighting game tournament in the world. ChirsG is 1 of the smartest players in the community. He constantly places high in tourneys and came extremely close to beating F Champ with the possibility of taking it all. So sit back, learn a bit, and stay salty
He was much more better then this back in 2011 vanilla marvel 3, he knew how to take a lose and I think he even gave a handshake to a few people. He was one of my favorite players, but now i'd place him in like 8 or 9...
Justin doesnt give up even if he is 1 against 3 full health characters...compared to NYChrisG which his high sodium levels doesnt allow him to continue once is 1 against 3.
ChrisG's resume is a lot more impressive than his actual skill level, unfortunately for him. There's no way he should have been seeded #1 overall for EVO. He's barely top 10 in my book.
Morrigans most damaging no lvl 3 no assist no X-factor combo does about 680k and thats if you hit all 6 soulfists, both shadow blade cancels and get max mashable damage from the missile hyper and get the DP super OTG or where in Shadow illusion mode., that comeback was not happening.
Why do they even let ChrisG compete anymore? He just gets salty and ragequits. I'd be embarrassed to be sharing feed time with him. It'd be understandable if he was a kid but he's a grown ass man. Does he throw a fit every time he pays rent?
Yeah James Chen, it's a TOTAL SHOCKER that the best player in the world won the event. I AM IN SHOCK. NO REALLY. ChrisG is scrubbing it up as usual. No surprises.
Justin Wong and ChrisG, always the finalist at almost every majors. Every time i watch a Grand Final match, ChrisG and Justin Wong's names are there for most of the time.
chrisg just won second place at a national tournament. what did you do that weekend?
WTM! Isn't this deja vu? Weren't these two in the grand final before with the same result?
He's won 3 majors this year and placed second in a couple more. He is currently ranked 1 in UMvC3 evo seeding points. Look it up.
how many times was spiral swords activated here?
where is the ChrisG vs. Flocker match?
(Soul Fist->Flight Cancel->Soul Fist->Flight Cancel) you can repeat again after you hit the ground. People say Morrigan is cheap because of that but shooting off those projectiles actually take skill as doing those moves in a quick session requires alot of movement.
What's worse, ragequit CHRISG or Playtomorrow CJ?
Is this the last event b4 leading into evo?
What happened to Justin's epic Storm team? :(
I knew the video was 23 minutes long so the whole time I was thinking to myself "I can't wait to see how he makes this comeback!" Whomp...
That's not where the skill lies. That's just muscle memory. The skill is being able to properly predict you opponents movements and apply those fireballs properly, zone effectively, and knowing when to rushdown. That's the skill part.
I like how every video I see of Justin, he has more or less a brand new team. Yet every ChrisG video...
Oh. Morrigan and Doom straight out. We haven't seen that since 2 hours ago...
Wow. I'm surprised Justin even won this with the amount of drops he made. I wonder how insane he will be when he perfects his team.
Have you seen Yipe's Vergil?
Goodness gracious. is this on simple mode?
Molletoso's teacher : congratulations, your tesis has been approved.
Yipes: Ohhhhhhhhahhhhhhh that tesis got wasted!!!
Midwest Championships was the last Road to Evo tourney. But if by event you mean "tournament that actually mattered," then yes, this was the last one.
All very true. Chris g has expanded upon his strategy adding rush down tactics making it very hard to beat him. Only a few highly skilled players can compete with him (i.e. Combofiend, J wong, Filipino Champ etc). I was only pointing out in your post where you say he hardly manges to win. He has a handful of majors under his belt and a few runner up. I was only stating that he places very high in majors if not win which is very difficult to do.
wats with the john cena music in the beginning
Doesn't change the fact that it was okay for him to admit defeat. I don't see the problem. He didn't jerk out his stick and get mad. He was disappointed, but he showed respect to Justin.
It's where you catch your opponent's main character and one of their assists in a super move
Well one thing I'm happy about is Chris G using her in tournament play because in MVC3 she was never in tournament play there may have been one or 2 but not frequently OR winning.
Wtf Cena music in the background in the beginning!?!?
I remember that mike Ross said that Justin would be the best if he used top tier characters in marvel. Well here he is
Justin didn't gave up with Frank West on the third match, and he was on the same position Chris was in that match.
I totally understand the feeling, and have been there myself, but you have to show your respect to the other player who kept their nerves intact and came up with the win because of your mistake. Play until the KO.
All you can get from watching streams and videos is an impression of players, not too much who they really are. The fact he seems salty has more to do with the fact that he is an ambitious player who wants to win. Some people don't take losses as well as others. There's nothing wrong about that. At least he doesn't seem to be popping off and disrespecting people after winning. Maybe he's a really nice guy if you get to know him better. It's difficult to judge someone's attitude just from videos.
Steve walls hahah have you looked at your picture??
"Just like that - Justin takes it!" Wow, I was thinking Justin was coming from losers finals because the video was so long. Then, I see Justin get up and he won the whole thing because he was actually coming from winners finals. lol Good job J!
Whether ChrisG uses his Morrigan team or not, his attitude sure doesn't seem to change.
WHO IS THAT IN THE BLUE DRESS?!?!? :)
Molletoso's mom: You want toast for breakfast?
Molletoso:Sure mom
Yipes: What An Answer!
Why did Wong never use this team again? Haha crazy he has a funny Vergil, basic sword loop ftw haha.
To be fair, he only had 14 seconds left with no assist, no x-factor and only Morrigan. Morrigan is, as you know, not an offensive character and Chris G mainly uses him for chip.
I didn't make the OP, I'm just throwing out my two cents. I think ChrisG's an amazing player, but I'm glad to see his Morrigan gimmick coming to an end. I can appreciate zoning, I just can't respect a player who's better than that resorting to it as the grand strategy. From the rise of Vergil and his difficulties over the past events (of which there were numerous), it's clear that his current strategy just won't cut it for Evo. Especially not if Justin Wong can best him with a lame Frank West.
When during an ill-timed assist call you and your assist gets picked up and juggled and the assist has no way to escape as long as the combo isn't dropped. MarlinPie prefers to call it the two-for-one special
Does anyone here not notice that when Chris G quit there was only 12 seconds left on the clock? Even if Justin let go of the controller there's no way he would have enough time to win.
I've heard some rumors that chrisG's has something new with morrigan he's saving for EVO.
Justin went from getting blown up with a new team at ECT to taking it out over ChrisG with what I believe most would consider a beyond questionable team. ChrisG's strategy is beyond explored and people have working counters in place for them. Doesn't really matter where he's seeded, he's going to have to pull out something new at Evo, because I doubt his air throws are going to carry him so far.
In the first battle. I've always wondered how to do the multiple Soul-fist attacks with Morrigan. >:)
Why didn't ChrisG activited Devil Trigger + Spiral Swords at the end of the last match? Could have made a comeback like this, since he would recover health and also go for mixups D:
Also, shouldn't have done that, giving up a match isn't gonna get you anywhere.
Chris has a better Morrigan for one reason; he has the ability to shift from Zoning to Rushdown on the fly, and is great at both of them.
You can argue that in a major, you should play till the timer says 00, but Morrigan without X-Factor against 1 full HP and 2 1/2 HP characters with only 13 Marvel seconds left wasn't gonna come back. Two characters dying would take 1-2 Marvel seconds, not including the time it takes to do the combo + the time it takes for supers to finish. Plus, Justin could have just back jumped for 13 seconds and Chris G still would have lost.
Damn everybody knows how to use vergil now. whats the point?
for those saying that it was OK for chris G to ragequit and be salty, please look at match #3 where justin basically was on the same position but with a much weaker character Frank and it was so obvious he wasnt gonna make a comeback on ChrisG but did he give up and just stopped moving?.....nope
justin was like damn im tired of workin with low tiers lets pick some top tiers and kick some ass!! and win CEO
You are nuts if you think Justin's Vergil is better than Yipes, PZ Mihe, Flocker and a couple of other ppl
That's not the Wong Factor, Justin Wong is just a genius.
Me neither, the shopping cart assist is so damn good
JWong has won events using Spider-Man and Iron Fist. Think about that while you lol it up with your Zero/Dante/Vergil ezmode team. He picked up this team and in less than a month was winning events with it. Haters gonna hate.
isn't IFC Yipes best Vergil?
It wasn't a tag to save his character. He was hoping the Doom super would hit his doom mid air so he can get a tech away. He did it too early and it turned into a free combo.
wait i dont get it...
Didn't I JUST SAY that his resume was more impressive than his skill level? Like, literally in the comment you replied to? Jesus.
ChrisG is a good player, but there are at least 7 or 8 players that are flat-out better than he is. I don't give a shit what place he got at EVO. Viscant won last year, and I don't think he's won a match since then, much less an event.
2 weeks using that team=wins major Ladies and gentleman,The WONG FACTOR!!!
13 seconds wouldn't have been enough to even drain the remaining characters health if JWong just stopped playing. There was no way Chris could have won that, there just wasn't enough time.
Was waiting for this :3 also 0:35
actually the first soul fist would be medium if you wanted it to go forward
I think part of it was rethinking a strategy or something. He looked like he was thinking of something when he gave up.
Justin should have used this team at Evo, I feel like its much stronger than his Wolv/Storm/Akuma team. Not to mention It seems to play much better against Chris G's team.
jwong had 56 secs with Frank w. 4 meters. compared to 35 seconds with morrigan 3 meters. Similiar but that 20 seconds makes a big difference when fighting against vergil's long combos. not to mention chris g's xfactor burned out during the vergil combo. Chris G's gameplan with morrigan is chip damage. Morrigian's chip damage couldnt have killed 3 chars with no xfactor. its not a ragequit cause he didnt get up and leave he just decided to stop and start thinking of what to do in the next game
I'll assume "Playtomorrow" means either he'll play you "tomorrow", or give you a rematch "tomorrow".
Honestly, I've played against both types in the types of games I play. Ragequitting was always horrible because I couldn't test teams, but I have one particular person who will only ever play me once with extremely cheap tactics and then won't rematch me for a while, but tell everyone how badly he beat me.
Honestly, they're both bad. Which is worse depends on who you are.
Well if you think about it, if you only have Morrigan left who is a low damage, very technical character against a whole 3 person team, and the person using that team knows how to lock while the timer is at under 20 seconds, there's pretty much no hope. Justin would have just run away and Chris couldn't have done anything about it.
Chris... Y U SO SALTY?
@blee5252 Yipes has a sick vergil but to consider him the best, u gotta consider the japanese marvel players too like Potengel, Kubo and Chou they too have very sick vergils
Best of the west vs. the beast of the east....great grand final!
I'm dying to see more unique teams. we need some diversity. Like Punish's team. crazy Doc. Strange.
What's a happy brithday in a fighting game?
yea it does! It goes from robot 1 to robot 2 with ice cream sandwich 4.0
All the UMVC3 matches have the same recurring characters, someone chooses Dr Doom, the other Vergil, maybe also Morrigan, in this case all of them and then some.
That was Justin's Entrance Theme.
1st off, DO YOUR RESEARCH. Viscant, though he didnt place that high this year at Evo, has still been making ripples in the community by placing in top 4 or 8 in a few majors. 2nd, you should care what place he got at evo. Its only the biggest fighting game tournament in the world. ChirsG is 1 of the smartest players in the community. He constantly places high in tourneys and came extremely close to beating F Champ with the possibility of taking it all. So sit back, learn a bit, and stay salty
He was much more better then this back in 2011 vanilla marvel 3, he knew how to take a lose and I think he even gave a handshake to a few people. He was one of my favorite players, but now i'd place him in like 8 or 9...
LOL @ the very beginning you can hear John Cenas theme song being played.
Justin doesnt give up even if he is 1 against 3 full health characters...compared to NYChrisG which his high sodium levels doesnt allow him to continue once is 1 against 3.
people are complaining about the new TAC infinites, I'd rather see that than morrigan spammin' soul fists
TAC infinte? That would be awesome! Hope he changes his Doom, Akuma is fine.
Yipes: But is he gonna finish his plate!?
ChrisG's resume is a lot more impressive than his actual skill level, unfortunately for him.
There's no way he should have been seeded #1 overall for EVO. He's barely top 10 in my book.
11:30 - Gotta finish on that Anchor Chris, not your chipper.
that's when the match starts
lol i just noticed they were playing john cena in the very beginning of the video.... hahaha
i get bored of rushdown at this point in umvc3, i'd rather see chris actually do something that no one can replicate.
Morrigans most damaging no lvl 3 no assist no X-factor combo does about 680k and thats if you hit all 6 soulfists, both shadow blade cancels and get max mashable damage from the missile hyper and get the DP super OTG or where in Shadow illusion mode., that comeback was not happening.
Why do they even let ChrisG compete anymore? He just gets salty and ragequits. I'd be embarrassed to be sharing feed time with him. It'd be understandable if he was a kid but he's a grown ass man. Does he throw a fit every time he pays rent?
I agree with you, Yipes Vergil is sick!
There was 13 seconds left, no X-Factor
Yes! Every loss Chris G. takes is proof against Morrigan.
15 seconds to kill 3 characters without x-factor? I don't think it was a "I quit" it was more it was impossible.
doesn't matter if its okay or not. He can do it if it wants..
Yipes: He's got that bread n butter.
Probably the TAC Infinite ....
But its just stylish and its not THAT useful cause you give your opponent to much meter ...
Yeah James Chen, it's a TOTAL SHOCKER that the best player in the world won the event. I AM IN SHOCK. NO REALLY.
ChrisG is scrubbing it up as usual. No surprises.
Chris g is a good player regardless of what team he uses -_- he took fchamp out during vxg w ryu wesker hawkeye...
hmm idk, even hittin 2 characters, w/o xfactor u would take 10s for the combo and animations to kill those 2.. the 3rd would b alive
John Cena music in the beginning?!
They spend many a year playing together
what up spooky this is guys
3:13 "Zombies for dayz."
Lol