Unironicly seconded, Dathan. You had to deduce who's sus and target them before evils get maj. Unlike BG the 100% actual sarcastic high skill role. Target someone random...wait till pros, mayor, 100% confirmed TP, Dep, or failing any of that a TI Day2, go on them every night.
@@lucker1996 It's the use of "somehow" that was the giveaway that he was cov. He was the poisoner, so him getting poisoned confused him. "I got poisoned somehow." instead of just "I'm poisoned." because how would the poisoner be poisoned? That's why it was a dead giveaway.
@@ThePhenomenalEX Tbh regardless of role, I would say the same thing on day 3 when on day 2 someone else claimed poisoned, knowing that poisoning occurs only once per game.
@@eugeneimnotgonnatellyoumyl5513 I think the reason for the change is so that people understand it works differently now, and I think it fits dreamweaver a bit better naming wise since insomnia is related to sleep and dreamweaver prevents you from sleeping
4:50 what happened is the necro was passed to another coven. Trickster just forces the attacker to visit their target as well. Since poisoner lost the necro it wasnt an attack.
With being attacked twice in one night, the mirror should absorb the first one, then shatter from the second attack, spending the absorbed attack to save you. If the two attacks are of equal strength
As a ToS watcher/non-player, I just want to say that this update allows more shenanigans to happen and that is always is both fun to see and just a plain win for the players as seen in this vid!
In the second game, I'm guessing what happened is that the witch attacked the arso, which is why there were no coven kills N1. That's also why the arso knew who the witch was, and outted them. That might also be why they just outright claimed arsonist - they figured if they claimed 4 was sus, they'd just claim that 1 was immune and they'd get hung anyway.
The issue is achieves aren't added with old ones removed, they are replaced. If you already got "that achieve", you can't get the new one. So killing someone with their own attack might be a thing.
Wouldn't executing 11 in the dep game be the less risky play though, because if 2 the sc did transform they would lose if 11 was cov, and if 2 wasn't sc they lose if 11 is not town. Whereas executing just makes it so they can just vote 2 and be done with it, and they hanged 11 anyway.
11:00 - 11:10 I agree with you pipe! Also, at 25:30 - 25:32 Jailor Can't Rejail 11, so in that scenario, you vote up 11 then Jailor exes The SC because you don't know if 11 is another killing role!
27:00 if 11 was poisoner and SC transformed that day. You would have lost. Coven don't have to vote with town. Exing 11 that night would have been safer
I think you could've won if the tables were flipped if you were knighted and the monarch had been killed instead, and you hadn't absorbed any attack. Because then you could've voted out one of them and hopefully barrier yourself and vote the other out the next day.
I remember one time I was executioner I claimed trapper and said my target had illu visit them. My target was coven and did the exact same thing 7 did in the first match so I wasn't able to win that game because they knew I was exe and just lynched me :(
You know it would be kinda funny if they mixed a bit of auditor into the trickster. What if when they absorbed the attack the attacker lost the ability to attack until it was unleashed?
Quick question, can you hold onto the attack as long as you want as trickster? Because if that's the case then couldnt the trickster absorb CK attack and just hold onto It for as long as possible so coven just isnt able to attack anymore?.
Ooouu, like a TP-TK mix? (Edit: Lol, wrote it right after the role explanation, unpause and that's like, the next sentence. Welp.) Kind of like trapper, but with more attack freedom ... including more mess-up potential! I like it :D
I guess Wildling, Dreamweaver, Enchanter can use their base abilities as well WITH attack and if attack is absorbed then it will be just their normal visit as if they don't have book
Gotta get out of the habit of thinking of other Deps when you rolled it, Pipe. He couldn't have been dep, you said it yourself at the start of the vid.
nah. trickster should only get killed if more then one person attacked you. any more then that would be OP and hard to defend if people think you are SK.
Don't party N1 and go on TP or TI claims, someone likely to be attacked since you act like LO and Tav Edit: cause I have accidentally messed up Seer results N1 before
Trickster is an actual high skill role now. Incredible
Wdym it was always a high skill role
The best role rework is changing a role memed as being high skill into a role that’s actually high skill
Unironicly seconded, Dathan. You had to deduce who's sus and target them before evils get maj. Unlike BG the 100% actual sarcastic high skill role. Target someone random...wait till pros, mayor, 100% confirmed TP, Dep, or failing any of that a TI Day2, go on them every night.
When 3 said, "I got poisoned somehow." in that first game, it should have been a dead giveaway that he was cov.
"Somehow Poisoner returned"
Or 3 saw 14 claiming poisoned who turned out to be a Town member, which could be said as any role at this point.
@@lucker1996 It's the use of "somehow" that was the giveaway that he was cov. He was the poisoner, so him getting poisoned confused him. "I got poisoned somehow." instead of just "I'm poisoned." because how would the poisoner be poisoned? That's why it was a dead giveaway.
@@ThePhenomenalEX Tbh regardless of role, I would say the same thing on day 3 when on day 2 someone else claimed poisoned, knowing that poisoning occurs only once per game.
Fun fact: absorbing a rampage attack blocks the rampage
That seems OP
if u release the rampage will it also rampage?
@@Ramosious yes
@@ZaTrapu
Sounds unlikely, but a lot of fun if you can get away with it.
New Trickster is insane? I think you meant 'New tricker is Insomniac' , he can't be insane ever since the Dreamweaver changes smh
I want them to change the name back to :Insane
There's no reason to change it, insanity fits just as well for the new change
@@eugeneimnotgonnatellyoumyl5513 I think the reason for the change is so that people understand it works differently now, and I think it fits dreamweaver a bit better naming wise since insomnia is related to sleep and dreamweaver prevents you from sleeping
Trickster is now kinda like the higher skill cousin of trapper and I'm all for it.
4:50 what happened is the necro was passed to another coven. Trickster just forces the attacker to visit their target as well. Since poisoner lost the necro it wasnt an attack.
I wonder if the devs want it that way
So the CL gave necro to pois and then someone else?
I'm pretty sure that's not how it works, 3 WAS poisoned
@@dot6063 was poisoned, but it should've come with a basic attack since pois had necro
@@minimum850if poisoner poisons someone they dont attack them even if they have the book
With being attacked twice in one night, the mirror should absorb the first one, then shatter from the second attack, spending the absorbed attack to save you. If the two attacks are of equal strength
Naw the trickster is already super super strong this would buff an already top tier role
or just reflect the first attack on to the second person, even if it doesn't save you.
10:00 You blocked the medusa with the mirror, got killed by shroud.. but still got stoned...
I know I'm 2 months late, but I think what happened here is that Pipe absorbed the Book, but still gets marked by Medusa's Stone gaze.
@@thevault1134 Also late, but it might work like janitor did. Probably easier to copy-paste, coding wise
7 was mad petty dc'ing like that
Dang trickster is actually fun now? What a time to be alive
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As a ToS watcher/non-player, I just want to say that this update allows more shenanigans to happen and that is always is both fun to see and just a plain win for the players as seen in this vid!
In the second game, I'm guessing what happened is that the witch attacked the arso, which is why there were no coven kills N1. That's also why the arso knew who the witch was, and outted them.
That might also be why they just outright claimed arsonist - they figured if they claimed 4 was sus, they'd just claim that 1 was immune and they'd get hung anyway.
With the other changes too, I love that trickster also slows the game down by protecting people!
The issue is achieves aren't added with old ones removed, they are replaced. If you already got "that achieve", you can't get the new one. So killing someone with their own attack might be a thing.
yep. i have not played in a while, and definitely not after the patch. i still got three CL achievements related to "retraining"
Wouldn't executing 11 in the dep game be the less risky play though, because if 2 the sc did transform they would lose if 11 was cov, and if 2 wasn't sc they lose if 11 is not town. Whereas executing just makes it so they can just vote 2 and be done with it, and they hanged 11 anyway.
Yeah not to mention 2 could have just not voted 11 and if they were really coven it would be a loss again as he cant be re-jailed
Stone people's roles
Hmmm, I wonder what 1 was in game 1....
1 was Trickster
"im gonna leave so exe doesn't win" is not "evil" it's pathetic.
0:41 nope, ur a PK
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Protective Killing
what does this mean
11:00 - 11:10 I agree with you pipe! Also, at 25:30 - 25:32 Jailor Can't Rejail 11, so in that scenario, you vote up 11 then Jailor exes The SC because you don't know if 11 is another killing role!
27:00 if 11 was poisoner and SC transformed that day. You would have lost. Coven don't have to vote with town.
Exing 11 that night would have been safer
At least somebody else noticed that. I felt so confused why they didnt just exe 11, like what does jailor lose if they exe a townie?
Except Jailor had jailed 11 the previous night. Jailor cannot jail the same person twice in a row.
@@landmine121 Yeah, the point was that they should have exed instead of just held them.
28:30 wonder if this is a pipederp moment or this was before changes
Was a pipton moment since he said at the start of the match the changes happened
At the end Pipe forgot Deputy is unique now :)
Dang Pipetron is cooking with trickster like the other times💀
I think you could've won if the tables were flipped if you were knighted and the monarch had been killed instead, and you hadn't absorbed any attack. Because then you could've voted out one of them and hopefully barrier yourself and vote the other out the next day.
I remember one time I was executioner I claimed trapper and said my target had illu visit them. My target was coven and did the exact same thing 7 did in the first match so I wasn't able to win that game because they knew I was exe and just lynched me :(
New trick is the baby of the trapper and the vigi.
2:20 illusionist is astral and would bypass perception (unless that was mod only, but pretty sure it’s vanilla)
It would be funny if a Trickster keeps blocking Bers attacks.
One must imagine trickster being highskill
Can't place new mirrors while having absorbed an attack
28:30 Deputy is Unique now, remember?
That second game was fantastic, fun to watch.
I have to wonder, how do the recent changes (both passing the book and Coven Leader retraining) affect the Coroner?
Coroner can still find the original killer of whatever they autopsied for both cases. (I know for passing, not sure about retraining but probably)
man that second game sure was wild huh
what happened to the vid from 18:32 ? It zoomed in and looked weird
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You know it would be kinda funny if they mixed a bit of auditor into the trickster. What if when they absorbed the attack the attacker lost the ability to attack until it was unleashed?
Quick question, can you hold onto the attack as long as you want as trickster? Because if that's the case then couldnt the trickster absorb CK attack and just hold onto It for as long as possible so coven just isnt able to attack anymore?.
Not with necro passing though@@mausterl26
@@mausterl26 coven can pass the book, so the ck would be able to change and be able to attack cause its a different person
@@Sorfallo oh right, they can do that now.
But what about NK or NA like bers?
I can imagine the achievement now
Taste of your own medicine:
Poison a poisoner with their own poison.
Coven leader is overpowered since you can retrain killing or yourself into Conjurer for a clutch.
Trickster is again a transporter... with 1 turn in between. It's actually better because you can avoid mistakenly killing a teammate.
28:00 I thought deputy was unique?
What i miss that 3 became from pois to Medusa
I just realisec that Necronomicon passing slightly buffs Investigator and Coroner now, as there can be more than 1 cov who has killed now.
Smacking coven roles with their own attacks is a lot of fun, but losing rb immunity is pretty rough
Ooouu, like a TP-TK mix? (Edit: Lol, wrote it right after the role explanation, unpause and that's like, the next sentence. Welp.)
Kind of like trapper, but with more attack freedom ... including more mess-up potential!
I like it :D
At 28:30 he could've not been a deputy since its unique now. Prosecutor possibly.
Genuine question of unique roles. If only deputy died N1 and there were two amnesiacs, would both become dep or just the first?
Only one will become Dep, another one will fail to remember
I love your videos, thank you Pooptron
I like how trickster now can yoink any single attack
Could trickster absorb one of War’s attacks?
so this is just btos2 trickster with unlimited uses. I love it.
28:28 Isn't Deputy unique now though? I feel that comparison would be better if they were Marshall or Prosecutor.
Weird, you absorbed poison, it still went through, and absorbed medusa, but still got stoned...
It didn't actually poison 14, according to the reason of death. I think 14 misread the message.
Medusa stoning are not part of their attack. Same with Poisoner, they will still roleblock even if their attack is absorbed
I guess Wildling, Dreamweaver, Enchanter can use their base abilities as well WITH attack and if attack is absorbed then it will be just their normal visit as if they don't have book
Wait can someone explain to me why 3 scrolls in the beginning of the video were used for the xp on the book?
GG Great video as always :)
Tf happened with the weird zooming in the secobd game?
Censoring something or what happened?
Can you absorb a douse or haunt and not be haunted/doused?
FULL COUNTER!
So trickster basically becomes crus but they can keep the attack
hey did the cl prio switch? it no longer kills normally and routine killing would be... harder with retraining.
Why would psychic go to a revealed deputy on night 2?! There's no information to gain from that. And BG had asked Crus not to go on 6.
Shame you didn't absorb the shroud for the achievement
Trickster needs to have defense if they set a mirror on them selves
Now I get to see what trickster does
BONK GANG!!!!
now there is a new claim for Enchanter plays, u can say u absorbed coven attack enchant someone as coven and pretend u killed a coven.
Now I activate my trap card, MAGIC CYLINDER!
Did I miss something, is illusionist not astral? I thought invest percept couldn't see them, which would make 9 instantly confirmed fake
That is correct
Ah ya that's the stuff.
almost 1m town coins there!
Can trickster permanently just absorb attacks off himself?
Wahoo!
How did poisoner turn Into medusa?
New coven leader ability. Can transform a coven into a different coven role
I love reporting people like 7 who admits that they're leaving before they do so
In the end you said that would be funny if he also was deputy, but didnt you said that now is a unique? that cannot be another one?
nice
Gotta get out of the habit of thinking of other Deps when you rolled it, Pipe. He couldn't have been dep, you said it yourself at the start of the vid.
abra cadabra, death is here
7 was just salty and a bad sport. 9 was playing the game like they were supposed to 😔
Uh..... start of day 3 on gane 2 has poor quality sizing
nah. trickster should only get killed if more then one person attacked you. any more then that would be OP and hard to defend if people think you are SK.
Beating the spoiler shield! Pipetron absorbs an attack of a poisoner
SO close to being first 😭
New Trickster seems very buggy
the new tricksters feels kinda weak ngl, feels like a weak tp/vigi
BAH
First pipetron
Don't party N1 and go on TP or TI claims, someone likely to be attacked since you act like LO and Tav
Edit: cause I have accidentally messed up Seer results N1 before
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