The one thing that surprised me was that the MC actually comforted Erika by giving her an embrace to a full on hug. I dont think ive ever seen that happen to any jrpg that doesnt involve romance. It was just a really wholesome moment where the MC gave the support our girl needed at the time.
I think some romantic undertones can be interpreted but its mainly platonic and I find platonic relationships in games to be rare and I find them refreshing.
It’s one thing when an ending or scene brings a tear to one’s eye. It’s another thing entirely when just hearing the theme playing during the ending somewhere else brings those tears back and that’s what Hacker’s Memory’s ending did to me. ‘Memories’ indeed-
The ending of Hacker's Memory is one that I will never forget. I liked the cast a lot so it became my favourite out of the two games because I felt that the characters were more human. CS was lots of fun but HM was a more emotional and memorable experience for me.
The fact the ending turned out the way it did, but NONE of the characters have returned in any capacity, not even in the card game, is actually criminal.
The ending for this game made me cry, this game is my personal favorite of the two. I'm not even a Digimon fan but I really enjoyed these games, I had fun sending weird moments from the games to my friends!
Spoilers below. I enjoy cyber sleuth and hackers memory a lot, but I enjoyed Hackers Memory more. While HM has it's pacing issues I just enjoyed the story a lot more, and I kind of enjoyed the 18 chapters compared to 20. The relationships between the characters were so great and it was fun to see recurring characters from CS. And HM was a lot more sad to me and I was a lot more attached to the characters which made Erika basically leaving Earths existence so sad. Keisuke was the only one to remember her, not even Ryuji or his parents remember her and it's heart wrenching. I like to imagine that the links Keisuke has with Kyoko led to him meeting the main character of CS and the others and they somehow found out they that Keisuke knows about the digital world as well, but I can only dream. Overall I love both of the games and it's so awesome to have a game of a series I loved as a kid.
Erika's development is one of the most enjoyable things I've experienced in a game link this Her growing relationship with the protagonist, and her growth in general is astounding and extremely satisfying to watch
@@B.Villa_ it's kinda the culmination of everything, without spoiling anything It sucks to watch because of what we have seen in game but it also is a perfect reflection of her journey and development
I love both Cyber Sleuth and Hacker’s Memory as both games were really good and lasted me for years on end on the first playthrough. Narratively and balance wise in the single player campaign, I prefer the original. Gameplay wise, I prefer Hacker’s Memory especially with the Domination Battles. They are just really fun. The reason why I feel the original does better in balancing is simply due to the pacing of getting better resources to raise your Digimon whereas in Hacker’s Memory, it seemed there were really long gaps before you were able to even think of upgrading the DigiFarm. I do love the relationship between Erika and Keisuke and I found it really sweet when the Dreamers team hypnotized Keisuke that Erika was the one he saw. I’ve recently been doing a nuzlocke on both games simultaneously and attempting to figure out how the two games go together chronologically. These two games will always hold a special place in my heart for helping me get through my teen years, especially the original. And I’m one of the 7 people who actually has a Vita.
to answer your question of how they go together if you mean story wise, they both happen at the same time as each other with the same characters in the same world, just 2 sides of what's going on in the cyber sleuth story. hackers memory explains why arata and suedou act the way they do in cyber sleuth, fleshing them out more with more backstory, and explains the truth of the hackers behind the scenes. the games basically fill in the blanks for each other and are in fact a single narrative together, just with 2 protags saving the world at the same time instead of just one, its probably why they rereleased them as complete edition. I played them when they first came out on both vita and ps4, then bought them a third time on switch and then a fourth time on pc. I'm glad to see new fans enjoying these amazing games.
This was pretty good game. I still remember using in my Digimon Cyber Sleuth first walkthrough in main team the Seven Great Demon Lords (Lilithmon, Beelzemon, Barbamon, Belphemon Rage Mode, Daemon, Leviamon, Lucemon Shadowlord Mode) in the final boss fight. However in my Digimon Cyber Sleuth Hacker's Memory first walkthrough I used mainly heroic Digimon like Gallantmon Crimson Mode, or Susanoomon in the final boss fight. In the end it turn out to be pretty interesting were in first game the evil digimon save up the Digital World, and in the second one the good Digimon save up the real world.
For me, Hackers memory is my favorite digimon game of tyhe franchise, it feels fantastic to play the game, the refreshing mechanics, the story, the characters and the relationship between them, the only thing that I could not ever forget is the flashbacks of Erikas story, Huddiemon and the ending... It truly was a bunch of "good" "memories" for me.
I was never huge into Digimon, because as a kid I wasn't allowed to watch it (thanks, Devimon) and as the years went on, all the games either released on consoles I didn't have or didn't come to my region at all (most notably the DS RPGs). As a result, I was always more of a Pokemon guy. In 2018 and 19, I decided to spread out and look at more games from the monster collecting genre. As a result, I picked up Cybersleuth. I was generally lukewarm on the game, mostly because the story took a while to get going and because I played on Hard, which isn't all that well-balanced in the original release. I did beat it eventually though and it was a good time after going down to Normal and actually paying attention to the layered type charts. When I played Hacker's I did so on the dual pack, that, honestly, was one of the best gaming purchases I did in recent memory. Sharing the Digimon collection between both games means you can actually play the games repeatedly as you collect them all, something that sounds neat in theory but adds so much more in practice - after all, your save file won't become a dusty trophy room this way even IF you have them all. The dual pack also applies all the balance changes from HM to the first game, making the first game a better experience overall. The real highlight for me though, was HM. The story, for the most part, feels a lot better paced than the one of the original, getting going quicker and also not meandering quite as much (though that still is a thing because of mandatory side questing). HM somehow combined all the things I want in a game and story in a package - it's character focused, even fleshing out some of the first game's characters and making them way more likeable, it still has all the cool Digimon specific monster collecting systems I love (like the expansive evolution tree) and its themes are very close to my heart. I also have a sister I have a somewhat troubled relationship with, so watching Ryuji's and Erika's story unfold was extra special to me and Erika's situation is... let's say, closer to my own situation than I'd like. Which made the whole final act extra impactful and the ending kind of broke me - I'm still not sure if I'm putting too much thought into what it's trying to tell or if I'm misinterpreting it or what, but it made the game stick with me and I think that's great. I actually replay these games too, which for such long RPGs is pretty unusual for me. The one thing I kind of wish they'd change is how stats work though. One thing Digimon always excelled at for me is the ability to make any mon strong stat-wise. I regularly replay the DS games and I always get an endgame ready Flamedramon in those despite it not being a Mega. The sleuth games instead make stats set in stone like Pokemon, which I think is a shame, as lower stage digimon naturally phase out as the game progresses that way and by the end, only Megas matter. And of those Megas, only those with good specials or abilities. It feels like a bit of a waste with such an expansive evolution tree, you know?
Digimon grew up with the fans unlike Pokemon where the anime is still going on with no sign of growth Ash is still ten years old. The Pokemon games are right now a glitch fest and i really don't see a good future and i doubt the company cares anymore but Digimon is evolving with us it's being a more mature and more caring for the fans it doesn't treat the fans like crap and as for the Digimon anime it's a lot more mature than Pokemon is. We got Tai all grown up in Digimon kizuna and got ghost game which is a little dark at times and we're getting a zero two movie with the kids grown up as well... I really appreciate Digimon for everything that it has been doing and I can't wait to see where it goes in the future.
I do think digimon has done a good job with responding to its growing audience (while also appealing to its younger crowd with stuff like ghost game so everyone wins). That said while it's a technical mess SV are probably the most fun ive had in a main series pokemon game in years.
I played hackers memory a year after playing Cyber Sleuth, and I have to say, revisiting the characters and story as it was relatively fresh in my mind, I loved it. The places felt familiar, the development was amazing to me. Every character felt so great (except chitose sometimes, but most of the time he was ok)
As a life long Digimon and Persona fan when you say Hackers Memory is character driven, you are not kidding. The character investment and development for Hackers Memory is outstanding. And that ending is easily one of the most powerful in any Digimon series. The reason I mention I’m a Persona fan is because Hackers Memory has Persona’s finger prints all over it. From its distinctive and I love it. From its use of core themes (In HM’s case memories), to its motifs (The Butterfly Dream which has been used in both this series and Persona multiple times) and it doesn’t go to waste at all. The pay off for Hackers Memory is beautiful, but tragic as well. Also Wormon is an MVP.
Glad to see you enjoyed it and liked the characters too. I also agree the ending is just powerful and fantastic and one of the few ever that made me cry.
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one of my favourite quotes was with the steam dealers with the beeps. it was kinda early in hackers but it was one that my friends and I laughed our asses off. I showed the game off to a small set of my friends, named digimon after them and had fun with it. hackers felt more complete to me and it is still honestly, in my opinion, the better game. plus, i got to fight alongside jimmy ken and his theme always got me in a good mood. being able to fight with him was the best, since sleuth never got to do that in the first place. loved Erika, chitose and Ryuji helping too and it was, and still is, a blast to be with them
I adore hackers memory to bits and I am glad others do to. That ending is gonna stay with me for a long time. I am a little sad Keisuke is a silent character because in my opinion he has way more of a character than our redheaded Aiba and more dialogue for him would have made the scenes pop a bit more but im kinda impressed that he was so expressive to convey stuff in the scenes even with the assets they had. Like when he comforts Erika or his famous :3 face when he wants to goof.
When my boyfriend bought his ps4 i got Digimon Sleuth and Digimon World just because they were digimon games.... what i didn't thought was that my man would actually play Cyber Sleuth without ANY knowledge or interest in Digimon just because "it's an old JRPG like Final Fantasy 7" ... and he almost 100 % completet it and bought "the second game" or Part II (because that's what Hackers Memory is for me) immediatly after :D also he never played Pokemon or any monster collecting RPG ... it was just "it's a JRPG with turn based combat" and then he began liking the monster designs
This is a really nice story thank you for sharing, I'm glad he enjoyed it. IDK if the new game survive will be their cup of tea but a new story game will likely be announced in the future so I hope they enjoy that one when it comes too!
No time to watch, gotta start work soon so I'll leave a quick comment. I loved this game. Lots of digivolutions I love. That ending had me in tears man. Will watch at home.
Man hackers memory was an experience for sure. Had plenty of fun playing it, sure sometimes it would feel slow to me here and there, but the game still holds a special place in my heart as a game I generally enjoyed.
Honestly, I can't believe how much I enjoyed Keisuke. I made a point to keep that his name as I found his initial monologue and general demeanor to feel more charged with personality. I like the way he relates to others, his aloof -3- face, and just how nice he is. I honestly wish he would've gotten more lines throught the game, cause I think it would've been amazing
This game pretty much reignited my passion for the series. It may not be the most complex system, but it's still pretty robust. The story is a nice change of pace, just doing odd jobs as an actual background character who is coincidentally pretty good at raising Digimon. I've heard they are considering another entry that's developed for home console this time. It's been a while but I hope it's still in the works.
I'm a lifelong Pokemon fan, but I've also always had a soft spot for Digimon thanks to the classic Adventure anime and the World series on PS1. I fell back in love with Digimon when they revived Adventure with Tri, and while I ultimately thought it was pretty mid it left me hungry for more. I had to wait until the dual pack released on Switch (didn't have a Vita or PS4) and I gotta say that Cyber Sleuth and especially Hacker's Memory are among my favorite entries in Digimon as a whole, even including the various anime series. It's refreshing seeing a series grow up a bit with it's audience and explore themes something like Pokemon will only briefly touch on. And Erika might just be my favorite character in all of Digimon. I really hope more people can experience this game.
I love both games...in term of epicness and better villain its cyber sleuth....in term of character and story its cyber sleuth...in term of difficulties, its hacker memory but cyber sleuth has a lot more hidden bosses
hacker memories really a good spin off. as spin off, its didnt distrub the main story flow and really retold you a story from different point of view. and there is at part near end that they told you "this is as far as you go in this story, because there is a major person in otherside who will finish it" as remind you keisuke its really just a normal person that being caught up, seeing the main story being told in his own unique chair, and feel the effect majorly for every main hero story.
The best metaphor I have for Hacker’s Memory is what Victory and Death is to Revenge of the Sith. It absolutely is just building off of what came before, but it ends up being better
I think the reason why people don't talk to much about HM in comparison to the first game is mainly because the first impression people had with this game was "it's just a carbon copy of the first game". I still remember the comments when the first trailer came out and some folks started to point out the game for recycling "everything" about cyber sleuth, then the complain was it didn't had a female protagonist then when it realised the main reason to hate it was because it has so many dialogues. Some even question out why it wasn't just a DLC for the first game
Oh wow...that comment actually made me depressed... The world can be quite unfair sometimes, which is funny, considering HM ends on quite an unfair note.
Great review of Hacker's Memory. I think this game works best in a complete edition alongside the first game. I bought it on release for PS Vita and was intially disappointed by how much re-used assets from the first game were in it. But it is a fun game on its own.
Thank you for the compliment! I agree that both games work best alongside eachother and im glad the later ports where bundled together. I think both games do suffer from heavy re-use from assets and hope the next story game has a bit more budget for more unique assets in both NPCs and Areas.
Thank you for making this video! I've been playing Hacker's Memory from a sale on PSN like you talked about. This is one of my favorite Digimon games of all time but man, it could be A LOT better. It just needs Quality of Life changes/updates and the MEMORY UP item change. They need better quest markers, the menuing should be easier, DigiLab should honestly just be in the start menu but still have the DigiFarm be separate, etc. Memory Up should be story related but I would also like for MEMORY UPs to be in important side quest or maybe having the potential to obtain Memory Up from a rare DigiFarm side quest drop from the Sleuthing your Digimon do on the farm. I'm excited to see your Digimon Survive video, I really hope you enjoy it! I'm gonna try to get it before Guilemon goes away on month 1!
Awesome video!u got a New sub,not many People talk about this gem,i really like it and cybersleuth,its sad that pokemon has so many games available in the West and digimon doesnt
I finished both games over the summer and hacker's memory really made me remember life is not fair. I think the story had some issues here and there but overall I'd say I completely enjoyed the game.
I played the first one and I’m currently on chapter 10 of Hacker’s, I fully agree with your analysis, it is very fun to play and took everything good from the first to make better on this one, I think the larger cast of playable digimon is one of the best aspects of the game
Digimon content, you LOVE to see it! II think as you said this is a character driven story rather than some big epic relating to the Digital World, which is why while the scale is smaller than the previous game, the story feels a lot more personal thanks to its cast. Also, Erika is best girl, one of my favorite characters in the entire digimon franchise.
Due to story reasons, my brother ultimately preferred Cyber Sleuth (7:36 - part of that is the ending so it was interesting to see a different perspective from someone who likes the ending), but if I recall correctly he did prefer this entry from a gameplay standpoint. Regardless, it serves as a good companion to the first game. 6:40 - Again, with how well they coincide with one another, it does make me feel the off-screen developments of Cyber Sleuth were intentional. 12:32 - Love the very concept of Domination Battles. Being able to play as the other characters is real and I hope such a thing returns in future Digimon games or even pops up in other monster taming RPGs.
I liked Hacker's memory. It improves on the original without changing it too much. My only issue is that the twist with "k" is a bit heavy on the foreshadowing to where if you pay attention, the twist is a bit too obvious. I think, at the very least, throw a curveball, so instead of going, "Ugh, i figured it out earlier," you go, "i knew it!"
The ending of this game made me so mad! But, because it was so good! To me the ending felt near perfect, and while I felt some of it was hinted at, it kept you questioning what was gonna happen. It actually managed to get a lot of emotion out of me, and the story of the game really pulled me in.
To point out, the story could have been better. But it felt so... Real? As weird as that seems. I love Digimon in general, and these games were no exception.
I think part of it is while the cast are anime hackers who use digital creatures theyre also alot more grounded as character who have real struggles and face real consequences. so the occurrences in the game feel alot more relatable as a result.
Cyber Sleuth universe got some love lately, nice. I still love this universe even I finished 100% the game long time ago. Amazing story, amazing gameplay, enjoyable side stories. On top of that they have considerable amount of various Digimons which I enjoy the most. Expect they'll continue something like this in a future. I have finished Digimon Survive a week ago. It's enjoyable but after it ends it's done. Overall story remind me to the original Digimon Adventure anime with more mature but I felt it's not that memorable or revisit vibe like Cyber Sleuth or another story series.
Well, I agree with your comment, but Survive is not quite done after 1 playthrough. There are multiple endings, some only achievable on a second playthrough. Problem with Survive is that the gameplay aspect is a lot worse compared to CS. In CS, the fights are enjoyable and even if one does not like the gameplay, most fights are done pretty quick. In Survive, fights can take quite a while to finish, which makes an (in my opinion) already boring battle system even more tedious. Sooo...to get those multiple endings, you have to actually deal with that Gameplay a whole lot more, which is most certainly...not good.
Jokes on you, I have Sleuth on my VITA because I wanted the additional content I missed the window for originally! That aside, on the bit of the game feeling easier, it was. The balance changes they made from Cyber Sleuth to Hacker's Memory were actually pretty massive, in amount of not scale. Piercing moves were readjusted, passives were changed, and ABI was more plentiful to name some of the bigger ones. Notably, these tended to affect the enemies worse than the player due to the story design. I love Digimon, I love /most/ of the games, and both Hacker's and Sleuth are amazing. They came at a great time and were digestible enough for new fans that it sparked a huge western resurgence that I couldn't be happier for. Whiney Side Note: I am still, unapologetically and unreasonably, angry that they censored Sistermon Noir because of America. I'm glad we got Ciel and all, I still love her, but the reason for this being her debut is nonsensical. Even more so because its just an asset swap and in every other piece of media, Ciel uses her sword. The copium tells me I'm being nitpicky, but it really just rubs me the wrong way.
What I enjoyed a lot was that I found it harder then cyber cleuth and how to be careful not to get too attached to the digimon you use cos you can change them entirely into something totally different.
I had covid the last few weeks and decided to come back and play Cybersleuth and actually complete it, which I did. I haven't played through Hacker's Memory yet but I think I need to take a break for a little bit. It's hard when you make some OP digimon in Cybersleuth and then have to start from the beginning and grind up again with a whole new story. Definitely want to give it a try though eventually.
yeah taking a break is good, both are good games but because they're so similar its easy to get burnt out so spacing out the playthroughs is a good idea.
My only real complaint for the game is that you really need 9 exp Tactician USBs to make the grind tolerable. Even with that and one Platinum Sukamon it took me 70 hours to complete the game with a team I wanted and could use to beat almost everything (excluding post game) on hard. Normal mode is too easy, and hard makes you grind for penetrating movesets. After 40h I was getting kind of burned out and just wanted to get it over with. Story was OK, annoying at times but got more interesting towards the end. All in all I did enjoy the game, and this is coming from someone who is a bit nostalgic for all the Digimon games on PSX I played as a kid.
Just want to say that I love your Digimon videos, there really aren't many video reviews that go in-depth about the franchise or the video games. Love the quality and effort you put into them, I just finished Survive, so I'm looking forward to your review or any future videos!
thank you, personally i don't think i'm doing them as much justice as I could but I hope it helps out the series rep if just a little bit. I definitely have some survive coming soon so look forward to that!
One of the funniest things for me is that the protagonist reminds me a lot of tadano from komi san cant communicate, not only on design but that he is also "just a guy" like tadano lol One of my favorite things about the game is how they enphasise that the protagonist is a hacker, since he has a lot more of hacker skills that he is required to use, compared to cyber sleuth where at most, you'll maybe use the incognito mode once or twice, while you'll be using the hacker skill to prevent random encounters the most, while in hacker's memory, you'll use several hacker skills to solve puzles in order to progress, incognito mode can help you avoid tamer battles, and you can even "accelerate" yourself, making traveling across the dungeons more easy
I feel like between sleuth and hackers theyve covered enough of the setting and the implication for the next story game is theyre gonna go for something new but only time will tell
Literally just completed my run of both games via the switch. Loved it as a long time digimon fan (super glad I’m also a fan of GUNDRAMON) I had some issues with hackers memory right after playing cyber sleuth. Mainly the pacing was weird at times like you mentioned. I feel like both games had moments it drags on side story/ mission wise. I felt like hackers memory did it even more with less chapters than cyber lol. Literally moments I thought “how is there more side quests I want more of the story.” I did enjoy everything and even optimizing my teams a bit more having learned better strategy from the first. The ending for hackers memory is better imo too. Made me shed a tear or two.
I'm actually playing this now XD I recently bought the Duo sale on Switch cuz, why not? Since playing on vita and ps4 is rather complicated now. I really love switching off between the stories, play a chapter as the Slueth and then switch to play as the Hacker. It's a nice Duality story and they both compliment each other well filling in the holes of each other's stories. I hope we see more games like this from Digimon fo a feel it's a series that caters to both casual and serious players while Pokemon ONLY caters to children.
My only gripe with Hacker’s Memory is the lack of a choice for a female protagonist like in Sleuth and inability to skip or auto in cutscenes. Other than that, Hacker’s Memory was a great experience and much more coherent story. I feel that this game also influenced Survive in terms of tone and character-driven narrative as well as focusing on more obscure Digimon. If they ever do a Cyber Sleuth style Digimon game again, I hope it has the tone of Hacker’s Memory and Survive while having a female protagonist with a close group of friends like in Hackers. I really like your reviews, very informative. ❤️
I think it's a fair gripe, I wonder what a female version of keisuke would look like lol. I think the set gender was because he is more of a character but honestly he's still silent enough they could have made a female option. Maybe this game made them hit their stride in terms of writing more grounded characters? I wonder if that will carry over into the new story games too. Thank you so much for the support!
A female version of Keisuke wouldn't really work due to the goals they had in mind with this game. For example: The relationship between Keisuke and Yu was clearly meant to be Yaoi. One-sided or not, changing Keisukes gender would automatically change this aspect of the game. Similarly, many scenes between Chitose and Keisuke wouldn't work if Keisuke could be played as a female. Keisuke being somewhat flirty with the females (and/or Yu, depending on your choices) is also pretty important to his character. In short: If they made a female version of Keisuke, a whole lot about the story would require rewritting.
@@tadaokou4919I mean what's wrong with the female protag being the one being flirty to girls and then having that kind of relation to Yuu? It would need re-writting, relationships are the same regardless of gender
@@alex-8736 "relationships are the same regardless of gender." If you actually believe that you live in a fantasy world. But besides that, the goal with the relationship between Yu and Keisuke was pretty clear. It's Yaoi. A change in character would result in a change in genre which is not what the devs had in mind. Yaoi is not Yuri. Yuri was not the goal of the game and the amount of rewriting just to make Keisuke female is tremendous. And for what? Just so people can say "I can see myself in this character because I got tits and she got tits"? Normal people can see themself in a fictional character regardless of gender, race or anything else. The fictional character only needs to be written well and needs to have relatable struggles/characteristics. The gender of fictional characters is only a really big deal for people who spent their time on Twitter 24/7.
@@tadaokou4919 I'm sorry but if you think gay and lesbian relationships are called yaoi and Yuri (which btw are manga terms that aren't used anymore) it's just clear that you aren't very bright
Ik im late but can i just say how happy I am we don't have a silent protagonist this time. Like it drives me up a wall when a game with a story has a silent protagonist with the only reason being "its supposed to be your story"
What’s the name of the ost used at the beginning and end of the video? I really loved this review of hackers memory. This is personally one of my top favorite jrpgs of all time with its character driven story telling, the ending made me cry and touched my heart. I’ll never forget the experience of Hackers Memory and I wish that someday it’s popularity will grow stronger. I barely know anyone that’s ever played this game so I say hello to all you fans out there. ^^
the music used at the beginning and end is digimon world 3 -East and South Station-. thank you so much and its always good to see another Hackers fan out there.
@@BobbyHopp Well even if it's not a Cyber Sleuth title, I am assuming it will still use the same formula as Cyber Sleuth when it comes to combat and gameplay. I would be surprised if they use Digimon Survive's style of gameplay and combat because so far it's been polarizing.
Was making a new game + run when I saw this and let me say hackers memory is my favorite digimon game and I played them all from the ds story, dawn/dusk games to digimon world 1-4, saver, etc this game is the one that holds my heart and I wish they continue the cyber sleuth series or at least the genre. I kinda hated the survive one based on its light novel story and evolutions based on choices thing. It's story just doesn't make a lick of sense especially when compared to hacker's memory please let there be more like this game
I really enjoy Hacker's Memory over Cyber Sleuth. I enjoyed the pacing and the characters and seeing further development of some of the side characters and even main cast of the last game made it much more enjoyable. My only problem is that Cyber Sleuth's story actually made Hacker's Memory worse for me due to the ending.
Omnimon and Omnimon Zwart got buffed. Supreme Cannon used to do 130ish Water Damage. Now its an INT-Penetrating Strong Skill. Zwart abuses it better. Chaosmon VA knowing Mach Rush 3 helps with Farming. Pair with 2 PlatinumNumemon for EXP or 2 PrinceMamemon for YEN. Mastemons 25% Chip Special Move is still good vs Hard Mode Bosses. Alphamon Ouryuken is broken. DEF-Pierce Extra Strong skill. Toptier support skill. Also helps Ouryumons who evolution line is toptier for in game playthough with low requirements. Ouryumon itself is fine to stop on. Susanomon is tanky and has a good support skill. Can function as glue. Same for Imperialdramon DM/FM. Examon is a downgrade compared to Slayerdramon. Not worth. Chaosmon regular is garbo. INT-Pierce on a mon with low INT. Its a mixed bag.
The one thing that surprised me was that the MC actually comforted Erika by giving her an embrace to a full on hug. I dont think ive ever seen that happen to any jrpg that doesnt involve romance. It was just a really wholesome moment where the MC gave the support our girl needed at the time.
I think some romantic undertones can be interpreted but its mainly platonic and I find platonic relationships in games to be rare and I find them refreshing.
It’s one thing when an ending or scene brings a tear to one’s eye.
It’s another thing entirely when just hearing the theme playing during the ending somewhere else brings those tears back and that’s what Hacker’s Memory’s ending did to me.
‘Memories’ indeed-
this games ending theme always hits me like a truck
Oh most definitely, I also find the one moment with Hudiemon and Keisuke to be too funny.
I feel that
The ending of Hacker's Memory is one that I will never forget. I liked the cast a lot so it became my favourite out of the two games because I felt that the characters were more human. CS was lots of fun but HM was a more emotional and memorable experience for me.
The fact the ending turned out the way it did, but NONE of the characters have returned in any capacity, not even in the card game, is actually criminal.
The ending for this game made me cry, this game is my personal favorite of the two. I'm not even a Digimon fan but I really enjoyed these games, I had fun sending weird moments from the games to my friends!
The “Bettee Call Saul” of Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth
this comparison is kinda based
Spoilers below.
I enjoy cyber sleuth and hackers memory a lot, but I enjoyed Hackers Memory more. While HM has it's pacing issues I just enjoyed the story a lot more, and I kind of enjoyed the 18 chapters compared to 20. The relationships between the characters were so great and it was fun to see recurring characters from CS. And HM was a lot more sad to me and I was a lot more attached to the characters which made Erika basically leaving Earths existence so sad. Keisuke was the only one to remember her, not even Ryuji or his parents remember her and it's heart wrenching. I like to imagine that the links Keisuke has with Kyoko led to him meeting the main character of CS and the others and they somehow found out they that Keisuke knows about the digital world as well, but I can only dream. Overall I love both of the games and it's so awesome to have a game of a series I loved as a kid.
Erika's development is one of the most enjoyable things I've experienced in a game link this
Her growing relationship with the protagonist, and her growth in general is astounding and extremely satisfying to watch
Don't forget the physical abuse against the protagonist.
Yet at the end she… 💀
@@B.Villa_ it's kinda the culmination of everything, without spoiling anything
It sucks to watch because of what we have seen in game but it also is a perfect reflection of her journey and development
@@beCoCOi It's memetan for you!
I love both Cyber Sleuth and Hacker’s Memory as both games were really good and lasted me for years on end on the first playthrough. Narratively and balance wise in the single player campaign, I prefer the original. Gameplay wise, I prefer Hacker’s Memory especially with the Domination Battles. They are just really fun. The reason why I feel the original does better in balancing is simply due to the pacing of getting better resources to raise your Digimon whereas in Hacker’s Memory, it seemed there were really long gaps before you were able to even think of upgrading the DigiFarm. I do love the relationship between Erika and Keisuke and I found it really sweet when the Dreamers team hypnotized Keisuke that Erika was the one he saw. I’ve recently been doing a nuzlocke on both games simultaneously and attempting to figure out how the two games go together chronologically. These two games will always hold a special place in my heart for helping me get through my teen years, especially the original. And I’m one of the 7 people who actually has a Vita.
I am also one of those 7
just 5 more.......
to answer your question of how they go together if you mean story wise, they both happen at the same time as each other with the same characters in the same world, just 2 sides of what's going on in the cyber sleuth story. hackers memory explains why arata and suedou act the way they do in cyber sleuth, fleshing them out more with more backstory, and explains the truth of the hackers behind the scenes. the games basically fill in the blanks for each other and are in fact a single narrative together, just with 2 protags saving the world at the same time instead of just one, its probably why they rereleased them as complete edition. I played them when they first came out on both vita and ps4, then bought them a third time on switch and then a fourth time on pc. I'm glad to see new fans enjoying these amazing games.
@@BobbyHopp Let's go I'm also one of those 7.
Somehow got my vita still
i also have them on vita
We now have four. Once all seven Vita owners are gathered, the ultimate power will be unleashed.
This was pretty good game. I still remember using in my Digimon Cyber Sleuth first walkthrough in main team the Seven Great Demon Lords (Lilithmon, Beelzemon, Barbamon, Belphemon Rage Mode, Daemon, Leviamon, Lucemon Shadowlord Mode) in the final boss fight. However in my Digimon Cyber Sleuth Hacker's Memory first walkthrough I used mainly heroic Digimon like Gallantmon Crimson Mode, or Susanoomon in the final boss fight. In the end it turn out to be pretty interesting were in first game the evil digimon save up the Digital World, and in the second one the good Digimon save up the real world.
For me, Hackers memory is my favorite digimon game of tyhe franchise, it feels fantastic to play the game, the refreshing mechanics, the story, the characters and the relationship between them, the only thing that I could not ever forget is the flashbacks of Erikas story, Huddiemon and the ending...
It truly was a bunch of "good" "memories" for me.
I love the more grounded feel Hacker's Memory gives.
Hahahhaha the Hookmon cameos for the forbidden word made me laugh every time!🤣🤣🤣💪💪💪
I was never huge into Digimon, because as a kid I wasn't allowed to watch it (thanks, Devimon) and as the years went on, all the games either released on consoles I didn't have or didn't come to my region at all (most notably the DS RPGs). As a result, I was always more of a Pokemon guy. In 2018 and 19, I decided to spread out and look at more games from the monster collecting genre. As a result, I picked up Cybersleuth. I was generally lukewarm on the game, mostly because the story took a while to get going and because I played on Hard, which isn't all that well-balanced in the original release. I did beat it eventually though and it was a good time after going down to Normal and actually paying attention to the layered type charts.
When I played Hacker's I did so on the dual pack, that, honestly, was one of the best gaming purchases I did in recent memory. Sharing the Digimon collection between both games means you can actually play the games repeatedly as you collect them all, something that sounds neat in theory but adds so much more in practice - after all, your save file won't become a dusty trophy room this way even IF you have them all. The dual pack also applies all the balance changes from HM to the first game, making the first game a better experience overall. The real highlight for me though, was HM. The story, for the most part, feels a lot better paced than the one of the original, getting going quicker and also not meandering quite as much (though that still is a thing because of mandatory side questing). HM somehow combined all the things I want in a game and story in a package - it's character focused, even fleshing out some of the first game's characters and making them way more likeable, it still has all the cool Digimon specific monster collecting systems I love (like the expansive evolution tree) and its themes are very close to my heart. I also have a sister I have a somewhat troubled relationship with, so watching Ryuji's and Erika's story unfold was extra special to me and Erika's situation is... let's say, closer to my own situation than I'd like. Which made the whole final act extra impactful and the ending kind of broke me - I'm still not sure if I'm putting too much thought into what it's trying to tell or if I'm misinterpreting it or what, but it made the game stick with me and I think that's great.
I actually replay these games too, which for such long RPGs is pretty unusual for me. The one thing I kind of wish they'd change is how stats work though. One thing Digimon always excelled at for me is the ability to make any mon strong stat-wise. I regularly replay the DS games and I always get an endgame ready Flamedramon in those despite it not being a Mega. The sleuth games instead make stats set in stone like Pokemon, which I think is a shame, as lower stage digimon naturally phase out as the game progresses that way and by the end, only Megas matter. And of those Megas, only those with good specials or abilities. It feels like a bit of a waste with such an expansive evolution tree, you know?
I would never say the ending was bad, much the opposite actually, but it sure broke my heart.
yeah, it actually really surprised me to see how so many people disliked the games ending when I thought it was great.
Digimon grew up with the fans unlike Pokemon where the anime is still going on with no sign of growth Ash is still ten years old.
The Pokemon games are right now a glitch fest and i really don't see a good future and i doubt the company cares anymore but Digimon is evolving with us it's being a more mature and more caring for the fans it doesn't treat the fans like crap and as for the Digimon anime it's a lot more mature than Pokemon is.
We got Tai all grown up in Digimon kizuna and got ghost game which is a little dark at times and we're getting a zero two movie with the kids grown up as well... I really appreciate Digimon for everything that it has been doing and I can't wait to see where it goes in the future.
I do think digimon has done a good job with responding to its growing audience (while also appealing to its younger crowd with stuff like ghost game so everyone wins).
That said while it's a technical mess SV are probably the most fun ive had in a main series pokemon game in years.
I love Digimon
so true bestie
Me too
Digimon good?
@@Matiasfv yes
I played hackers memory a year after playing Cyber Sleuth, and I have to say, revisiting the characters and story as it was relatively fresh in my mind, I loved it. The places felt familiar, the development was amazing to me. Every character felt so great (except chitose sometimes, but most of the time he was ok)
As a life long Digimon and Persona fan when you say Hackers Memory is character driven, you are not kidding. The character investment and development for Hackers Memory is outstanding. And that ending is easily one of the most powerful in any Digimon series. The reason I mention I’m a Persona fan is because Hackers Memory has Persona’s finger prints all over it. From its distinctive and I love it. From its use of core themes (In HM’s case memories), to its motifs (The Butterfly Dream which has been used in both this series and Persona multiple times) and it doesn’t go to waste at all.
The pay off for Hackers Memory is beautiful, but tragic as well. Also Wormon is an MVP.
Glad to see you enjoyed it and liked the characters too. I also agree the ending is just powerful and fantastic and one of the few ever that made me cry.
Hey Guys I'm back with a new video
I tried to mix the background music a bit quieter this time around but I may have made it a little too quiet so let me know if you prefer the former or this one or if I should just keep trying to strike a better balance in the future. I am still learning and trying my best each video.
Thanks for watching and I hope you all enjoy.
Background music sounds great!
Audio mixing sounds really good here 👍
When the protagonist said "AAAHHH IM CYBER SLEUTHING" I couldn't hold back tears
when the doctor told him he was a hacker and has memories and it was terminal I shed one single tear with the weight of a thousand stars
@@BobbyHopp I still can't believe that at the end they foreshadowed the next game by saying "next time, we will Digimon Survive"
one of my favourite quotes was with the steam dealers with the beeps. it was kinda early in hackers but it was one that my friends and I laughed our asses off. I showed the game off to a small set of my friends, named digimon after them and had fun with it. hackers felt more complete to me and it is still honestly, in my opinion, the better game. plus, i got to fight alongside jimmy ken and his theme always got me in a good mood. being able to fight with him was the best, since sleuth never got to do that in the first place. loved Erika, chitose and Ryuji helping too and it was, and still is, a blast to be with them
I digimon hackers memory more than cyber sleuth because I felt more emotional in hackers memory.
I actually got a laugh at the one scene when it came to Erikas drink she made. Makes me want to know how she made the drink
I adore hackers memory to bits and I am glad others do to. That ending is gonna stay with me for a long time. I am a little sad Keisuke is a silent character because in my opinion he has way more of a character than our redheaded Aiba and more dialogue for him would have made the scenes pop a bit more but im kinda impressed that he was so expressive to convey stuff in the scenes even with the assets they had. Like when he comforts Erika or his famous :3 face when he wants to goof.
When my boyfriend bought his ps4 i got Digimon Sleuth and Digimon World just because they were digimon games.... what i didn't thought was that my man would actually play Cyber Sleuth without ANY knowledge or interest in Digimon just because "it's an old JRPG like Final Fantasy 7" ... and he almost 100 % completet it and bought "the second game" or Part II (because that's what Hackers Memory is for me) immediatly after :D
also he never played Pokemon or any monster collecting RPG ... it was just "it's a JRPG with turn based combat" and then he began liking the monster designs
This is a really nice story thank you for sharing, I'm glad he enjoyed it. IDK if the new game survive will be their cup of tea but a new story game will likely be announced in the future so I hope they enjoy that one when it comes too!
No time to watch, gotta start work soon so I'll leave a quick comment. I loved this game. Lots of digivolutions I love. That ending had me in tears man. Will watch at home.
Man hackers memory was an experience for sure.
Had plenty of fun playing it, sure sometimes it would feel slow to me here and there, but the game still holds a special place in my heart as a game I generally enjoyed.
Genuinely love this game and I am glad to see someone covering and praising it. This review is no joke!
i started playing this game last month and.....my friend how i am loving this game!
Honestly, I can't believe how much I enjoyed Keisuke. I made a point to keep that his name as I found his initial monologue and general demeanor to feel more charged with personality. I like the way he relates to others, his aloof -3- face, and just how nice he is. I honestly wish he would've gotten more lines throught the game, cause I think it would've been amazing
I've replayed this game several times I love it
Digimon stans gotta assemble to get this man more subs
well I like digimon and im gonna cover more digimon but I also cover other series as well and will be more of a variety channel than a single series.
@@BobbyHopp dats cool, I wish you well and future growing success. I’ll be around.
thank you very much, I appreciate the support!
I'm currently playing it (ps4 version 2016)and I'm loving it. I thought the game was short but there's a lot to do.
Excellent video as always!!!!!!!! A bit sad I couldn't get around to watching it till now, but well worth the small wait!!! 💖💖💖
This game pretty much reignited my passion for the series. It may not be the most complex system, but it's still pretty robust. The story is a nice change of pace, just doing odd jobs as an actual background character who is coincidentally pretty good at raising Digimon.
I've heard they are considering another entry that's developed for home console this time. It's been a while but I hope it's still in the works.
I'm a lifelong Pokemon fan, but I've also always had a soft spot for Digimon thanks to the classic Adventure anime and the World series on PS1. I fell back in love with Digimon when they revived Adventure with Tri, and while I ultimately thought it was pretty mid it left me hungry for more. I had to wait until the dual pack released on Switch (didn't have a Vita or PS4) and I gotta say that Cyber Sleuth and especially Hacker's Memory are among my favorite entries in Digimon as a whole, even including the various anime series. It's refreshing seeing a series grow up a bit with it's audience and explore themes something like Pokemon will only briefly touch on. And Erika might just be my favorite character in all of Digimon. I really hope more people can experience this game.
I hope so too, the sleuth duo pack makes it much more accessible to more people
I love both games...in term of epicness and better villain its cyber sleuth....in term of character and story its cyber sleuth...in term of difficulties, its hacker memory but cyber sleuth has a lot more hidden bosses
The ending to this game absolutely crushed me but it was a journey to the very end. Even though the farewell was bitter sweet, it’s better this way.
yeah its a very great but sad ending.
For me Cyber Sleuth Hacker's and Memory are the best games in the franchise today!
hacker memories really a good spin off. as spin off, its didnt distrub the main story flow and really retold you a story from different point of view. and there is at part near end that they told you "this is as far as you go in this story, because there is a major person in otherside who will finish it" as remind you keisuke its really just a normal person that being caught up, seeing the main story being told in his own unique chair, and feel the effect majorly for every main hero story.
Hackers memory is the only side of the game I've beaten. It also got me back into digimon again
The best metaphor I have for Hacker’s Memory is what Victory and Death is to Revenge of the Sith. It absolutely is just building off of what came before, but it ends up being better
Yeah, I like Sleuth but Hackers just improved on it in every way that matters to me
I think the reason why people don't talk to much about HM in comparison to the first game is mainly because the first impression people had with this game was "it's just a carbon copy of the first game". I still remember the comments when the first trailer came out and some folks started to point out the game for recycling "everything" about cyber sleuth, then the complain was it didn't had a female protagonist then when it realised the main reason to hate it was because it has so many dialogues. Some even question out why it wasn't just a DLC for the first game
Oh wow...that comment actually made me depressed...
The world can be quite unfair sometimes, which is funny, considering HM ends on quite an unfair note.
Great review of Hacker's Memory. I think this game works best in a complete edition alongside the first game.
I bought it on release for PS Vita and was intially disappointed by how much re-used assets from the first game were in it. But it is a fun game on its own.
Thank you for the compliment! I agree that both games work best alongside eachother and im glad the later ports where bundled together. I think both games do suffer from heavy re-use from assets and hope the next story game has a bit more budget for more unique assets in both NPCs and Areas.
Loved this game so much, if it wasn't for me doing my second Digimon Survive playthrough id be replaying hacker's memory
Thank you for making this video! I've been playing Hacker's Memory from a sale on PSN like you talked about.
This is one of my favorite Digimon games of all time but man, it could be A LOT better.
It just needs Quality of Life changes/updates and the MEMORY UP item change.
They need better quest markers, the menuing should be easier, DigiLab should honestly just be in the start menu but still have the DigiFarm be separate, etc.
Memory Up should be story related but I would also like for MEMORY UPs to be in important side quest or maybe having the potential to obtain Memory Up from a rare DigiFarm side quest drop from the Sleuthing your Digimon do on the farm.
I'm excited to see your Digimon Survive video, I really hope you enjoy it! I'm gonna try to get it before Guilemon goes away on month 1!
Awesome video!u got a New sub,not many People talk about this gem,i really like it and cybersleuth,its sad that pokemon has so many games available in the West and digimon doesnt
I still play the heck out of this game for fun every now and then. I love various options of digimon available.
i remember when i first play this game it was so funny and the scene was so hilarious as well and it one kf my favoritte games as well.
I finished both games over the summer and hacker's memory really made me remember life is not fair. I think the story had some issues here and there but overall I'd say I completely enjoyed the game.
Gotta Love Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth: Persona Edition.
I played the first one and I’m currently on chapter 10 of Hacker’s, I fully agree with your analysis, it is very fun to play and took everything good from the first to make better on this one, I think the larger cast of playable digimon is one of the best aspects of the game
Digimon content, you LOVE to see it! II think as you said this is a character driven story rather than some big epic relating to the Digital World, which is why while the scale is smaller than the previous game, the story feels a lot more personal thanks to its cast. Also, Erika is best girl, one of my favorite characters in the entire digimon franchise.
Due to story reasons, my brother ultimately preferred Cyber Sleuth (7:36 - part of that is the ending so it was interesting to see a different perspective from someone who likes the ending), but if I recall correctly he did prefer this entry from a gameplay standpoint. Regardless, it serves as a good companion to the first game.
6:40 - Again, with how well they coincide with one another, it does make me feel the off-screen developments of Cyber Sleuth were intentional.
12:32 - Love the very concept of Domination Battles. Being able to play as the other characters is real and I hope such a thing returns in future Digimon games or even pops up in other monster taming RPGs.
@BobbyHopp
Thanks for the Digimon World 2003 soundtrack. You unlocked some childhood core memories
I love digimon world 3 and its ost im glad you do too.
I hope you enjoy if you get it! also its on sale often too!
I liked Hacker's memory. It improves on the original without changing it too much. My only issue is that the twist with "k" is a bit heavy on the foreshadowing to where if you pay attention, the twist is a bit too obvious. I think, at the very least, throw a curveball, so instead of going, "Ugh, i figured it out earlier," you go, "i knew it!"
The ending of this game made me so mad! But, because it was so good! To me the ending felt near perfect, and while I felt some of it was hinted at, it kept you questioning what was gonna happen. It actually managed to get a lot of emotion out of me, and the story of the game really pulled me in.
To point out, the story could have been better. But it felt so... Real? As weird as that seems. I love Digimon in general, and these games were no exception.
I think part of it is while the cast are anime hackers who use digital creatures theyre also alot more grounded as character who have real struggles and face real consequences. so the occurrences in the game feel alot more relatable as a result.
@@BobbyHopp yeah I think your right about that! It definitely made the games story more relatable.
Hackers memory is my fav digimon game too
Goddamn the feels towards the end
Cyber Sleuth universe got some love lately, nice.
I still love this universe even I finished 100% the game long time ago. Amazing story, amazing gameplay, enjoyable side stories. On top of that they have considerable amount of various Digimons which I enjoy the most.
Expect they'll continue something like this in a future. I have finished Digimon Survive a week ago. It's enjoyable but after it ends it's done. Overall story remind me to the original Digimon Adventure anime with more mature but I felt it's not that memorable or revisit vibe like Cyber Sleuth or another story series.
Well, I agree with your comment, but Survive is not quite done after 1 playthrough.
There are multiple endings, some only achievable on a second playthrough.
Problem with Survive is that the gameplay aspect is a lot worse compared to CS.
In CS, the fights are enjoyable and even if one does not like the gameplay, most fights are done pretty quick.
In Survive, fights can take quite a while to finish, which makes an (in my opinion) already boring battle system even more tedious.
Sooo...to get those multiple endings, you have to actually deal with that Gameplay a whole lot more, which is most certainly...not good.
This was the best Digimon rpg that I played.
Jokes on you, I have Sleuth on my VITA because I wanted the additional content I missed the window for originally!
That aside, on the bit of the game feeling easier, it was. The balance changes they made from Cyber Sleuth to Hacker's Memory were actually pretty massive, in amount of not scale. Piercing moves were readjusted, passives were changed, and ABI was more plentiful to name some of the bigger ones. Notably, these tended to affect the enemies worse than the player due to the story design.
I love Digimon, I love /most/ of the games, and both Hacker's and Sleuth are amazing. They came at a great time and were digestible enough for new fans that it sparked a huge western resurgence that I couldn't be happier for.
Whiney Side Note: I am still, unapologetically and unreasonably, angry that they censored Sistermon Noir because of America. I'm glad we got Ciel and all, I still love her, but the reason for this being her debut is nonsensical. Even more so because its just an asset swap and in every other piece of media, Ciel uses her sword. The copium tells me I'm being nitpicky, but it really just rubs me the wrong way.
its religious crap we can have god and Satan in games but Yggdrasil forbid we have a nun
What I enjoyed a lot was that I found it harder then cyber cleuth and how to be careful not to get too attached to the digimon you use cos you can change them entirely into something totally different.
Ah, what a refreshing review! Excellent job! You have a great knack for editing and script writing and it shows!
thank you so much for the compliments, that said I'm still very rough and have a long way to go.
@@BobbyHopp I look forward to seeing more videos from you. I think you have remarkable potential :)
thank you! I also checked out some of your stuff and you make alot of cool digimon vids yourself.
I had covid the last few weeks and decided to come back and play Cybersleuth and actually complete it, which I did. I haven't played through Hacker's Memory yet but I think I need to take a break for a little bit. It's hard when you make some OP digimon in Cybersleuth and then have to start from the beginning and grind up again with a whole new story. Definitely want to give it a try though eventually.
yeah taking a break is good, both are good games but because they're so similar its easy to get burnt out so spacing out the playthroughs is a good idea.
My only real complaint for the game is that you really need 9 exp Tactician USBs to make the grind tolerable. Even with that and one Platinum Sukamon it took me 70 hours to complete the game with a team I wanted and could use to beat almost everything (excluding post game) on hard. Normal mode is too easy, and hard makes you grind for penetrating movesets. After 40h I was getting kind of burned out and just wanted to get it over with. Story was OK, annoying at times but got more interesting towards the end. All in all I did enjoy the game, and this is coming from someone who is a bit nostalgic for all the Digimon games on PSX I played as a kid.
Was able to get the double pack on switch and got both on ps4
I hope you enjoy it!
Gonna be fully honest my favourite game ever and it's not close
Im happy you like it so much its becoming one of my favorites too as I spend more time reflecting on the games I played in the ps4 era.
My final team usually is TyrantKabuterimon, Rosemon BM, and ShineGreymon BM
all fantastic choices, I'm glad the burst modes are in, they're so cool.
I bought this game from the pawn....takk about hidden gem
Hacker's memory has actually been delisted from the vita store too appearently.
that fucking sucks, thanks for letting me know, bamco on some shit.
Just want to say that I love your Digimon videos, there really aren't many video reviews that go in-depth about the franchise or the video games. Love the quality and effort you put into them, I just finished Survive, so I'm looking forward to your review or any future videos!
thank you, personally i don't think i'm doing them as much justice as I could but I hope it helps out the series rep if just a little bit.
I definitely have some survive coming soon so look forward to that!
One of the funniest things for me is that the protagonist reminds me a lot of tadano from komi san cant communicate, not only on design but that he is also "just a guy" like tadano lol
One of my favorite things about the game is how they enphasise that the protagonist is a hacker, since he has a lot more of hacker skills that he is required to use, compared to cyber sleuth where at most, you'll maybe use the incognito mode once or twice, while you'll be using the hacker skill to prevent random encounters the most, while in hacker's memory, you'll use several hacker skills to solve puzles in order to progress, incognito mode can help you avoid tamer battles, and you can even "accelerate" yourself, making traveling across the dungeons more easy
I need a third cyber sleuth for a trilogy
I feel like between sleuth and hackers theyve covered enough of the setting and the implication for the next story game is theyre gonna go for something new
but only time will tell
Literally just completed my run of both games via the switch. Loved it as a long time digimon fan (super glad I’m also a fan of GUNDRAMON)
I had some issues with hackers memory right after playing cyber sleuth. Mainly the pacing was weird at times like you mentioned. I feel like both games had moments it drags on side story/ mission wise. I felt like hackers memory did it even more with less chapters than cyber lol. Literally moments I thought “how is there more side quests I want more of the story.”
I did enjoy everything and even optimizing my teams a bit more having learned better strategy from the first. The ending for hackers memory is better imo too. Made me shed a tear or two.
I love that you’re giving these games the love they deserve fam!!
I'm actually playing this now XD I recently bought the Duo sale on Switch cuz, why not? Since playing on vita and ps4 is rather complicated now. I really love switching off between the stories, play a chapter as the Slueth and then switch to play as the Hacker. It's a nice Duality story and they both compliment each other well filling in the holes of each other's stories. I hope we see more games like this from Digimon fo a feel it's a series that caters to both casual and serious players while Pokemon ONLY caters to children.
I really hope they release more cybersleuth series
were getting a new story game announcement very soon likely but unless something has changed the sleuth series itself is over.
My only gripe with Hacker’s Memory is the lack of a choice for a female protagonist like in Sleuth and inability to skip or auto in cutscenes. Other than that, Hacker’s Memory was a great experience and much more coherent story. I feel that this game also influenced Survive in terms of tone and character-driven narrative as well as focusing on more obscure Digimon.
If they ever do a Cyber Sleuth style Digimon game again, I hope it has the tone of Hacker’s Memory and Survive while having a female protagonist with a close group of friends like in Hackers.
I really like your reviews, very informative. ❤️
I think it's a fair gripe, I wonder what a female version of keisuke would look like lol. I think the set gender was because he is more of a character but honestly he's still silent enough they could have made a female option.
Maybe this game made them hit their stride in terms of writing more grounded characters? I wonder if that will carry over into the new story games too.
Thank you so much for the support!
A female version of Keisuke wouldn't really work due to the goals they had in mind with this game.
For example: The relationship between Keisuke and Yu was clearly meant to be Yaoi. One-sided or not, changing Keisukes gender would automatically change this aspect of the game.
Similarly, many scenes between Chitose and Keisuke wouldn't work if Keisuke could be played as a female.
Keisuke being somewhat flirty with the females (and/or Yu, depending on your choices) is also pretty important to his character.
In short:
If they made a female version of Keisuke, a whole lot about the story would require rewritting.
@@tadaokou4919I mean what's wrong with the female protag being the one being flirty to girls and then having that kind of relation to Yuu? It would need re-writting, relationships are the same regardless of gender
@@alex-8736 "relationships are the same regardless of gender."
If you actually believe that you live in a fantasy world.
But besides that, the goal with the relationship between Yu and Keisuke was pretty clear. It's Yaoi.
A change in character would result in a change in genre which is not what the devs had in mind. Yaoi is not Yuri. Yuri was not the goal of the game and the amount of rewriting just to make Keisuke female is tremendous.
And for what? Just so people can say "I can see myself in this character because I got tits and she got tits"? Normal people can see themself in a fictional character regardless of gender, race or anything else. The fictional character only needs to be written well and needs to have relatable struggles/characteristics.
The gender of fictional characters is only a really big deal for people who spent their time on Twitter 24/7.
@@tadaokou4919 I'm sorry but if you think gay and lesbian relationships are called yaoi and Yuri (which btw are manga terms that aren't used anymore) it's just clear that you aren't very bright
Ah, I played this game last year.
Its a great game but the ending gave me depression for a month.
Ik im late but can i just say how happy I am we don't have a silent protagonist this time. Like it drives me up a wall when a game with a story has a silent protagonist with the only reason being "its supposed to be your story"
What’s the name of the ost used at the beginning and end of the video? I really loved this review of hackers memory. This is personally one of my top favorite jrpgs of all time with its character driven story telling, the ending made me cry and touched my heart. I’ll never forget the experience of Hackers Memory and I wish that someday it’s popularity will grow stronger. I barely know anyone that’s ever played this game so I say hello to all you fans out there. ^^
the music used at the beginning and end is digimon world 3 -East and South Station-.
thank you so much and its always good to see another Hackers fan out there.
@@BobbyHopp you’re very welcome! ^^
Digimon always have the best character writing
I find hackers memory better than Pokémon in a way. Also I’m someone who has hackers memory before cyber sleuth.
U do some pretty good reviews I am loving them so far
ill try and keep making more then thank you!
I am more of a Pokemon guy but
This game is great!!!
THIS is the Digimon game to play and will be THE Digimon game to play for a long time or at least until the next Cyber Sleuth title.
The next digimon title will very likely be a new Story title because unless something changes, Sleuth is over.
@@BobbyHopp Well even if it's not a Cyber Sleuth title, I am assuming it will still use the same formula as Cyber Sleuth when it comes to combat and gameplay. I would be surprised if they use Digimon Survive's style of gameplay and combat because so far it's been polarizing.
i still want Gundramon
We need Cyber sleuth 2. Survive was kinda on the fence for me.
the next digimon game will be a new story title in a new setting.
Was making a new game + run when I saw this and let me say hackers memory is my favorite digimon game and I played them all from the ds story, dawn/dusk games to digimon world 1-4, saver, etc this game is the one that holds my heart and I wish they continue the cyber sleuth series or at least the genre. I kinda hated the survive one based on its light novel story and evolutions based on choices thing. It's story just doesn't make a lick of sense especially when compared to hacker's memory please let there be more like this game
I really enjoy Hacker's Memory over Cyber Sleuth. I enjoyed the pacing and the characters and seeing further development of some of the side characters and even main cast of the last game made it much more enjoyable.
My only problem is that Cyber Sleuth's story actually made Hacker's Memory worse for me due to the ending.
A gem? I cried like a little bitch seeing the ending. This game is the whole rare gem mine.
This game was so emotionally overwhelming sometimes lol
Yeah but I love that ngl
If I'm counting correctly I think all 7 Vita owners commented on this video
Beautiful
Your last video gave me the urge to play this series again and I just got to the halfway point in CS.
I think I ended up preferring HM as well!
Bro Yu’s whole story with the MC is really sad and I’m kinda upset they didn’t fully realize it and backtracked on any gayness right at the end
most recent game to make me cry and laugh all at the same time, God I love digimon
my biggest regret was not recording when chitose threw wormon bc that shit was gold and woulda been so good in the video
nice timing on the upload.
Did they rebalance anything in sleuth? Cuz when like 2 digimon have defense ignore moves they dwarf all the fusion etc. digimon
Omnimon and Omnimon Zwart got buffed. Supreme Cannon used to do 130ish Water Damage. Now its an INT-Penetrating Strong Skill. Zwart abuses it better.
Chaosmon VA knowing Mach Rush 3 helps with Farming. Pair with 2 PlatinumNumemon for EXP or 2 PrinceMamemon for YEN.
Mastemons 25% Chip Special Move is still good vs Hard Mode Bosses.
Alphamon Ouryuken is broken. DEF-Pierce Extra Strong skill. Toptier support skill. Also helps Ouryumons who evolution line is toptier for in game playthough with low requirements. Ouryumon itself is fine to stop on.
Susanomon is tanky and has a good support skill. Can function as glue. Same for Imperialdramon DM/FM.
Examon is a downgrade compared to Slayerdramon. Not worth.
Chaosmon regular is garbo. INT-Pierce on a mon with low INT.
Its a mixed bag.