I never really cared about "why" Arkadimon was sealed in Under Zero, but it does explain why Knightmon was there knocking out everyone that tried to open the "Pandora's Box". His role is sorta similar to V-Tamer's, as a anomaly in an already chaotic world, so I guess it was more of a little fanservice/reference to the fans that already knew about how dangerous that thing was supposed to be in the story it came from. **Spoilers** The most heartbreaking part of the game is when you realize that Erika wasn't proven wrong on her insecurities in the end. The lives of everyone directly around her were straight up better in the world everyone forgot she existed.
One thing I love about this game is the fact it remains open while the Switch is in sleep mode, so I have like 30k hours on this game just because I don't close games I'm currently going through
I only had apocalyptic level threats in my party at the time like Megidramon, Lucemon, Dorugoramon, Blackwargreymon, Chaosmon and the sort. I don't think Hudiemon and the Digital World survived for a single week.😅
There is no doubt that Hacker's Memory is THE best Digimon Game, at least for me. I love Cyber Sleuth and Survive, but neither of them could make me CRY at the end.
The Eden’s Spot in Cyber Sleuth 1 was in the tv of the detective office. You don’t have to go to the fourth floor. It’s right there where you pick up missions
While I really do appreciate you pointing that out, especially when it was from a kind of embarrassing mistake, someone kinda beat you to the punch on pointing that out.
@@Berdomlikesgames Play Battle Spirit 1.5 And 2.0,And Digimon World DS/Dawn/Dusk!They Are Better Than Cyber Sleuth And Hacker's Memory!Chronomon Is Only In The DS Series!Holy Flare!Corona!Chrono DSR!
I honestly think that they purposely overshadowed the K line, and that was what sent Yu over the edge. Keisuke found something more important than his former life and was blazing a new, fulfilling trail. And I believe that character growth is exactly what was meant to be conveyed, a past full of dreams vs fullfilling future.
I disagree with some things about Yu (spoilers): It was important for none of the Hudie members to get too involved with it as a thematic message and to make a sincere stance towards their relationship. Yu was cooking up some edgy existentialism plot to yandere all over the MC, and Erika casually flips it over and never speaks of it again because she never HAS to. All the things happening in the world WERE more important than Yu's failed script, and it was his insistence to stay in that narrow viewpoint that kept him blind and a smallfry instead of the hero he wanted to be. Had even 2 people joined MC to tackle Yu, it would've been a beatdown, and MC chose not to because that wasn't the point. But yeah, that final dialogue choice reeks of "damnit we're not allowed to take it that far" and he could've had a bit more time to be helpful afterwards. Overall, Hacker's Memory is a great game that had like 90% of the time it needed to cook things, which is more than what most games get.
It's not pronounced as Hudie(Ha-Di), but as Hudie(Who-Di-Eh), which is the Chinese word for butterfly. And it's sort of on theme with the ending, with Erika turning into Hudiemon, a butterfly digimon.
It's also a shout out to the first Japanese Digimon Opening "Butterfly" especially the first line " I want to be a butterfly." And the fact they use Wormmon for it is a recall to Ken's Wormmon's sacrifice to stop Chimeramon.
Erina’s memory is now officially my favorite rpg area, that is a s tier example of environmental story tellings. Also i wholeheartedly agree, give the MC some voice lines and make him just have an arc with erin’s proper. Btw i love how the game just straight up drops the word “hey dumbass keisuke likes erina that way”
Really great video! I've played both games at least twice and HM's is definitely my favorite of the two. It really uses Cyber Sleuth as such a good jumping off point. And I love the relationship between Keisuke and Yuu. Keisuke isn't a perfect protagonist, but I like the sweet spot they hit between silent and him being his own character. Some people complained about the lack of a female protagonist but I think for story reasons it works well to keep Keisuke. Keep up the great work! Glad you had a better experience this go around.
A nice touch about the game is how everyone mentions how "plain" and "boring" Keisuke is, and this weaves into the reason why he can be in the Originals events without us seeing him, he's just that plain that no one notices him.
The "I love you. Lmao jk" moment is the worst thing in the whole fucking franchise. How dare they. I don't read fanfics but I've been told by fellow fans that there's a lot of them on AO3 specifically about removing the "gotcha" part of that scene.
5:45 YES. THANK YOU. OMG. As a fan of JRPGs it is so frustrating to have the genre be so held back by such a tired trope. Silent protags add little to no value to modern JRPGs. In fact, I'd say they're outright a detriment at this point. JRPGs with silent protags are already aging worse than those without, and it shows.
Kisuke, the MC that looks like he sold his soul years ago because his pupils and irises are pin pricks. I remember playing this on my Vita while I worked at Delta during my lunch breaks and my favorite Digimon was Neptunemon, the whole Duramon line, and little Lucemon. I didn't play the first, but I wasn't too lost on the story.
It's like Black and White 2 where it improves on everything the first game did, however this game goes even further with the story from the first game. I do agree that Erika was a fantastic character and the fact that she has Wormmon as a partner, Ken and his Wormmon would be happy. Still confused about how to feel about Hudiemon though but still a soild improvement to the first game..........Fingers Crossed we get more info on Digimon Story 6 aside from the guy who spearheaded the sereis left. Great job with the review!
Hacker's Memory is still the best Digimon game in my eyes. Looking forward until whenever Bandai decides to drop the next Cybersleuth themed deck for their TCG.
Hackers memory love solidarity! I adore this game so much and Hudie and its ending and it really feelsl ike Keisuke should have had more written dialogue. Im okay with Aiba being more of an insert but Keisuke just in his character animations and reactions had plenty of personality conveyed. Espicially when that little goof decides to do :3 faces. Also Betamon love for life!
I really wish the rerelease of complete addition transfered the QoL hacker skills to to CS. It's so hard to go back to CS without the increased walking speed
I feel like I know so many people who simply just play cyber sleuth, praise it, then never play Hackers that I always love to see a fellow Hackers enjoyer, ive played most of the digimon games and its by far my favorite of them all.
I definitely enjoyed hacker's memory more than cybersluthe, especially since they not only fixed the problems of the previous gane, but also hadded so many more digimon, allowing me to make a much more varied team. Seriously, what other game lets you use Belphemon as a partner.
Oh ok so I wasn't the only one who noticed Yu had an actual thing for the protag. I thought it was just an unhealthy relationship he had but he actually had a thing for him. And also the Arcadiamon thing i found it funny that it was guarded by only a Knightmon like just one Knightmon if i recall correctly it was Knightmon the previous protag had to fight. Something as scary as that shouldn't be guarded by just 1 Knightmon.
Bless you bud, this is a fantastic video and I couldn't agree with you more. The funny thing about Hackers Memory is I'm a Persona fan the amount parallels between this game and that series such as having a heavy emphasis on character establishment and investment, distinct core themes (in HM's case Memories) and having a story that really implements it's own psychological brand of story telling. It's the best Digimon game by a mile because this game went above and beyond to make me care about Hudie and especially about the games best girl, Erika who steals the show. I also like the fact our protagonist in this game displays genuine emotion and actively shows he cares about who he's fighting for.
As for why Arcadiamon was in under zero it's really funny because Cyber Sleuth much like Persona loves itself some religious symbology (Eater Eve, Eater Adam, Eden) and that goes for Arcadiamon as well or as I should use his JP name "Arkadimon". You may have remembered in the last game that his resting site was being guarded by A lone Knightmon who of course Digivolves in to Crusadermon. The whole arc seems to be a reference to the Knights Crusade and the Ark of the Covenant. Arcadiamon says one line when he awakens that being "Worlds Connected" seeming to suggest he needed that to occur to escape from his prison. I can't be sure as to the reason or means he was imprisoned to begin with though as the game doesn't really explore it sadly.
The "end" monitor has the sprites of your team? 20:03 I don't think I've seen the sprites for some of the newer mons in the series. Not gonna replay with a different team just because of this but it does seem neat
Hacker's Memory was my 1st Digimon game by accident. I intended to play the 1st Cyber Sleuth before playing Hacker's Memory, but the lady at the (now closed) Gamestop swapped it out with Hacker's Memory. I bought CS thru PSN a few days later.
Yeah.. Those extremely dark cases like the one about dolls - in first game, or the ones about students cheating on exam & also the one about the rare coffee fanatic -in this game, are CLEARLY showing how actually fcked up the world of those games actually is.. Like.. It is straight up dystopian cyberpunk level of batshit crazy & dark things what could actually happen with this level of technology available.. So, despite the games not really trying to LOOK like they have Cyberpunk setting (world looks relatively normal overall, kinda similar to the real world we are live in) yet somehow it IS still makes you creeped out by all those possibilities of some terrifying stuff what could be done with enough advanced technologies in hands...
Aside from Erika, I'll say that I overall prefer cyber sleuth's game/characters, something about seeing that cast kind of gives me pokemon black/white vibes with Cheren and Bianca and i like how the high staked plot went.
HM, having Hudie team interacting with each others gave them a bit more character compared to CS having most of the cast only to the Main character. Then HM having few life improvements, bigger roster and bosses more emotionally invested.
During those recent times, Digimon games, imho, are better than Pokemon. I played both the Cyber Sleuth games more than I do with Sword/Shield and Scarlet/Violet. And I enjoyed more as well.
This improved version of digimon game has successfully hacked into my memory and became a permanent part of it. I will never forget this game and I will never forget you, Erika.
Also part of team "CS:HM is the better of the two" lol. My biggest issues definitely also came from the Yu plotline though. Spoilers below for all of the game, not just the Yu plotline (also this got stupidly long because i am incapable of being anything but verbose) (i don't know how many lines it takes to get youtube to do "read more" on a comment) (hopefully this is enough though. if not i'll edit it) So like, following what you pointed out in your vid, the queerbaiting with Yu was extremely frustrating. Someone else in the comments mentioned that the fakeout is removed in a lot of fics for the game, and I definitely stand by that fandom decision. Bandai can take what was otherwise a really cute/awkward romance away from my cold, dead, hands. Also, though, I think the K/Yu/Matadormon thing is particularly frustrating to me for a nitpicky "representative resemblance," lacking of a better descriptor. I think it's extremely cool that we see multiple digimon in the game take control of or share body/mindspace with a human (there's a quest with what I think was a Greymon possessing a guy, and then the whole Arcadiamon plotline). Hudiemon becoming the gestalt of Erika and Wormmon is a very cool example of this to me, because it offers a positive version of this blurring between digimon/human and subsequent (if maybe unintentional) plurality. It isn't so much me having a problem with the Yu plotline for coming close to plurality, especially since the Hudiemon resolution gives us a less "murder alter" adjacent version, but a lack of diversity in the goals of these digimon/human possession situations. Hudiemon is like, the only one that isn't "Digimon steals a human to commit crimes and atrocities." Being fair, this probably isn't something most people will actively pick up on or have issues with the same way I do (I'm a system with DID, and really fascinated with this kind of plural-adjacency in media). Body sharing and plural adjacent tropes are surprisingly common in a lot of media (and also a lot of Digimon stories). It just annoys me on top of the way the story seems to disrespect Yu, is all. Again, Hudiemon at least got the assignment, especially with the lead up showing us how Wormmon slowly loses more and more of himself to Erika's memories (I believe the story even points out how he loses his accent as he accesses Erika's memories more often-- or, well, I'm pretty sure it does? I know I recognized a gradual shift in his accent as the story proceeded, I just can't remember when the story actually pointed it out since it's been a while). That said, still excited for Digimon Story "Iliad" (still unnamed, gosh darn it). Bandai, I am begging you for more info already (but I hope the cook is worth it). And most importantly, I'm glad you got a chance to play HM, and also glad you enjoyed it so much. :) I know in your CS vid you dropped references to Tamers and Savers (good taste! I say as a biased "Savers is my favorite" guy lol), so it probably isn't a surprise that you ended up enjoying a set of games that really felt like they borrowed so heavily from Tamers and Savers in their stories. Wish I could give you recs for other Digimon games to try out, but unfortunately most of what I've played outside of CS/HM are the now defunct mobile games, weird MMOs, and Dusk. I am so, so happy to finally be in an era of being a Digimon fan where we can expect the games to come out in my region though. (Again, Digimon Story "Iliad" news *when* Bandai?)
Now we just need to wait for Digimon Net Driver to release since official digimon games are not giving signals of being alive other than the card game.
true, while i play Cyber Sleuth was like awesome adventure, i dont really can put myself in MC shoes to have.... what its called again? Emersion? while playing Hacker memories i was really blown away. the sceen that hold in my memories was when our Digimon appear in real word for our calling and the Ending. i really infested to my Digimon to grow, build the as really preffect as i liking and they suddenly appear really bring me to tears. this is what i like about digimon game. and the ending also kinda bitter sweet like.... arrgghhhhh i know i want Keisuke to have more better ending but to suddely get stoped because Keisuke online side watcher not the MC in Cyber Slueth kinda put me in bummer mood. like i know He not Him but holy hell Keisuke doing alot here in Real Wold so while MC taking those eater thingie the earth is in save from the harm. and the ending my Digimon will become Erika Vanguard is really warm my heart. i mean take this Alphamon Onryuken, Susanoomon, Gallantmon Burst mode, Omnimon normal and Black, Lilithmon, Imperial Dramon and Marine angemon, i sure there is still more but thats only i remember. She would very save with all those Digimon becoming her Vanguard, but yea its still sad and the side quest/Mission really Distrubing too sometimes. i Think this is they realize that Digimon Fanbase kinda growup and can take those genre. Thats also why they release the Visual Novel SRPG Digimon Survive? and Digimon Ghost game anine. they really wanna test how much fan base could taken the distrubing Digimon effect on Human body. but yea i hope those release gonna be good for Cyber Slueth 2 if its really gonna release.
I played it right up to that one boss fight where its basically an auto loss if you dont have one specific mon and lost like, 6 hours worth of progress. Getting real sick and tired of games where team building is a selling point slapping in fights where you either completely give up the freedom to build your team how you want, or get stuck forever because you dont pass a random ass 'vibe check' they decided to slap you with. Couldnt be bothered to touch it again after that(Original Cyber Sleuth did something similar, but the game just makes you have one. Didnt even have to run it in your team for the fight, owning it got you pass that hurdle)
The humans are designed by the same person, so that makes sense. As for Arata though honestly yeah lol. You could have told me he was meant to visually be an alternate universe version of Hibiki, and I'd believe you.
I’m playing hackers memory before cyber sleuth. And one more thing, so I need to turn the game to hard mode to not be too easy but wouldn’t that make the game too hard???
Honestly the I love you gotcha moment really confused me. You look back at the first game and you notice just how LGBT inclusive the game was and you can even see a bit more of it here. So the fact they made that scene genuinely confused me as I honestly expected that they would let you choose reciprocate, Yu's feelings
At the very least, it could have been something like an "I love you but as a friend" moment instead of what we actually got, which was just a mean-spirited joke.
It's easily the worst dialogue option in the game and for it to given to you after arguably the worst boss fight to ever be conceived. It really felt like a final screw you from the game.
I bought a copy of the Complete Edition on Nintendo Switch for $23. The game is really enjoyable despite their flaws and it'll keep me busy while waiting for the new Story game centered around the Olympos XII. Though, I finished Hacker's Memory first cause Arkadimon is one of my favorite digimon of all time.
I played cyber sleuth and, while I thought the gameplay was cool, the side quest and how slow and boring the visual novels were, made me quit it half way, kinda sad, because I wanted to play for the gameplay and have some cool digimons. now that I saw this video, I kinda want to finish it just so I can play hackers memories
Thanks for the appreciation, it is one of my favourite games ever, the changes they made are great. I enjoyed it more than the first one, I'm guessing it is because of how much more enjoyable the characters are ❤. Loved being part of the B squad.
These 2 games are my favourite digimon games and are up there in my top RPGs of all time the feeling of progression and all the different digimon feels great for advancement throughout the game
Double comment but what if Yu attacks the guys during a major case and this make Ryuji angry at Keisuke for not telling them about K before, trying to divide them, and then let the game actually end with the two getting together in the new timeline, meaning that in the end Yu didn’t need to be stronger because he was enough for Keisuke, especially in a world where he didn’t need to make the choice between Yu and Erika who Keisuke clearly had feelings for both of
With the digimon liberators manga releasing and apparently being very good how would you feel if the next digimon story game was a tie in to liberators ? Having card game mechanics along side the normal digimon raising
@@Berdomlikesgames I wonder how it would work. I haven't yet read the manga ( definitely plan to) Raise a specific Digimon and get a card of them, do a characters side quest and get their tamer card. No clue how option cards would would though
Digimon World 3's card game was so good as a side game that a lot of people still want it as a standalone game. While the current Digimon tcg is way different, having the tcg in game would help Digimon as a whole a lot. The dw3 card game fans might get intrigued and play it while people who wouldn't usually play any card games can get some experience with the tcg. All in all only positives imo.
That's funny, I just read a post on how Cyber Sleuth and Hackers Memory are the most overrated Digimon games ever XD. Your previous video made me go back to Cyber Sleuth, I stopped playing because I was stuck on the Jimiken boss fight and now I'm even more motivated to play it (even if it'll take a while) to get to Hackers Memory.
"Sequel but it take place at the same time" So it isn't sequel. I have seen someone on reddit it's saying it's parallel story. Which I myself not sure but I guess it close what it is.
The ONLY DOWNSIDE to this game was you didn't have Outfit options. In the Beginning of the Game you have the White and Lavender Drip. (matched with Chaosgallentmon, lilithmon, and Lucemom Dragon Mode)
As a gay guy, having the "I love you" option being treated as a joke really frustrated me on multiple levels. Fei and Yu both being gay is a nice bit of representation, but the plausible denialability by not having the game say it outright. Not in a "I'm gay!" But let the moment play through without a joke. While I find it important to use gendered language when dealing with LGBT characters, a step forward is having characters say "This is my partner." Fei and Yuuko got that, let the guys get one too.
Adding to my own comment I think the idea of the gotcha is to focus on the MCs attraction to Erika as she's set up to be the love interest. I just wish we could have had the option to say yes to Yu and have cute romantic dialogue in the optional domination battles
I have to say, I did not like the dominance battles. The battle system itself is already pretty basic, like FF1 level of basic. It gets fully carried by the insane quantity of digimon and the constant digivolving to get fresh air into your party. Since each fight in a dominance battle is only a single round, it simplified the combat even more since status effects and buff/debuffs became meaningless. On top, the "alternative win condition" of taking enough checkpoints is mostly irrelevant as well(depending on the map). The AI will never leave a spot if its in a losing position, so in the end it boils down to "beat all enemies" like every other fight. Most maps don't even let you surround enemies so you can attack with multiple characters instead of 1v1 each hacker. And while the dungeons improved visually, the hallways are also very outdated leveldesign. But besides that, I fully agree with you. The story and most importantly its characters are so good. Its easily the best digimon game, but to be honest, there isn't THAT much competition^^
Definitely agree that if there is any complexity to the combat in HM, it's in building your strat rather than executing it. Dominance battles definitely needed more time in the oven.
I still like the previous one more mainly cause you could play as a girl. I get they removed the option so you can play as a specific person instead of a self insert but i prefer being myself honestly
Its really obvious that K is actually Yu(observed by the coat they wear) but the reveal that Matadormon manipulating Yu is such a letdown and really anti-climatic.
i still prefer cyber sleuth more honestly myself, if only because I was hoping this game was going to be an actual sequel, rather than an interquel, now I will agree they did fix some things and add improvements, but I just personally feel that Cyber Sleuth in terms of story was a fresher take, which I kind of prefer overall. I also kind of wish they gave us the option to have gender options for the MC rather than locking it down to being only a male, granted that could be blamed on Erika and Yu in the story since I don't think a girl would've worked as well with how they were written, and needing an electric type digimon for that one dungeon I felt was kind of stupid too. And thanks to the "complete edition" on the switch, they did rework how some digimon were obtained in cyber sleuth like in hacker's memory in terms of how you could get them more effectively and earlier, and you could send digimon between them after completing each game once, so you could take digimon from hacker's memory and use them in Cyber Sleuth and vice versa. Also...what is digimon story 6?
Uh....I have to say this. In the first Cyber Sleuth, you can use Kyoko's TV to enter Eden. That was my main way.
Thank you for pointing that out! That's my bad for not realizing you could do that again after the first time.
@@Berdomlikesgames no prob. I get why you might think it was a one time thing. You no longer look like data after that afterall
im so glad someone else mentioned this
I heard that and as well went "But the TV is in the office" 😂
I HAVE PLAYED THIS GAME 5 TIMES!!! AND I DIDN'T KNOW THAT???
I never really cared about "why" Arkadimon was sealed in Under Zero, but it does explain why Knightmon was there knocking out everyone that tried to open the "Pandora's Box". His role is sorta similar to V-Tamer's, as a anomaly in an already chaotic world, so I guess it was more of a little fanservice/reference to the fans that already knew about how dangerous that thing was supposed to be in the story it came from.
**Spoilers**
The most heartbreaking part of the game is when you realize that Erika wasn't proven wrong on her insecurities in the end. The lives of everyone directly around her were straight up better in the world everyone forgot she existed.
😭
Fun fact about Hackers Memory, the beelzemon you team up with in the game is the same one from the deadly digimon missions in Cyber Sleuth Post game
Bruh, I beat that Beelzemon without it even getting an attack on my team. Even though it has a second form, it never had a second phase.
One thing I love about this game is the fact it remains open while the Switch is in sleep mode, so I have like 30k hours on this game just because I don't close games I'm currently going through
This made farm levelling so much easier and saved me so much time😭
all emotional moments went out the window when Hudiemon was surrounded with nothing but my lilithmons when i reached the ending lol
I only had apocalyptic level threats in my party at the time like Megidramon, Lucemon, Dorugoramon, Blackwargreymon, Chaosmon and the sort. I don't think Hudiemon and the Digital World survived for a single week.😅
Royal Knights for me
There is no doubt that Hacker's Memory is THE best Digimon Game, at least for me.
I love Cyber Sleuth and Survive, but neither of them could make me CRY at the end.
The Eden’s Spot in Cyber Sleuth 1 was in the tv of the detective office. You don’t have to go to the fourth floor. It’s right there where you pick up missions
While I really do appreciate you pointing that out, especially when it was from a kind of embarrassing mistake, someone kinda beat you to the punch on pointing that out.
@@Berdomlikesgames Play Battle Spirit 1.5 And 2.0,And Digimon World DS/Dawn/Dusk!They Are Better Than Cyber Sleuth And Hacker's Memory!Chronomon Is Only In The DS Series!Holy Flare!Corona!Chrono DSR!
This was a masterpiece of a game and it outdoes the original in every way. I pray we get a new game down the line.
I honestly think that they purposely overshadowed the K line, and that was what sent Yu over the edge.
Keisuke found something more important than his former life and was blazing a new, fulfilling trail.
And I believe that character growth is exactly what was meant to be conveyed, a past full of dreams vs fullfilling future.
Not gonna lie, that's a very interesting way to look at it!
I disagree with some things about Yu (spoilers):
It was important for none of the Hudie members to get too involved with it as a thematic message and to make a sincere stance towards their relationship. Yu was cooking up some edgy existentialism plot to yandere all over the MC, and Erika casually flips it over and never speaks of it again because she never HAS to. All the things happening in the world WERE more important than Yu's failed script, and it was his insistence to stay in that narrow viewpoint that kept him blind and a smallfry instead of the hero he wanted to be. Had even 2 people joined MC to tackle Yu, it would've been a beatdown, and MC chose not to because that wasn't the point.
But yeah, that final dialogue choice reeks of "damnit we're not allowed to take it that far" and he could've had a bit more time to be helpful afterwards.
Overall, Hacker's Memory is a great game that had like 90% of the time it needed to cook things, which is more than what most games get.
Hacker's Memory ending to this day, still brings me pain.
It's not pronounced as Hudie(Ha-Di), but as Hudie(Who-Di-Eh), which is the Chinese word for butterfly. And it's sort of on theme with the ending, with Erika turning into Hudiemon, a butterfly digimon.
Similarly, Keisuke's name is pronounced "Kay-su-kay" Which is why 'K' fits
It's also a shout out to the first Japanese Digimon Opening "Butterfly" especially the first line " I want to be a butterfly."
And the fact they use Wormmon for it is a recall to Ken's Wormmon's sacrifice to stop Chimeramon.
Erina’s memory is now officially my favorite rpg area, that is a s tier example of environmental story tellings. Also i wholeheartedly agree, give the MC some voice lines and make him just have an arc with erin’s proper. Btw i love how the game just straight up drops the word “hey dumbass keisuke likes erina that way”
Really great video! I've played both games at least twice and HM's is definitely my favorite of the two. It really uses Cyber Sleuth as such a good jumping off point.
And I love the relationship between Keisuke and Yuu. Keisuke isn't a perfect protagonist, but I like the sweet spot they hit between silent and him being his own character. Some people complained about the lack of a female protagonist but I think for story reasons it works well to keep Keisuke.
Keep up the great work! Glad you had a better experience this go around.
A nice touch about the game is how everyone mentions how "plain" and "boring" Keisuke is, and this weaves into the reason why he can be in the Originals events without us seeing him, he's just that plain that no one notices him.
17:21 Bring Sistermon Blanc, she in either her base or awakened form should have an effect that blocks negative status ailments.
And now i need to replay Digimon story Cyber Sleuth and Hackers memory again.
The "I love you. Lmao jk" moment is the worst thing in the whole fucking franchise. How dare they. I don't read fanfics but I've been told by fellow fans that there's a lot of them on AO3 specifically about removing the "gotcha" part of that scene.
Honestly, I really wish I knew what made the writers think the I love you line was a good idea.
I loved the Digimon Cybersleuth games. Hacker's Memory was fantastic. I hope we get a new one soon.
Definitely my favorite Digimon game. Can’t wait for the next game, hopefully soon
Arkadymon has also an official brief appearance in Digimon Xross Wars as one of Lilithmon’s henchemen. 18:27
5:45
YES. THANK YOU. OMG.
As a fan of JRPGs it is so frustrating to have the genre be so held back by such a tired trope. Silent protags add little to no value to modern JRPGs. In fact, I'd say they're outright a detriment at this point. JRPGs with silent protags are already aging worse than those without, and it shows.
Kisuke, the MC that looks like he sold his soul years ago because his pupils and irises are pin pricks.
I remember playing this on my Vita while I worked at Delta during my lunch breaks and my favorite Digimon was Neptunemon, the whole Duramon line, and little Lucemon. I didn't play the first, but I wasn't too lost on the story.
what isnt this game like 8 years ago lol holy shit time flies
It's like Black and White 2 where it improves on everything the first game did, however this game goes even further with the story from the first game. I do agree that Erika was a fantastic character and the fact that she has Wormmon as a partner, Ken and his Wormmon would be happy. Still confused about how to feel about Hudiemon though but still a soild improvement to the first game..........Fingers Crossed we get more info on Digimon Story 6 aside from the guy who spearheaded the sereis left. Great job with the review!
Omnimon, Gallantmon, Mastemon and the Burst Mode Digimon were standing around Hudimon with my group, plus another I can't remember.
Hacker's Memory is still the best Digimon game in my eyes. Looking forward until whenever Bandai decides to drop the next Cybersleuth themed deck for their TCG.
Still haven’t recovered from the ending.
Hackers memory love solidarity! I adore this game so much and Hudie and its ending and it really feelsl ike Keisuke should have had more written dialogue. Im okay with Aiba being more of an insert but Keisuke just in his character animations and reactions had plenty of personality conveyed. Espicially when that little goof decides to do :3 faces.
Also Betamon love for life!
Hands down one of the most underrated games of all time!
I really wish the rerelease of complete addition transfered the QoL hacker skills to to CS. It's so hard to go back to CS without the increased walking speed
9:53 Wait, Wait, Wait?! Did you not just use the TV in the agency to dive into Eden?
Up until a recent comment, I legitimately didn't realize I could honestly.
I feel like I know so many people who simply just play cyber sleuth, praise it, then never play Hackers that I always love to see a fellow Hackers enjoyer, ive played most of the digimon games and its by far my favorite of them all.
I definitely enjoyed hacker's memory more than cybersluthe, especially since they not only fixed the problems of the previous gane, but also hadded so many more digimon, allowing me to make a much more varied team. Seriously, what other game lets you use Belphemon as a partner.
17:10 *looks at panic barrier and panic barrier DX*
Great vid but man do you really need to end the vid with erika memory im crying again
My man had blocked out cheat strategie, and until you mentioned it again, I hadn't thought about it anymore. Now My stomach hurts
This is a Digimon game that Pokémon fans would like
I still cry from it.
Oh ok so I wasn't the only one who noticed Yu had an actual thing for the protag. I thought it was just an unhealthy relationship he had but he actually had a thing for him.
And also the Arcadiamon thing i found it funny that it was guarded by only a Knightmon like just one Knightmon if i recall correctly it was Knightmon the previous protag had to fight. Something as scary as that shouldn't be guarded by just 1 Knightmon.
accurately, Arkadimon, the data-sucking digimon, in his debut appearance, V-tamers soloed an injured mega on his rookie leveol, so that check out
Bless you bud, this is a fantastic video and I couldn't agree with you more. The funny thing about Hackers Memory is I'm a Persona fan the amount parallels between this game and that series such as having a heavy emphasis on character establishment and investment, distinct core themes (in HM's case Memories) and having a story that really implements it's own psychological brand of story telling. It's the best Digimon game by a mile because this game went above and beyond to make me care about Hudie and especially about the games best girl, Erika who steals the show. I also like the fact our protagonist in this game displays genuine emotion and actively shows he cares about who he's fighting for.
As for why Arcadiamon was in under zero it's really funny because Cyber Sleuth much like Persona loves itself some religious symbology (Eater Eve, Eater Adam, Eden) and that goes for Arcadiamon as well or as I should use his JP name "Arkadimon". You may have remembered in the last game that his resting site was being guarded by A lone Knightmon who of course Digivolves in to Crusadermon. The whole arc seems to be a reference to the Knights Crusade and the Ark of the Covenant.
Arcadiamon says one line when he awakens that being "Worlds Connected" seeming to suggest he needed that to occur to escape from his prison. I can't be sure as to the reason or means he was imprisoned to begin with though as the game doesn't really explore it sadly.
The "end" monitor has the sprites of your team? 20:03 I don't think I've seen the sprites for some of the newer mons in the series. Not gonna replay with a different team just because of this but it does seem neat
You get the sprite version of all the Digimon if you get the dotted status
@@SensesEU huh how have I not noticed that. Maybe I did and just forgot. Thanks!
Excellent video! Makes me happy to see I'm not the only one making content for these games
Hacker's Memory was my 1st Digimon game by accident. I intended to play the 1st Cyber Sleuth before playing Hacker's Memory, but the lady at the (now closed) Gamestop swapped it out with Hacker's Memory. I bought CS thru PSN a few days later.
Yeah.. Those extremely dark cases like the one about dolls - in first game, or the ones about students cheating on exam & also the one about the rare coffee fanatic -in this game, are CLEARLY showing how actually fcked up the world of those games actually is.. Like.. It is straight up dystopian cyberpunk level of batshit crazy & dark things what could actually happen with this level of technology available.. So, despite the games not really trying to LOOK like they have Cyberpunk setting (world looks relatively normal overall, kinda similar to the real world we are live in) yet somehow it IS still makes you creeped out by all those possibilities of some terrifying stuff what could be done with enough advanced technologies in hands...
I love these games but haven’t beaten memory yet, exited to finish it
Hackers memory came out 6 years ago???
Brb, I’m booking a room at an elderly home
Aside from Erika, I'll say that I overall prefer cyber sleuth's game/characters, something about seeing that cast kind of gives me pokemon black/white vibes with Cheren and Bianca and i like how the high staked plot went.
cajolery can be prevented by equiping confusion immune gear.
This was my favorite too. wish it lasted longer.
Hacker's Memory is also my favorite!
Question of The Video: Which Cyber Sleuth Game do you prefer and why?
HM, having Hudie team interacting with each others gave them a bit more character compared to CS having most of the cast only to the Main character.
Then HM having few life improvements, bigger roster and bosses more emotionally invested.
I really cried at the end 🙈
I like this even more than Pokemon, great video
Great job
During those recent times, Digimon games, imho, are better than Pokemon. I played both the Cyber Sleuth games more than I do with Sword/Shield and Scarlet/Violet. And I enjoyed more as well.
Seems like a you problem
Best game in franchise is def Next order
I'm making sure that Erika is going to have the most overpower team of Digimons.
This improved version of digimon game has successfully hacked into my memory and became a permanent part of it. I will never forget this game and I will never forget you, Erika.
Also part of team "CS:HM is the better of the two" lol. My biggest issues definitely also came from the Yu plotline though.
Spoilers below for all of the game, not just the Yu plotline
(also this got stupidly long because i am incapable of being anything but verbose)
(i don't know how many lines it takes to get youtube to do "read more" on a comment)
(hopefully this is enough though. if not i'll edit it)
So like, following what you pointed out in your vid, the queerbaiting with Yu was extremely frustrating. Someone else in the comments mentioned that the fakeout is removed in a lot of fics for the game, and I definitely stand by that fandom decision. Bandai can take what was otherwise a really cute/awkward romance away from my cold, dead, hands.
Also, though, I think the K/Yu/Matadormon thing is particularly frustrating to me for a nitpicky "representative resemblance," lacking of a better descriptor. I think it's extremely cool that we see multiple digimon in the game take control of or share body/mindspace with a human (there's a quest with what I think was a Greymon possessing a guy, and then the whole Arcadiamon plotline). Hudiemon becoming the gestalt of Erika and Wormmon is a very cool example of this to me, because it offers a positive version of this blurring between digimon/human and subsequent (if maybe unintentional) plurality. It isn't so much me having a problem with the Yu plotline for coming close to plurality, especially since the Hudiemon resolution gives us a less "murder alter" adjacent version, but a lack of diversity in the goals of these digimon/human possession situations. Hudiemon is like, the only one that isn't "Digimon steals a human to commit crimes and atrocities."
Being fair, this probably isn't something most people will actively pick up on or have issues with the same way I do (I'm a system with DID, and really fascinated with this kind of plural-adjacency in media). Body sharing and plural adjacent tropes are surprisingly common in a lot of media (and also a lot of Digimon stories). It just annoys me on top of the way the story seems to disrespect Yu, is all. Again, Hudiemon at least got the assignment, especially with the lead up showing us how Wormmon slowly loses more and more of himself to Erika's memories (I believe the story even points out how he loses his accent as he accesses Erika's memories more often-- or, well, I'm pretty sure it does? I know I recognized a gradual shift in his accent as the story proceeded, I just can't remember when the story actually pointed it out since it's been a while).
That said, still excited for Digimon Story "Iliad" (still unnamed, gosh darn it). Bandai, I am begging you for more info already (but I hope the cook is worth it).
And most importantly, I'm glad you got a chance to play HM, and also glad you enjoyed it so much. :) I know in your CS vid you dropped references to Tamers and Savers (good taste! I say as a biased "Savers is my favorite" guy lol), so it probably isn't a surprise that you ended up enjoying a set of games that really felt like they borrowed so heavily from Tamers and Savers in their stories. Wish I could give you recs for other Digimon games to try out, but unfortunately most of what I've played outside of CS/HM are the now defunct mobile games, weird MMOs, and Dusk. I am so, so happy to finally be in an era of being a Digimon fan where we can expect the games to come out in my region though.
(Again, Digimon Story "Iliad" news *when* Bandai?)
I can't wait for the Next Story Game
I do Hope They Bring new Digimon (obviously)
like The Ghost Game Partners i really Hope they bring them in!
Aesthetic screams Soul Hackers, characters design screams Devil Survivor especially OverClock
Now we just need to wait for Digimon Net Driver to release since official digimon games are not giving signals of being alive other than the card game.
bring out more digimon world
true, while i play Cyber Sleuth was like awesome adventure, i dont really can put myself in MC shoes to have.... what its called again? Emersion? while playing Hacker memories i was really blown away. the sceen that hold in my memories was when our Digimon appear in real word for our calling and the Ending. i really infested to my Digimon to grow, build the as really preffect as i liking and they suddenly appear really bring me to tears. this is what i like about digimon game. and the ending also kinda bitter sweet like.... arrgghhhhh i know i want Keisuke to have more better ending but to suddely get stoped because Keisuke online side watcher not the MC in Cyber Slueth kinda put me in bummer mood. like i know He not Him but holy hell Keisuke doing alot here in Real Wold so while MC taking those eater thingie the earth is in save from the harm. and the ending my Digimon will become Erika Vanguard is really warm my heart. i mean take this Alphamon Onryuken, Susanoomon, Gallantmon Burst mode, Omnimon normal and Black, Lilithmon, Imperial Dramon and Marine angemon, i sure there is still more but thats only i remember.
She would very save with all those Digimon becoming her Vanguard, but yea its still sad and the side quest/Mission really Distrubing too sometimes. i Think this is they realize that Digimon Fanbase kinda growup and can take those genre. Thats also why they release the Visual Novel SRPG Digimon Survive? and Digimon Ghost game anine. they really wanna test how much fan base could taken the distrubing Digimon effect on Human body. but yea i hope those release gonna be good for Cyber Slueth 2 if its really gonna release.
I played it right up to that one boss fight where its basically an auto loss if you dont have one specific mon and lost like, 6 hours worth of progress.
Getting real sick and tired of games where team building is a selling point slapping in fights where you either completely give up the freedom to build your team how you want, or get stuck forever because you dont pass a random ass 'vibe check' they decided to slap you with.
Couldnt be bothered to touch it again after that(Original Cyber Sleuth did something similar, but the game just makes you have one. Didnt even have to run it in your team for the fight, owning it got you pass that hurdle)
Never played it, great video.
The Humans in this look like they're from Devil Survivor hell this guy 0:02
Looks like an Angry Hibiki Kuze from Devil Survivor 2
The humans are designed by the same person, so that makes sense. As for Arata though honestly yeah lol. You could have told me he was meant to visually be an alternate universe version of Hibiki, and I'd believe you.
@@Berdomlikesgames Really, I didn't know the same character designer worked on these games. I actually like the designs too.
I’m playing hackers memory before cyber sleuth. And one more thing, so I need to turn the game to hard mode to not be too easy but wouldn’t that make the game too hard???
Was 40% into the game and stopped playing it because the grinding was so boring. I could play it again after this video.
Honestly the I love you gotcha moment really confused me. You look back at the first game and you notice just how LGBT inclusive the game was and you can even see a bit more of it here. So the fact they made that scene genuinely confused me as I honestly expected that they would let you choose reciprocate, Yu's feelings
At the very least, it could have been something like an "I love you but as a friend" moment instead of what we actually got, which was just a mean-spirited joke.
It's easily the worst dialogue option in the game and for it to given to you after arguably the worst boss fight to ever be conceived. It really felt like a final screw you from the game.
I bought a copy of the Complete Edition on Nintendo Switch for $23.
The game is really enjoyable despite their flaws and it'll keep me busy while waiting for the new Story game centered around the Olympos XII.
Though, I finished Hacker's Memory first cause Arkadimon is one of my favorite digimon of all time.
I played cyber sleuth and, while I thought the gameplay was cool, the side quest and how slow and boring the visual novels were, made me quit it half way, kinda sad, because I wanted to play for the gameplay and have some cool digimons.
now that I saw this video, I kinda want to finish it just so I can play hackers memories
Thanks for the appreciation, it is one of my favourite games ever, the changes they made are great. I enjoyed it more than the first one, I'm guessing it is because of how much more enjoyable the characters are ❤. Loved being part of the B squad.
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Ah yes. The Persona style dating sim with Renamon that a specific section of the fanbase has been wanting for years.
These 2 games are my favourite digimon games and are up there in my top RPGs of all time the feeling of progression and all the different digimon feels great for advancement throughout the game
Double comment but what if Yu attacks the guys during a major case and this make Ryuji angry at Keisuke for not telling them about K before, trying to divide them, and then let the game actually end with the two getting together in the new timeline, meaning that in the end Yu didn’t need to be stronger because he was enough for Keisuke, especially in a world where he didn’t need to make the choice between Yu and Erika who Keisuke clearly had feelings for both of
i wonder if eater eden was also meant to look a bit like a tree, *as well as* a brain. like... there's already so many biblical references, why not
Digimon >>>> Pokemon
A fantastic video, mate. I am also super keen for the next game too. I love the Olympos 12 and so excited we are getting a game based around them!
So you can transfer the spirits of Fire and Light into a new game of base Cyber Sleuth along with the ability to use Arcadiamon
With the digimon liberators manga releasing and apparently being very good how would you feel if the next digimon story game was a tie in to liberators ? Having card game mechanics along side the normal digimon raising
I'd be down for that! Honestly, I've been really interested in trying out the card game for a while.
@@Berdomlikesgames I wonder how it would work.
I haven't yet read the manga ( definitely plan to)
Raise a specific Digimon and get a card of them, do a characters side quest and get their tamer card. No clue how option cards would would though
Digimon World 3's card game was so good as a side game that a lot of people still want it as a standalone game. While the current Digimon tcg is way different, having the tcg in game would help Digimon as a whole a lot. The dw3 card game fans might get intrigued and play it while people who wouldn't usually play any card games can get some experience with the tcg. All in all only positives imo.
Its been so long i might replay especially since i forgot most of the plot because its been so long
Great video man. Would love to see a longer version.
That's funny, I just read a post on how Cyber Sleuth and Hackers Memory are the most overrated Digimon games ever XD.
Your previous video made me go back to Cyber Sleuth, I stopped playing because I was stuck on the Jimiken boss fight and now I'm even more motivated to play it (even if it'll take a while) to get to Hackers Memory.
"Sequel but it take place at the same time"
So it isn't sequel. I have seen someone on reddit it's saying it's parallel story. Which I myself not sure but I guess it close what it is.
Something funny is that i always use k as my character name so you can imagine the confusion that created.
Great video. Pretty sure it’s pronounced “Who-Dee”
I love that there are more hacker battles in hacker’s memory.
Same. Honestly, cybersleuth really didn’t have enough in the way of battles with hackers.
I would really love for a third Digimon story cybersleuth game
nah it's not that the mc dosent talk he just communicates like silent Bob
The ONLY DOWNSIDE to this game was you didn't have Outfit options. In the Beginning of the Game you have the White and Lavender Drip. (matched with Chaosgallentmon, lilithmon, and Lucemom Dragon Mode)
You can buy clothes in Shinjuku
Yes, it's just t-shirts, but its something
And that starting option is just school uniform
As a gay guy, having the "I love you" option being treated as a joke really frustrated me on multiple levels.
Fei and Yu both being gay is a nice bit of representation, but the plausible denialability by not having the game say it outright.
Not in a "I'm gay!" But let the moment play through without a joke. While I find it important to use gendered language when dealing with LGBT characters, a step forward is having characters say "This is my partner." Fei and Yuuko got that, let the guys get one too.
Adding to my own comment I think the idea of the gotcha is to focus on the MCs attraction to Erika as she's set up to be the love interest.
I just wish we could have had the option to say yes to Yu and have cute romantic dialogue in the optional domination battles
I have to say, I did not like the dominance battles.
The battle system itself is already pretty basic, like FF1 level of basic. It gets fully carried by the insane quantity of digimon and the constant digivolving to get fresh air into your party.
Since each fight in a dominance battle is only a single round, it simplified the combat even more since status effects and buff/debuffs became meaningless.
On top, the "alternative win condition" of taking enough checkpoints is mostly irrelevant as well(depending on the map). The AI will never leave a spot if its in a losing position, so in the end it boils down to "beat all enemies" like every other fight. Most maps don't even let you surround enemies so you can attack with multiple characters instead of 1v1 each hacker.
And while the dungeons improved visually, the hallways are also very outdated leveldesign.
But besides that, I fully agree with you. The story and most importantly its characters are so good.
Its easily the best digimon game, but to be honest, there isn't THAT much competition^^
Honestly, that's all pretty fair.
Definitely agree that if there is any complexity to the combat in HM, it's in building your strat rather than executing it. Dominance battles definitely needed more time in the oven.
I still like the previous one more mainly cause you could play as a girl. I get they removed the option so you can play as a specific person instead of a self insert but i prefer being myself honestly
i think if they were gonna remove that option then the mc might as well have talked instead of being a self insert
Its really obvious that K is actually Yu(observed by the coat they wear) but the reveal that Matadormon manipulating Yu is such a letdown and really anti-climatic.
i still prefer cyber sleuth more honestly myself, if only because I was hoping this game was going to be an actual sequel, rather than an interquel, now I will agree they did fix some things and add improvements, but I just personally feel that Cyber Sleuth in terms of story was a fresher take, which I kind of prefer overall.
I also kind of wish they gave us the option to have gender options for the MC rather than locking it down to being only a male, granted that could be blamed on Erika and Yu in the story since I don't think a girl would've worked as well with how they were written, and needing an electric type digimon for that one dungeon I felt was kind of stupid too.
And thanks to the "complete edition" on the switch, they did rework how some digimon were obtained in cyber sleuth like in hacker's memory in terms of how you could get them more effectively and earlier, and you could send digimon between them after completing each game once, so you could take digimon from hacker's memory and use them in Cyber Sleuth and vice versa.
Also...what is digimon story 6?
Story summary spoiler:
Just spam X