Which would you recommend to get first, 2nd gale or 2nd clam? I know for burst and enmity people would say 2nd clam. I dont use enmity on wind tho, so no barred cc or shos.
2 charlotta if possible yes. I would say 2 eva 1 pns when running naru and not ewiyar (for the echo). 2 pns when running ewiyar or not running naru. beaks are situational, aka if you are running skill nukers or not (but ideally 2, yes).
for this fight or...? 1 eva alone is pretty worthless and you're capping the supplemental. the rest is probably "ok" but I'm not sure if it's worth investing into for now. Maybe get more weapons first.
Do you slot the weapon just for the cap up then? edit: nvm I just saw that it's still not capped on dmg supp. So with 2 daggers, we still keep the Evas anyway just for crit?
with 2 daggers, as ewiyar provides the passive echoes, I'll probably slot other weapons instead of evanescence yes. In other scenarios, it might be viable to do 1 dagger 2 eva like here. You lose 10k potential supp and 7% cap up but you gain crit and more skills for charlotta's swords.
Is it worth running Wind with no grid crit? Iirc grid crit is +50% dmg, losing it seems a bit extreme. 100k supplemental, the voltage EX and 14% cap up seems like a weak trade off for crit. I'm trying to understand how to build around it in case I happen to land them.
@@araragisenpai4088 Capping is a non issue nowadays, while wind is currently facing a grid space problem. So, maxing the supplemental with 2 weapons vs 3 is a plus in my book. It lets me slot something else while getting more cap up at the same time. Like you said, crit is "only" 50% damage. For comparison sake: A single vortex is 74% in double zeph. Adding a second one is roughly another 42% increase, it pretty much offset what you lost. And I'm not even talking about resonator weapons which are even better.
@@Mizako Thank you for the insight. If I happen to get them, I'll replace my Evas then. I was gonna spark a 3rd one eventually but it looks like it's not necessary anymore. I happened to get 2 resonator, so I only have to get 2 daggers then.
@@araragisenpai4088 yeah I don't see 3 evas being very relevant in the future, although, with the ewiyar summon uncap, it will probably cap crit with just 3, so "maybe" in some very specific scenarios
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PS: yes the charm echo is the same type as naru's, so they don't stack
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Which would you recommend to get first, 2nd gale or 2nd clam? I know for burst and enmity people would say 2nd clam. I dont use enmity on wind tho, so no barred cc or shos.
probably 2nd gale if you're magna, 2nd clam if you're zeph.
You can make do "without" the 2nd in zeph, although you'll need it in the future.
@@Mizako basically, you will use all your team slots nowdays if you have Zeph, right?
@@FenLupimo not sure what you mean by team slots?
How does new zephyr looks like with wind pns? 2 pns, 2 Charlotte, 2 beaks? What about vortex and the awakening grand?
2 charlotta if possible yes.
I would say 2 eva 1 pns when running naru and not ewiyar (for the echo).
2 pns when running ewiyar or not running naru.
beaks are situational, aka if you are running skill nukers or not (but ideally 2, yes).
What if i use 2 pns wind, 2 beaks, 1 eva, 1 reunion, 1 vortex, opus, seraph, ex mod
I dont have g charlotta wp
for this fight or...?
1 eva alone is pretty worthless and you're capping the supplemental.
the rest is probably "ok" but I'm not sure if it's worth investing into for now. Maybe get more weapons first.
@@Mizako for general run, ahh so i need at least 1 g charlotta or something?
Do you slot the weapon just for the cap up then?
edit: nvm I just saw that it's still not capped on dmg supp. So with 2 daggers, we still keep the Evas anyway just for crit?
with 2 daggers, as ewiyar provides the passive echoes, I'll probably slot other weapons instead of evanescence yes.
In other scenarios, it might be viable to do 1 dagger 2 eva like here. You lose 10k potential supp and 7% cap up but you gain crit and more skills for charlotta's swords.
Is it worth running Wind with no grid crit? Iirc grid crit is +50% dmg, losing it seems a bit extreme. 100k supplemental, the voltage EX and 14% cap up seems like a weak trade off for crit. I'm trying to understand how to build around it in case I happen to land them.
@@araragisenpai4088 Capping is a non issue nowadays, while wind is currently facing a grid space problem.
So, maxing the supplemental with 2 weapons vs 3 is a plus in my book. It lets me slot something else while getting more cap up at the same time.
Like you said, crit is "only" 50% damage.
For comparison sake: A single vortex is 74% in double zeph. Adding a second one is roughly another 42% increase, it pretty much offset what you lost. And I'm not even talking about resonator weapons which are even better.
@@Mizako Thank you for the insight. If I happen to get them, I'll replace my Evas then. I was gonna spark a 3rd one eventually but it looks like it's not necessary anymore. I happened to get 2 resonator, so I only have to get 2 daggers then.
@@araragisenpai4088 yeah I don't see 3 evas being very relevant in the future, although, with the ewiyar summon uncap, it will probably cap crit with just 3, so "maybe" in some very specific scenarios
Will you trade for the 150gm spear or do you think it's not worth it?
I'll probably get both weapons at some point but I'm not in a hurry.
I'm only sitting on 145 moons right now.
Honestly with Illustrious stuff the right way to go about it is to first ask yourself "How esports am I", if your answer is "Not very" then just go grab the weapon that looks the most fun to you.
Now you can use belial summon 😂
Hey man, what if I use 2 roseta daggers instead of 2 Evanescences?
in this exact same grid? why would you do this?
LE don't give supplemental and you shouldn't care about the Voltage.
@@Mizako ahh.. thanks for the explanation because I don't really now how the formula should works, I almost damas my LE lol