@@aaron6796Wow, you could’ve at least respected his time as a coach. I’m sure he’s not a bad guy, but he just didn’t deserve to be at Oklahoma. I’m a sooner fan, but this is a dickhead take from you.
No one on offense can block, until that gets better, nothing will change. These coach’s overloaded the players and their overlooked teaching how to block.
Hell no on Marion he’s 115th in pass offense. He’s not even a top 25 offense. I want someone with a track record that knows how to scheme an opponent and attack and game plan consistently.
Mike Shanahan - calls plays, is unpredictable and has outstanding feel for the game. Let him take over and decide who stays on staff. Doesn't run a gimmick offense, should retain recruits.
@@zacharyowens3547 needs to bring Tino Sunseri - co offensive/QB and Grant Cain special teams/tight ends. Rest of our coaches with most recruits stay to see how it fits.
@@Will-h9bexactly he needs to branch out and show he can do it elsewhere if he did well at OU especially with how bad our offense is. He’d get a head coach offer real quick.
They also have a winning record and could possibly make the playoffs. Ill take that any day. I don't care if the scores are air based or ground based, I just want to move the ball
Our offense would have still sucked with our top receivers. His scheme is is flat out braindead, and outdated at the best. You think OU would have learned to stop the good ole boys club BS after Mike Stoops single-handedly wasted some of the best teams the Sooners have ever had.
17:45 I partially disagree. The OL has been getting worse year after year, there's been poor retention and development as well, specifically from the HS OL. Bedenbaugh knew about this move to the SEC yet failed to put together a solid OL. To me, it looks like Bill got lazy and overly relied on the transfer portal and took a bunch of 3 stars to avoid recruiting competition. What's most annoying is Bedenbaugh is refusing to play guys like EPL and Brooks. We're forced to watch the same guys get manhandled week after week. OU loses nothing and can't get any worse playing Brooks and EPL. Why is BB the only coach on this team unwilling to play freshmen? Tarquin, Brown, Hickman, and Everett are done after this year and are horrible, so why continue to play them?
@@TíĐôtd maybe we don’t see what’s happening at practice and those dudes are still prob trying to learn everything cause they came in late after spring ball I believe
Brandon you gotta get off your knees for bb. He’s been bad for 4 years. It takes him 7 weeks every year to have a serviceable line. It’s his first year without having nfl first rounders at tackle and he’s been able to do nothing with it. 100 o line coaches have been better this year. It isn’t one bad year, it’s 3 bad years of recruiting and it’s an inability to have units ready to go by week one. Bb has lost his edge and needs to go.
F fun or flashy, need an OC whose Offense isn’t based on a lot of gimmicks or going at hyper speed, but instead has shown they are able to adjust the scheme around their best players year after year.
Still doesn't fix giving up 9 sacks. Probably going to be a mirror of when Mike Stoops was fired and R McNeil took over we were still lousy on D. Gotta start somewhere though. Litrell is a generational Sooner and wish him nothing but the best...maybe Josh will pick him up as an analyst at Rocky Top
And it will continue until next season. BV is showing everyone he's going to work towards fixing it. Unfortunately, we can't make a home run hire until after the season is over.
17:50 This is not BB’s only bad year, but it is by far his worst. I don’t get all the BB hype. Think about this: When the offense trotted out against Temple for the very first time, Spencer Brown was out there. Less than a half into the season, it becomes glaringly obvious that Spencer Brown doesn’t belong on an FBS football field. How in the WORLD did BB see him in the portal and think “This is one of the best available options for our football team”? Additionally, how did he get all the way through fall camp and think “Yeah, Spencer Brown is one of the five best guys that gives us a chance to succeed”? HOW?!
To be honest nothing changes till you get some skill players back and continuity on the OL so they can get some success and get some confidence to play with cause if you watch film they play good at times just need to get some drives together and I think it will help
You bring in the best offensive coordinator you can find and afford then let him put in place his own staff. No stipulations on who stays and who goes. No stipulations on having connections to OU in the past. You're asking someone to come in and save Brent Venable's job within 2 years while also saving his own job. That person does not want to come in and have handcuffs placed on him with staff requirements and then be looking for a new job in two years when it doesn't work out due to those handcuffs. P.S. My vote is for Brennan Marion.
@@WaylonAndST.MathyusDad35 Either way it's a problem with recruiting, play calling or a bad coach/player relationship. The second string guys should be able to execute on some level, OU is usually a top 10(ish) ranked team and the backup players should reflect that. It's all still on the HC and OC, Seth was in way over his head at OU, the job was too big for him. Rather that's the case for BV remains to be seen, but if he sticks the landing on this hire he should be fine, but if he bungles it, he'll be on the short bus out of town in a year or two.
@IntergalacticDustBunny the second string guys are hurt too dude. Once your 6th receiver is the primary option that essentially means you're at your third string. Not a team in the nation would have consistent receivers when it's third strings
Alright. Let's talk about this. Wishing Seth all the best and sorry if things didn't work out for him at OU. Now. OU fans did their job by letting the AD and The president and the head coach know that below average football is not acceptablee at the University of Oklahoma. OU fans are loyal and patient but up to some point. Hopefully this change will bring us better results. Boomer Sooner.
@@AK31029 😂 we aren’t fucking patient us real fans are but there’s to many goofy ass people out there that think everything is supposed to be fixed in a couple years harbaugh got 9 at Michigan before winning one they didn’t just fire him cause of a bad year they let him build and I think BV deserves that opportunity as well
@@Terpking918 Respectfully . Michigan did not lose to Ohio State 49-0 and then this year 34-3 as we did to Texas. Michigan was good in all of those 9 years . Michigan never droped to 130th. BV deserves one your year and if doen't fix what is a really broken offence, he needs to resign before getting fired. That would be better for him.
@@Terpking918 Hopefully things will get better and we win 2 more games to become Bowl eligible. The focus should be on the future. Thank you for the conversation. God Bless and Boomer Sooner.
Yeah, what the fuck is this talk about our elite position coaches? Show me a single position group on the offense that hasn’t been awful this season. The fact that a walk on came on and was our best pass catcher isn’t exactly a good sign for Jones. Every single one of the guys we’ve trotted out there has been a former 4 star recruit and they’ve not gotten the job done. If the entire position group fails like that, that’s on the coach.
@@FellatioNelsonnot dying jones was elite but what exactly does he have to do with his top 5 Wes getting hurt. And as far as the running game the RBs need the OL to block for them to work. Very few RBs can run the ball with a terrible oline
Go watch the Indiana offensive scheme and play x and o and beat your butt. He needs to be the man cause longer it waits the price tag goes up. Watched game they will beat OSU. They for real.
Seth Littrell isn't all the problems.....but this signals that Oklahoma is looking now. I'm sure agents are picking up their phones now and calling their coordinators to see what their interest is. Best way to do it. You will have a smaller list of people you want to interview at the end of the season.
Seth Littrell was Brent Venables fall guy, BV changed the offensive system from the Air Raid to Art Briles' Baylor System by hiring Jeff Lebby. Apparently, Bill Bedenbaugh could not figure out the blocking schemes because even when Lebby was on campus Bill Bedenbaugh had a problem implementing the blocking assignments for this system. Bill Bedenbaugh is familiar with the Air Raid gap blocking schemes but the offensive line looks confused, thus, Bedenbaugh is confused. The only other option is he does not like this system and he is in mutiny. Get it figured out please, Oklahoma Football is suffering
We’d be dumb to fire Demarco who the hell would you replace him with? The running game has been pathetic but what are they supposed to do without proper blocking. The guys were getting in the RB room are solid players the oline is just not helping. Tatum will be a stud.
@@SNERFAN The RB room has not been good since DM has been there. His rotations make no sense, which is likely due to him not being able to develop his guys.
You can’t fire someone for having just one bad year? We just fired someone that went even coached 8 games. You ABSOLUTELY can let someone go like BB after this abomination. It would or could make sense for him to be allowed to stay but let’s not act like one bad year can’t cost you a job. Good grief. Happens in the real world every day that someone loses their job over one bad year. BD, how many high school recruits has BB developed into NFL guys since 2018 and you convince everyone why BB should t be let go. It also purely does matter if they are HS or portal guys too. The reason we are in this spot isn’t because of portal player play but the lack of development by the HS recruits he has brought in these last 6 years. So either way is very understandable
One thing to remember is that the majority of the offensive staff was a holdover from Riley’s staff (Littrell and WR coach are the two exceptions), so these guys really are not BV hires. Keeping the holdovers was a Joe C call. Maybe would have been better to let Venables bring in his own staff like he did on defense which seems to be working out just fine.
You are right that it doesn't matter who was calling plays, but in that same breath, Littrell was designing plays where he put players in positions he knew they couldn't succeed in. Parker mentioned yesterday having Sharpe try and block, those are plays designed by Littrell knowing full well Sharpe can't block worth a damn. Issues like that or running long toss runs to the short side of the field when the O line cant make a block is just bad play calling.
I hate to hear of anyone getting fired. IF BV doesn't do something then fans would be questioning him as a Head Coach. I know BV probably hates to have to do this. I am not an OU fan I am a TN fan. But BV sounds like a great guy.
This season is a wash. Firing Litrell and appointment of JJF as play caller is a tourniquet to stop the bleeding. They will hire a new OC in the off season. BV can't bet his career on JJF.
BV was brought in to get us ready for the sec. in my opinion that means hiring and firing coaches that are not coaching up to the standard thats his job. at the end of the year if he has to fire the whole staff or its his head next!
I feel like I could talk about this in circles for hours.1. You have to hire an OC that will make a HUGE splash. That keeps current / prospective players engaged. Someone everyone wants to play for. 2. The Sooners need to raise ever red cent they can raise for NIL funds. We need to pull a Miami / Oregon like splash in the transfer portal.
Not an OU fan but you can’t throw shade at the QB. I don’t care if you had Mayfield back. With that OL no QB will excel. I’ve never seen 9 sacks by 9 different players
Your comments all have merit. But in my opinion the biggest challenge the program has right now is to protect the talent there! In today’s college environment with the Portel and trying to sign a new class the could all could be severely harmed!
I just hope that BV does in fact hire outside of who is on campus. There are some good solid OC's out there to lure away, and hire. Open the wallet, and hire them.
Honestly Joe john should dust off Jeff lebbys playbook and call the rest of the season with Jeff's offense. Our last 300+ yard passing game came against Arizona!
I want to see what JJF can do calling the plays. Hes worked under lincoln riley and jeff lebby. They should run Jeff Lebby offense bc thats what JA is comfortable running.
This is NOT a job interview for JJF. If BV doesn't go out and hire an ELITE OC then BV won't be the coach there this time next year. They kept JJF just to have SOMEONE to call plays. The fact is BV put himself in a corner with hiring Littrell and JJF. Also, DeMarco Murray and Bedenbaugh have to get the hell out of Norman.
JJF was who Lebby recommended for his replacement because he has the best understanding of Lebby’s system. Why Littrell was named play caller is not completely clear. I suspect it was due to his past experience as HC and OC. Not sure how much of a difference JJF calling the plays would have made. It’s hard to know what goes on behind closed doors.
Personally, I don’t think this changes anything this year because the OL is so bad. BV has to do this because if not, the fanbase was going to turn on BV and want him out. By doing this, the fans will now think “the problem is gone” when in reality, the OL is the problem. They don’t have any talent on the OL and until that changes, it doesn’t matter who’s calling the plays. The Marion guy runs a gimmick offense, I don’t see BV going there
HOPEFULLY BV WENT TO JOE C AND AND NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND!!! You’re delusional if you think the offensive can make a dramatic change everyone saw when they had a bye week and they tried to install 50 New Plays!!! These players can’t pick up simple schemes, and make adjustments, especially on the o line!!! How the freshmen walk on wide receiver, who probably got no reps in practice, understands route concepts, the ability to sit down in the zone slide in the zone, run the pattern at the correct yardage. Something none of these highly recruited and ranked four-star receivers !!! At least Brendan Thompson caught a long pass first time they saw him all year and he’s been open probably 8 to 10 times exactly like that in the past games
Coach Littrell had not progressed as an offensive mind nationally before his hiring. A top 10 team must have top ten coaches and staff. I understand the promote from within but, talent has to be a factor in championship teams.
This front line is horrible and they all need to be replaced. Just because you add 35lbs. on a guy doesn’t mean it’ll make him a better blocker. Every single OL can’t seem to block out their own guy on defense. Emmett Jones needs to stay and possibly BB. The rest need to find another position. Demarco can go and we can bring in Adrian Peterson.
For sure but just shows how far we have to go to be a 2nd tier SEC team at line of scrimmage particularly OLine. In the bottom quartile of SEC now for sure.not ready
Great breakdown. SL had a bad shake but life does that. Proud of BV making the super hard decisions. I think we keep all our coaches but hire a new OC and let the current coaches support him
I want a physical big O-Line that can get 4 yards when u need it. I want quick slot receivers like Sheppard, and big WR like we have. I will keep Arnold and develop and would get a proven RB in portal like Eric gray from couple of years ago. We clearly can’t develop RB, so get one that needs a good last year before NFL shot
It’s a little hard on the defense when your offense gives them 21 pts in the first quarter. Also it’s pretty hard on the D when the O goes 3 and out or turns over giving them a couple mins of rest
we need to realize this is exactly why he (BV) was hired at ou to get us ready to play in the sec. defensively we are on our way so continue to improve. but offensively we are absolutely abysmal! if this means the entire offensive staff gets let go, then so be it. every coach on this team needs to realize this fact, you are in the sec now. you have got to show results, or you will be a cellar dweller in a heartbeat right beside vandy.... oh, wait its just us now vandy can at least score points to help their defense!
Demarco is obviously an all-time beloved OU player; he’s one of my favorites players to ever watch. But it’s been painful to watch the OU running backs for two years now. Honestly, Tawee might be the best back of the last two years, and we let him go. Gotta consider other options.
I wouldn’t say Bill is safe. What do we hear every single year? The O line starts off the season for the first few games and then all of a sudden he gets them right. You know how many o line coaches have their guys good to go right off the bat? A LOT!!!!
Hey, "dwight" I hear The Sooners are looking for an offensive coordinator. Go apply. Tell Joe C. how qualified you are. That there's no need to hire dummies when you can take this offense to the promised land. Good luck dwight, you have my backing.
JP Los man wow, blast from the past. This defiantly is a bad time for OU and I understand completely making a change, I just don’t know how much of a difference it’s gonna make for OU
Moving joe Jon Finley to the offensive play caller I think was a bad decision. I don’t think he’s going to call a game any better. For OU sake hopefully he isn’t as stubborn as littrel seemed and hopefully he can look at the film and just call smarter plays. The idea that they thought their TE’s could pass block the USC ends was wild and they kept doing it. Like Ikard was saying that’s a bad idea if the TE can actually block well, but when they can’t it’s got disaster written all over it and that came to fruition several times.
This needed happen but my heart goes out to Seth and his family. He is and will always be a national championship winning Sooner.
There is nothing good about Littrell. The players gave up on him. He’s a bum
@@aaron6796Littrell has done more in his lifetime than you will ever and could ever have done.
@@aaron6796Wow, you could’ve at least respected his time as a coach. I’m sure he’s not a bad guy, but he just didn’t deserve to be at Oklahoma. I’m a sooner fan, but this is a dickhead take from you.
@@aaron6796 He has forgotten more than he’s done in his life than you will ever do in yours.
🤡🤡
This guy is lost
Love seth wish him the best he is a forever Sooner 💪🏾💯 but with thst said lets go get the best OC money can find get the bag ready 💰💰💰
Seth will always have my respect and appreciation as an honored member of the Sooner family. I wish him all the best going forward. Thank you Seth
Seth is my all time favorite Sooner it sucks for him we all feel bad !
No one on offense can block, until that gets better, nothing will change. These coach’s overloaded the players and their overlooked teaching how to block.
Hell no on Marion he’s 115th in pass offense. He’s not even a top 25 offense. I want someone with a track record that knows how to scheme an opponent and attack and game plan consistently.
Tough luck..never was able to utilize Nic Anderson. I just don’t understand how all our starting wr are out injured…something is fishy there imo.
Mike Shanahan - calls plays, is unpredictable and has outstanding feel for the game. Let him take over and decide who stays on staff. Doesn't run a gimmick offense, should retain recruits.
Mike Shanahan... What name that guy has to live up too
Doubt he'd come. He's been with Cignetti his entire career.
I’d be cool with him, except he’s a WR coach and I’d love to keep Emmett Jones. If we were to get him, Oklahoma needs to get their QB coach too
@@zacharyowens3547 needs to bring Tino Sunseri - co offensive/QB and Grant Cain special teams/tight ends. Rest of our coaches with most recruits stay to see how it fits.
@@Will-h9bexactly he needs to branch out and show he can do it elsewhere if he did well at OU especially with how bad our offense is. He’d get a head coach offer real quick.
UNLV has 12 more passing yards than OU. I’ll pass
They also have a winning record and could possibly make the playoffs. Ill take that any day. I don't care if the scores are air based or ground based, I just want to move the ball
They prioritize the QB running game, it’s a different type of offense. Passing yards are not the only stat when determining a good offense. Lmao
The deck was stacked against SL since fall camp when we started losing WR's and OLinemen. Wish him the best.
Our offense would have still sucked with our top receivers. His scheme is is flat out braindead, and outdated at the best. You think OU would have learned to stop the good ole boys club BS after Mike Stoops single-handedly wasted some of the best teams the Sooners have ever had.
Venables needs to drive a Brink's Truck to Bloomington and give Mike Shanahan whatever he wants.
Whoever is brought in you gotta allow them to bring in their own staff, whoever they wanna bring in.
17:45 I partially disagree. The OL has been getting worse year after year, there's been poor retention and development as well, specifically from the HS OL. Bedenbaugh knew about this move to the SEC yet failed to put together a solid OL. To me, it looks like Bill got lazy and overly relied on the transfer portal and took a bunch of 3 stars to avoid recruiting competition. What's most annoying is Bedenbaugh is refusing to play guys like EPL and Brooks. We're forced to watch the same guys get manhandled week after week. OU loses nothing and can't get any worse playing Brooks and EPL. Why is BB the only coach on this team unwilling to play freshmen? Tarquin, Brown, Hickman, and Everett are done after this year and are horrible, so why continue to play them?
BB has to go
@@TíĐôtd maybe we don’t see what’s happening at practice and those dudes are still prob trying to learn everything cause they came in late after spring ball I believe
@@Terpking918 Brooks came in the winter and EPL came in the summer, I still don't believe they can do worse than what we've seen all year.
Brandon you gotta get off your knees for bb. He’s been bad for 4 years. It takes him 7 weeks every year to have a serviceable line. It’s his first year without having nfl first rounders at tackle and he’s been able to do nothing with it. 100 o line coaches have been better this year. It isn’t one bad year, it’s 3 bad years of recruiting and it’s an inability to have units ready to go by week one. Bb has lost his edge and needs to go.
F fun or flashy, need an OC whose Offense isn’t based on a lot of gimmicks or going at hyper speed, but instead has shown they are able to adjust the scheme around their best players year after year.
Still doesn't fix giving up 9 sacks. Probably going to be a mirror of when Mike Stoops was fired and R McNeil took over we were still lousy on D. Gotta start somewhere though. Litrell is a generational Sooner and wish him nothing but the best...maybe Josh will pick him up as an analyst at Rocky Top
U r fn crazy
Mack Brown tried to keep certain “program guys” within his staff when his teams were having difficulty. Look how that panned out.
It never works out, it's embarrassing that OU and BV took the nepotism route after Mike Stoops held the program back for a decade.
Brandon. Stop trusting your gut. It said Hawkins would have a massive game against Texas.
The dumpster is still burning.
And it will continue until next season. BV is showing everyone he's going to work towards fixing it. Unfortunately, we can't make a home run hire until after the season is over.
It’s burning like the sun
17:50 This is not BB’s only bad year, but it is by far his worst. I don’t get all the BB hype. Think about this: When the offense trotted out against Temple for the very first time, Spencer Brown was out there. Less than a half into the season, it becomes glaringly obvious that Spencer Brown doesn’t belong on an FBS football field. How in the WORLD did BB see him in the portal and think “This is one of the best available options for our football team”? Additionally, how did he get all the way through fall camp and think “Yeah, Spencer Brown is one of the five best guys that gives us a chance to succeed”? HOW?!
BB has produced more nfl oline man than a whole lot of oline coaches in CFB.
To be honest nothing changes till you get some skill players back and continuity on the OL so they can get some success and get some confidence to play with cause if you watch film they play good at times just need to get some drives together and I think it will help
You bring in the best offensive coordinator you can find and afford then let him put in place his own staff.
No stipulations on who stays and who goes. No stipulations on having connections to OU in the past.
You're asking someone to come in and save Brent Venable's job within 2 years while also saving his own job. That person does not want to come in and have handcuffs placed on him with staff requirements and then be looking for a new job in two years when it doesn't work out due to those handcuffs.
P.S. My vote is for Brennan Marion.
My first pick too
A new OC wont make our players healthy. I believe if we were healthy, our offense would've been 100xs better
@@WaylonAndST.MathyusDad35 Either way it's a problem with recruiting, play calling or a bad coach/player relationship. The second string guys should be able to execute on some level, OU is usually a top 10(ish) ranked team and the backup players should reflect that. It's all still on the HC and OC, Seth was in way over his head at OU, the job was too big for him. Rather that's the case for BV remains to be seen, but if he sticks the landing on this hire he should be fine, but if he bungles it, he'll be on the short bus out of town in a year or two.
@IntergalacticDustBunny the second string guys are hurt too dude. Once your 6th receiver is the primary option that essentially means you're at your third string. Not a team in the nation would have consistent receivers when it's third strings
Also any OC would love to come to Oklahoma because they see that Brent has built an elite defense for years to come
Alright. Let's talk about this. Wishing Seth all the best and sorry if things didn't work out for him at OU. Now. OU fans did their job by letting the AD and The president and the head coach know that below average football is not acceptablee at the University of Oklahoma.
OU fans are loyal and patient but up to some point. Hopefully this change will bring us better results. Boomer Sooner.
@@AK31029 😂 we aren’t fucking patient us real fans are but there’s to many goofy ass people out there that think everything is supposed to be fixed in a couple years harbaugh got 9 at Michigan before winning one they didn’t just fire him cause of a bad year they let him build and I think BV deserves that opportunity as well
@@Terpking918 Respectfully . Michigan did not lose to Ohio State 49-0 and then this year 34-3 as we did to Texas. Michigan was good in all of those 9 years . Michigan never droped to 130th. BV deserves one your year and if doen't fix what is a really broken offence, he needs to resign before getting fired. That would be better for him.
@@AK31029 yeah I’m sure he also didn’t have to play a TE as QB in a game either respectfully
@@Terpking918 Hopefully things will get better and we win 2 more games to become Bowl eligible. The focus should be on the future. Thank you for the conversation. God Bless and Boomer Sooner.
Brandon we got strong position coachs that havnt done shit this yr.
Yeah, what the fuck is this talk about our elite position coaches? Show me a single position group on the offense that hasn’t been awful this season. The fact that a walk on came on and was our best pass catcher isn’t exactly a good sign for Jones. Every single one of the guys we’ve trotted out there has been a former 4 star recruit and they’ve not gotten the job done. If the entire position group fails like that, that’s on the coach.
This lol
@@FellatioNelsonnot dying jones was elite but what exactly does he have to do with his top 5 Wes getting hurt. And as far as the running game the RBs need the OL to block for them to work. Very few RBs can run the ball with a terrible oline
Go watch the Indiana offensive scheme and play x and o and beat your butt. He needs to be the man cause longer it waits the price tag goes up. Watched game they will beat OSU. They for real.
Hire Brennan Marion very good recruiter and his offense fits Jackson and Mike Hawkins
Wish Seth the best. Get the best OU at the end of the season and let HIM decide who stays and goes
About time!
Seth Littrell isn't all the problems.....but this signals that Oklahoma is looking now. I'm sure agents are picking up their phones now and calling their coordinators to see what their interest is. Best way to do it. You will have a smaller list of people you want to interview at the end of the season.
The one thing you have to consider is recruiting
Seth Littrell was Brent Venables fall guy, BV changed the offensive system from the Air Raid to Art Briles' Baylor System by hiring Jeff Lebby. Apparently, Bill Bedenbaugh could not figure out the blocking schemes because even when Lebby was on campus Bill Bedenbaugh had a problem implementing the blocking assignments for this system. Bill Bedenbaugh is familiar with the Air Raid gap blocking schemes but the offensive line looks confused, thus, Bedenbaugh is confused. The only other option is he does not like this system and he is in mutiny. Get it figured out please, Oklahoma Football is suffering
Now bill Bedenbaugh and demarco need to be on the hot seat
Hicks can block pretty good 😊
They're all on the hot seat, and that includes BV.
We’d be dumb to fire Demarco who the hell would you replace him with? The running game has been pathetic but what are they supposed to do without proper blocking. The guys were getting in the RB room are solid players the oline is just not helping. Tatum will be a stud.
@@SNERFAN
The RB room has not been good since DM has been there. His rotations make no sense, which is likely due to him not being able to develop his guys.
You can’t fire someone for having just one bad year? We just fired someone that went even coached 8 games. You ABSOLUTELY can let someone go like BB after this abomination. It would or could make sense for him to be allowed to stay but let’s not act like one bad year can’t cost you a job. Good grief. Happens in the real world every day that someone loses their job over one bad year.
BD, how many high school recruits has BB developed into NFL guys since 2018 and you convince everyone why BB should t be let go. It also purely does matter if they are HS or portal guys too. The reason we are in this spot isn’t because of portal player play but the lack of development by the HS recruits he has brought in these last 6 years. So either way is very understandable
When new OC is hired they need to hire their own staff
One thing to remember is that the majority of the offensive staff was a holdover from Riley’s staff (Littrell and WR coach are the two exceptions), so these guys really are not BV hires. Keeping the holdovers was a Joe C call. Maybe would have been better to let Venables bring in his own staff like he did on defense which seems to be working out just fine.
ATM is a wealthier school than OU so I don't know why Klein would leave it.
You are right that it doesn't matter who was calling plays, but in that same breath, Littrell was designing plays where he put players in positions he knew they couldn't succeed in. Parker mentioned yesterday having Sharpe try and block, those are plays designed by Littrell knowing full well Sharpe can't block worth a damn. Issues like that or running long toss runs to the short side of the field when the O line cant make a block is just bad play calling.
I hate to hear of anyone getting fired. IF BV doesn't do something then fans would be questioning him as a Head Coach. I know BV probably hates to have to do this. I am not an OU fan I am a TN fan. But BV sounds like a great guy.
This season is a wash. Firing Litrell and appointment of JJF as play caller is a tourniquet to stop the bleeding. They will hire a new OC in the off season. BV can't bet his career on JJF.
BV was brought in to get us ready for the sec. in my opinion that means hiring and firing coaches that are not coaching up to the standard thats his job. at the end of the year if he has to fire the whole staff or its his head next!
@@daltonmann4916 exactly! And the love affair, like Brandon Drumm, with Bill Bedenbaugh needs to stop.
Eh I don’t think we’re gonna go the ole OU Alum inside hire. Well go out and get a top OC. After a season this bad.
I feel like I could talk about this in circles for hours.1. You have to hire an OC that will make a HUGE splash. That keeps current / prospective players engaged. Someone everyone wants to play for. 2. The Sooners need to raise ever red cent they can raise for NIL funds. We need to pull a Miami / Oregon like splash in the transfer portal.
Run the ball. You control everything..........
Not an OU fan but you can’t throw shade at the QB. I don’t care if you had Mayfield back. With that OL no QB will excel. I’ve never seen 9 sacks by 9 different players
Kevin Johns has vast experience in QB coaching and playcalling. JJF was passing game coordinator at Ole Miss.
Didn’t Bill Bedenbaugh call plays during the Riley era from time to time?
A tiny Cars Band-Aid over a bullet wound for the season.
Your comments all have merit. But in my opinion the biggest challenge the program has right now is to protect the talent there! In today’s college environment with the Portel and trying to sign a new class the could all could be severely harmed!
what about Mack Leftwich,, good with QB,s has Texas ties , good record,,
I just hope that BV does in fact hire outside of who is on campus. There are some good solid OC's out there to lure away, and hire. Open the wallet, and hire them.
Why would it take firing Seth Latrell to promote this gentleman to a quarterbacks coach? Both Arnold and Hawkins needed a quarterback coach.
Let’s Go! The best is yet to come!
JJ will have to run it exactly like Lebby. Most players on offense already know it, and the speed of play might help the o-line.
Honestly Joe john should dust off Jeff lebbys playbook and call the rest of the season with Jeff's offense. Our last 300+ yard passing game came against Arizona!
I want to see what JJF can do calling the plays. Hes worked under lincoln riley and jeff lebby. They should run Jeff Lebby offense bc thats what JA is comfortable running.
This offense is still in Horrendous Shape & Will till the end of the season!
2009 is the fucking Super Bowl for this OL
This is NOT a job interview for JJF. If BV doesn't go out and hire an ELITE OC then BV won't be the coach there this time next year. They kept JJF just to have SOMEONE to call plays.
The fact is BV put himself in a corner with hiring Littrell and JJF.
Also, DeMarco Murray and Bedenbaugh have to get the hell out of Norman.
JJF was who Lebby recommended for his replacement because he has the best understanding of Lebby’s system.
Why Littrell was named play caller is not completely clear. I suspect it was due to his past experience as HC and OC. Not sure how much of a difference JJF calling the plays would have made. It’s hard to know what goes on behind closed doors.
Jackson Arnold is the best game day ready QB at OU right now. Mike Hawkins needs to develop as a backup, which was the original plan.
Personally, I don’t think this changes anything this year because the OL is so bad. BV has to do this because if not, the fanbase was going to turn on BV and want him out. By doing this, the fans will now think “the problem is gone” when in reality, the OL is the problem. They don’t have any talent on the OL and until that changes, it doesn’t matter who’s calling the plays. The Marion guy runs a gimmick offense, I don’t see BV going there
It doesnt matter who is calling plays with a OLINE like this it just doesnt matter ..
The o line is banged up and has had guys for most of the season! They haven’t had the chance to gel!
HOPEFULLY BV WENT TO JOE C AND AND NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND!!!
You’re delusional if you think the offensive can make a dramatic change everyone saw when they had a bye week and they tried to install 50 New Plays!!!
These players can’t pick up simple schemes, and make adjustments, especially on the o line!!!
How the freshmen walk on wide receiver, who probably got no reps in practice, understands route concepts, the ability to sit down in the zone slide in the zone, run the pattern at the correct yardage. Something none of these highly recruited and ranked four-star receivers !!!
At least Brendan Thompson caught a long pass first time they saw him all year and he’s been open probably 8 to 10 times exactly like that in the past games
Coach Littrell had not progressed as an offensive mind nationally before his hiring. A top 10 team must have top ten coaches and staff. I understand the promote from within but, talent has to be a factor in championship teams.
Next 4 conference games are Ole Miss, Mizzou, Bama and LSU.
We're in DEEP SH*T, YALL.
Kade Bell, OC @ Pitt
I was thinking the same thing. Although his QB threw 2 INTs last weekend and zero TDs. Maybe it’s just a bad game but we’ll see
JJF doesn’t have a chance.
JJ and Murray next
That's true, you need to go Brandon!
Look at the Boise State OC.
16:10 I would KILL for the 2009 offense right now. That offense was MILES better than this.
This front line is horrible and they all need to be replaced. Just because you add 35lbs. on a guy doesn’t mean it’ll make him a better blocker. Every single OL can’t seem to block out their own guy on defense. Emmett Jones needs to stay and possibly BB. The rest need to find another position. Demarco can go and we can bring in Adrian Peterson.
People forget that South Carolina was in the games with Lsu and Alabama, they got a good defense
For sure but just shows how far we have to go to be a 2nd tier SEC team at line of scrimmage particularly OLine. In the bottom quartile of SEC now for sure.not ready
Just play the freshmen O linemen the rest of the season. At the very least those kids will have a good amount of actual in-game experience.
Great breakdown. SL had a bad shake but life does that. Proud of BV making the super hard decisions. I think we keep all our coaches but hire a new OC and let the current coaches support him
Thank God
This is the worst o line in my life time ,in 50 years
Yep. I guess that Seth's fault.
Non of Oklahoma’s Div 1 teams look even a little responsible. Our defense Sr’s may have been watching their NFL pick drop by the weeks
Parker what the hell has Emmitt jones done we got a walk on playing in front of our highly rated recruits. You guys are sunshine shine pumpers
You just answered your own question 😂
I want a physical big O-Line that can get 4 yards when u need it. I want quick slot receivers like Sheppard, and big WR like we have. I will keep Arnold and develop and would get a proven RB in portal like Eric gray from couple of years ago. We clearly can’t develop RB, so get one that needs a good last year before NFL shot
What about the defense? All we heard was how great they were and now blown out back to back?
It’s a little hard on the defense when your offense gives them 21 pts in the first quarter. Also it’s pretty hard on the D when the O goes 3 and out or turns over giving them a couple mins of rest
I will say one offense that can go in line with BV is Montana State OC very physical offense and very discipline.
Not spending in nil when it first started costing bid money caused every it of this
Correct and hurt BB.
Absolutely the case
we need to realize this is exactly why he (BV) was hired at ou to get us ready to play in the sec. defensively we are on our way so continue to improve. but offensively we are absolutely abysmal! if this means the entire offensive staff gets let go, then so be it. every coach on this team needs to realize this fact, you are in the sec now. you have got to show results, or you will be a cellar dweller in a heartbeat right beside vandy.... oh, wait its just us now vandy can at least score points to help their defense!
Demarco is obviously an all-time beloved OU player; he’s one of my favorites players to ever watch. But it’s been painful to watch the OU running backs for two years now. Honestly, Tawee might be the best back of the last two years, and we let him go. Gotta consider other options.
He’s waiting for the Ohio State coach to be fired but what about Brian Hartline?
I wouldn’t say Bill is safe. What do we hear every single year? The O line starts off the season for the first few games and then all of a sudden he gets them right. You know how many o line coaches have their guys good to go right off the bat? A LOT!!!!
Love Seth also but it just wasn’t working
Marion is 1 on my list. Shanahan is 2 from Indiana. That offense is Fire
I have heard the whole offensive staff was told last night that they will be gone at the end of the season.
How about bring back Cale Gundy
racist comments.
Mike Leach gave background on Lincoln Riley. Not much cold calling was happening with LR.
Fired dumb and promoted dumber sounds about right. Stop hiring friends and get the best.
Hey, "dwight" I hear The Sooners are looking for an offensive coordinator. Go apply. Tell Joe C. how qualified you are. That there's no need to hire dummies when you can take this offense to the promised land. Good luck dwight, you have my backing.
Lol. Nice!@@thebrightredelephant4337
It’s halfway through the season. They aren’t going to hire a new OC in the middle of the season. That will happen in December.
That’s funny
JJF has one position to worry about and they are terrible. I doubt that he can prove that he wasn't part of the problem
Agreed
Mostly this is just a start to fixing the problem, but Kevin Johns will be helping him which makes me feel a little better.
Dude they should've got Brennan Marion last year
Bill Bedenbaugh and Joe John need to be gone at End of season as well and then we will have some faith.
Chaos has arrived for the entire program.
JP Los man wow, blast from the past. This defiantly is a bad time for OU and I understand completely making a change, I just don’t know how much of a difference it’s gonna make for OU
Moving joe Jon Finley to the offensive play caller I think was a bad decision. I don’t think he’s going to call a game any better. For OU sake hopefully he isn’t as stubborn as littrel seemed and hopefully he can look at the film and just call smarter plays. The idea that they thought their TE’s could pass block the USC ends was wild and they kept doing it. Like Ikard was saying that’s a bad idea if the TE can actually block well, but when they can’t it’s got disaster written all over it and that came to fruition several times.
So Seth is like Cale......both love OU......and both are at peace with Brent's decisions.
I think Coach Freeze with Auburn might be a decent o coordinator what do y’all think?
Did not Bedenbaugh call plays in 2010 at Arizona when he and Littrell were co-coordinators???
Do you think offering Cale Grundy the interem job would be a wise decision?
Mike Shannahan for OC. INDIANA 😊😊😊😊BOOMER