This is probably the best, most comprehensive video for explaining the top three brands anywhere on the internet! I own a small engine shop and try to explain the differences to customers occasionally. I now have a video I can just send to them instead that's much more thorough! Thanks Bre!
@@funnyfails2701 You can just drop the first digit (0) and apply the remaining numbers to the chart in the video, they apply to older models too. Congrats on owning an 044!!
I run the 660 magnum at work out on the landing cutting up logs to go to the mill. The guys out in the woods felling trees are running the 500i’s bored and ported with wcs exhaust’s. Those things run fast and hard! One of our other crews has a 660m magnum. At home I simply run a 271 Farm Boss. It’s a nice reprieve from running the brute of a saw at work!
I didn't think I would learn anything from this video after using saws for 40+ years, but I was wrong! Thanks for the tip about odd and even second numbers on Stihls! I have 16 even numbered Stihls and didn't know it!
You can screen shot your computer and then print or I am fixing to add them to the photos section of my Facebook page where you can save them to your computer and print.
That was really thorough and great. I ran stihl mostly and some husky but love my stihl. Me and my dad had a tree company (now just stump grinding) so I am glad to have got to run basically all the professional saws stihl makes. I think personally if someone is going to run a saw at least a couple times a week the professional (in any brand) is probably the way to go just because they will last. The professional saws have so much run time on them for us and still going strong.
I’m a moderate to heavy firewooder and have Husqvarna saws. I upgraded to professional grade saws (550&562). The ergonomics are much better and the power to weight ratio is better! To me the upgrade was well worth the extra money
My 2 neighbors in Florida were crazy over Echo and they would say don't waist your money on anything else. So i bought Stihl, just to piss them off and the fact is before i ever moved to Florida i had Stihl. In Florida I needed a small chainsaw and i bought a Stihl ms 170 and it took care of what I threw at it. Now living in Missouri i looked around at saws that Stihl had and bought one. I wish I would have done more research on them. I still don't worry about the price of them. I bought a ms 250, well I'm 72 years old and not as strong as i use to be. I have a hard time pulling it to start it. I should have bought a easy start. I only use the Stihl moto mix, i know it can be expensive but I also know it should last longer, plus to keep it clean is a must. I kinda like the Husqvarna but being new in the area don't know who could work on it. I see Echo for sale everywhere but I just don't want one.
possibly you remember the old Briggs Stratton engines had a easy start crank on the shroud to compress a spring, and a release button on the shroud to release it to start it, no pull required. might be the same concept in a pull start without a release button.
a tip: if you are well able bodied, you don't want the easy start or the comfort grip options on a Stihl saw. those are made for people who don't have the body strength to manhandle a saw. - the average user can break the starter and handle subchassis on those by drop starting it or by powering it into the wood.
The cool neato features on Husqv for x torque and smart start....the same exact feature on Poulan Pro 18" and 20" Yes smart start is simply a wrap spring in the plastic starter pawl hub. When you pull rope a spring compresses and then turns flywheel. All it is doing is absorbing compression from piston. Nothing more, nothing less. Poulan pro calls it EPS - effortless pull system.
I have a 1997 Husqvarna 51 with a 16" bar (also has an 18). I like that better than the Stihl MS 251 with an 18" bar. The Stihl is OK, but it has that "easy start" feature that takes some getting used to.
It's pretty much the same. They just moved the zero from the front to the end as the first model variation. For example the 028 turned into the MS280 and then the MS 281.
As a homeowner I purchased a Stihl MS 250, from the research I did I felt this was more than adequate to handle around the home jobs, time will tell if I made a good choice?
The official description of the Husqvarna Chainsaw Smart Start is that it "evens out the increase of momentum that develops when the piston reaches its highest level", this combined with a Google search of reviews of the system, universally described, beyond some carburetor tweaks, as a standard cord pull with a compression release.
Nice explanation! I was thinking about an Echo but Huskvarna sounds like it has some nice features. From a repair point of view, which do you personally recommend?
husqvarna's first generation mtronic is actually bought from stihl cuz the eu didnt want a monopoly. if you own or buy one keep the air filter clean. a plugged filter leans out the mixture and you will burn this up!!! routine maintenance if your friend! as for the smart start if memory serves me right the coil pack retards the timing up to a certain rpm then over that goes to regular mode.
Now I'm even more confused! But thanks anyway - BTW, Stihl's MS means Motorsäge (motor Saw). And I still don't know what the MS 029 Super stands for as I have forgotten what the salesman told me 35 years ago! But we now have four saws, ranging from a little Husky cordless, thru the MS500i and on to the Husky 592XP. And yes, it will tear down a forest - or put wheels on it and drive to the shops!
I am average homeowner and do not use a chain saw often. Gas is very problematic for my use, once a year. I have one wired electric cord 14 inch, nice works well and comes with a 12 ft pole. Chain saw on a pole is to heavy, may sell it. I have a 80 amp electric work. Works well and battery last longer than I do. I saw palm trees and need to sharpen or replace blades often. I think I do not hear much about, need to grease the tip of the chain bar. Use a rubber tip on the grease gun.
nope. I went in, got the brochure, and went home and studied it to determine what features and options suited my needs best. and that's how I have the model with the highest power to weight ratio in the class I wanted. (MS260PRO)
Haven’t watched th video yet. But when I read the title, my immediate thought was that’s falling down a rabbit hole; untangling four balls of knotted string; juggling cats while training a hamster and being chased by dog.
Having the model's number lets me call her at home. That way, she can tell me personally that sh won't go out with me, rather than just having her manager remind me that she is WAY out of my league.
This is probably the best, most comprehensive video for explaining the top three brands anywhere on the internet! I own a small engine shop and try to explain the differences to customers occasionally. I now have a video I can just send to them instead that's much more thorough! Thanks Bre!
Aw! Thanks so much!
@@Chickaniccould you do a video on older stihl chainsaws like the ones that start with a 0 like a 044.
@@funnyfails2701 You can just drop the first digit (0) and apply the remaining numbers to the chart in the video, they apply to older models too. Congrats on owning an 044!!
@@nailpounder3013I own the 085. But thanks for that my brain is a bit tired to think😂
Clear as mud!! Thanks for the 3 cheat sheets.
Thanks Bre. I always had to look up specs on saws to figure all this out. Your charts are now saved on my phone.
Good video. The old Stihl numbering system was very simple. Example: An 039 was 3.9 cubic inches.
Good morning Bre! Great info. Thanks for sharing your extensive knowledge. Have a good day!!!
Thanks Dave!
I run the 660 magnum at work out on the landing cutting up logs to go to the mill. The guys out in the woods felling trees are running the 500i’s bored and ported with wcs exhaust’s. Those things run fast and hard! One of our other crews has a 660m magnum. At home I simply run a 271 Farm Boss. It’s a nice reprieve from running the brute of a saw at work!
Awesome explanation.
Right to the point.
Very straightforward clear explanation of these 3 chainsaw manufacturers. Thanks!
Fantastic information as always. Thanks again for doing what you do. I appreciate it.
I didn't think I would learn anything from this video after using saws for 40+ years, but I was wrong! Thanks for the tip about odd and even second numbers on Stihls! I have 16 even numbered Stihls and didn't know it!
Very informative. Thank you.
Good vid. I welcome this warmer weather.
Great information. Thank you for doing the charts. If only they could be printed.
You can screen shot your computer and then print or I am fixing to add them to the photos section of my Facebook page where you can save them to your computer and print.
@@Chickanic you know everything ??? 😜
Thank you for this info. Keeping this video for reference.
That was really thorough and great. I ran stihl mostly and some husky but love my stihl. Me and my dad had a tree company (now just stump grinding) so I am glad to have got to run basically all the professional saws stihl makes. I think personally if someone is going to run a saw at least a couple times a week the professional (in any brand) is probably the way to go just because they will last. The professional saws have so much run time on them for us and still going strong.
Hi Bre,
Great explanation and visuals. Everyone there stay safe.
Very helpful, thank you!!!
❤️❤️❤️ love the information!!! 😊
Thanks Bree.
I’m a moderate to heavy firewooder and have Husqvarna saws. I upgraded to professional grade saws (550&562). The ergonomics are much better and the power to weight ratio is better! To me the upgrade was well worth the extra money
Thanks Bre for the awesome explanation excellent video
💯That's a big 10-4! Great info!
Ms 500i shreds !! Gotta be handy with Stihl
Good job!
Hva 562 the 2 = large bar mount
G = generator, heated handles as you said and also heated carb
Thanks
Very good information thanks
My 2 neighbors in Florida were crazy over Echo and they would say don't waist your money on anything else. So i bought Stihl, just to piss them off and the fact is before i ever moved to Florida i had Stihl. In Florida I needed a small chainsaw and i bought a Stihl ms 170 and it took care of what I threw at it. Now living in Missouri i looked around at saws that Stihl had and bought one. I wish I would have done more research on them. I still don't worry about the price of them. I bought a ms 250, well I'm 72 years old and not as strong as i use to be. I have a hard time pulling it to start it. I should have bought a easy start. I only use the Stihl moto mix, i know it can be expensive but I also know it should last longer, plus to keep it clean is a must. I kinda like the Husqvarna but being new in the area don't know who could work on it. I see Echo for sale everywhere but I just don't want one.
Dropping knowledge school today, that'll work!
Awesome!
THANK YOU!!!!
I’ll probably never need a chainsaw but if I did I’ll be prepared!!
Hey alright Bree that’s what we’re talking about. Love this channel thanks for the video
❤❤❤❤good morning ❤❤❤❤
possibly you remember the old Briggs Stratton engines had a easy start crank on the shroud to compress a spring, and a release button on the shroud to release it to start it, no pull required. might be the same concept in a pull start without a release button.
I have an older Husqvarna 61 on the air filter cover.
a tip: if you are well able bodied, you don't want the easy start or the comfort grip options on a Stihl saw. those are made for people who don't have the body strength to manhandle a saw. - the average user can break the starter and handle subchassis on those by drop starting it or by powering it into the wood.
Awesome
The cool neato features on Husqv for x torque and smart start....the same exact feature on Poulan Pro 18" and 20" Yes smart start is simply a wrap spring in the plastic starter pawl hub. When you pull rope a spring compresses and then turns flywheel. All it is doing is absorbing compression from piston. Nothing more, nothing less. Poulan pro calls it EPS - effortless pull system.
This is a surprisingly interesting video. I gather that you are an Echo fan.
All three brands have certain models that are my faves.
I have a 1997 Husqvarna 51 with a 16" bar (also has an 18). I like that better than the Stihl MS 251 with an 18" bar. The Stihl is OK, but it has that "easy start" feature that takes some getting used to.
Fantastic explanation! Just wishing that had been time to cover the old Stihl "0" series... Like my Prized 028 Super 💯❤️
It's pretty much the same. They just moved the zero from the front to the end as the first model variation. For example the 028 turned into the MS280 and then the MS 281.
@Chickanic Aha! Brilliant... or just convenient? TY
Ow! My head hurts!!😊
As a homeowner I purchased a Stihl MS 250, from the research I did I felt this was more than adequate to handle around the home jobs, time will tell if I made a good choice?
If I wanted one just in case that would be used maybe once or twice a year. What model do you recommend?
The official description of the Husqvarna Chainsaw Smart Start is that it "evens out the increase of momentum that develops when the piston reaches its highest level", this combined with a Google search of reviews of the system, universally described, beyond some carburetor tweaks, as a standard cord pull with a compression release.
Nice explanation! I was thinking about an Echo but Huskvarna sounds like it has some nice features. From a repair point of view, which do you personally recommend?
my old stihl is an 028 AVEQS or an 028 super as commonly known. but that was bought in 1985
husqvarna's first generation mtronic is actually bought from stihl cuz the eu didnt want a monopoly. if you own or buy one keep the air filter clean. a plugged filter leans out the mixture and you will burn this up!!! routine maintenance if your friend! as for the smart start if memory serves me right the coil pack retards the timing up to a certain rpm then over that goes to regular mode.
I use craftsman. Who makes them? I have a 1988 model and a 2018 one. Both work fine.
Now I'm even more confused! But thanks anyway - BTW, Stihl's MS means Motorsäge (motor Saw). And I still don't know what the MS 029 Super stands for as I have forgotten what the salesman told me 35 years ago! But we now have four saws, ranging from a little Husky cordless, thru the MS500i and on to the Husky 592XP. And yes, it will tear down a forest - or put wheels on it and drive to the shops!
029 has a displacement of 2.9 cubic inches.
@@terryburke2587 So about 48cc - sounds about right! But why would a German company use cubic inches, even in Germany?
@@andrewgraeme8429 I’m guessing that numbering system was just for the USA market. They probably had a different model # for the rest of the world.
HEY! What about Craftsman 😂
What about McCulloch?
no one cares lmao
craftsman are who ever got the contract. most of the older ones are poulans as were john deere chain saws
I am average homeowner and do not use a chain saw often. Gas is very problematic for my use, once a year. I have one wired electric cord 14 inch, nice works well and comes with a 12 ft pole. Chain saw on a pole is to heavy, may sell it. I have a 80 amp electric work. Works well and battery last longer than I do. I saw palm trees and need to sharpen or replace blades often. I think I do not hear much about, need to grease the tip of the chain bar. Use a rubber tip on the grease gun.
What about a sthil 0025?
Sorry that was 025
nope. I went in, got the brochure, and went home and studied it to determine what features and options suited my needs best. and that's how I have the model with the highest power to weight ratio in the class I wanted. (MS260PRO)
Haven’t watched th video yet. But when I read the title, my immediate thought was that’s falling down a rabbit hole; untangling four balls of knotted string; juggling cats while training a hamster and being chased by dog.
What’s the 029 mean, I’m just another one of your groupies checking in.
2.9 cubic inches.
I have a question for ya all does Stihl make a 4+ chainsaw
My stihl has a model number and it's a stihl 085. It died on me and it was just the ignition module.
older stihls used a different numbering system before they started using ms
Having the model's number lets me call her at home. That way, she can tell me personally that sh won't go out with me, rather than just having her manager remind me that she is WAY out of my league.
Rest easy big boy, with your sense of humor you can bet she has your number !😅
Try the Professional Model
$800 for the CS2511T ?!! Are they kidding?
The are $499.99