damn if only C9 had picked a coach that focused heavily on drafts and unique picks like LS maybe they could have been more competitive this series. We all know that will never happen though
@@erdenebayar777 they camped top because if Renekton falls behind, he's useless. Get your ego in check and just admit the draft was garbage, REGARDLESS of who the fuck was coaching. IDC about LS this or Mark Waldo that, the drafting was complete GARBAGE this series.
Imagine if C9 had a coach who could draft. C9 would be a top tier team. Also imagine if they had a support like Vulcan? Jeesh. Summit went like 2/15. Biggest fall from grace ever?
Yea one single awful series where u get camped and ur entire's team only way to win the game, by playing through top, doesnt work anymore makes summit a bad player actually. Hes been a top tier toplaner for years before joining C9 but this series changed EVERYTHING I guess
Pretty sure Summit did it for the church. Ls says renekton is trash so he goes 0 13 in two games to prove a point. Nah but holy shit c9 is garbage right now. Bring back ivern karma zilean and just buff Berserker. He was 1v5.
@@Schmidty1 im sorry but arguing that tanks malphite, ornn, sion... aren't being picked because LCS top laners aren't good enough is ridiculous. It literally can't be a mechanics issue. And fundamentals transfer between champions. There is no way that in a week these players couldn't figure out these champs, let alone the entire 2 month split. .
@@joshuakimpinski4679 youre not gonna play strong side if youre playing tank. The champs arent hard, but playing weak side is. This series is a great example of summit playing weakside insanely poorly cuz he dies 5 times in every lane. Obviously malphite is easy to play but u gotta be able to play weakside and the entire LCS plays through top right now. Players like broken blade are very good strong side players but he has always been shit bad weakside. Wunder is an amazing weak side player but it also took him years to be able to
No casters and just crowd in the background is so dope it feels like casters actually make the games worse, although i can't separate how much the co-stream affects my perception of this
So... Renata's just bad, no? In 2 games she got like a total of 3 revives, and her ult did literally nothing every time she pressed it, even when hitting it on all 5. Her E shield is pathetic, along with the damage that goes with it. Kinda seems like she needs a buff, she's just a worse lulu in her current state.
Renata is a champion that needs to be in a specific comp vs a specific comp, she is very very situational. She is rather a defensive support, which means she is good vs teams who try to engage and jump onto you, however, you need some kind of cc in order to make a use of her kit, she can't win the teamfight only with her ult and this is what makes her tricky and difficult to play. She is not that good when you try to engage on the enemy team, though, her ult holds a lot more value when used for disengages. Defensive supports like Lulu e.g. are not that good right now since the meta is rather oriented towards hard engages and aggressive teamfighting. So, Nautilus, Alistar, Leona, Thresh, Tahm Kench, Braum give teams more value, as they can also be a frontline and soak damage. Renata can't be a frontline, this is another disadvantage when using her. I am personally tired of Riot releasing situational champs that in one scenario work wonders, but in another suck d*ck. This doesn't only apply for Support role but for every other role. This overall means that the meta consists of 15-20 champions which work in almost every scenario and all others are useless, unless you pair in them in a specific comp and you know you can beat/challenge the opposing team. Riot needs to work on giving champs more flexibility and more universal kit.
@@plamenilarionov3413 Whenever engage is meta, so are defensive Champs like lulu, Janna, etc. They keep their team alive and let them survive the engage, which a lot of the time is better than engaging yourself. There's a counter to every role in the game. Also Braum is dogshit lmao, has been for years and will be for years. He needs a rework.
I think only the top 3 teams in NA or top 2 can go to lower bracket if they did ever lose but lower bracket is not a bracket you would want to be in because you face more opponents and have to work your way up all the way to the top basically beat everyone and if you've ever been defeated you're out for good. But this is such an advantage for the people who are in the main bracket because let's say all the people in the main bracket have went up against each other and the one who gets into the Finals are just waiting for you basically they have about a day or two to rest and watch your games while you're still fighting your way up to their bracket and the main bracket team has more practice than you do. You're basically have to sweat your a$$ off because they had more practice and rest than you do. I remember TSM when they had to work all the way from the bottom to the top and ended up winning the LCS. That was pretty sick. They basically won against every single LCS team and took the trophy lol
it’s not even fun to watch this after watching T1 play lmao the skill gap is so obvious, drafts are dog shit compared to LCK, players are out of sync, only players with insane mechanics are Berserker and sometimes summit everyone else sucks
How do you watch LCK games without falling asleep. They’re so slow. If you want high paced gameplay with good quality LPL is by far the best region but my favorite region is LEC because of the casters and content like skits and songs.
@@cyberkiller4291 this was true a few years ago but if you actually look at LCK games nowadays, they've adapted the LPL style where its a calculated fiesta with a lot of 4 man dives in the sidelanes except it's actually much cleaner executed than LPL right now.
Closer's Lee Sin is way too good, I still remember him popping off last summer playoffs. Glad to see nothing's changed
23:05 the second i saw the kill happen, i already knew meteos would say something
Closer lee sin was an absolute behemoth in this series. Also summits kryptonite being tanks is hilarious.
tanks + 5 bans + perm camp
@@IFernedYou damn i guess he has no choice but to be pushed up to enemy tower when lee sin is coming and go 0/7
@@MrWizardjr9 You clearly are bronze if you want him to play afk weakside top lane while playing a early game champ
damn if only C9 had picked a coach that focused heavily on drafts and unique picks like LS maybe they could have been more competitive this series. We all know that will never happen though
They would’ve lost with or without LS lol you fan boys are so cringe
@@anthonydominguez4744 at least he would not pick renekton TWICE
@@shiroekudo960 they were legit camping top, there s no way summit can do anything about that. they just needed to play around their bot more i guess
@@erdenebayar777 they camped top because if Renekton falls behind, he's useless. Get your ego in check and just admit the draft was garbage, REGARDLESS of who the fuck was coaching. IDC about LS this or Mark Waldo that, the drafting was complete GARBAGE this series.
@@TheMrAsianSantaClaus you dont have to assume everybody is arguing with you and just say it. no need to be aggressive.
So that's what doublelift thought he was going to do vs Crown's Victor
closer sold his items for ga when he needed to defend. pretty heads up
Straight up saved the game with the GA stall
23:03 this is what DL thought he was going to do back then
Imagine if C9 had a coach who could draft. C9 would be a top tier team. Also imagine if they had a support like Vulcan? Jeesh. Summit went like 2/15. Biggest fall from grace ever?
Biggest fall from grace since Humanoid's 1/14/9 TF in G3-5 vs Rogue
Blaming draft solely on coach is wrong. It’s the team as a whole.
Yea one single awful series where u get camped and ur entire's team only way to win the game, by playing through top, doesnt work anymore makes summit a bad player actually. Hes been a top tier toplaner for years before joining C9 but this series changed EVERYTHING I guess
Pretty sure Summit did it for the church. Ls says renekton is trash so he goes 0 13 in two games to prove a point. Nah but holy shit c9 is garbage right now. Bring back ivern karma zilean and just buff Berserker. He was 1v5.
they had way more issues than just draft
Still can't believe it took the entire spit for pro teams to remember armor stacking tanks exist in a gnar/graves/trynd top xin/hec/Lee jg meta.
The thing is these lcs tops are absolutely terrible at playing tanks except ssumday and maybe bwipo. Meta suits 100T very nicely tbh.
@@Schmidty1 impact is known for his weak side tank plays as well
@@Schmidty1 im sorry but arguing that tanks malphite, ornn, sion... aren't being picked because LCS top laners aren't good enough is ridiculous. It literally can't be a mechanics issue. And fundamentals transfer between champions. There is no way that in a week these players couldn't figure out these champs, let alone the entire 2 month split. .
@@Schmidty1 true. bwipo plays tank picks better than pretty much any NA top imo
@@joshuakimpinski4679 youre not gonna play strong side if youre playing tank. The champs arent hard, but playing weak side is. This series is a great example of summit playing weakside insanely poorly cuz he dies 5 times in every lane. Obviously malphite is easy to play but u gotta be able to play weakside and the entire LCS plays through top right now. Players like broken blade are very good strong side players but he has always been shit bad weakside. Wunder is an amazing weak side player but it also took him years to be able to
meteos is too fuckin funny in these costreams man
13:28 Jesus fuck doublelift. My ears are bleeding
"dont play for kda when ur 0/5/ just send it" im so fckking weak bro (15:05)
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the only thing meteos ever says in earnest is "zhonya j4 good". every other thing he says is pure trolling
13:30 yep im awake now
No casters and just crowd in the background is so dope it feels like casters actually make the games worse, although i can't separate how much the co-stream affects my perception of this
Imo captain flowers and azael are only amazing casters that I always can look forward to... also letigrass best caster...
Ssumday taking one for the team, playing 3 games of ornn
leena's OF would basically retire them both.
27:09 the conclusion
Closer is 100% not gett8ng Lee sin any more these playoffs lmaoooo
*22:37** Cracked*
Playoff Closer, same as last time 🤣🤣 LS, Viego bans incoming
Don't forget Dianan bans.
Watching this I just kept tilting my head when the renekton came up.
So... Renata's just bad, no? In 2 games she got like a total of 3 revives, and her ult did literally nothing every time she pressed it, even when hitting it on all 5. Her E shield is pathetic, along with the damage that goes with it. Kinda seems like she needs a buff, she's just a worse lulu in her current state.
Renata is a champion that needs to be in a specific comp vs a specific comp, she is very very situational. She is rather a defensive support, which means she is good vs teams who try to engage and jump onto you, however, you need some kind of cc in order to make a use of her kit, she can't win the teamfight only with her ult and this is what makes her tricky and difficult to play. She is not that good when you try to engage on the enemy team, though, her ult holds a lot more value when used for disengages. Defensive supports like Lulu e.g. are not that good right now since the meta is rather oriented towards hard engages and aggressive teamfighting. So, Nautilus, Alistar, Leona, Thresh, Tahm Kench, Braum give teams more value, as they can also be a frontline and soak damage. Renata can't be a frontline, this is another disadvantage when using her. I am personally tired of Riot releasing situational champs that in one scenario work wonders, but in another suck d*ck. This doesn't only apply for Support role but for every other role. This overall means that the meta consists of 15-20 champions which work in almost every scenario and all others are useless, unless you pair in them in a specific comp and you know you can beat/challenge the opposing team. Riot needs to work on giving champs more flexibility and more universal kit.
Also the best comp to go with it is to pick reset champs like jinx, aatrox, zeri etc.
@@plamenilarionov3413 Whenever engage is meta, so are defensive Champs like lulu, Janna, etc. They keep their team alive and let them survive the engage, which a lot of the time is better than engaging yourself. There's a counter to every role in the game. Also Braum is dogshit lmao, has been for years and will be for years. He needs a rework.
Closer gap
Just ban Lee Sin, wtf 😂
The end of the video song makes me sad
Closers sick
yeah no LS what do we expect from c9
1/13/1 after first 2 games lol xD how could this guy go pro
I'm glad at least doublelift is on the side of the boys about Leena's Onlyfans xD
Closer is good in NA, then you compare it to Oner's and you'll realize how mediocre NA lee sins are
As bayraklari as as as as! Good commentary from Double enjoyed it more than the regular highlights ✌🏼👍🏼
NA players will question and criticize everything their region is doing ingame but do the same thing when they play xd
Doublelift is like the Locodoco of the trio
So C9 got trashed with a composition and then went and picked the exact same composition expecting... what exactly?
“If we don’t int early game we definitely won’t lose this time guys! Totally not a draft gap! Summits renk is amazing and not 0/13/2”
classic tank tops win games in playoffs ^^ his adc must be happy wiht such frontline :)
nice
I’m too dummy to look up how playoffs work, is c9 out?
no they go to loser bracket so technically they could still win playoffs
I think only the top 3 teams in NA or top 2 can go to lower bracket if they did ever lose but lower bracket is not a bracket you would want to be in because you face more opponents and have to work your way up all the way to the top basically beat everyone and if you've ever been defeated you're out for good. But this is such an advantage for the people who are in the main bracket because let's say all the people in the main bracket have went up against each other and the one who gets into the Finals are just waiting for you basically they have about a day or two to rest and watch your games while you're still fighting your way up to their bracket and the main bracket team has more practice than you do. You're basically have to sweat your a$$ off because they had more practice and rest than you do. I remember TSM when they had to work all the way from the bottom to the top and ended up winning the LCS. That was pretty sick. They basically won against every single LCS team and took the trophy lol
Top 4 teams in NA play in upper bracket whoever loses go to lower bracket vsing 5/6th place teams
@@peytonsmith1062 top 4 start in winners bracket. Any of them can drop to losers where 5th and 6th place start
I see, thx for the replies :)
Spoiler: C9 did all this on purpose to get the easy way to the finals. Ok no
durr give them ornn every game fire LS lol
“3 levels below your adc is never happening in solo queue”
Me who plays bard with my friend and it happens all the time: 😎
idk i feel like Blaber needs to be benched... cause he didnt show anything this whole series...
ggez
Fudge is the weakest one in that c9 team
0/7/0 first game, locks in 3 bullies and ints 3 games in a row, but nah fudge played worse. Every member besides berserker looked awful this series
Gg
LULW C9 IS SO BAD LULW
🇹🇷
Flop C9
it’s not even fun to watch this after watching T1 play lmao the skill gap is so obvious, drafts are dog shit compared to LCK, players are out of sync, only players with insane mechanics are Berserker and sometimes summit everyone else sucks
What a weird take
How do you watch LCK games without falling asleep. They’re so slow. If you want high paced gameplay with good quality LPL is by far the best region but my favorite region is LEC because of the casters and content like skits and songs.
@@cyberkiller4291 this was true a few years ago but if you actually look at LCK games nowadays, they've adapted the LPL style where its a calculated fiesta with a lot of 4 man dives in the sidelanes except it's actually much cleaner executed than LPL right now.
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