Sincerely believe he was Billy the kid!it wasn't just for fame,if so he could've done so way before he did when he was younger,but he waited until he was in his last year's to admit his wrongs,and he never wanted anything in return,just a pardon,that's it!
It was definitely him. I have known about Brushy Bill Robert's for years and always believed it. I now have all the proof I need after listening to William Tunstill for 4 hours & 20 minutes. He did not leave a stone unturned.
Loved hearing how Billy became a born again Christian. This explains why A. Brushy Bill did not seek fame or money. B. That he was telling the truth. C. He's now spiritually in a better place than Pat Garrett. D. Explains why he didn't continue with the violent life he had known.
This from "Find A Grave" regarding Mr. Tunstill..... "A graduate of Central High School, Stamford and Texas Christian Universities, he was revered as a teacher and administrator in the Fort Worth school system where he was employed for almost four decades. These years were spent as a historian, author and in service as vice principal of McLean Junior High School and Polytechnic High School. He was a member of University Baptist Church of Fort Worth, as well as local state and national retired teachers associations."
Fantastic job on your speech and I believe it is 100% accurate. It just makes sense. I'd like to see the same thing done for Bonnie and Clyde. They were outlaws and did some wrong but I don't believe they did half of what they were accused of doing and certainly didn't deserve to be brutally murdered like they were. Thank you for all your effort and reserch.Well done.
Brushy Bill, was indeed Billy the Kid. A fella by the name of Billy Barlow lays in the gravesite in Lincoln NM. This is known, but they will not recognize it, because of the tourism in Lincoln. The museum, the gravesite, the courthouse.........all of these historical markers, bring in tons of tourism for Lincoln, and they likely will never give that up. It's quite a shame, because the continuing story of the kid, is quite interesting. I was glad to find this piece of information, to add to what I already know. Billy the kid, did not die at the hand of Pat Garrett.
Actually it doesn’t bring lots of tourism, I know I’ve been to fort sumner & lincoln, both are a rich in history (not just from billy the kid) thats what keeps them open cuz you know, NM DOES HAVE historic sites just like any other state. I wish someday they would somehow find Billy‘s grave and dig him up & do DNA testing that way everybody can shut the fuck up about brushy bill being BTK & quit ruining NM’s history!!!!!
Ollinger who was a friend of Bob beckwith that Billy had shot used to Pat the shotgun and said these have special shells the feller that gets these will sure know it and Billy told him just make sure you're not the feller and I'll be damned if he didn't shoot olinger with that same shotgun so he was the feller that was Billy the kids sense of humor it is said he danced and after he broke the shotgun he danced and laughed and carried on a comic show and everything and they said he left town very very slowly not rushing out of town like they say
Another interesting thing is they got brushy Bill's name from a man that was using an alias that claimed to be Jesse Evans Jesse Evans escaped them till in the Lincoln New Mexico and he disappeared from history well that's how they got brushy Bill's name and he said not only am I still alive just yet and she said the kid is also still alive and he goes by the name brushy bill so if Jesse and is disappeared from history and that man was Jesse Evans then we know what happened to him too and he lived to a nice ripe old age as well m they said at that time only two men were unaccounted for Jesse Evans another man named McMillan and it would be three if you count Billy the kid and okay brush your bill this guy that was Jesse Evans and that left McMillan still unaccounted for Billy seems to have the sixth sense and although no one lives a charm life I think he seemed to sense when danger was around and there is no way he would go into Pete Maxwell's room with two strange men on the porch unarmed the man that says Billy was shot the grandson of the man that was there said Billy was shot from the porch he wasn't even given a chance to go into the room and his deputies said till the day both of them died that Pat Garrett shot the wrong man
Great informative stuff. Got into documentaries about Billy the kid recently. This interview from Mr. Tunstill contains very strong facts about Brushy Bill AKA Billy the kid. Did anyone ever challenge Mr.Tunstill about his statements in his interview here?
The truth has a ring to it I believe that and this rings true to me. I believe that Billy was a victim of circumstance seriously it's not hard to imagine just look at what's done to those today that try to do what is right. Those guilty of crime will do and kill anyone they can to hide the truth because they are cowards and I believe they tried to do that to Billy but he wouldn't take their BS and fought back and that's what really got him in trouble the real criminals can't have the average person knowing that they can stand up for themselves because if that ever happens they will be shown for the cowards they are. The a passage in the Bible that says all of the people will walk past Satan and say is this the man that terrified the world I'm just paraphrasing but I think it means if the people ever figure out that these people aren't nearly as scary as people think they are finished and that is why they wanted him so bad because he wasn't scared to kick em in the teeth just my opinion. I would like to know more about what he did after he went into hiding so to speak.
Mr Roberts had too much intimate knowledge of the actors and events leading up to and during the Lincoln County War, as well as the night Garrett supposedly shot The Kid, to be anyone else. To convince me Roberts isn't The Kid, you'd have to find someone who all those historians missed, that participated in the Lincoln County War and was very close to Billy the Kid. The kicker for me is the fact that at the time Brushy Roberts gave his accounting of events, most of the accepted histories of The Kid and the Lincoln County War were rife with inaccuracies and Mr Robert's accounting, in several cases, were contrary to what those historians had published. Later, every single accounting given by Brushy Roberts was proven to be accurate through eye-witness accounting and subsequent historical records that surfaced after the fact. I, for one, am glad that Billy the Kid made it out of Lincoln alive, and went on to live a full life. He was not a cold blooded killer. When Tunstall took the Kid in after a very difficult childhood and showed him kindness, he endeared himself to the Kid and when Brady and his men murdered Tunstall, the Kid did everything he could to avenge Tunstall and see justice done against a horribly corrupt government. RIP Billy, you've earned it and John Tunstall would be proud to have called you friend.
I wonder why he never mentioned, If Brushy Bill had large wrists, and small hands. That was just as important as the gun shot scars.Billy wasn't shot in the hip either. But the leg only, even the Tunstall Store in Lincoln confirms it. They followed the blood trail to the Tunstall store Billy was hid under the floor in Tunstall's bedroom. But They never found him..
@@brushybretI knew that, I was talking about Mr. Tunstill. This guy here claims to be the un-official step grandson to Billy the Kid- aka Brushy Bill. His story is pretty compelling. Check it out. th-cam.com/video/nd34jMnXMFU/w-d-xo.html
@@Charles53412 What I find most interesting is that he is the grandson of A.P. "Paco" Anaya, a man most supporters of the historical status quo claim helped "bury Billy the Kid" (and conducted one of the supposed coroner's inquests). And his grandson claims he and his family believe that not only did Garrett not kill Billy the Kid, but he was in fact, Brushy Bill Roberts.
Brett!!!! the thing is I think to prove Brushys story is proving that adeline dunn was Susan half sister !! I have located miss dunns grave in Buffalo gap!!!
Do you have a photograph of the grave or documentation? If so, I'd love to see it. Are you from the Buffalo Gap area? You can contact me at brushybret@yahoo.com
It was recorded in the 1980s and the man in the video is Dr. William A. Tunstill, he was the author of the book Billy The Kid And Me Were The Same and founder of The Westen History Research Center based out of Roswell, New Mexico.
We can prove pretty prove much everything he said he did via employment records, military service records, testimony from individuals who were with him during the times he claimed, and in some instances, newspaper articles. Thanks for watching.
I live close to Mesilla NM, moved here about six years ago, I love this, so glad to know someone has the truth about Billy. Thanks for posting this! What year was this originally recorded?
Imo,way too many "coincidences " for brushy bill Robert's and billy the kid,not to be one and same! Never mind about fact this guy never sought fame,ect. Just wanted to clear his name!
The tide is turning people, more are waking up to the lies in this world, one being the lie that scoundrel liar Garrett killed Billy. Brushy was Billy, and if all evidence was put on trial, Brushy Bill would be not only pardoned but recognised as Billy The Kid. Keep the truth going guys 🙂
If that bullet were still in his left calf wouldn't it still be there today ? I believe this is all true but that kind of bullet could be traced to the kind of gun it came from that is undeniable proof right there
We attempted to exhume the body in Ft. Sumner, New Mexico along with the body of Catherine Antrim in Silver City, William Henry "Brushy Bill" Roberts in Hamilton, Texas, and John Miller in Arizona in order to conduct DNA testing. Unfortunately, the powers that be in New Mexico prevented us from doing so by filing lawsuits and injunctions etc. etc. I will be covering this in a future video, or you can read about it in The Dirty on Billy the Kid by Steve Sederwall.
@@brushybret bodies arnt where the markers are, the whole cemetary was washed away when the river flooded it, those are just placed there as a guess where they used to be.
That was my contention as well. However, Ft. Sumner insists that Billy's under that headstone and the bodies weren't washed away or removed. This is all detailed in Steve Sederwall's book, The Dirty On Billy the Kid and Billy the Kid's Grave by David Thomas.
We actually tried to do this a few years ago and were fought every step of the way by the powers that be in New Mexico. The plan was to dig up the body in Ft. Sumner, Catherine Antrim in Silver City, Brushy Bill Roberts, and John Miller and test everyone to settle it once and for all. You can read all about this in, The Dirty on Billy the Kid by Steve Sederwall and Billy the Kid: Cold Case by W.C. Jameson. I'll be covering this in a future video. Thanks for watching.
he says billy wrote several letters to the governor, but also says he was illiterate (where he says brushy couldnt have simply read billys history in the newspapers) , which in inaccurate, billy was bilingual in english and Spanish, both verbal and written. billy was 5'4 not 5'8
I already did videos discussing this, thanks for watching. Brushy Bill Question of literacy th-cam.com/video/4m8H-TwLbFo/w-d-xo.html and Could Brushy Bill Speak Spanish here th-cam.com/video/oGVw1RMxjWg/w-d-xo.html
Why would any one put themselves in the potions that late in life Sure it wore hard on him knowing he was acqitted And never came to fruition Like promisied Just. Wasted to make the record straight Honest MAN
He is not Billy . Billy spoke fluent Spanish, could read and write perfectly, Robert was illiterate and could not speak any Spanish . And beside his Birth / age timeline is far out of sink with Billy!
I already did separate videos debunking each one of these claims. Debunking the claim that Roberts couldn't read and write: th-cam.com/video/4m8H-TwLbFo/w-d-xo.html Debunking the claim that Roberts couldn't speak Spanish: th-cam.com/video/oGVw1RMxjWg/w-d-xo.html Debunking the claim that he wasn't old enough to be Billy the Kid: th-cam.com/video/EK9oRxqmee0/w-d-xo.html
People like you need to research more before posting such statements. If Wikipedia is your source of e udence then it's sorely lacking. Hope Brett's research sets you straight.
I just wanna know exactly what it is your trying to prove???I understand the ROMANTICISM of Billy making it and living secretly his life out...but you have to ask yourself what is "POSSIBLE" vs What is "PROBABLE"....It is POSSIBLE Garret didnt kill him and he moved on and lived and was Brushy Bill....but what is PROBABLE is that Pat G killed Billy like it was written and he was buried....The POSSIBILITY of Him living INCOGNITO no matter the time frame and not contacting friends or family,Not announcing his Precense of being alive(Remember Billy was suppossedly headstrong)and Pat G keeping the whole plan secret and all that is NOT PROBABLE...and again in that old ladys interview she was coached and i dont care what she said in the 50's and in the 80's....She has a LOT OF HOLES....
You're making a lot of assumptions in your statement that aren't true. I will be covering the events at Ft. Sumner in the next chapter of my series, and you might be surprised to find out that evidence exists that he actually did make contact with some of his former friends. I don't believe, and Roberts never claimed that his escape was ever some elaborate plan, but rather Garrett simply forced to go along with it to save his own hide. If Roberts' account is correct that an innocent man was shot by mistake, then Garrett would be guilty of cold-blooded murder. While Garrett's ambush methods might seem justified in his killing of Folliard and Bowdre, Barlow wasn't an outlaw, nor was he a wanted man. I believe John Poe stated it best when he said to Garrett following the shooting that Pat killed the wrong man. I will be taking a deep dive into this in the coming weeks. As far as the interview, keep in mind, this video wasn't created for public consumption. It was part of Tunstill's research for his book he was in the process of writing titled, Billy the Kid and Me Were the Same. It's important to note that her statements and accounts were well documented decades before this interview ever took place and that Tunstill wasn't creating the narrative, as you implied. She was just old, she had a memory lapse...it happens to all of us at some point.
Wasn't Brushy Bill 20 years too young to be Billy the Kid? He would've been 2 years old when Billy was allegedly shot by Pat Garrett. And didn't members of Brushy Bill's own family state that he wasn't Billy? I don't doubt that Brushy Bill was an interesting man who may well have been involved in some kind of illegal activities in and around Lincoln County/New Mexico during his youth which naturally lead to him needing to conceal his real identity, but given his age, I just can't bring myself to believe he was Billy the Kid. Just because he knew a lot intricate details surrounding the life of Billy the Kid doesn't solidify his claim. If he moved in similar circles to Billy some years after the real Billy's death/disappearance, he could've easily found out all that he knew from people who may well indeed have known Billy personally. And while I accept that there was a resemblance to Billy in Brushy's younger years, my own eyes refuse to let me make the leap to believing that he actually was Billy. When I compare the 2 best photos we have of Billy, namely the famous tintype we all know and the Silver City photograph, and compare them to Brushy Bill's photos,...I'm sorry, but I just don't see a close enough resemblance. The eyes especially are just not right. And I don't care what some specialist photo recognition cop in New York says about that. Given Billy's natural ability to evade the law, it wouldn't surprise me at all if there is truth to the theory that he wasn't shot by Pat Garrett and indeed used the event to disappear into society under another identity. There seems to be more than enough evidence to support this theory if you go and read the books on the subject. The one thing I'm certain of, is that whoever is buried under that tombstone in Fort Sumner cemetery, it ain't Billy the Kid....if indeed there's anyone buried there at all. I'm sure the local business people will say he's there because of the financial benefits of the tourism aspect, but I'm sure the true feelings of the local residents are highly doubtful. Now there are just too many conflicting stories from all sorts of people recounting third hand information from individuals attempting to write themselves into Billy's legend that the real truths of the matter are no longer anything that can be proven outright. Whatever anyone believes about Billy is now sadly all down to personal opinion based on the information available. And it's not just Billy's story that gets re written facts mixed in with half truths and blatant lies and polished up to fit a convenient narrative,...ALL our history is subject to this same mistreatment.
I already published a video debunking the 1879 birth claim using census, employment, and genealogical records. And unlike those that seek to discredit Roberts by parroting the same old, tired, unsourced claims, I show you the supporting documents and sources on the screen as I'm citing them. th-cam.com/video/EK9oRxqmee0/w-d-xo.html Most of Roberts' family actually believe his claim, as I have about a dozen signed affidavits stating as such. As far as I know, only two vocal claimed family members have spoken out against him. One a very distant cousin who never met him and one who claims to be his niece, which is interesting because according to William Henry Roberts' family bible, he had no nieces. Roberts has no surviving close descendants, just step and distant relatives. As far as Roberts acquiring his esoteric knowledge of Billy's life through casual conversation with Bill's friends, I find this highly improbable, as no single individual was with Billy through his life to obtain such a complete picture. From his early days to his purported death at Ft. Sumner, Billy's circle of friends was constantly changing. How did Roberts know about the blood on the stairs in the Lincoln County jail? That the rock house at Stinking Springs had no door? That Tunstall was moving horses when he was killed as opposed to cattle, as most historians misstated until discovered by Fred Nolan, long after Roberts' death? How did he know about the letter to Wallace that wasn't known until after his death? The location of the meeting with Wallace etc. etc
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I believe in the words thoughts and evidence of Mr William Tunstill..
Sincerely believe he was Billy the kid!it wasn't just for fame,if so he could've done so way before he did when he was younger,but he waited until he was in his last year's to admit his wrongs,and he never wanted anything in return,just a pardon,that's it!
So many theories about Billy this one makes sense to me .
Yeah me too
There is no doubt in my mind this is 100% accurate ..
It was definitely him. I have known about Brushy Bill Robert's for years and always believed it. I now have all the proof I need after listening to William Tunstill for 4 hours & 20 minutes. He did not leave a stone unturned.
Loved hearing how Billy became a born again Christian.
This explains why
A. Brushy Bill did not seek fame or money.
B. That he was telling the truth.
C. He's now spiritually in a better place than Pat Garrett.
D. Explains why he didn't continue with the violent life he had known.
This from "Find A Grave" regarding Mr. Tunstill.....
"A graduate of Central High School, Stamford and Texas Christian Universities, he was revered as a teacher and administrator in the Fort Worth school system where he was employed for almost four decades. These years were spent as a historian, author and in service as vice principal of McLean Junior High School and Polytechnic High School. He was a member of University Baptist Church of Fort Worth, as well as local state and national retired teachers associations."
Was Mr Tunstill related to John Tunstill.I am from England but have always been fascinated with Billy the Kid.
BrushyBill/Billy the Kid I vote for
you to get a pardon as promised.
I do believe Billy became a new man after 1884 at the Baptist church in Idaho, while looking for his dad, where he found his true Father in Heaven!
Fantastic job on your speech and I believe it is 100% accurate. It just makes sense. I'd like to see the same thing done for Bonnie and Clyde. They were outlaws and did some wrong but I don't believe they did half of what they were accused of doing and certainly didn't deserve to be brutally murdered like they were. Thank you for all your effort and reserch.Well done.
Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow got exactly what they deserved. Frank Hamer was a hero.
From the time I was a child I did not Beleave Billy was killed By the Drunkard Pat Garret .
We love you kid...
After hearing multiple stories of this. There really isn't any doubt that brushy is Billy! Good facts that were presented.
Yes there is doubt
@@armyvet8279only if you're stupid 😂
If I were on a jury and asked to make a Yay or Nay, I would vote Yes/Yay.
Brushy Bill, was indeed Billy the Kid. A fella by the name of Billy Barlow lays in the gravesite in Lincoln NM. This is known, but they will not recognize it, because of the tourism in Lincoln. The museum, the gravesite, the courthouse.........all of these historical markers, bring in tons of tourism for Lincoln, and they likely will never give that up.
It's quite a shame, because the continuing story of the kid, is quite interesting. I was glad to find this piece of information, to add to what I already know. Billy the kid, did not die at the hand of Pat Garrett.
Actually it doesn’t bring lots of tourism, I know I’ve been to fort sumner & lincoln, both are a rich in history (not just from billy the kid) thats what keeps them open cuz you know, NM DOES HAVE historic sites just like any other state. I wish someday they would somehow find Billy‘s grave and dig him up & do DNA testing that way everybody can shut the fuck up about brushy bill being BTK & quit ruining NM’s history!!!!!
Yep heard the same thing Budgy Australia
100% facts, well said.
Billy the kid lived a long prosperous life
And so did Jesse James he faked his death died at the age of 100
@@thomas1112002 you are correct Sir
If he did, he wasn't Brushy Bill.
@@jay21281 very true
@@michaelkurz9067 BS
I hope that the historical record is set straight, and that Brushy Bill is recognized as Billy the Kid.
I love this historical piece of information. God bless you all!
Billy made it.and so did Jesse james.look at the history.thank you sir for your work.
Yep the interview on we the people he's talking about the friend was Jesse James they were life long friends
Ollinger who was a friend of Bob beckwith that Billy had shot used to Pat the shotgun and said these have special shells the feller that gets these will sure know it and Billy told him just make sure you're not the feller and I'll be damned if he didn't shoot olinger with that same shotgun so he was the feller that was Billy the kids sense of humor it is said he danced and after he broke the shotgun he danced and laughed and carried on a comic show and everything and they said he left town very very slowly not rushing out of town like they say
I pardon you Brushy Billy the Kid ❤️
Brushy Bill is Billy the Kid Brushy Bill died of a Heart Attack
Hey Bob good bye bob
Long live Bilito
Another interesting thing is they got brushy Bill's name from a man that was using an alias that claimed to be Jesse Evans Jesse Evans escaped them till in the Lincoln New Mexico and he disappeared from history well that's how they got brushy Bill's name and he said not only am I still alive just yet and she said the kid is also still alive and he goes by the name brushy bill so if Jesse and is disappeared from history and that man was Jesse Evans then we know what happened to him too and he lived to a nice ripe old age as well m they said at that time only two men were unaccounted for Jesse Evans another man named McMillan and it would be three if you count Billy the kid and okay brush your bill this guy that was Jesse Evans and that left McMillan still unaccounted for Billy seems to have the sixth sense and although no one lives a charm life I think he seemed to sense when danger was around and there is no way he would go into Pete Maxwell's room with two strange men on the porch unarmed the man that says Billy was shot the grandson of the man that was there said Billy was shot from the porch he wasn't even given a chance to go into the room and his deputies said till the day both of them died that Pat Garrett shot the wrong man
All our History is a lie Great work ♥️
Great channel Brett Hall...
I believe brusy bill was Billy the kid. Pat Garrett killed someone else or let Billy go.
Pat shot someone in the face with a shotgun. That's brutal but ......
No doubt for me ...
Great story sir!
Legend has it Chuck Norris feared only one man… Brushy Bill Roberts
It was him
Great informative stuff. Got into documentaries about Billy the kid recently. This interview from Mr. Tunstill contains very strong facts about Brushy Bill AKA Billy the kid. Did anyone ever challenge Mr.Tunstill about his statements in his interview here?
Thats what I was just wondering?
He was Billy the Kid
The truth has a ring to it I believe that and this rings true to me. I believe that Billy was a victim of circumstance seriously it's not hard to imagine just look at what's done to those today that try to do what is right. Those guilty of crime will do and kill anyone they can to hide the truth because they are cowards and I believe they tried to do that to Billy but he wouldn't take their BS and fought back and that's what really got him in trouble the real criminals can't have the average person knowing that they can stand up for themselves because if that ever happens they will be shown for the cowards they are. The a passage in the Bible that says all of the people will walk past Satan and say is this the man that terrified the world I'm just paraphrasing but I think it means if the people ever figure out that these people aren't nearly as scary as people think they are finished and that is why they wanted him so bad because he wasn't scared to kick em in the teeth just my opinion. I would like to know more about what he did after he went into hiding so to speak.
Exactly, and these kinds of people lied about 9/11, Kennedy murder and this plandemic. Evil rotten people. Secret society cultists.
God bless
Mr Roberts had too much intimate knowledge of the actors and events leading up to and during the Lincoln County War, as well as the night Garrett supposedly shot The Kid, to be anyone else. To convince me Roberts isn't The Kid, you'd have to find someone who all those historians missed, that participated in the Lincoln County War and was very close to Billy the Kid. The kicker for me is the fact that at the time Brushy Roberts gave his accounting of events, most of the accepted histories of The Kid and the Lincoln County War were rife with inaccuracies and Mr Robert's accounting, in several cases, were contrary to what those historians had published. Later, every single accounting given by Brushy Roberts was proven to be accurate through eye-witness accounting and subsequent historical records that surfaced after the fact. I, for one, am glad that Billy the Kid made it out of Lincoln alive, and went on to live a full life. He was not a cold blooded killer. When Tunstall took the Kid in after a very difficult childhood and showed him kindness, he endeared himself to the Kid and when Brady and his men murdered Tunstall, the Kid did everything he could to avenge Tunstall and see justice done against a horribly corrupt government. RIP Billy, you've earned it and John Tunstall would be proud to have called you friend.
I wonder why he never mentioned, If Brushy Bill had large wrists, and small hands. That was just as important as the gun shot scars.Billy wasn't shot in the hip either. But the leg only, even the Tunstall Store in Lincoln confirms it. They followed the blood trail to the Tunstall store Billy was hid under the floor in Tunstall's bedroom. But They never found him..
In Alias Billy the Kid, Morrison discusses Brushy's large wrists and small hands and even demonstrated how he was able to escape from handcuffs.
@@brushybretI knew that, I was talking about Mr. Tunstill. This guy here claims to be the un-official step grandson to Billy the Kid- aka Brushy Bill. His story is pretty compelling. Check it out. th-cam.com/video/nd34jMnXMFU/w-d-xo.html
@@Charles53412 What I find most interesting is that he is the grandson of A.P. "Paco" Anaya, a man most supporters of the historical status quo claim helped "bury Billy the Kid" (and conducted one of the supposed coroner's inquests). And his grandson claims he and his family believe that not only did Garrett not kill Billy the Kid, but he was in fact, Brushy Bill Roberts.
John Tunstill relative?
@@brushybret correct
Brett!!!! the thing is I think to prove Brushys story is proving that adeline dunn was Susan half sister !! I have located miss dunns grave in Buffalo gap!!!
Do you have a photograph of the grave or documentation? If so, I'd love to see it. Are you from the Buffalo Gap area? You can contact me at brushybret@yahoo.com
Sounds true
This was published on TH-cam in 2017, but when was it recorded? And who is the gentleman speaking? Great video!
It was recorded in the 1980s and the man in the video is Dr. William A. Tunstill, he was the author of the book Billy The Kid And Me Were The Same and founder of The Westen History Research Center based out of Roswell, New Mexico.
William turnstile recorded1952
Sorry 1980s sorry
Brushy Bill Roberts did everything short of landing on the moon 👌
We can prove pretty prove much everything he said he did via employment records, military service records, testimony from individuals who were with him during the times he claimed, and in some instances, newspaper articles. Thanks for watching.
Is this guy related to Billy’s friend Tunstill?
That was my question thanks
No, different spelling
Yeah, and Roy Haws makes the preposterous claim that Brushy made himself older to be able to apply for social security.
5:39....mr marston was able to get him some water......mr marston.....head explodes....
I live close to Mesilla NM, moved here about six years ago, I love this, so glad to know someone has the truth about Billy. Thanks for posting this! What year was this originally recorded?
I don't know the exact date as the VHS tape that I transferred it from wasn't labeled, but I believe it was in 1985 or 1986.
I grew up on the West side of El Paso, know Mesilla well. You are probably in the middle of Stahman Farms
Imo,way too many "coincidences " for brushy bill Robert's and billy the kid,not to be one and same!
Never mind about fact this guy never sought fame,ect.
Just wanted to clear his name!
There's so much to know about Billy's life if its myth and fact I would love to know
It's all there now.. lots of bad stories lifted
Read Brett's book then!!
The Real Billy The Kid AKA Brushy Bill Roberts by Brett Hall's, who runs thus channel.
The tide is turning people, more are waking up to the lies in this world, one being the lie that scoundrel liar Garrett killed Billy.
Brushy was Billy, and if all evidence was put on trial, Brushy Bill would be not only pardoned but recognised as Billy The Kid.
Keep the truth going guys 🙂
Hiya Brett,,I wonder if that meeting with the governor stressed brushy alot and had a big part of his death..
I believe it did! Thanks for watching.
@@brushybret ,,So sad though,,I think the governor should have done more research first..
Only 2 people know the truth
More than 2 do.
What does the Bonnie family say about this?
Weird how ol boy from Florida was who he said he was but brushy wasn't 🤔
boy from Florida and who would that be
the attorney Morrison actually a magazine writer was actually from st.louis mo just living in Florida at the time
Billy liked dairty songs didn't he
How is it that you can track brushy from birth to death through the voters roll ?
If that bullet were still in his left calf wouldn't it still be there today ? I believe this is all true but that kind of bullet could be traced to the kind of gun it came from that is undeniable proof right there
half to take ground radar to fort summner and see if anyone is buried where they say bill is buried, only way to do it
We attempted to exhume the body in Ft. Sumner, New Mexico along with the body of Catherine Antrim in Silver City, William Henry "Brushy Bill" Roberts in Hamilton, Texas, and John Miller in Arizona in order to conduct DNA testing. Unfortunately, the powers that be in New Mexico prevented us from doing so by filing lawsuits and injunctions etc. etc. I will be covering this in a future video, or you can read about it in The Dirty on Billy the Kid by Steve Sederwall.
@@brushybret bodies arnt where the markers are, the whole cemetary was washed away when the river flooded it, those are just placed there as a guess where they used to be.
That was my contention as well. However, Ft. Sumner insists that Billy's under that headstone and the bodies weren't washed away or removed. This is all detailed in Steve Sederwall's book, The Dirty On Billy the Kid and Billy the Kid's Grave by David Thomas.
@@brushybret that because new mexico does not want to lose tourist by proving then wrong new mexico is afraid
They need to make a series like Yellowstone on Netflix.
Your on to something here
Get DNA
We actually tried to do this a few years ago and were fought every step of the way by the powers that be in New Mexico. The plan was to dig up the body in Ft. Sumner, Catherine Antrim in Silver City, Brushy Bill Roberts, and John Miller and test everyone to settle it once and for all. You can read all about this in, The Dirty on Billy the Kid by Steve Sederwall and Billy the Kid: Cold Case by W.C. Jameson. I'll be covering this in a future video. Thanks for watching.
@@brushybret can't wait for these videos. Great work. Loving all these videos.
Relationship to John tunstill?
I believe the English gentleman’s name was John Tunstall NOT Tunstill. 🙂
He died in 1950
he says billy wrote several letters to the governor, but also says he was illiterate (where he says brushy couldnt have simply read billys history in the newspapers) , which in inaccurate, billy was bilingual in english and Spanish, both verbal and written. billy was 5'4 not 5'8
I already did videos discussing this, thanks for watching. Brushy Bill Question of literacy th-cam.com/video/4m8H-TwLbFo/w-d-xo.html and Could Brushy Bill Speak Spanish here th-cam.com/video/oGVw1RMxjWg/w-d-xo.html
Billy was 5'8' here is a video in which I cite the sources that prove it. th-cam.com/video/Y8KpyQTdBfk/w-d-xo.html
Billy the kid was 5’8. And brushy bill had a 95% facial Recognition done by the fbi.
I was told that he was literate and the claims that he was illiterate are false. They were proven false.
@@brushybret correct
We will never know the truth ! I thank thats obvious.
brushy bill would have been 11-yrs old when they say billy the kid died !
I already made a video debunking this: th-cam.com/video/EK9oRxqmee0/w-d-xo.html
Pat garrith helped Billy escape
So he married his wife in his 60's ???
Why would any one put themselves in the potions that late in life
Sure it wore hard on him knowing he was acqitted
And never came to fruition
Like promisied
Just. Wasted to make the record straight
Honest MAN
Couldn’t speak Spanish tho , could he …..
Billy the kid spoke fluent Spanish 👍
I already did a video debunking the claim that Roberts couldn't speak Spanish. Thanks for watching. th-cam.com/video/oGVw1RMxjWg/w-d-xo.html
He spoke fluent Spanish. Why would Severos Gallegos lie.
He is not Billy . Billy spoke fluent Spanish, could read and write perfectly, Robert was illiterate and could not speak any Spanish . And beside his Birth / age timeline is far out of sink with Billy!
I already did separate videos debunking each one of these claims. Debunking the claim that Roberts couldn't read and write: th-cam.com/video/4m8H-TwLbFo/w-d-xo.html
Debunking the claim that Roberts couldn't speak Spanish: th-cam.com/video/oGVw1RMxjWg/w-d-xo.html
Debunking the claim that he wasn't old enough to be Billy the Kid: th-cam.com/video/EK9oRxqmee0/w-d-xo.html
@@brushybret thank you !
People like you need to research more before posting such statements.
If Wikipedia is your source of e udence then it's sorely lacking.
Hope Brett's research sets you straight.
I just wanna know exactly what it is your trying to prove???I understand the ROMANTICISM of Billy making it and living secretly his life out...but you have to ask yourself what is "POSSIBLE" vs What is "PROBABLE"....It is POSSIBLE Garret didnt kill him and he moved on and lived and was Brushy Bill....but what is PROBABLE is that Pat G killed Billy like it was written and he was buried....The POSSIBILITY of Him living INCOGNITO no matter the time frame and not contacting friends or family,Not announcing his Precense of being alive(Remember Billy was suppossedly headstrong)and Pat G keeping the whole plan secret and all that is NOT PROBABLE...and again in that old ladys interview she was coached and i dont care what she said in the 50's and in the 80's....She has a LOT OF HOLES....
You're making a lot of assumptions in your statement that aren't true. I will be covering the events at Ft. Sumner in the next chapter of my series, and you might be surprised to find out that evidence exists that he actually did make contact with some of his former friends. I don't believe, and Roberts never claimed that his escape was ever some elaborate plan, but rather Garrett simply forced to go along with it to save his own hide. If Roberts' account is correct that an innocent man was shot by mistake, then Garrett would be guilty of cold-blooded murder. While Garrett's ambush methods might seem justified in his killing of Folliard and Bowdre, Barlow wasn't an outlaw, nor was he a wanted man. I believe John Poe stated it best when he said to Garrett following the shooting that Pat killed the wrong man. I will be taking a deep dive into this in the coming weeks. As far as the interview, keep in mind, this video wasn't created for public consumption. It was part of Tunstill's research for his book he was in the process of writing titled, Billy the Kid and Me Were the Same. It's important to note that her statements and accounts were well documented decades before this interview ever took place and that Tunstill wasn't creating the narrative, as you implied. She was just old, she had a memory lapse...it happens to all of us at some point.
I heard Brushy was a Championship fighter and traveled to other countries to break horses. Is that true?
Wasn't Brushy Bill 20 years too young to be Billy the Kid? He would've been 2 years old when Billy was allegedly shot by Pat Garrett. And didn't members of Brushy Bill's own family state that he wasn't Billy? I don't doubt that Brushy Bill was an interesting man who may well have been involved in some kind of illegal activities in and around Lincoln County/New Mexico during his youth which naturally lead to him needing to conceal his real identity, but given his age, I just can't bring myself to believe he was Billy the Kid. Just because he knew a lot intricate details surrounding the life of Billy the Kid doesn't solidify his claim. If he moved in similar circles to Billy some years after the real Billy's death/disappearance, he could've easily found out all that he knew from people who may well indeed have known Billy personally. And while I accept that there was a resemblance to Billy in Brushy's younger years, my own eyes refuse to let me make the leap to believing that he actually was Billy. When I compare the 2 best photos we have of Billy, namely the famous tintype we all know and the Silver City photograph, and compare them to Brushy Bill's photos,...I'm sorry, but I just don't see a close enough resemblance. The eyes especially are just not right. And I don't care what some specialist photo recognition cop in New York says about that.
Given Billy's natural ability to evade the law, it wouldn't surprise me at all if there is truth to the theory that he wasn't shot by Pat Garrett and indeed used the event to disappear into society under another identity. There seems to be more than enough evidence to support this theory if you go and read the books on the subject. The one thing I'm certain of, is that whoever is buried under that tombstone in Fort Sumner cemetery, it ain't Billy the Kid....if indeed there's anyone buried there at all. I'm sure the local business people will say he's there because of the financial benefits of the tourism aspect, but I'm sure the true feelings of the local residents are highly doubtful. Now there are just too many conflicting stories from all sorts of people recounting third hand information from individuals attempting to write themselves into Billy's legend that the real truths of the matter are no longer anything that can be proven outright. Whatever anyone believes about Billy is now sadly all down to personal opinion based on the information available. And it's not just Billy's story that gets re written facts mixed in with half truths and blatant lies and polished up to fit a convenient narrative,...ALL our history is subject to this same mistreatment.
I already published a video debunking the 1879 birth claim using census, employment, and genealogical records. And unlike those that seek to discredit Roberts by parroting the same old, tired, unsourced claims, I show you the supporting documents and sources on the screen as I'm citing them. th-cam.com/video/EK9oRxqmee0/w-d-xo.html Most of Roberts' family actually believe his claim, as I have about a dozen signed affidavits stating as such. As far as I know, only two vocal claimed family members have spoken out against him. One a very distant cousin who never met him and one who claims to be his niece, which is interesting because according to William Henry Roberts' family bible, he had no nieces. Roberts has no surviving close descendants, just step and distant relatives. As far as Roberts acquiring his esoteric knowledge of Billy's life through casual conversation with Bill's friends, I find this highly improbable, as no single individual was with Billy through his life to obtain such a complete picture. From his early days to his purported death at Ft. Sumner, Billy's circle of friends was constantly changing. How did Roberts know about the blood on the stairs in the Lincoln County jail? That the rock house at Stinking Springs had no door? That Tunstall was moving horses when he was killed as opposed to cattle, as most historians misstated until discovered by Fred Nolan, long after Roberts' death? How did he know about the letter to Wallace that wasn't known until after his death? The location of the meeting with Wallace etc. etc