I don’t like our American culture’s views on living with parents and the pressure to achieve so much because I’m 27 and disabled with chronic illnesses so I have to live with my parents and can’t work, and I get judgment for it :( Most people I meet don’t know that I physically can’t live without help so they find out I live with my parents and make comments on it or make judgments without considering that there’s a reason. I feel like there’s too much pressure to be independent and achieve here and that can end up tying in with ableism or discrimination against people who can’t or don’t fit into that mold. However I’ve met a lot of Spanish speakers and they think that living with parents at 30 is normal which has made me question what my culture has taught me is normal and acceptable which I hadn’t done before.
I'm Canadian, however, my parents are from Latin America. In our culture living at home is not a problem (actually preferred) but in Canada living at home at 24 is looked down upon. I had so many friends asking me when I'm going to move out, it's super annoying. I feel like every time I have to justify. If you are not going to pay my rent don't ask! Plenty of us are in the same boat, don't feel the need to justify, genuine people would understand!
bamboolibrary Thank you! I wish american/canadian cultures would come around a bit cuz the judgment is really annoying. Like let me live my life, it’s not hurting or affecting anyone else!
Fion On my way to asia✈️ jk haha but thanks for sharing. I like that asian cultures value family bonds like that. But what happens if someone there never finds marriage?
@@abcxyz4653 I have a couple of relatives who never got married and they are living with one of their siblings or with their parents. As Fion said, living with your parents is not looked down upon, but actually preferred here. I'm from the Philippines btw.
My parents are from Europe (France and Germany). My parents left their parents when they were 18. All of my cousins and I all left our parents in our late teens early 20s and ALL of us could not wait to leave. Even if we were handicapped, we would have left. Parents can be such a pain. All they want to do is lecture you day in and day out. This isn't right, that isn't right, so on and so forth like they know it all. We appreciate their advise but many times the decisions that we made for ourselves was better.
* people still live with their parents until they are like 30 * As a European this felt too close to home cause in Greece people live with their parents for so many years, mainly because of the financial instability but even if they have a job they still choose to live with their parents because they think that it is more convenient than living by themselves .
Same here in Italy.. most of the times it's not because we want it (although a lot of people are really close to their family) but because we can't do otherwise.
I live in France but in a turkish family, and it’s the same. One of my cousins live with his parents, he’s more than 30, let alone that, he has been married 3 times. Every time, the woman came to the same house. Like wtf!! I could never.
France IS a tiny country compared to the United States where she is from. For example, France is the size of about 3 states in the US. Our maps are so skewed and misleading.
"Money is a tool to get where you want to get" THIS!!! I'm reminded of something I learned in class. The more money one has the higher their 0 is. Basically the richer the person, the higher the amount of money they need to keep in order to feel secure. It's the idea of rich people hoarding money that they will not use and how unecessary it can be in the grand scheme of things. Of course, having money can get you places, but at some point, I think it holds you back rather than pushing you forward.
'the richer the person, the higher the amount of money they need to keep in order to feel secure' i'm saving this quote...it's so important! thanks for sharing
Okay so when I was broke and living pay to pay, I would spend money on absolute trash and ridiculous things... Now that I have abit of security I have become the absolute tightest cheapest ass you could ever meet. 🤔
@@breakfastattiffanys741 same, now I’m a penny pincher but I always save for emergencies and special occasions. It feel great to feel secure, but not hoard money to when it becomes a problem.
28 & american. I’m still at home. I decided not to move out until I paid off all of my student loans and saved enough for a downpayment on a condo. Is it a bit weird? Yes, but I have to do what is right for my financial future. I encourage others to do the same. Debt is no fun.
It's not weird, it's smart. I'm doing the same thing. My parents gave me comfortable life..so of course I will help them. I'll rather give them money for bills, rather than pay rent, and live paycheck to paycheck, it's expensive to live alone on credit especially in my country. So don't worry you're doing the smart thing!
It’s not weird at all. It is wise and totally okay. We shouldn’t measure our lives with other people rulers. I’m 19 but I wouldn’t give a shit about having to live at home at 30 if that is what I needed at that time for myself.
The girl probably doesn’t have many planets in fixed signs; she even said she does not stick with the status quo if she feels unfulfilled which is great too, but a lack of follow through can have dire consequences as well.
Thank you Shayna for introducing me to the idea that art is not just validated for its technical difficulty. As someone who is trying to rediscover his creative side, with all this new free time (thank you, lockdown?), it's been quite intimidating as I haven't been able to give much time to working on my technical skills. But the comment of "an artist is someone who works at it everyday" is inspiring!
I am in a similar place as you, I feel like this time for me is for relaxation. Creativity will hit me again once it has to. I haven’t been practicing nor improving my skills, everything will happen on its own time.
I absolutely LIVE and BREATHE for this whole conversation. Despite all the travel restrictions, I'm still aching to move to a foreign country. But even at 21 I already feel so tied down by college and my relationships I've made in my hometown. The fact of the matter is that you always have to give up one reality for another.... It's costly.
When he said "some people are three years into medical school and still have six more and say well, I've already done three years" that hit too hard. That is exactly the situation I'm in right now and I have no idea what to do. It feels like I've been floating aimlessly through life and I have no idea if I really enjoy medicine or if there's something out there that I'll enjoy more. but at this point it feels like it's too late to turn back.
Honestly it's never too late to turn back. Maybe do some job shadowing at different jobs that interest you, go to different people's lectures and different kinds of classes for a bit. There are so many options , even if it's taking a gap year or 2 ;) . You can always change courses, find something new you like, drop the courses you're doing or take some time to explore what would be better. Do some research, think about it a bit and try explore by interning/job shadowing or maybe possibly even travelling-but I dont think theres any point in staying in something you dont like, just because you've always been there. That's like eating mac and cheese every night,even if you hate it, just because it's in your fridge. You can always buy new ingredients and make something new :) !
europeans taking their time is a thing i appreciate the most about my folks (but lol we germans dont live with our parents til we're 30, most of us move out at 18 to go to uni or at around 20 so when they finished their training bruh we like to be independent xD)
@@DavidJapanese yeah if we go to university or some other kind of education there's a law 'forcing' our parents to give us some money to pay rent and food until were 25 or we have a jov :)
Really liked how Shayna mentioned at the end why rich people buy culture! It reminded me of the sociology of culture by Pierre Bourdieu. The highest class are those who have cultural and economic capital.
people grow and move on with their lives, it's sad that damonandjo is over but they created wonderful videos for years and we should be thankful for that and move on with their new ventures as well.
@@stephenng53 oh no I agree but I also can't imagine a world where they're not friends, they went through so many highs and lows together, I think few things should be able to break them apart
You should start including the name of the wine you are drinking in each episode and maybe the price too! I’m living in France and I still have no idea how to pick good wine 😂
Needed this, I’m stuck in such a rut I hate my office job (especially my team) it drains me and I cry ALOT but I just don’t even know what my next step is. I’m shy and quite and so scared of anything new 😩
YUP that's cuz she was like...alright let's start my video rn! and i was like...but we JUST finished the entire bottle (and a half). she was like....exactly.
This setting is so dreamy🤩. Also for some reason i didnt realize she was wearing jeans for the first few minutes, the filter of the video and paint on them (plus I was watching in dim light) made me see them as like some high-waisted purple chiffon trousers
On the topic of creativity, I think everyone is creative when they are children, and that all kids don't let any exterior judgement stop them from expressing how they truly feel. But as we grow older, only a few will be left that have learnt how to keep their fearlessness as a child and free thinking that society tends to try and take away from us. And these people are the artists.
Pretty sure the average person in the UK lives at home until they're around 30ish. Housing is just too expensive and not viable for the average person in their early twenties.
I have learnt so much from these conversations omg. They've totally changed my perspective on art, money, and making it as a creative later on in life. Thank youuu
i love hearing y'all just talk about creative things. i lack that in my daily life, communication isn't very passionate with the people i talk to but i love this!!
I've researched creativity for my thesis on songwriting. Creativity can be defined as making something that has value. Everyone is creative, fixing a problem often is creative. In your youth, we often get told that we can't do something, and we get afraid to express new creative ideas because we are afraid to get critique from peers/parents. Creativity can be re-learned! It needs to happen in a safe environment in which you shouldn't feel afraid to fail. Take creative risks, dare to express yourself
10:28 it's funny that as a european I always thought of this the other way around. When I was in the US everything work / school related seemed way more chill than in Europe. Maybe it's different here in Germany? But my family and everyone I know is definitely very obsessed with money and getting a good job / education as fast as possible! People are even stressing me out right now cause I decided to take a 6 month break before beginning my studies due to the virus.
That’s definitely just a very German thing and not really the rest of Europe. Germany is similar to US culture in that sense. Although maybe more so once out of school.
I didn't realise I was creative until I was 27 because I had always been told that I was academic. Realizing our creativity is so much about identity. And I see creativity as purely creating, manifesting into reality which we all do constantly. I believe that no art can ever be measured, it is all infinitely valuable as it is purely creation.
So interesting to listen to your thoughts about living in Paris after the US. I feel the same, but about the US lol. I moved to NYC from Moscow, and my life has changed completely. I’m finally enjoying every aspect of it and become being grateful for every day. I still live at a slower pace, and just not playing in this ‘work comes before the actual life’ game.
@ 16:50, what u guys said about how the things u say in the present can influence how things may turn out in the future reminded me of how we say "words become seeds" (말이 씨가 된다) in korea not like anyone had to know lmao
I’m a guy from Louisiana and my fiancé is from Paris and he was so angry with all of Damon’s bank stories. Not mad at Damon but mad that the French banks and apartments were treating Damon like that. We had soooooo many conversations about it. We’re both very happy for Damon that the apartment and bank account saga is over.
When she said France is a very tiny country, I started laughing so hard. I understand her point of view but since I am from Austria for me France is big!
damon and shayna are so wholesome.. “be the change you want to see in the world” and “you see in others what you dislike about yourself” both things i tell myself all the time..
Wanderlust is definitely getting to me. I was supposed to be in the UK right now, but with everything going on I knew it would be best to cancel the trip. I just graduated and this trip was something I was really looking forward to. I’ve been spending my time painting and soon I’ll be returning to work. I did want to stay for longer than I had booked, though, so maybe I wasn’t meant to go this year!😊
It’s interesting being born in Canada and being raised by my immigrant Guatemalan parents because I realize how out of touch I am with the “Canadian view” of things. My parents would never have a problem with me or any of my siblings living with them as long as we wanted. We have a very strong sense of family so we always planned to live with our parents and help out with bills and groceries while paying off our student debt. When my Canadian friends realized I didn’t plan to move out for university they told me that I wasn’t living my life to the fullest. I started to feel pressure and question my dreams and if I was just settling or was a bother to my parents until they told me they want me to do whatever makes me happy. My cousins have this “Canadian” perspective as well. Their parents grew up here and went to school here. My cousins are second generation Canadians that don’t speak Spanish and I’m a first generation cause my parents were adults when they came. There’s nothing wrong with that of course but it’s interesting when we get together and talk how differently we think. It’s really fascinating how your environment and language you speak shapes your mentality. Since I always related more to my Guatemalan roots and am fluent in Spanish home life had more of an effect on me.
@@sam-ix2ug At least in my experience you don't feel out of place cause everybody is from a different country and most embrace their culture. Of course it depends on where you live. The GTA is very multicultural and I have never lived in another province so i can't really tell you much about other areas. Racism always exists obviously especially in specific areas.
"how would you act if everyone in the room loves you for who you are?" - this might change my life, as someone who doesn't like to show themselves to people, anxiety bla
'i feel like i live in a way that's pretty positive and i'm trying to do good things... and then i'll be at the damn plant market and the lady is like DON'T TOUCH THAT' why did this kill me 😂
This was really insightful. I was always a bit skeptical and dismissive of the value of art, and pursuing it professionally. This convo really made me rethink my position
Just found this talk and as a french person myself that works an office job in Paris and works her butt off on her art with the little free time she gets to hopefully make a living out of my passion, I thought I might have some insight for y'all. Sorry in advance for the novel! I think people's personalities and upbringing are greater factors of decision-making than your country's culture is. I'm french, and though some people do "take life as it comes" here, I, on the other hand, always want to be 50 steps ahead. I want to plan everything because I get very anxious otherwise. Believe me when I tell you that I would absolutely LOVE to just "go with the flow" and accept that I will never totally have control over my life, but that's just terrifying to me. The "art-appreciative" people here are also fewer than expected for a country which has things like literature and the visual arts so deeply rooted into its cultural core. I can't recall how many times me saying that I want to be an artist has been followed by "But what about your real job?" kind of answers. Hanging around creatives sure makes it seem like the world is very appreciative of art, but truth is, most people here are as business and money-driven as the stereotypical american is. I've written the rest of this comment as I watched the video so if it's not a perfectly crafted essay, that's why. For the "people don't care so much about the process and more about the finished piece of artwork", which is very true, I would also like to add that, to me, that's why it's so important, as a creative, to enjoy what you are doing, while you are doing it; because no matter what the finished result is, you will look at it in a few weeks or even hours and find something that you think could be improved. So, make lots of mistakes and keep a smile on your face! Being judged by random people, lol, if that ain't the reason of my social anxiety ha! Also, if you don't want old ladies or creepy dudes to come to you, pull out your best bitch face, it works like a charm. And if you can wear headphones at the same time, you've got the holy combo. Omg please never stop wearing whatever you want to wear. I do wear very muted colors (I only have two items of clothing that aren't black or blue lol) but I absolutely adore seeing people wearing very expressive clothes and creative hairstyles etc... You people are the highlight of my day. When I was younger I used to really want to dye my hair but my parents would never accept something more than just making the tips of my hair a little lighter, like a blonde-ish color. Now, everytime I think about doing something "a little crazy" (i think the use of the word crazy here shows how the need to appear "serious" is implanted in my brain) I always think about how people won't take me seriously if I do that, because it's different, and people here live by those stupid rules of "if you want to be taken seriously, dress seriously" as if wearing a suit and looking like a penguin makes you more reliable than keeping up with fashion trends? Anyways, that was just a big rant haha Vulnerability is a superpower, yes, and that is why I'm the background character of all the Supermen and Superwomen in my life, haha Seriously though, being yourself in front of others is the best choice you can ever make because guess what, if people don't like who you are, they'll leave before you get attached to them, and if they do like you, they'll stick around and create a nice friendship with you. I am someone that has never been open, and the few times I have has resulted in some traumatic experience that still makes me have panic attacks to this day. I think that people who are confident allow themselves to be vulnerable a little more than people who don't trust themselves, because they can acknowledge the successes they have had in the past and use them to push themselves forward. I always think my successes are the result of a lot of luck and many privileges. This way of thinking can then make you compare yourself to others even more because you think people are achieving more "on their own", when really they just have a different situation. Overall very interesting talk. We're all on our own journey in life that can't be compared to anyone else's, and the best thing you can do is enjoy the ride! I hope my comment made sense and was mostly interesting, haha! PS: Damon's haircut looks great! PPS: And ha, jokes on you, I hate wine! (Well, alcohol in general lmao)
Hey shayna and dominque- would you guys be willing to get together again and have a red wine talk surrounding growing up in America, high school, American stereotypes, etc? I think that’d be super interesting! have a good day:)
Ahh I had so much fun doing this!! ❤️
We love you
@@Wee.low1 aw ily 2!
You are AMAZING!
Where is that shirt from?! Must be vintage!!! It’s PERFECTION.
you two are my favourite combo
pov : you are a parisian bird eavesdropping on two friends chatting in a park
Omg so cute lol
oh to be that bird!
Omg 100%
I -
omg haha. I am glad people like you exist.
the way you guys make me want to drop everything and move to france
Do it
SAME
right?
Why not
I am moving to France in September. Damon had at least 40% of a role in that decision.
"France is a tiny country"
Disagrees in European.
Ikr just check Italy out
try the uk lol
i agree from Denmark
Agreed from the Netherlands
when she said that I was like ???? FRANCE IS HUGE haha well it is when you are from the uk
I don’t like our American culture’s views on living with parents and the pressure to achieve so much because I’m 27 and disabled with chronic illnesses so I have to live with my parents and can’t work, and I get judgment for it :( Most people I meet don’t know that I physically can’t live without help so they find out I live with my parents and make comments on it or make judgments without considering that there’s a reason.
I feel like there’s too much pressure to be independent and achieve here and that can end up tying in with ableism or discrimination against people who can’t or don’t fit into that mold. However I’ve met a lot of Spanish speakers and they think that living with parents at 30 is normal which has made me question what my culture has taught me is normal and acceptable which I hadn’t done before.
I'm Canadian, however, my parents are from Latin America. In our culture living at home is not a problem (actually preferred) but in Canada living at home at 24 is looked down upon. I had so many friends asking me when I'm going to move out, it's super annoying. I feel like every time I have to justify. If you are not going to pay my rent don't ask! Plenty of us are in the same boat, don't feel the need to justify, genuine people would understand!
bamboolibrary Thank you! I wish american/canadian cultures would come around a bit cuz the judgment is really annoying. Like let me live my life, it’s not hurting or affecting anyone else!
Fion On my way to asia✈️ jk haha but thanks for sharing. I like that asian cultures value family bonds like that. But what happens if someone there never finds marriage?
@@abcxyz4653 I have a couple of relatives who never got married and they are living with one of their siblings or with their parents. As Fion said, living with your parents is not looked down upon, but actually preferred here. I'm from the Philippines btw.
My parents are from Europe (France and Germany). My parents left their parents when they were 18. All of my cousins and I all left our parents in our late teens early 20s and ALL of us could not wait to leave. Even if we were handicapped, we would have left. Parents can be such a pain. All they want to do is lecture you day in and day out. This isn't right, that isn't right, so on and so forth like they know it all. We appreciate their advise but many times the decisions that we made for ourselves was better.
most valuable commentary: wine is like fruit juice
It's a simple, yet true statement.
damon starts to look more and more like an ‘02 R&B artist with each red wine talk 😌
BEST COMPLIMENT I'VE EVER RECEIVED!
can we talk about damon's arms! like okaaaay we see you!
Yeesss I was searching for this comment!! Freaking goals!
YES ARMS YES CHEST
"France is a tiny country"
*stares in Luxembourg*
“how would you act if you thought everyone in this place loved you for who you are” i’m going to think of this everyday :)
* people still live with their parents until they are like 30 *
As a European this felt too close to home cause in Greece people live with their parents for so many years, mainly because of the financial instability but even if they have a job they still choose to live with their parents because they think that it is more convenient than living by themselves .
Same here in Italy.. most of the times it's not because we want it (although a lot of people are really close to their family) but because we can't do otherwise.
i swear i watched the whole video right down to the deleted scenes but i somehow missed that - where in the vid is that topic talked about ?
Katie Johns 3:26
same in Brazil
I live in France but in a turkish family, and it’s the same. One of my cousins live with his parents, he’s more than 30, let alone that, he has been married 3 times. Every time, the woman came to the same house. Like wtf!! I could never.
"france is a tiny country"
"living with parents at 30 is a bit too much"
giiiiirl
RIGHT im from croatia and i was like,, a ti-tiny country??
Lol have you seen Russia? Canada ? The states, Brazil, etc... France is soooo tiny compared to those... Depends where you're coming from
Our one state of Texas is the same size as France. It takes 41 hours to drive from New York to Los Angeles, basically across to whole US mainland.
France IS a tiny country compared to the United States where she is from. For example, France is the size of about 3 states in the US. Our maps are so skewed and misleading.
@@nedboase7909
Maybe because I lived in two big countries... From my experience France is really small but ok
She’s the incarnation of Luna Lovegood and you can’t tell me otherwise
Right
or jules vaughn
"Money is a tool to get where you want to get" THIS!!! I'm reminded of something I learned in class. The more money one has the higher their 0 is. Basically the richer the person, the higher the amount of money they need to keep in order to feel secure. It's the idea of rich people hoarding money that they will not use and how unecessary it can be in the grand scheme of things. Of course, having money can get you places, but at some point, I think it holds you back rather than pushing you forward.
'the richer the person, the higher the amount of money they need to keep in order to feel secure' i'm saving this quote...it's so important! thanks for sharing
Okay so when I was broke and living pay to pay, I would spend money on absolute trash and ridiculous things... Now that I have abit of security I have become the absolute tightest cheapest ass you could ever meet. 🤔
@@breakfastattiffanys741 same, now I’m a penny pincher but I always save for emergencies and special occasions. It feel great to feel secure, but not hoard money to when it becomes a problem.
Note to self: don't compare myself to people similar me to avoid envy, only to billionaires
28 & american. I’m still at home. I decided not to move out until I paid off all of my student loans and saved enough for a downpayment on a condo. Is it a bit weird? Yes, but I have to do what is right for my financial future. I encourage others to do the same. Debt is no fun.
As long as your parents don't care....
Cacilia Why I wouldn’t stay if they did.
It's not weird, it's smart. I'm doing the same thing. My parents gave me comfortable life..so of course I will help them. I'll rather give them money for bills, rather than pay rent, and live paycheck to paycheck, it's expensive to live alone on credit especially in my country.
So don't worry you're doing the smart thing!
It’s not weird at all. It is wise and totally okay. We shouldn’t measure our lives with other people rulers. I’m 19 but I wouldn’t give a shit about having to live at home at 30 if that is what I needed at that time for myself.
I dont like my parents enough for that haha
major Aquarius energy in this video 😍
yess major air energy
Laughts in a cool way.
The girl probably doesn’t have many planets in fixed signs; she even said she does not stick with the status quo if she feels unfulfilled which is great too, but a lack of follow through can have dire consequences as well.
Thank you Shayna for introducing me to the idea that art is not just validated for its technical difficulty. As someone who is trying to rediscover his creative side, with all this new free time (thank you, lockdown?), it's been quite intimidating as I haven't been able to give much time to working on my technical skills. But the comment of "an artist is someone who works at it everyday" is inspiring!
I am in a similar place as you, I feel like this time for me is for relaxation. Creativity will hit me again once it has to. I haven’t been practicing nor improving my skills, everything will happen on its own time.
To me, it's like 15% technicality, 25% patience, and 60% experimentation. That's in the form of music though.
"You can't not care about what people think about you, but you have to care about something more than that"
I absolutely LIVE and BREATHE for this whole conversation. Despite all the travel restrictions, I'm still aching to move to a foreign country. But even at 21 I already feel so tied down by college and my relationships I've made in my hometown. The fact of the matter is that you always have to give up one reality for another.... It's costly.
You just described my situation I’m even 20. Girl let’s go and explore the world 💖
When he said "some people are three years into medical school and still have six more and say well, I've already done three years" that hit too hard. That is exactly the situation I'm in right now and I have no idea what to do. It feels like I've been floating aimlessly through life and I have no idea if I really enjoy medicine or if there's something out there that I'll enjoy more. but at this point it feels like it's too late to turn back.
Maybe explore other things whilst you're in med school
Gap year girl
I'm the same, but for now I guess I'll just finish the degree and try figure it all out after
Honestly it's never too late to turn back. Maybe do some job shadowing at different jobs that interest you, go to different people's lectures and different kinds of classes for a bit. There are so many options , even if it's taking a gap year or 2 ;) . You can always change courses, find something new you like, drop the courses you're doing or take some time to explore what would be better. Do some research, think about it a bit and try explore by interning/job shadowing or maybe possibly even travelling-but I dont think theres any point in staying in something you dont like, just because you've always been there. That's like eating mac and cheese every night,even if you hate it, just because it's in your fridge. You can always buy new ingredients and make something new :) !
"French always got something to say, especially old ladies they don't mind their own business"
Me, an italian: ....why do I relate so much with them?!
europeans taking their time is a thing i appreciate the most about my folks (but lol we germans dont live with our parents til we're 30, most of us move out at 18 to go to uni or at around 20 so when they finished their training bruh we like to be independent xD)
yeah in the Netherlands most people move out before 24
yeah but germans youngens get money from their parents even after leaving home for a while after..
Well, I mean we may move out at 18 but that doesn't mean we're independet lol 🤷🏽♀️😂
@@DavidJapanese yeah if we go to university or some other kind of education there's a law 'forcing' our parents to give us some money to pay rent and food until were 25 or we have a jov :)
@@katrinbeck9743 we like to be doesnt mean we really are 😂
Really liked how Shayna mentioned at the end why rich people buy culture! It reminded me of the sociology of culture by Pierre Bourdieu. The highest class are those who have cultural and economic capital.
'France is a tiny country' HAHAHA I live in Belgium and we consider ourselves tiny but then there's Luxembourg, Malta,... :P
Didn't expect to see another Belgian here🌸
Hahah exactly & Belgium representtt
Damon referring to SUAG as a channel he “used” to have 😭
i was like woah luv dat caught me off guard
I knowww 😔
If he or Jo don't at least mention each other in a video soon i will flip my shit
people grow and move on with their lives, it's sad that damonandjo is over but they created wonderful videos for years and we should be thankful for that and move on with their new ventures as well.
@@stephenng53 oh no I agree but I also can't imagine a world where they're not friends, they went through so many highs and lows together, I think few things should be able to break them apart
You should start including the name of the wine you are drinking in each episode and maybe the price too! I’m living in France and I still have no idea how to pick good wine 😂
I think good wine is a myth haha
@@panicatmybrain5933 how dare you!? 😳😂
two main Americans of Paris
The Real Housewives of Paris.
@@damondominique hahahahahaha
Shayna is my ideal vibe, such serenity, I loved it. Felt all my anxiety melt away while watching this. Lovely
DAMON HAS REALLY BEEN FEEDING US A LOT LATELY. EVERYBODY SAY THANK YOU DAMON
Honestly, as a struggling 21-year-old, that bit about acting as if everyone wants the best for you + vulnerability lifted the veil a bit!
“How dare you play with the game of life.” Straight facts, Damon.✨
Needed this, I’m stuck in such a rut I hate my office job (especially my team) it drains me and I cry ALOT but I just don’t even know what my next step is. I’m shy and quite and so scared of anything new 😩
i really hope one day you will have enough courage to come out of your comfort zone and experience new things that will for sure make you happier.
Thanks for being vulnerable! I understand it's hard to not know what you're next step is! You're not alone!! Peace & love :)
Carolina Urbaniak thank you so much 😊🥰
Melissa thank you 🥰
Do it this was a sign
"how would u act if everyone loved u for u are" good advice
Damon, your talks are therapeutic.
been watching for 2 minutes and this girl SCREAMS aquarius
These red wine talks really be getting me through quarintine PERIODT
Same 👏👏
i literally drink along and pretend im part of the conversation
I watched the purple palaces’ version as well ! Even drunker and funnier :)
YUP that's cuz she was like...alright let's start my video rn! and i was like...but we JUST finished the entire bottle (and a half). she was like....exactly.
This setting is so dreamy🤩. Also for some reason i didnt realize she was wearing jeans for the first few minutes, the filter of the video and paint on them (plus I was watching in dim light) made me see them as like some high-waisted purple chiffon trousers
Rich people buy art because it's an investment that can gain value like shares.
and to launder money lol
was gonna mention it is also for tax evasion reasons lol
the coloring on this vid was really good for my pre-bedtime eyeballs
I love this!! Also in Australia, 'root' can be used as a synonym for 'fuck' so I giggled at 'deciding where to root oneself'
On the topic of creativity, I think everyone is creative when they are children, and that all kids don't let any exterior judgement stop them from expressing how they truly feel. But as we grow older, only a few will be left that have learnt how to keep their fearlessness as a child and free thinking that society tends to try and take away from us. And these people are the artists.
"the ultimate ideal of wealth is time" yesyesyess
Can we all just agree this is the BEST collab??
"The ultimate richness is the quality of life we're living" 🍷
As someone from the UK, the words “France is a tiny country” sounded so strange 😂
It’s weird because in France we don’t think of ourselves as a big country (at least size wise) I think
who ever yes exactly-it’s just funny 😂
iwilitu it’s weird considering france is the third biggest country in europe
elysian yeah exactly
elysian , first biggest country in the EU though.
good god i love this man in the most platonic way possible
This is video a piece of art to me, it’s inspiring to me mentally and physically.
feltttttttt
Damon is giving me Libra vibes with his pros and cons about moving #libragang
And shayna is AQUARIOUS vibes
Libra gang!!!
"If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself. What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us."
Pretty sure the average person in the UK lives at home until they're around 30ish. Housing is just too expensive and not viable for the average person in their early twenties.
People just rent, or at least where I live
I'm envious of YOU GUYS!!! I am going to live a good life, traveling and gaining culture SPEAKING IT INTO EXISTENCE.
I have learnt so much from these conversations omg. They've totally changed my perspective on art, money, and making it as a creative later on in life. Thank youuu
i love hearing y'all just talk about creative things. i lack that in my daily life, communication isn't very passionate with the people i talk to but i love this!!
Yesss I love you two!!
ILY TIFF❤️I love it when my faves watch each other
I was so sure you’d be found in this comment section oml
I've researched creativity for my thesis on songwriting. Creativity can be defined as making something that has value. Everyone is creative, fixing a problem often is creative. In your youth, we often get told that we can't do something, and we get afraid to express new creative ideas because we are afraid to get critique from peers/parents. Creativity can be re-learned! It needs to happen in a safe environment in which you shouldn't feel afraid to fail. Take creative risks, dare to express yourself
10:28 it's funny that as a european I always thought of this the other way around. When I was in the US everything work / school related seemed way more chill than in Europe. Maybe it's different here in Germany? But my family and everyone I know is definitely very obsessed with money and getting a good job / education as fast as possible! People are even stressing me out right now cause I decided to take a 6 month break before beginning my studies due to the virus.
That’s definitely just a very German thing and not really the rest of Europe. Germany is similar to US culture in that sense. Although maybe more so once out of school.
@@ellemacs Yeah I think you're right! God I hate it, wish it wasn't like that lol
I didn't realise I was creative until I was 27 because I had always been told that I was academic. Realizing our creativity is so much about identity. And I see creativity as purely creating, manifesting into reality which we all do constantly. I believe that no art can ever be measured, it is all infinitely valuable as it is purely creation.
Using this talk as a podcast while doing some coloring is A1 prime relaxation and introspectiveness
So interesting to listen to your thoughts about living in Paris after the US. I feel the same, but about the US lol.
I moved to NYC from Moscow, and my life has changed completely. I’m finally enjoying every aspect of it and become being grateful for every day. I still live at a slower pace, and just not playing in this ‘work comes before the actual life’ game.
The most perfect collab with my favorite people on TH-cam and some people had the audacity to dislike this treasure of a video?!
@ 16:50, what u guys said about how the things u say in the present can influence how things may turn out in the future reminded me of how we say "words become seeds" (말이 씨가 된다) in korea
not like anyone had to know lmao
I’m a guy from Louisiana and my fiancé is from Paris and he was so angry with all of Damon’s bank stories. Not mad at Damon but mad that the French banks and apartments were treating Damon like that. We had soooooo many conversations about it. We’re both very happy for Damon that the apartment and bank account saga is over.
I felt like watching my friends have a talk for 30 minutes and I'm loving it.
holy she articulates sooo well!!! love hearing her thoughts. it was great!
When she said France is a very tiny country, I started laughing so hard. I understand her point of view but since I am from Austria for me France is big!
Literally a joy to watch. Two open minded individuals is a recipe for some good good shit.
I HAVE WAITED FOR THIS SO PATIENTLY
damon and shayna are so wholesome.. “be the change you want to see in the world” and “you see in others what you dislike about yourself” both things i tell myself all the time..
Wanderlust is definitely getting to me. I was supposed to be in the UK right now, but with everything going on I knew it would be best to cancel the trip. I just graduated and this trip was something I was really looking forward to. I’ve been spending my time painting and soon I’ll be returning to work. I did want to stay for longer than I had booked, though, so maybe I wasn’t meant to go this year!😊
They’re living the life 🥺
It’s interesting being born in Canada and being raised by my immigrant Guatemalan parents because I realize how out of touch I am with the “Canadian view” of things. My parents would never have a problem with me or any of my siblings living with them as long as we wanted. We have a very strong sense of family so we always planned to live with our parents and help out with bills and groceries while paying off our student debt. When my Canadian friends realized I didn’t plan to move out for university they told me that I wasn’t living my life to the fullest. I started to feel pressure and question my dreams and if I was just settling or was a bother to my parents until they told me they want me to do whatever makes me happy. My cousins have this “Canadian” perspective as well. Their parents grew up here and went to school here. My cousins are second generation Canadians that don’t speak Spanish and I’m a first generation cause my parents were adults when they came. There’s nothing wrong with that of course but it’s interesting when we get together and talk how differently we think. It’s really fascinating how your environment and language you speak shapes your mentality. Since I always related more to my Guatemalan roots and am fluent in Spanish home life had more of an effect on me.
Elisa Lopez how is it for Latinos in Canada naw I’m trying to move there
@@sam-ix2ug At least in my experience you don't feel out of place cause everybody is from a different country and most embrace their culture. Of course it depends on where you live. The GTA is very multicultural and I have never lived in another province so i can't really tell you much about other areas. Racism always exists obviously especially in specific areas.
Definitely thank you!
"how would you act if everyone in the room loves you for who you are?" - this might change my life, as someone who doesn't like to show themselves to people, anxiety bla
It is such a wholesome feeling listening to these beautiful minds, also these wine talks should be on Spotify
My two favorite youtubers talking for 30 minutes on another red wine talk? I never clicked so fast
'i feel like i live in a way that's pretty positive and i'm trying to do good things... and then i'll be at the damn plant market and the lady is like DON'T TOUCH THAT'
why did this kill me 😂
them: this could be the best summer of our lives
me, in quarantine in florida: 👁️👄👁️
12:42 istg when I first discovered Shayna's channel her style reminded me so much of emilia fart. you can reeeeally see the influence
his humbleness when she said she was fangirling over him when he sent her a a voice message 🥺
Aww, you two!!! 🥰🎶❤️
Man this explained like everything I’ve been thinking and talking about stuff that just really opened my eyes!!!
You guys are like my imaginary real life best friends 😂
Money Sucess and productivity is soooo American !!! or is it my stereotype?
100% a daily American talking point
it has affected the UK, Australia etc too...such a shame!!
Millie It’s an Anglo thing. Cultures be different like that :(
and that’s on capitalism
This was really insightful. I was always a bit skeptical and dismissive of the value of art, and pursuing it professionally. This convo really made me rethink my position
Exactly what I needed on a Friday evening!
this conversation was so wholesome!! i loved it thank you so much, i kept smiling all the time :) bless u guys
Just found this talk and as a french person myself that works an office job in Paris and works her butt off on her art with the little free time she gets to hopefully make a living out of my passion, I thought I might have some insight for y'all. Sorry in advance for the novel!
I think people's personalities and upbringing are greater factors of decision-making than your country's culture is. I'm french, and though some people do "take life as it comes" here, I, on the other hand, always want to be 50 steps ahead. I want to plan everything because I get very anxious otherwise. Believe me when I tell you that I would absolutely LOVE to just "go with the flow" and accept that I will never totally have control over my life, but that's just terrifying to me.
The "art-appreciative" people here are also fewer than expected for a country which has things like literature and the visual arts so deeply rooted into its cultural core. I can't recall how many times me saying that I want to be an artist has been followed by "But what about your real job?" kind of answers. Hanging around creatives sure makes it seem like the world is very appreciative of art, but truth is, most people here are as business and money-driven as the stereotypical american is.
I've written the rest of this comment as I watched the video so if it's not a perfectly crafted essay, that's why.
For the "people don't care so much about the process and more about the finished piece of artwork", which is very true, I would also like to add that, to me, that's why it's so important, as a creative, to enjoy what you are doing, while you are doing it; because no matter what the finished result is, you will look at it in a few weeks or even hours and find something that you think could be improved. So, make lots of mistakes and keep a smile on your face!
Being judged by random people, lol, if that ain't the reason of my social anxiety ha! Also, if you don't want old ladies or creepy dudes to come to you, pull out your best bitch face, it works like a charm. And if you can wear headphones at the same time, you've got the holy combo.
Omg please never stop wearing whatever you want to wear. I do wear very muted colors (I only have two items of clothing that aren't black or blue lol) but I absolutely adore seeing people wearing very expressive clothes and creative hairstyles etc... You people are the highlight of my day. When I was younger I used to really want to dye my hair but my parents would never accept something more than just making the tips of my hair a little lighter, like a blonde-ish color. Now, everytime I think about doing something "a little crazy" (i think the use of the word crazy here shows how the need to appear "serious" is implanted in my brain) I always think about how people won't take me seriously if I do that, because it's different, and people here live by those stupid rules of "if you want to be taken seriously, dress seriously" as if wearing a suit and looking like a penguin makes you more reliable than keeping up with fashion trends? Anyways, that was just a big rant haha
Vulnerability is a superpower, yes, and that is why I'm the background character of all the Supermen and Superwomen in my life, haha
Seriously though, being yourself in front of others is the best choice you can ever make because guess what, if people don't like who you are, they'll leave before you get attached to them, and if they do like you, they'll stick around and create a nice friendship with you. I am someone that has never been open, and the few times I have has resulted in some traumatic experience that still makes me have panic attacks to this day. I think that people who are confident allow themselves to be vulnerable a little more than people who don't trust themselves, because they can acknowledge the successes they have had in the past and use them to push themselves forward. I always think my successes are the result of a lot of luck and many privileges. This way of thinking can then make you compare yourself to others even more because you think people are achieving more "on their own", when really they just have a different situation.
Overall very interesting talk. We're all on our own journey in life that can't be compared to anyone else's, and the best thing you can do is enjoy the ride!
I hope my comment made sense and was mostly interesting, haha!
PS: Damon's haircut looks great!
PPS: And ha, jokes on you, I hate wine! (Well, alcohol in general lmao)
and then i'll be at the damn plant market and the lady is like "dont touch that"
this video gives me a feeling of leaving everybody and everything behind and go where I want to go.
Thank you!
You don't even know how much I have enjoyed listening to your guys' thoughts. Greetings from Germany!
Damon's hairstyle has been an experience and genuinely made me smile :)
She is and trulyyy issss the coolest personnn eventho i just watched her throught video but she seems a really good personnn
Me at first: "Oh God, it's 30 minutes of them talking..."
*watches entire 30 minutes*
this series is so iconic
You (and your amazing friends) feed my SOUL Damon 🥰❤️❤️❤️!!
dynamic duo back at it baby!!
wanted to see more! shayna is such a good listener and seems so wise. it makes me want to be her friend.
I found myself so engaged, as if I was also part of the conversation. This was such a genuine, interesting and relatable video. Love you both!!!💜💜
Hey shayna and dominque- would you guys be willing to get together again and have a red wine talk surrounding growing up in America, high school, American stereotypes, etc? I think that’d be super interesting! have a good day:)