A LOT of this content had the IMPOSSIBLE flag removed in Patch 7, making it accessible. But before you get TOO exited, Karlach's Fourth Wall scene is still blocked. But it's not IMPOSSIBLE anymore! Now, it's "DEPRECATED" . . And sadly, Shadowheart is still unhuggable. (This video was recorded on Patch 6, version 4.1.1.5022896)
I know what you mean! I almost missed Gale in my first play through because I thought the malfunctioning portal being described as “dangerous” by the narrator was tantamount to the DM asking “are you sure you want to do this?”.
@@kimosterhout3242 Big same. I only got him at all because I'd heard his name from other friends who were playing it, and realized in Act 2 that I probably should have met him by now.
I love how shadowheart’s voice actor does such a great job showing her subtly start to question things. She’s slightly in awe of her goddess’s presence and power, but she is also disturbed by what a place touched by her goddess actually looks like
6:57 Shadowheart also has unique dialogue here if you're playing as Resist!Durge and Origin!Lae'zel, telling you that your defiance against your urge/god inspired her to turn away from Shar. It's really sweet.
Seems like this is confirmation you won’t have to owe anyone. Unless someone figures out a way to naturally trick the game into flipping the Impossible switch.
The thought did once cross my mind to mod it into the game in some out of the way spot, then make up highly specific and intricate instructions on how to unlock it. But I guess I'm just too honest . .
@@SlimXG I had one person email me that they had found the method, and wrote a massive post about the method being the same NPC you mentioned that activates that impossible tag. Then I went in game to test it and it didn't work. It was way overly complicated and titled "I"ll take the $500" or something like that lol
@@ProxyGateTactician See, at least I woulda made up some huge wild goose chase, a la It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World to see if I could get people to actually do it
Damn there's a lot of these, apparently there's an impossible tag on trying to speak to dead with Halsin if he dies after getting kidnapped by Orin. In said dialogue if you ask him how he met his end he says "Orin's blades" and "I hoped my friends would save me..."
Maybe pay the voice actor to fake the whole thing, include it, and then a year from now release a video called "Baldur's Gate 3's Biggest Scandal" admitting to the whole thing
Yeah, that one is especially strange to me, since they seem to be all ready to go. Maybe they cut them to balance her out with the other companions that don't have 14 different parting lines . .
@@SlimXGI know exactly what choice that is, I did a “Won’t Run” with an evil hornless origin Wyll and he says to the guards at the gate “Not closed to Duke Ulder Ravengard’s son surely?” He gets a situational advantage dice for “Son of Grand Duke Elder Ravengard” to pass the 30 DC persuasion check. The only reason I know all this is I laughed when it appeared and took a pic to send to a friend, and then had to take another pic because I got a Nat 20
I really appreciate your videos because they show not only all the dialogue but you actually give context to the dialogue as well. So often I see shorts of dialogue I've never seen but I have no idea how they got to that point
They did say the next patch is going to add some reactivity to (mommy) Minthara when you chose to knock her out, I'm guessing this is part of it. For the impossible Karlach scene I bet they left it in the release version as a small easter egg or something and later patched it out, that's why some people say they've seen it in game.
5:31 It would have been interesting if there was a line hinting at the player falling for Minthara. Just something along the lines of "I saw something in you. I couldn't bring myself to do it". It would even fit the same "Sparing an enemy's life is..." voice line, with an extra approval point from our favorite drow.
A lot of those Shadowheart lines were added in the files in some of the last patches. It's not cut content, but yet to be fully implemented content. There are also two entire camp files for Shadowheart where she prays to Shar in camp and plays with the Owlbear/Scratch. Now those two files have been around since release, so I'm not sure if they'll ever implement them, but they did implement the stool dialogue recently which was in the same boat as those two.
Yeah, "cut content" is just sorta shorthand for all this stuff. For example, the Minthara knocked out dialogue has been in the files since 1.5, but in 1.4 it was there in rough draft form with totally different lines (she was way meaner to you).
God I didn't know Shadowheart had _that_ many voice lines and hugs that are bugged or just inaccessible. I hope we can hug her as much as we want next patch 🥺
It feels like she was the first companion they made so makes sense she has the most lines. She has weird things no one else does like how you can ask her what she thinks of you through the whole game
@theredeft5319 Halsin also has dialogue where you can ask him that. They are unique to these two because they share the same writer. In terms of sheer number of voicelines though, Astarion has the most by far.
The fact that even her normal, non-IMPOSSIBLE hug during the end game is also bugged right now makes me hope that her whole hugging system is fixed in Patch 7, but we'll see.
The Minthara bit in Moonrise was probably cut because there is no valid explanation for knocking her out outside of meta-gaming or extremely convoluted motivations. It's an interesting piece of dialogue no doubt but one the game couldn't accomodate for in its current form.
Well you could be playing a pacifist run and be non/lethaling everyone? Of course most people would be meta gaming but it’s possible it was Larian just prepping for someone doing something rare. I dunno I think they should have kept it. Meta gaming or not your character did decide not to kill her for some reason, it should be brought up.
@@theredeft5319 No, they only allowed that method later because it was an exploit glitch. So they just moved some code to make it easier to accomplish. The point is though that they decided they didnt want players to have Minthara if they saved the Grove and because of the glitch “allowed it” again. The player base I notice has a hard time understanding this concept. Admittedly it’s Larians own doing because they keep appealing to fan service requests.
No valid reason maybe, but there is a valid explanation why that could happen by accident. I've left so many enemies alive because I end up finishing them with a blow from a warhammer that's supposed to daze them, but then there's a crit or it just does more damage than I expected leaving them knocked out with 1 HP.
There's also no valid explanation outside of meta-gaming to you doing even a single random side quest in Act 3 when there is so much at stake (gathering allies my ass) or resting for weeks in Act 1 when the game explicitly tells you that you are on a timer. Yet here we are
Very very good stuff, thank you for digging this up! I really wish there was a different line for Minthara though, when she asks you why you spared her in the goblin camp. Something along the lines of “Oh no I definitely meant to kill you. Yet somehow you’re still here.” That’s always the way I’ve tried to justify it when I’m playing a good character that still wants Minthara. Because it makes little sense otherwise why you’d want to spare her.
Well, in Patch 4, she had an earlier draft of these lines, as well as different options from the player. Nothing quite like what you suggest, though. "You seemed like a powerful ally but I couldn't bring myself to kill the innocent tieflings." "I found you intriguing and wanted you as a travelling companion but you seemed too set in your war path"
@@GabbyJFS_02 Oh, it was IMPOSSIBLE back then, too, so you didn't miss anything hahah. But the version from the video is accessible in Patch 7. Huzzah!
Thanks again for showing this stuff off!! Super cool, I'll be interested to see what changes when the new patch arrives. Your occasional editing of the dialog strings as little easter eggs in the video gave me a good laugh. Especially the Shadowheart "Yes I'm a hater and a gatekeeper" meme, lmao
I plan to look into what's changed in the files as soon as I can get my hands on the new patch. I do make joke edits to the in-game text in this (and other videos), but that Shadowheart line is actually in the game, during the epilogue . . It requires (no joke) being a Githyanki Dark Urge Cleric who didn't romance Shadowheart. You can find videos of it with the associated voiced lines on TH-cam if you wanna see it hahah.
@@SlimXG NO WAY... 😭 THAT'S SO FUNNY Genuinely, I had no idea they snuck that joke in there. I knew they put in a reference to Bing Bong from the cast D&D stream, but not that one. That's hilarious. I feel like I learn something new about this game every day lmao
They should really have restored the shard dismisal lines. When my girlfriend dismissed her fir the first time she hated shard's reaction so much she never re-recruited her again
I have no idea why TH-cam didn't notify me of this video. But it was great! :D So interesting to find out even a little about what is happening under the hood of the game.
Shadowheart is confirmed to be the most commonly romanced origin character in the entire game be it from Tav or another origin character. However Dark Urge is the only one the statistics are all over the place in numbers.
I think a lot of the impossible tags will be removed in patch 7. They had some lines in previous patch releases but they were buggy (such as Astarion's kiss lead ins where he says you don't have to ask but I'm glad you do etc).
Yeah, it's certainly possible. We already know that the Minthara knocked out dialogue is in Patch 7, and appears to play just like it does in Patch 6. I will be investigating all the changes as soon as the new patch arrives.
the funny thing is that the VA for karlach said she would talk about it more when it was triggered naturally. guess were never getting that from her XD [Impossible]
Oh ... wait a second, do you know if any of those lines were newly added by any chance? Because the dock lines for Gale sound like they are meant for Avatar-Gale (since he gets personally addressed) and I wonder if that means that they maybe have patched up his good ending so that he now gets a complete dock scene too. Currently, it's cut when looking at the river and gets Karlach's scene stuck on it without transition, missing the choice to got to a tavern together and watching Astarion's moment in the sun.
I haven't done extensive comparisons between versions, though I do know of at least a few IMPOSSIBLE lines that are in Patch 6 that were not in version 1.0. Not sure about the Gale on dock ones, specifically.
Yeah, Lae'zel is the only other companion with more to her phrases, when you kick her out. It changes from under 20 approval, over 20 approval, and Partnered.
Can you talk about (spawn) Astarion's hidden reaction to the player cheating on him with Mizora? Every other companion had voiced reactions and I saw that there are voiced lines of him being very upset and hurt (understandably), but for some reason they can't be triggered currently. It's interesting because he acts like he's fine with if he's ascended and those lines ARE in the game. But in the hidden spawn dialogue he's very upset and you even have to roll a persuasion check to prevent him from breaking up with you.
That one is similar to the ones in the Epilogue that I chose not to try to show. They have voice lines in the files, but the scene doesn't play properly in-game, no camera angles, voice, etc.
@@SlimXGEven if you only have the text to show for a brief second on the screen I think they would still be interesting to me to include in your videos
@SlimXG that's fair! It's honestly crazy how much quality voice acting was recorded but left out of the game. Wish they would have kept a lot of it. I think Halsin and Minthara also have some interesting hidden lines that reveal a lot about them.
OH, THIS EXPLAINS WHY I GOT THAT MINTHARA QUESTION IN MY RECENT PLAYTHROUGH BUT NOT THE PREVIOUS PLAYTHROUGH WHERE I SAVED HER. My other playthrough was on patch 6, not 7. Minthara asking why I spared her actually made me feel so confronted. Why did I kill the others but spare her besides some meta knowledge? Mystery solved! And I'm extremely glad they re-enabled that scene!!
I doubt Larian would do this but an perfect answer for Mintharas question would be "Do you believe in Love of the first sight?" And then see could reply with something Minthara great. xD
I hope they add in the stuff about knocking minthara out, but add a option to say she was just to sexy to kill, cause, lets be honest, that’s why a lot of people save her
I'm wondering with mod support coming in patch 7 if ppl will be able to restore certain lines or properly add them to the game. Since Larian won't be adding anymore content afterwards I'm curious to see how the game will continue with mods
I am curious, as well. A lot of what I do right now via brute force will probably be easier with proper modding tools. Though things like missing mocap can't really be fixed.
I actually got that minthara doalogue about sparing her lol, I had recently head about the recruitment changes and did everything as a standard "good" playthrough, except leaving her as the sole survivor of the camp instead of killing her. I was impressed they had it ready to go like that! I wonder if it changes if Dror and Gut are kept alive too🤔
Awe those lines for our favorite princess when you dismiss her from the party :( I wish they didn't cut those! Hope there Wil be mods to add these cut lines back into the game
Can confirm about the 4th wall scene for Karlach. Maybe playing directly after release during the initial burst of patches, transferring saves between versions triggered some bugs?
Yeah, I can't rule out some weird bug or corruption causing the wrong scene to play. All I know is that it had the IMPOSSIBLE flag already in version 1.0
@@SlimXG All I remember from that point (oh god it's been more than a year) is that the conversation did feel 'organic' in the sense that it did feel correct in context, albeit of course a surprising wall break. So not like a completely random scene played during a regular convo with her.
It's uncanny seeing the Tav actually talking in a cutscene. I wish there more scenes like this through the game. I heard the Minthara knockdown dialogue will be actually added into the game in Patch 7.
I know there's one that can trigger during the Githyanki patrol meeting in Act 1, but I haven't gone searching for others, yet. And yeah, I'm hoping some of these others will be in Patch 7, just like Minthara. There are a bunch in the Epilogue that I didn't show because they don't play properly, but I've already seen footage of one of them (with Wyll) from the Patch 7 beta.
Another great video. What softwares or methods do you use to parse the dialog and alter flags? I think I recognize BG3 Dialogue Reader, but that's about as much as I know. I don't know if Cheat Engine or Script Extender console can alter any and all flags. I've mainly just seen guides on romance flags, so I would appreciate any insight you could provide. Thank you.
For this video, I used most of the tools currently at my disposal, including Cheat Engine, Script Extender, BG3 Dialog Reader, LSLib Toolkit, Foobar2000, and of course, Notepad++ Flags can be changed with both the Script Extender and Cheat Engine, though you need to track down the UUID to do so. Just knowing the name of the flag from the parsed dialogue files isn't enough on its own. I usually find the flag UUIDs from a combination of the Goals files and save file Database. The associated Cheat Engine forum thread has a list of a lot of the UUIDs that I sometimes use, though it has not been updated in a while, so it lacks any flags from the Epilogue or other newer content.
the cut minthara lines sounds like the devs scolding players for not discovering the game for themselves and doing things they learned online only (like me lol)
Weird, I wonder why those lines when you step into the Shadow-cursed Lands got removed??? The last time I did playthroughs was several patches ago and I got it as a Drow and Wyll Origin, and I remember liking hearing them since the Origins rarely speak....
Yeah, they were in there until Patch 4. That's when they were all flagged IMPOSSIBLE. Since there are a couple issues with them (Wyll's spoken line differing from what's written, and the cut off Githyanki line), maybe they just decided they weren't worth fixing.
Would have been a good addition for Minthara if when you knock her out you could take her unconscious body and take it to camp with you. Which would allow you to have her before your first visit to Moonrise. Cause they did have allot of Minthara dialogue involving the Mountain Pass but she will not go to any of the act 1 locations, and you can't go back to those areas after defeating Kethoric. But would that really require allot of rework? Since they do already have a version of the trial at moonrise that doesn't involve Minthara. If you killed her that is.
A LOT of this content had the IMPOSSIBLE flag removed in Patch 7, making it accessible. But before you get TOO exited, Karlach's Fourth Wall scene is still blocked. But it's not IMPOSSIBLE anymore! Now, it's "DEPRECATED" . .
And sadly, Shadowheart is still unhuggable.
(This video was recorded on Patch 6, version 4.1.1.5022896)
We did infact, need him to get started on the inconceivable flag
Go on, I wanna watch that video!
WHAT??? And you're not going to explain any further?
I wonder if that is in there as a princess bride reference lol
you make it, i'll watch it
DM: "So what's your character's motivation?"
Gale's Player: "Mystra. 🗿 The weave. 🗿"
That broke me lmao
Tav: "Heya Gale, whats up?"
Gale: "Mysta."
Tav: "Right... What about her?"
Gale: "The weave."
Tav: "uh huh..."
The crown. Karsus.
@@SlimXG **the Orb**
@@deptusmechanikus7362 *ELYSIUM*
They for sure dont want to step in there...
It's the way they all say it with the same cadence
Actually, I think they're NOT sure.
Gale glanced at the water for a few seconds, and everyone verbally dogpiled him.
real bullying gale hours
I love when Minthara calls him Wizard 😭
@@DubGamin420 He's not even worthy of being called by his name with his pitiful third son energy.
@ don't do my dawg like that. He's just an emotional lil guy 😭
@@DubGamin420 She bullies him so much.
We learned that they don't want to step in there
Removing “I’m not sure that I want to step in there,” is definitely good idea. It would definitely confuse tons of players and make them walk away 😅
Well, I'm not sure they want to step in there
@@takealilpill347 I hate to be that guy, but I'm not sure they want to step in there
I know what you mean! I almost missed Gale in my first play through because I thought the malfunctioning portal being described as “dangerous” by the narrator was tantamount to the DM asking “are you sure you want to do this?”.
@@kimosterhout3242 Big same. I only got him at all because I'd heard his name from other friends who were playing it, and realized in Act 2 that I probably should have met him by now.
r/okbuddybaldur is going to have fun with "Ketheric stiffens at the sight of you"
I just had to include it . .
I love how shadowheart’s voice actor does such a great job showing her subtly start to question things. She’s slightly in awe of her goddess’s presence and power, but she is also disturbed by what a place touched by her goddess actually looks like
But she also doesn't want to step in there.
@@SlimXG She for sure does not want to step in there
14:39
Mystra 🗿
The Weave 🗿
The crown.
I absolutely lost it when those came up
@@Littlepup93 He has even more just like that, but I narrowed it down to a couple of my favorites
time traveller: moves a gnome
Gale:
gale lore in nutshell
“The Narrator won’t shut up about how awesome you are.” The DM should be your #1 fan!!
6:57 Shadowheart also has unique dialogue here if you're playing as Resist!Durge and Origin!Lae'zel, telling you that your defiance against your urge/god inspired her to turn away from Shar. It's really sweet.
Ahh, yeah. Come to think of it, I shoulda put those extra versions in, too. 🫤
Would've loved the option to hug all companions with high enough approval, whenever at camp. I want all the hugs... 🥺
Luckily, you can with a mod. If you are able to play with mods. Best thing I've done in a game!
@@musicadictor Perhaps when the day comes I can afford something more than a basic laptop from half a decade ago. Too broke to get much, nowadays. 😞
Me showing up to find out if I owe you $500.
Seems like this is confirmation you won’t have to owe anyone. Unless someone figures out a way to naturally trick the game into flipping the Impossible switch.
And if you did, you'd be stuck in a nightmare where Karlach wants to, "try something on you" every time you talk to her . .
The thought did once cross my mind to mod it into the game in some out of the way spot, then make up highly specific and intricate instructions on how to unlock it. But I guess I'm just too honest . .
@@SlimXG I had one person email me that they had found the method, and wrote a massive post about the method being the same NPC you mentioned that activates that impossible tag. Then I went in game to test it and it didn't work. It was way overly complicated and titled "I"ll take the $500" or something like that lol
@@ProxyGateTactician See, at least I woulda made up some huge wild goose chase, a la It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World to see if I could get people to actually do it
Minthara wanting to know why we saved her and not having the REAL answer in the choices 😂
Drussy
Damn there's a lot of these, apparently there's an impossible tag on trying to speak to dead with Halsin if he dies after getting kidnapped by Orin. In said dialogue if you ask him how he met his end he says "Orin's blades" and "I hoped my friends would save me..."
I wonder why it's stuck behind the impossible tag. I had Halsin die to Orin one run and he says his death was from Minthara.
Yeah, I originally planned to include that, but it doesn't animate or play the voice lines, so it didn't look like much when it comes to a video.
@@SlimXG That's a shame! But the video is still great without it.
Maybe pay the voice actor to fake the whole thing, include it, and then a year from now release a video called "Baldur's Gate 3's Biggest Scandal" admitting to the whole thing
@@Aidez Hahah well, I have the voice lines, just like the ones I played for Shadowheart, there's just nothing to look at
guys, I don't think they want to step in there
I wish Shadowheart's dismissal from party voice lines were available in game...
Why aren’t they?????
@@TykoBrian7Video said that they’re bugged.
Yeah, that one is especially strange to me, since they seem to be all ready to go. Maybe they cut them to balance her out with the other companions that don't have 14 different parting lines . .
@@SlimXG Why is SH so overworked?
not same, she doesn't leave my party either way so it's not like I'd ever hear them
i also laughed at gale's lines. "mystra 😡" "the weave. 😐"
Mystra. The Weave.
Karsus.
The crown
Gale's lines are killing me omg
Thank you for doing these types of videos! Can't wait for the "INCONCEIVABLE" flag video!!
That flag mayyy be made up. But this flag is real: "WyllUsedDaddyCard"
@@SlimXGI know exactly what choice that is, I did a “Won’t Run” with an evil hornless origin Wyll and he says to the guards at the gate “Not closed to Duke Ulder Ravengard’s son surely?” He gets a situational advantage dice for “Son of Grand Duke Elder Ravengard” to pass the 30 DC persuasion check.
The only reason I know all this is I laughed when it appeared and took a pic to send to a friend, and then had to take another pic because I got a Nat 20
I really appreciate your videos because they show not only all the dialogue but you actually give context to the dialogue as well. So often I see shorts of dialogue I've never seen but I have no idea how they got to that point
Thank you. I'm all about the "how."
The narrator's rant at 11:28 feels like a sarcastic response if you told her she spent too much time in the game bullying you.
They did say the next patch is going to add some reactivity to (mommy) Minthara when you chose to knock her out, I'm guessing this is part of it.
For the impossible Karlach scene I bet they left it in the release version as a small easter egg or something and later patched it out, that's why some people say they've seen it in game.
Yeah I'm wondering if the karlach scene used to be possible but has since been patched out
I can't say for sure. But the original version 1.0 dialogue files have the same IMPOSSIBLE flag blocking the trigger.
Or maybe they saw it in the EA version?
@@Littlepup93 IIRC in the EA version you couldn't recruit Karlach, pretty sure they only added her for the full release.
@@SlimXGim assuming you already looked through the 1.0 files to see if anything sets the flag?
Or if the current accidental flag set is still there?
5:31 It would have been interesting if there was a line hinting at the player falling for Minthara. Just something along the lines of "I saw something in you. I couldn't bring myself to do it".
It would even fit the same "Sparing an enemy's life is..." voice line, with an extra approval point from our favorite drow.
"You were simply too stubborn to die."
"You were simply too hot to kill."
@@SlimXG "You chose to incapacitate me. Why?"
"I was hoping you would return the favor"
@bertalankovacs8322 the bard class dialog
@@SlimXG "You describe me accurately."
A lot of those Shadowheart lines were added in the files in some of the last patches. It's not cut content, but yet to be fully implemented content. There are also two entire camp files for Shadowheart where she prays to Shar in camp and plays with the Owlbear/Scratch. Now those two files have been around since release, so I'm not sure if they'll ever implement them, but they did implement the stool dialogue recently which was in the same boat as those two.
Yeah, "cut content" is just sorta shorthand for all this stuff. For example, the Minthara knocked out dialogue has been in the files since 1.5, but in 1.4 it was there in rough draft form with totally different lines (she was way meaner to you).
Patch7 save us.
If I didn't already keep Shadowheart as a forever team mate, these impossible "wait at camp" lines certainly would make me keep her.
I'm heartbroken sharts hugs are bugged 😭
God I didn't know Shadowheart had _that_ many voice lines and hugs that are bugged or just inaccessible. I hope we can hug her as much as we want next patch 🥺
It feels like she was the first companion they made so makes sense she has the most lines. She has weird things no one else does like how you can ask her what she thinks of you through the whole game
@theredeft5319 Halsin also has dialogue where you can ask him that. They are unique to these two because they share the same writer.
In terms of sheer number of voicelines though, Astarion has the most by far.
The fact that even her normal, non-IMPOSSIBLE hug during the end game is also bugged right now makes me hope that her whole hugging system is fixed in Patch 7, but we'll see.
Boo calling Tara a Bat-Cat. 😂😂😂
Just when I thought Shadowheart couldn't get any more damn adorable. Those dismissal lines when you're together are precious
The minthara dialogue was wonderful! it seemed weird why she never asked about you knocking her out and stealing all her items
1:14 Huh. I always headcanoned the Lolth-Sworn answer, nice to see that the can be the actual reason.
The Minthara bit in Moonrise was probably cut because there is no valid explanation for knocking her out outside of meta-gaming or extremely convoluted motivations.
It's an interesting piece of dialogue no doubt but one the game couldn't accomodate for in its current form.
Well you could be playing a pacifist run and be non/lethaling everyone? Of course most people would be meta gaming but it’s possible it was Larian just prepping for someone doing something rare. I dunno I think they should have kept it. Meta gaming or not your character did decide not to kill her for some reason, it should be brought up.
@@theredeft5319 No, they only allowed that method later because it was an exploit glitch. So they just moved some code to make it easier to accomplish. The point is though that they decided they didnt want players to have Minthara if they saved the Grove and because of the glitch “allowed it” again.
The player base I notice has a hard time understanding this concept. Admittedly it’s Larians own doing because they keep appealing to fan service requests.
No valid reason maybe, but there is a valid explanation why that could happen by accident. I've left so many enemies alive because I end up finishing them with a blow from a warhammer that's supposed to daze them, but then there's a crit or it just does more damage than I expected leaving them knocked out with 1 HP.
@@loadishstoneno1 is gonna say goodbye to best loot and half of quests in game for minthara. If it was shadowheart maybe, penises do control men.
There's also no valid explanation outside of meta-gaming to you doing even a single random side quest in Act 3 when there is so much at stake (gathering allies my ass) or resting for weeks in Act 1 when the game explicitly tells you that you are on a timer. Yet here we are
M y s t r a 😂
The orb.
T H E W E A V E
More hugs for Shadowheart! Larian please 🥺
She also doesn't want to step in there.
Especially more hugs for Karlach
I remember Neil talking about a ton of hidden stuff involving Astarion
I'll definitely be looking deeper into Astarion scenes and mechanics in the likely near future
Very very good stuff, thank you for digging this up! I really wish there was a different line for Minthara though, when she asks you why you spared her in the goblin camp. Something along the lines of “Oh no I definitely meant to kill you. Yet somehow you’re still here.” That’s always the way I’ve tried to justify it when I’m playing a good character that still wants Minthara. Because it makes little sense otherwise why you’d want to spare her.
Well, in Patch 4, she had an earlier draft of these lines, as well as different options from the player. Nothing quite like what you suggest, though.
"You seemed like a powerful ally but I couldn't bring myself to kill the innocent tieflings."
"I found you intriguing and wanted you as a travelling companion but you seemed too set in your war path"
Interesting, thank you for including this! I didn’t get the game until March of this year so I unfortunately missed out on a lot of the earlier stuff.
@@GabbyJFS_02 Oh, it was IMPOSSIBLE back then, too, so you didn't miss anything hahah. But the version from the video is accessible in Patch 7. Huzzah!
Oh gotcha, that makes sense. Now I just have to wait for October when patch 7 drops on console…the wait is killing me lol
Currently my favourite channel on TH-cam. Can't wait for the Act 3 guide!
Well that's quite the praise; thank you. Act 3 guide is still in the works and will come out . . when it's done. >.>
I have had Shadowheart's lines about her haircut before. I didn't know it was meant to be a "cut" content.
She still has some other lines about it, just those top two that I showed are the one that are cut.
They're cut! Of course you didn't have them!
@@SlimXGiirc she has resist Durge ones which are pretty good
Bro I'm not sure I want to step in there
I think Minthara's lines about knocking her out will be in the next patch.
Here's hopin'
It definitely is now - I got minthara after knocking her out without raiding the grove and I got this dialogue :)
@@aetheristiq3540 Yep, a bunch of the stuff in this video became normal content in Patch 7. Kinda made my timing on this video pretty bad hahah
Man I’m sad they cut the line for Gale staring towards the crown, those roasts by Vampire lord Astarion and Minthara were hilarious
I wonder if they'll be added in Patch 7 like the "companions actually sound empathetic instead of meh about Spawnstarian running from the sun" lines.
Your videos keep getting more interesting!
Well, now the pressure's on!
Gale’s short, cut lines feel like we’re playing a word association game with the word being “Gale”.
Hahah very good. I may have to find a time to put up the full list of lines, since they're all like that. "The orb." "Karsus." etc.
Based Karlach is based at 0:58
Reasons to live: Shadowheart telling you to be safe out there
I get the feeling the party doesn't want to step in that
I'm not sure, but I think they may not be sure they want to
Thanks again for showing this stuff off!! Super cool, I'll be interested to see what changes when the new patch arrives. Your occasional editing of the dialog strings as little easter eggs in the video gave me a good laugh. Especially the Shadowheart "Yes I'm a hater and a gatekeeper" meme, lmao
I plan to look into what's changed in the files as soon as I can get my hands on the new patch.
I do make joke edits to the in-game text in this (and other videos), but that Shadowheart line is actually in the game, during the epilogue . . It requires (no joke) being a Githyanki Dark Urge Cleric who didn't romance Shadowheart. You can find videos of it with the associated voiced lines on TH-cam if you wanna see it hahah.
@@SlimXG NO WAY... 😭 THAT'S SO FUNNY
Genuinely, I had no idea they snuck that joke in there. I knew they put in a reference to Bing Bong from the cast D&D stream, but not that one. That's hilarious. I feel like I learn something new about this game every day lmao
that call to action at the end was genius 😂
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They should really have restored the shard dismisal lines. When my girlfriend dismissed her fir the first time she hated shard's reaction so much she never re-recruited her again
I have no idea why TH-cam didn't notify me of this video. But it was great! :D So interesting to find out even a little about what is happening under the hood of the game.
Its actually so cool that they added a lot of the cut voicelines back in patch 7
Yes, indeed. Though they still didn't fix the subtitles for Wyll or cutoff line when walking into the Shadow-cursed Lands hahah
Shadowheart is confirmed to be the most commonly romanced origin character in the entire game be it from Tav or another origin character.
However Dark Urge is the only one the statistics are all over the place in numbers.
I just love Minthara's voice.
Agreed. It's a shame how rarely she gets picked up as a companion.
“What in the Hells is thAt????”
I died 😂
My first casualty 😞
“mind yourself out there”
Thanks for the video , really made my day but... I'm not sure I want to step in there.
I think a lot of the impossible tags will be removed in patch 7. They had some lines in previous patch releases but they were buggy (such as Astarion's kiss lead ins where he says you don't have to ask but I'm glad you do etc).
Yeah, it's certainly possible. We already know that the Minthara knocked out dialogue is in Patch 7, and appears to play just like it does in Patch 6. I will be investigating all the changes as soon as the new patch arrives.
"I'm not sure I want to step in there"
Huh! Wyll's shadow curse dialogue says "beard", not "bones" like in the subtitles 😮
I guess rarely anyone sees it 😅
Yeah, and it's even the same difference in both versions of the line.
the funny thing is that the VA for karlach said she would talk about it more when it was triggered naturally. guess were never getting that from her XD [Impossible]
Oh ... wait a second, do you know if any of those lines were newly added by any chance? Because the dock lines for Gale sound like they are meant for Avatar-Gale (since he gets personally addressed) and I wonder if that means that they maybe have patched up his good ending so that he now gets a complete dock scene too. Currently, it's cut when looking at the river and gets Karlach's scene stuck on it without transition, missing the choice to got to a tavern together and watching Astarion's moment in the sun.
I haven't done extensive comparisons between versions, though I do know of at least a few IMPOSSIBLE lines that are in Patch 6 that were not in version 1.0. Not sure about the Gale on dock ones, specifically.
I did think it was odd the way Shadowheart was always so snippy when dismissing her 😂
I wish the companions were nicer when you left them at camp. Halsin is the only nice one who acts concerned for your well being.
Yeah, Lae'zel is the only other companion with more to her phrases, when you kick her out. It changes from under 20 approval, over 20 approval, and Partnered.
Aaaaaaahhh I needed this Minthara questing! I get the tadpoles basically instantly catch her up on EVERYTHING, but come ooooon…. I’m biased af!
Can you talk about (spawn) Astarion's hidden reaction to the player cheating on him with Mizora? Every other companion had voiced reactions and I saw that there are voiced lines of him being very upset and hurt (understandably), but for some reason they can't be triggered currently. It's interesting because he acts like he's fine with if he's ascended and those lines ARE in the game. But in the hidden spawn dialogue he's very upset and you even have to roll a persuasion check to prevent him from breaking up with you.
That one is similar to the ones in the Epilogue that I chose not to try to show. They have voice lines in the files, but the scene doesn't play properly in-game, no camera angles, voice, etc.
@@SlimXGEven if you only have the text to show for a brief second on the screen I think they would still be interesting to me to include in your videos
@SlimXG that's fair! It's honestly crazy how much quality voice acting was recorded but left out of the game. Wish they would have kept a lot of it. I think Halsin and Minthara also have some interesting hidden lines that reveal a lot about them.
Can we mod the “step in there” lines to work for the outhouses in act 2? Thanks 👍🏽
forbidden Shadowheart hug
Hug bug
I wouldn't mind the narrator just hyping me up endlessly.
Tav speaking during the cutscene when going to the shadow curse can still trigger. I got it playing a drow on ps5
Recently? It seems it was a normal part of the game until Patch 4.
I remember getting the haircut bit from Shadowheart. She asked me how it looked. She had a helmet on.
Yeah, it's just those extra two lines at the top of the list that I showed that are blocked from the normal conversation.
I kinda wish they kept the Gale commentary at the end of the game
I love how Shadowheart takes 2 minutes to say goodbye to you.
OH, THIS EXPLAINS WHY I GOT THAT MINTHARA QUESTION IN MY RECENT PLAYTHROUGH BUT NOT THE PREVIOUS PLAYTHROUGH WHERE I SAVED HER.
My other playthrough was on patch 6, not 7. Minthara asking why I spared her actually made me feel so confronted. Why did I kill the others but spare her besides some meta knowledge?
Mystery solved! And I'm extremely glad they re-enabled that scene!!
I doubt Larian would do this but an perfect answer for Mintharas question would be "Do you believe in Love of the first sight?" And then see could reply with something Minthara great. xD
Now this is I need to see much more of
I hope they add in the stuff about knocking minthara out, but add a option to say she was just to sexy to kill, cause, lets be honest, that’s why a lot of people save her
"You were simply too stubborn to die."
"You were simply too sexy to kill."
CHA 18+: "It would be such a shameful waste of your beauty, among other things."
3:20 aw man, now I'll never know what he was gonna say
I can't say for sure, but I'm pretty sure he's not sure he wants to step in there.
I smell it. More niche cool things and discoveries about BG3... Feed me more.
Ok:
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@13:17 My friend Minthara is the funniest person I know. (Just starting it "Wizard" already had me anticipating gold.)
I'm wondering with mod support coming in patch 7 if ppl will be able to restore certain lines or properly add them to the game. Since Larian won't be adding anymore content afterwards I'm curious to see how the game will continue with mods
I am curious, as well. A lot of what I do right now via brute force will probably be easier with proper modding tools. Though things like missing mocap can't really be fixed.
My man, I know this is completely unrelated to this video but any news on part 3 of the honor mode guide? 🙏🏻
News is that I still plan to make it, just a matter of when. Going to wait until after Patch 7 so that I can cover any big changes.
@@SlimXG that makes a lot of sense, yeah! Thank you for the reply and keep up the good work 😁🙏🏻
There are more bugs for Shadowheart??? Also please keep making these videos! Cut/hidden content is so cool!
Shadowheart always has more of everything than everyone else
The Wyll line having the wrong subtitles is funny
"Because you're a hot drow lady" Should be a dialogue choice
I actually got that minthara doalogue about sparing her lol, I had recently head about the recruitment changes and did everything as a standard "good" playthrough, except leaving her as the sole survivor of the camp instead of killing her. I was impressed they had it ready to go like that! I wonder if it changes if Dror and Gut are kept alive too🤔
Soon we’ll see if any of this gets updated by patch 7!
I'm gonna dig into the new files as soon as I can to see what's changed
I would PAY MONEY for the DLC to get them to not be grumpy when you dismiss them. STOP BEING BABIES AND GO BACK TO CAMP
Awe those lines for our favorite princess when you dismiss her from the party :( I wish they didn't cut those! Hope there Wil be mods to add these cut lines back into the game
Can confirm about the 4th wall scene for Karlach. Maybe playing directly after release during the initial burst of patches, transferring saves between versions triggered some bugs?
Yeah, I can't rule out some weird bug or corruption causing the wrong scene to play. All I know is that it had the IMPOSSIBLE flag already in version 1.0
@@SlimXG All I remember from that point (oh god it's been more than a year) is that the conversation did feel 'organic' in the sense that it did feel correct in context, albeit of course a surprising wall break. So not like a completely random scene played during a regular convo with her.
LARIAN! Where are my shadow hugs!!!!!!!
"MYSTRA. THE WEAVE." Oh my gods Gale we GET it 🙄
It's uncanny seeing the Tav actually talking in a cutscene. I wish there more scenes like this through the game.
I heard the Minthara knockdown dialogue will be actually added into the game in Patch 7.
I know there's one that can trigger during the Githyanki patrol meeting in Act 1, but I haven't gone searching for others, yet. And yeah, I'm hoping some of these others will be in Patch 7, just like Minthara. There are a bunch in the Epilogue that I didn't show because they don't play properly, but I've already seen footage of one of them (with Wyll) from the Patch 7 beta.
I would have really liked the different "send to camp" companion lines for Shadowheart
Another great video. What softwares or methods do you use to parse the dialog and alter flags? I think I recognize BG3 Dialogue Reader, but that's about as much as I know.
I don't know if Cheat Engine or Script Extender console can alter any and all flags. I've mainly just seen guides on romance flags, so I would appreciate any insight you could provide. Thank you.
For this video, I used most of the tools currently at my disposal, including Cheat Engine, Script Extender, BG3 Dialog Reader, LSLib Toolkit, Foobar2000, and of course, Notepad++
Flags can be changed with both the Script Extender and Cheat Engine, though you need to track down the UUID to do so. Just knowing the name of the flag from the parsed dialogue files isn't enough on its own. I usually find the flag UUIDs from a combination of the Goals files and save file Database. The associated Cheat Engine forum thread has a list of a lot of the UUIDs that I sometimes use, though it has not been updated in a while, so it lacks any flags from the Epilogue or other newer content.
I desperately need a modder with more skill then me to activate these Shadowheart dismissal lines.
the cut minthara lines sounds like the devs scolding players for not discovering the game for themselves and doing things they learned online only (like me lol)
And there's an earlier rough draft of that dialogue back in the Patch 4 files where she's much meaner to you.
Weird, I wonder why those lines when you step into the Shadow-cursed Lands got removed??? The last time I did playthroughs was several patches ago and I got it as a Drow and Wyll Origin, and I remember liking hearing them since the Origins rarely speak....
Yeah, they were in there until Patch 4. That's when they were all flagged IMPOSSIBLE. Since there are a couple issues with them (Wyll's spoken line differing from what's written, and the cut off Githyanki line), maybe they just decided they weren't worth fixing.
Would have been a good addition for Minthara if when you knock her out you could take her unconscious body and take it to camp with you. Which would allow you to have her before your first visit to Moonrise. Cause they did have allot of Minthara dialogue involving the Mountain Pass but she will not go to any of the act 1 locations, and you can't go back to those areas after defeating Kethoric. But would that really require allot of rework? Since they do already have a version of the trial at moonrise that doesn't involve Minthara. If you killed her that is.