@@SpaceRexWill It just doesn't fit again. I'm waiting for a router with 6 x 2.5GbE with PoE+ that has 2 SFP+ WAN connections so you can hook up the U7Pro's or U6E's. It would be IDEAL for small/mid businesses.
Last time I upgraded my router I decided against the UDM and built an opnsense box because back then Unify was a privacy nightmare with devices constantly phoning home and sending logs. The pro max seems like a great device, especially the 5Gbit IPS is great for the price. I was wondering if Ubiquiti has finally seized to spy on its customers or at least given them a proper mechanism to opt out, or if they still collect everything you do *anoymized*?
I really enjoy your channel and watch a lot of you videos. Overall, you do a great job. However, you are incorrect about the 2 ports only being able to do 500 MB a piece. All 8 ports can do 1 GbE at the same time. I have seen this tested and it works. You should really test this stuff out before you tell people stuff like that.
I"ve been runnign this for like a few weeks and i can only say the chip inside this system really old and it's hot LOL , i have no idea why do they have to be so cheap when it comes to using a good cpu
Was really hoping for a UDM Pro with 2.5gbe ports instead of 1gbe. New WAPs need 2.5 for full throughput utilization. While very few devices make use of it currently, that will change over the next few years.
This is a great video. It's just the sort of thing I'm looking for when there's a new product announcement--less what does it do, more who is it for. :) From this video, as a home/home office user with a moderately complicated but low-user network, it sounds like the UDM SE would still be the ideal rack-mount product for me. I've got 1 Gbps fiber now, and could eventually move to 2 Gbps, and it sounds like the UDM SE would be more than enough for anything I could conceivably want to do. (Right now, I'm on an OPNSense firewall and a QNAP core switch, using a Unifi AP and Pro Max 24. I envision switching to a Dream Machine SE someday to centralize my network management, but I'm not in any hurry to do it yet.) At this point, now that they've effectively set their price points for various flavors of Dream Machine, it'll be interesting to see how future iterations of the SE/Pro Max progress in terms of hardware performance. I'm curious who isn't yet being served by the actual switching capacity and upstream/downstream link speed of something like the UDM Pro Max.
@SpaceRex It's faster but slower. Ubiquiti's competitors likes SonicWall, Cisco, etc. All have in the last year or two added a separate CPU for IDS/IPS so that the wire speed of their firewall's isn't degraded when IDS/IPS is running.
Do i have to wait a day after a blackout for it to work again? That is my only grip about mine. I get a blackout (home user) and the Dream Machine needs about 12 hours before it will reboot properly. I know I am far from the only person with this issue. The Squirrells in my yard fucking with my Transformers vs 12 hour reboots. Third time asking about this, wish someone would do the test.
Do you have the AC cord plugged in for those 12 hours? Have you tried puling the power cord and letting it sit for a few minutes before plugging back in?
@@timramich I do have a UPS but it does not cover 24-72 hours of which most of my blackouts are. I am looking at solar because Detroit Edison is so bad.
@@jordanc8926 I didnt realize that the adhesive was doing more than just covering the face, but holding them in. It's a LOT of money for me, so I didn't want to push too hard an break something (not an uncommon occurrence in my world).
@@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios it's not adhesive that's holding the drive bay in on the UDM Pro series. It's a push button latch that pops open when you push the dot. very easy, no force needed.
@@jordanc8926 What I was saying is that the "packing material" which had the covering stickers on them when I got it, I didn't realize that they went all of the way across the bay. I wanted to have a good look around, but didn't want to remove bay packing because I won't have cameras for a couple of months. So, I was trying to see a complete unboxing video to see "how" the bay was openend, without just pushing random things around the bay, and unpacking areas which wouldn't be used for a while..
"Pro Max" with no PoE and 8 GbE ports? Yup, seems like Apple. On a sidenote: This is not an upgrade to the SE, it's for a different use-case.
Sounds like the first half of your message is asking for a UDM Pro Max SE🙃
It is absolutely a different use case.
It's built to be a router first. You dont want this unless you have an SFP+ switch as your uplink
@@SpaceRexWill It just doesn't fit again. I'm waiting for a router with 6 x 2.5GbE with PoE+ that has 2 SFP+ WAN connections so you can hook up the U7Pro's or U6E's. It would be IDEAL for small/mid businesses.
Yep, and there’s nothing wrong with the way it is built tbh. If you need this throughput you aren’t concerned about the integrated 8 port capabilities
Anyone who has this is going to use a dedicated POE switch. A home user that doesn’t need more than 8 ports doesn’t need a max.
Last time I upgraded my router I decided against the UDM and built an opnsense box because back then Unify was a privacy nightmare with devices constantly phoning home and sending logs. The pro max seems like a great device, especially the 5Gbit IPS is great for the price.
I was wondering if Ubiquiti has finally seized to spy on its customers or at least given them a proper mechanism to opt out, or if they still collect everything you do *anoymized*?
I really enjoy your channel and watch a lot of you videos. Overall, you do a great job. However, you are incorrect about the 2 ports only being able to do 500 MB a piece. All 8 ports can do 1 GbE at the same time. I have seen this tested and it works. You should really test this stuff out before you tell people stuff like that.
Finally I can replace my Dream Machine 1st gen 😎
I"ve been runnign this for like a few weeks and i can only say the chip inside this system really old and it's hot LOL , i have no idea why do they have to be so cheap when it comes to using a good cpu
How much RAM? The massive slowdown I get on the old Pro model was almost always due to the 4GB of RAM being maxed out.
8GB
Just another way to resell yesterday's tech with minor upgrades.
Does not really look too impressive or much of an upgrade.
Was really hoping for a UDM Pro with 2.5gbe ports instead of 1gbe.
New WAPs need 2.5 for full throughput utilization.
While very few devices make use of it currently, that will change over the next few years.
Yeah for sure the benefits of 2.5 for WAP clients is much more beneficial than 2.5gb for wired devices.
They should do away with those 8 ports and have another drive slot.
I personally really like the ports for IPMI and low bandwidth stuff
Just get the 4 bay expansion
@@zzKirus Lolwhat? Those are NVR devices. They are standalone and don't share resources with other devices like the UDMs.
What I didn‘t understand so far: Is the automatic shadow mode a thing that comes with UniFi OS version 4 or is it restricted to the UDM Pro Max?
As far as I have heard is 4.0. It should be available on UDMP (I think)
Confirming Automatic Shadow Mode will be available on 4.0 for rack-mounted Dream Machine devices. (UDM Pro / SE / Pro Max). Thank you.
This is a great video. It's just the sort of thing I'm looking for when there's a new product announcement--less what does it do, more who is it for. :)
From this video, as a home/home office user with a moderately complicated but low-user network, it sounds like the UDM SE would still be the ideal rack-mount product for me. I've got 1 Gbps fiber now, and could eventually move to 2 Gbps, and it sounds like the UDM SE would be more than enough for anything I could conceivably want to do.
(Right now, I'm on an OPNSense firewall and a QNAP core switch, using a Unifi AP and Pro Max 24. I envision switching to a Dream Machine SE someday to centralize my network management, but I'm not in any hurry to do it yet.)
At this point, now that they've effectively set their price points for various flavors of Dream Machine, it'll be interesting to see how future iterations of the SE/Pro Max progress in terms of hardware performance. I'm curious who isn't yet being served by the actual switching capacity and upstream/downstream link speed of something like the UDM Pro Max.
@SpaceRex It's faster but slower. Ubiquiti's competitors likes SonicWall, Cisco, etc. All have in the last year or two added a separate CPU for IDS/IPS so that the wire speed of their firewall's isn't degraded when IDS/IPS is running.
Do i have to wait a day after a blackout for it to work again? That is my only grip about mine. I get a blackout (home user) and the Dream Machine needs about 12 hours before it will reboot properly. I know I am far from the only person with this issue. The Squirrells in my yard fucking with my Transformers vs 12 hour reboots.
Third time asking about this, wish someone would do the test.
Do you have the AC cord plugged in for those 12 hours? Have you tried puling the power cord and letting it sit for a few minutes before plugging back in?
I have never seen a 12 hour boot time on this, or even really anything.
Any chance something is broken?
Why do you have a rack-mount router and not have a UPS for anything?
@@timramich I do have a UPS but it does not cover 24-72 hours of which most of my blackouts are. I am looking at solar because Detroit Edison is so bad.
@@supernumex Oh yes......
UGGGHHH... Why does no one open the drive bays? Can someone PLEASE demonstrate the opening process?
lol they don't demonstrate it because it's very easy....push on the dot, it pops out, then pull the tray out...
@@jordanc8926 I didnt realize that the adhesive was doing more than just covering the face, but holding them in. It's a LOT of money for me, so I didn't want to push too hard an break something (not an uncommon occurrence in my world).
@@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios it's not adhesive that's holding the drive bay in on the UDM Pro series. It's a push button latch that pops open when you push the dot. very easy, no force needed.
@@jordanc8926 What I was saying is that the "packing material" which had the covering stickers on them when I got it, I didn't realize that they went all of the way across the bay. I wanted to have a good look around, but didn't want to remove bay packing because I won't have cameras for a couple of months. So, I was trying to see a complete unboxing video to see "how" the bay was openend, without just pushing random things around the bay, and unpacking areas which wouldn't be used for a while..
Can Port 8 be used for WAN port? does it support redundant WAN?
It does
@@SpaceRexWill I assume yes for my first question?
It's yes to both!
@@SpaceRexWill ty good sir
Is this still English?