I came across your channel relatively recently after one of your videos for Gamers Nexus, and I'm glad I did. It's good stuff, and also really helpful. Btw, was glad to hear the XFX (probably the GTR?) 480 is so good. It's the one I've been thinking I'd probably get if I buy a 480.
Stumble upon your video while researching for reviews on this very card. Thank you for this, as i also have looked at JayzTwoCents mentioning that this card got crazy hot. So i am might be passing on this, so my choice would left with the Sapphire Nitro and the new Asus DUAL version of the RX 480 not the Strix. This is due to the high price of the Strix in my country's currency rate. i hope you'll keep up the good work, i've subbed and thumbs up!
You're damn right saying "This is, sort of, where the bad stuff starts". I'm sitting in front of my Gigabyte RX 580 and measuring bad mosfets and a blown fuse right now😐
Anyone got the datasheet or part # for the reference VRM FET's? edit; Found out the high side FET in the reference card is MDU1514 and the low side switch is MDU1511. While the MDU1514 has 10A more continous drain current at 100oC than AON6414A (which gigabyte is using), the Gigabyte's part of choice has much better pulsed drain current handling at 140A vs 100A. With the better pulse current rating, the gigabytes part of choise could actually be BETTER. If we drop the supply voltage 12V to 1V, the high side fet obviously bears the full grunt of the load current, but is turned on only roughly 1 / 12 of the time. The low side FET's take the bigger part of the load, as they are on for the remainder of this duration.. and gigabyte had doubled them to 2 per phase. The part gigabyte is using has higher RDS on with the same gate voltage, so the FETs gigabyte is using will heat up more.
The thing is that the pulsed ratings usually assumes a starting Tj of 25C. There is no way that the FET will have a Tj of 25C in a VRM. They will be running between 70-100C case temperature(which is typically a few C lower than Tj). Also as you raise core voltage you keep increasing the on time period and get slowly closer and closer to full continuous operation. I will admit that continuous ratings are a little low compared to what you would be able to get away with under normal operating conditions however pulsed ratings are way too high. As for the low side handling the larger load. This is true and in VRMs where the low and high side are identical the low side will die first. However when the low side is significantly more powerful than the high side the high side is basically always the first to die. For example the R9 290X which has an IRF6894 for the low side and an IRF6811 high side will burn out the high side not the low side. Other than that TiN who's an engineer at EVGA also goes by high side continuous ratings when determining VRM quality. So I'll stick to his way of doing things. On a side note the pulsed ratings on the MDU1514 seem to be a test equipment limit because the MDU 1517 which can do 100A continous at 25C case temp also has a pulsed rating of 100A. So I think magna doesn't do test for more than 100A. So the MDU1514 is very likely to have a pulsed rating above 100A it just hasn't been tested. Thanks for bringing this up though. It's nice to see that people don't just mindless accept everything I say. : )
***** That would be interesting as well. Since XFX and Sapphire work very closely with AMD and only AMD they tend to have some of the best cards just like EVGA has some of the best Nvidia cards (not to mention all three companies have amazing customer support).
Hey dude, I really enjoy your PCB Breakdown series and I'd like your opinion: I'm about to buy an RX470 and the Gigabyte G1 version is the one who fits the best with my PC aesthetics and color scheme but i can't find either a review or benchmarks of the Gigabyte G1 RX470, only the RX480 G1 (which I know it kinda sucks both as PCB and as thermals). My question is, does the Gigabyte G1 RX470 have the same PCB design as this one and how does the cooler handle the thermals (in theory it should be both quieter and cooler than the RX480) ? I would use the card for gaming and keep it on air with the Gigabyte cooler, but I'd like to keep a light overclock (atleast 7Ghz memory and +50mhz on core) without the card heating up or getting loud since I want a silent PC. Thanks in advance for any reply, - JackaL
Yes I heard of the throttling, but that's caused by the default fan curve of the card (which is targeting silence rather than cooling), with a custom fan curve it should be fine. RX 470 is a great card but the aftermarket models are so f*cked up...
XG RX480 has a much better VRM. New generation G1 cards are what used to be regular Ultra durable cards, but designed for "cost down" as all Taiwanese vendors are doing. Definitely a waste of time and money. XG model will come out in a month or so but overpriced. AMD's 9GHz limit is in the BIOS as well. Can't change it either because they won't approve and send security key back to you for the bios if you go over spec. :/ Epic video as usual dude, keep em coming.
thank you awesome man. I knew, I believed Gigabyte is bad. My First Motherboard was a Gigabyte one and Repair man said it's mosfet blows after repairing another mosfet blows. I repaired that Motherboard twice and it blows again i didn't overclock or anything with that motherboard it was 2004 i was only 11. after that i just throw that away and bought a Asus Motherboard and I used that Asus Motherboard for 6 years and then sold that but it never blows.
keep it going, ill refer to your videos being getting another Gigabyte GPU. Gigabyte is king along with ASUS in nvidia, but support for fixes (BIOS) seems like the only OEM exists vs other RX 480 OEMs
Could you possibly PLEASE do a PCB analysis on the Gigabyte G1 Gaming GTX 980 Ti? I will name my first born son after you if you do! Also, I have always wanted to know; IS there any MEANINGFUL difference between brands and models of chokes? Or do they all perform the desired task, and possess similar longevity as one another? I tried looking up both a Gigabyte G1 Gaming GTX 980 Ti PCB layout (with marks and annotations like what you do on screen in these videos) but none exist, and I have TRIED to see what the specs on different chokes were, and if they even make a difference. But there seems to be very little ado about chokes... Anyway thank you BuildZoid! I LOVE the in depth look at the PCB level of Graphics cards! Seeing as I already know the GPU specs like the back of my hand, learning what the PCB contains and is specified for, is what makes ALL the difference once one has decided which GPU they want. That, and my G1 Gaming GTX 980 TI is the first GPU I have owned that I have EVER even CONSIDERED going SLI with, I would LOVE to know exactly what all the PCB specs are!
Chokes actually play a pretty important role. However getting datasheets for them is borderline impossible and generally they don't vary in cost much. Generally chokes are chosen appropriately for the rest of the VRM.
They should have put three fans , but probably would not justify the cost. We can check that when looking into the PCB itself, hope that they do not catch fire as some gtx 1070.
No but you just might have a top 1% card and I want it. You can always just post a screenshot of windowed Unigine Heaven with GPUz's monitoring tab open next to it.
Ok I really jumped the gun there I ended up stable at 1415 with a 25Mv overvolt (atleast at 3 hours bf4 and a bit of fallout4). But the crashes are strange at least for what I'm used to. I'm used to (with my previous cards) that a gpu crash just crashes the driver and bla bla bla but if I crash on this card I get a full system crash, Is that normal? (Also I dont get any artifacts it just runs or crashes)
So it's basically trash :/ I'll send you the picture of my RX 480 Red Devil soon. Where do you prefer I send it? Or have you already got a picture of it?
Gigabyte got an rx 580 8gb into my hands for $314 canadian which was nearly $50 less than any other model with the nearest being the MSI if I recall correctly.. If all the cards were the same price then no, I wouldnt buy it. But when they can give you a card that does 1080 @ ultra or even 1440 gaming easy for way less than anyone else, I don't think that's such a terrible idea. I've been attempting to do a custom loop on it, and having some issues with vrm cooling on the RX 580 8GB Gaming , is it possible to get a slight update even via message on if there is any differences between the 480 here and mine? It also has 3 rows of vrms, but perhaps they changed them? I can OC it to 1411mhz on the core with little to no voltage, but that seems to be the limit so perhaps this is the result of what you're talking about here, but it's still matches the highest (base over-)clock of the best rx 580 from what I saw at the time, which I believe was by XFX.
Hey, it'd be quite nice 2 see some more PCB vids, i would suggest the 480 by XFX.. and by some really famous 1080/1070s, like the Gainward Phoenix or related..
I plan to do all the 480s pretty soon. The thing about the 10 series GPUs is that they don't really scale with volts so the PCBs really aren't that important
thanks for the 480s! And.. well, in germany where i'm from, the most reccomended cards are the Palit GameRock or Jetstream and Gainward Phoenix, but i don't know if they are really that good on the PCB-Side or just founders with better cooling.
@Actually Hardcore Overcloking so if G1 is bad as for rx480 does that necessarily mean the same for the other chipsets too? both nvidia & amd 1xxx and 4xx
For daily use the RX 480 G1 is fine. Just don't try to shove more than 1.3V through the core. It should also be one of the more efficient RX 480s. The Nvidia G1 line is fine. It's just the RX 480 and 470 that kinda suck.
Depends on the card. The thing about the AUX voltage is that it's been available since the R9 290X and it really depends on a GPU to GPU basis if it helps with mem overclocking. So try push it up a little or down a little if you can't get some mem clock stable. It might help but again it might not.
Depends on the card. The thing about the AUX voltage is that it's been available since the R9 290X and it really depends on a GPU to GPU basis if it helps with mem overclocking. So try push it up a little or down a little if you can't get some mem clock stable. It might help but again it might not.
so basically what you're saying this card will be just fine for me as i intend to just undervolt it, and it is selling for less than reference over here... Should be quieter too than ref :D
I have a gigabyte RX460 4g .I get Tri angle shape artifact at stock 1212 gzh .When I use MSI after burner to lower to 1050 gzh it play fine with World of Warplanes.What cause it?
K ratings on caps really don't matter. Even 2.5K will last 3-4 years of gaming usage. Stupid high K ratings on caps are marketing stunt. Most GPUs just use Nichicons(I haven't seen any other brand on any GPUs in a while).
ASUS uses Apaq(a Taiwanese brand) capacitors on some of their videocards and motherboards. (Gigabyte uses them on some of their motherboards,too.) For example,the caps besides to GPU vcore chokes on the RX480 Strix,they even used them in the GTX980Ti Matrix as well. Apaq capacitors are very easy to distinguish from their logos.
hello a I'm learning to fix my old gpu and i have capacitor short i remove it but don't know what its capacitor model this one its the bottom left top to pci at first the blue one its big one this is same bord but the quality its not perfect to see it
Actually Hardcore Overclocking this is weird cause making a new design cost them a lot. Do these VRM degrade a lot with temperature? Maybe it's running cooler.
Not really. When You are about to design a new PCB and whole produce line for 1000 cards - it is a lot of money and not profitable, but when you are about to sell milion cards around the globe - saving few dolars on each GPU makes a count.
the pulse rating is kinda irrelevant for VRM applications. However 4 30A phases for a 270 is fine. Those cards run relatively high voltage(1.2V and up) also the RAM is going to be using up some of that power so it's not all for the GPU core. So really it's more like 150W - 20W / 1.2 that works out to like 100A on stock clocks and the continous rating is overkill. It's great for figuring what FET is better not so great when you want to know what the VRM can't survive because it's always way too low.
Hey, I have this card and have installed an all-in-one watercooling solution from id-cooling that doesn't cover the VRM area. I have installed a slim 92 mm fan that blows at full speed directly on them, no copper/aluminum heatsinks mounted directly. It gets pretty hot on touch when gaming, but since I can't measure the temps on them my question is... it is safe on the long term? I could stick the included heatsinks with special thermal adhesive but i still wan't to be able to mount the stock cooling solution at some point in the future.
You should *really*put on those heatsinks for the VRMs/heatsinks, they'll get very hot even with the fan blowing on it. For now it shouldn't get *too* hot but you should install the heatsinks that came with the AIO cooler.
The 580 version (Rev 1.0) of this uses a different high side: www.aosmd.com/res/data_sheets/AON6594.pdf I picked this card up very cheap, emailed you pictures [ imgur.com/a/DvthwXb ] It looks like another downgrade to the high side
Bro beans you do great work.. Thanks for your detailed explanation of things. Helps people out alot.
My high side mosfet blew up!!! after 3 days of use and a 100mhz overclock to the core on the first game i played. GIgabyte rx 580 8gb
I came across your channel relatively recently after one of your videos for Gamers Nexus, and I'm glad I did. It's good stuff, and also really helpful.
Btw, was glad to hear the XFX (probably the GTR?) 480 is so good. It's the one I've been thinking I'd probably get if I buy a 480.
Stumble upon your video while researching for reviews on this very card. Thank you for this, as i also have looked at JayzTwoCents mentioning that this card got crazy hot. So i am might be passing on this, so my choice would left with the Sapphire Nitro and the new Asus DUAL version of the RX 480 not the Strix. This is due to the high price of the Strix in my country's currency rate. i hope you'll keep up the good work, i've subbed and thumbs up!
You're damn right saying "This is, sort of, where the bad stuff starts". I'm sitting in front of my Gigabyte RX 580 and measuring bad mosfets and a blown fuse right now😐
Nice video...the g1 gaming out from my wishlist..its good to know the PCB build before consider buy.
Anyone got the datasheet or part # for the reference VRM FET's?
edit; Found out the high side FET in the reference card is MDU1514 and the low side switch is MDU1511.
While the MDU1514 has 10A more continous drain current at 100oC than AON6414A (which gigabyte is using), the Gigabyte's part of choice has much better pulsed drain current handling at 140A vs 100A. With the better pulse current rating, the gigabytes part of choise could actually be BETTER.
If we drop the supply voltage 12V to 1V, the high side fet obviously bears the full grunt of the load current, but is turned on only roughly 1 / 12 of the time. The low side FET's take the bigger part of the load, as they are on for the remainder of this duration.. and gigabyte had doubled them to 2 per phase.
The part gigabyte is using has higher RDS on with the same gate voltage, so the FETs gigabyte is using will heat up more.
The thing is that the pulsed ratings usually assumes a starting Tj of 25C. There is no way that the FET will have a Tj of 25C in a VRM. They will be running between 70-100C case temperature(which is typically a few C lower than Tj). Also as you raise core voltage you keep increasing the on time period and get slowly closer and closer to full continuous operation. I will admit that continuous ratings are a little low compared to what you would be able to get away with under normal operating conditions however pulsed ratings are way too high.
As for the low side handling the larger load. This is true and in VRMs where the low and high side are identical the low side will die first. However when the low side is significantly more powerful than the high side the high side is basically always the first to die. For example the R9 290X which has an IRF6894 for the low side and an IRF6811 high side will burn out the high side not the low side.
Other than that TiN who's an engineer at EVGA also goes by high side continuous ratings when determining VRM quality. So I'll stick to his way of doing things.
On a side note the pulsed ratings on the MDU1514 seem to be a test equipment limit because the MDU 1517 which can do 100A continous at 25C case temp also has a pulsed rating of 100A. So I think magna doesn't do test for more than 100A. So the MDU1514 is very likely to have a pulsed rating above 100A it just hasn't been tested.
Thanks for bringing this up though. It's nice to see that people don't just mindless accept everything I say. : )
Would you consider making a video of an overview (like this) of the Sapphire Nitro RX 480 PCB?
on it's way
+Actually Hardcore Overclocking How about XFX RX 480 8 GB GTR? XD
Actually Hardcore Overclocking Awesome! I can't wait!
***** That would be interesting as well. Since XFX and Sapphire work very closely with AMD and only AMD they tend to have some of the best cards just like EVGA has some of the best Nvidia cards (not to mention all three companies have amazing customer support).
Hey dude, I really enjoy your PCB Breakdown series and I'd like your opinion: I'm about to buy an RX470 and the Gigabyte G1 version is the one who fits the best with my PC aesthetics and color scheme but i can't find either a review or benchmarks of the Gigabyte G1 RX470, only the RX480 G1 (which I know it kinda sucks both as PCB and as thermals). My question is, does the Gigabyte G1 RX470 have the same PCB design as this one and how does the cooler handle the thermals (in theory it should be both quieter and cooler than the RX480) ?
I would use the card for gaming and keep it on air with the Gigabyte cooler, but I'd like to keep a light overclock (atleast 7Ghz memory and +50mhz on core) without the card heating up or getting loud since I want a silent PC.
Thanks in advance for any reply,
- JackaL
TheWarTube The 470 from gigabyte is equally bad. Lots of reviews out now. It goes to 80C under load.
Thanks dude, I figured it out on my own too. Right now I'm more oriented towards the ASUS Strix RX470, which should be both quieter and less hot (
The Asus 470 throttles performance really bad to keep it under 65C. I've looked at every 470 and each seems to have an issue one way or another.
Yes I heard of the throttling, but that's caused by the default fan curve of the card (which is targeting silence rather than cooling), with a custom fan curve it should be fine.
RX 470 is a great card but the aftermarket models are so f*cked up...
I also don't like the fact that the Asus 470 has a 6 pin connector when it draws almost the same amount as the RX 480.
XG RX480 has a much better VRM. New generation G1 cards are what used to be regular Ultra durable cards, but designed for "cost down" as all Taiwanese vendors are doing. Definitely a waste of time and money. XG model will come out in a month or so but overpriced.
AMD's 9GHz limit is in the BIOS as well. Can't change it either because they won't approve and send security key back to you for the bios if you go over spec. :/
Epic video as usual dude, keep em coming.
what's xg?
Presumably Xtreme Gaming.
ivan134 Yes Xtreme Gaming version
is it safe to assume that the 470s also have shitty mosfets? same with the powercolor 470? will be shit compared to the others?
hey buildzoid, you are awesome man ;-)
Red Devil when? I can't even find any PCB pictures of it.
I think Gigabyte RX580 8Gb has the same mosfet, so there are AON6508 and AON6594
thank you awesome man. I knew, I believed Gigabyte is bad. My First Motherboard was a Gigabyte one and Repair man said it's mosfet blows after repairing another mosfet blows. I repaired that Motherboard twice and it blows again i didn't overclock or anything with that motherboard it was 2004 i was only 11. after that i just throw that away and bought a Asus Motherboard and I used that Asus Motherboard for 6 years and then sold that but it never blows.
my old gpu from gigibite crashed aswell so newer them again:P
No brand is perfect, even the most reliable can come faulty. My current mobo is a gigabyte with more of 7 years and it's still running fine.
I wonder if Gigabyte will release a V.2 version of that board with better VRMs?
keep it going, ill refer to your videos being getting another Gigabyte GPU. Gigabyte is king along with ASUS in nvidia, but support for fixes (BIOS) seems like the only OEM exists vs other RX 480 OEMs
any chance of a Xtreme Gaming 1080 Waterforce pcb review? suddenly rethinking my decision to buy one after seeing this.
First!
Could you possibly PLEASE do a PCB analysis on the Gigabyte G1 Gaming GTX 980 Ti? I will name my first born son after you if you do!
Also, I have always wanted to know; IS there any MEANINGFUL difference between brands and models of chokes? Or do they all perform the desired task, and possess similar longevity as one another?
I tried looking up both a Gigabyte G1 Gaming GTX 980 Ti PCB layout (with marks and annotations like what you do on screen in these videos) but none exist, and I have TRIED to see what the specs on different chokes were, and if they even make a difference. But there seems to be very little ado about chokes...
Anyway thank you BuildZoid! I LOVE the in depth look at the PCB level of Graphics cards! Seeing as I already know the GPU specs like the back of my hand, learning what the PCB contains and is specified for, is what makes ALL the difference once one has decided which GPU they want.
That, and my G1 Gaming GTX 980 TI is the first GPU I have owned that I have EVER even CONSIDERED going SLI with, I would LOVE to know exactly what all the PCB specs are!
Chokes actually play a pretty important role. However getting datasheets for them is borderline impossible and generally they don't vary in cost much. Generally chokes are chosen appropriately for the rest of the VRM.
They should have put three fans , but probably would not justify the cost. We can check that when looking into the PCB itself, hope that they do not catch fire as some gtx 1070.
Took me five minutes of video to subscribe
wow really nice! really different content
Would you call me a liar if I told you my rx 480 sapphire nitro clocks to 1435 on air without overvolting?
No but you just might have a top 1% card and I want it. You can always just post a screenshot of windowed Unigine Heaven with GPUz's monitoring tab open next to it.
Actually Hardcore Overclocking
I just crashed after an hour of bf4 so I actually lied, sorry.
Ok I really jumped the gun there I ended up stable at 1415 with a 25Mv overvolt (atleast at 3 hours bf4 and a bit of fallout4). But the crashes are strange at least for what I'm used to. I'm used to (with my previous cards) that a gpu crash just crashes the driver and bla bla bla but if I crash on this card I get a full system crash, Is that normal? (Also I dont get any artifacts it just runs or crashes)
Can you do one for sapphire nitro?
So it's basically trash :/ I'll send you the picture of my RX 480 Red Devil soon. Where do you prefer I send it? Or have you already got a picture of it?
Yeah just send me message over youtube. Get me close ups of all the VRMs you should be able to see those without my help at this point.
Actually Hardcore Overclocking Alright I'll send it right now
Actually Hardcore Overclocking Wait I don't see an attach photo button
you'll need to some kind of image host like imgur
Actually Hardcore Overclocking O I see ok hold on a sec
Gigabyte got an rx 580 8gb into my hands for $314 canadian which was nearly $50 less than any other model with the nearest being the MSI if I recall correctly.. If all the cards were the same price then no, I wouldnt buy it. But when they can give you a card that does 1080 @ ultra or even 1440 gaming easy for way less than anyone else, I don't think that's such a terrible idea.
I've been attempting to do a custom loop on it, and having some issues with vrm cooling on the RX 580 8GB Gaming , is it possible to get a slight update even via message on if there is any differences between the 480 here and mine? It also has 3 rows of vrms, but perhaps they changed them? I can OC it to 1411mhz on the core with little to no voltage, but that seems to be the limit so perhaps this is the result of what you're talking about here, but it's still matches the highest (base over-)clock of the best rx 580 from what I saw at the time, which I believe was by XFX.
Hey, it'd be quite nice 2 see some more PCB vids, i would suggest the 480 by XFX.. and by some really famous 1080/1070s, like the Gainward Phoenix or related..
I plan to do all the 480s pretty soon. The thing about the 10 series GPUs is that they don't really scale with volts so the PCBs really aren't that important
thanks for the 480s! And.. well, in germany where i'm from, the most reccomended cards are the Palit GameRock or Jetstream and Gainward Phoenix, but i don't know if they are really that good on the PCB-Side or just founders with better cooling.
@Actually Hardcore Overcloking so if G1 is bad as for rx480 does that necessarily mean the same for the other chipsets too? both nvidia & amd 1xxx and 4xx
For daily use the RX 480 G1 is fine. Just don't try to shove more than 1.3V through the core. It should also be one of the more efficient RX 480s.
The Nvidia G1 line is fine. It's just the RX 480 and 470 that kinda suck.
Thanks!!!
Btw, it seems the latest 16.9.1 drivers allow bios modding without external signature.
yep I'm aware of that. If only my RX 480 actually worked then I could work on making some BIOSs.
I would like more technical details.
Don't you have a rx 480 sapphire pcb breakdown?
When a memory overclock fails on the 480 is it because of the GPU Memory Controller or Memory chips?
Depends on the card. The thing about the AUX voltage is that it's been available since the R9 290X and it really depends on a GPU to GPU basis if it helps with mem overclocking. So try push it up a little or down a little if you can't get some mem clock stable. It might help but again it might not.
Depends on the card. The thing about the AUX voltage is that it's been available since the R9 290X and it really depends on a GPU to GPU basis if it helps with mem overclocking. So try push it up a little or down a little if you can't get some mem clock stable. It might help but again it might not.
so basically what you're saying this card will be just fine for me as i intend to just undervolt it, and it is selling for less than reference over here... Should be quieter too than ref :D
yep it'll be fine for that
So which one is VRM Temp 1 and VRM Temp 2??
I have a gigabyte RX460 4g .I get Tri angle shape artifact at stock 1212 gzh .When I use MSI after burner to lower to 1050 gzh it play fine with World of Warplanes.What cause it?
Can you do my Sapphire R9 280x Tri-X TOXIC if I send it to you?
Are you going to do one for the MSI Gaming X 4GB?
I wish I could but can't get a datasheet for the card's components
K ratings on caps really don't matter. Even 2.5K will last 3-4 years of gaming usage. Stupid high K ratings on caps are marketing stunt. Most GPUs just use Nichicons(I haven't seen any other brand on any GPUs in a while).
ASUS uses Apaq(a Taiwanese brand) capacitors on some of their videocards and motherboards. (Gigabyte uses them on some of their motherboards,too.)
For example,the caps besides to GPU vcore chokes on the RX480 Strix,they even used them in the GTX980Ti Matrix as well. Apaq capacitors are very easy to distinguish from their logos.
hello a I'm learning to fix my old gpu and i have capacitor short i remove it but don't know what its capacitor model this one its the bottom left top to pci at first the blue one its big one this is same bord but the quality its not perfect to see it
please test RX580 aorus too (XTR and non XTR)
Is it really identical I don’t know if I should get a xtx one over a gts
jayztwocent watched your and he's about to about roast gigabyte XD
Unfortunately I have the card! If I am not overclocking it, will it gets the work done??
yes...
this card have a PCB with more vrm chips?
Please make a review of the Nitro+ rx 480
what's a good rx480?
gaming x, strix and gtr seem to be the safest. Though I don't know anything about their pcb breakdowns.
70174A XFX RX 480 followed by the MSI RX 480
Could you do a breakdown of the gigabyte 1060?
Yea any change for the g1 gaming 1060? I would like that, thanks.
Ben fakirim .. Bana ücretsiz şeyler verecek?
wish gigabyte would see this
Peltier OC would be cool..
People do LN2 cooling on mid-range cards?
I like running LN2 on everything.
*Apply LN2 to sick burn*
nice vid
So is this one or the red devil weaker?
oh nvm didn't finish watching you said it was worse than the devil at 13minute ish
devil is weaker
Why gigabyte did that? Price? Efficiency?
they didn't really get much in terms of efficiency so I'm going to say cost savings were the main motivator.
Actually Hardcore Overclocking
this is weird cause making a new design cost them a lot.
Do these VRM degrade a lot with temperature? Maybe it's running cooler.
they do 53A at best. So at 80C I'd expect them to do around 40A
Actually Hardcore Overclocking
Maybe they just wanted a cheap solution to the PCI-e problem that was not quick fixed yet when they designed the card.
Not really. When You are about to design a new PCB and whole produce line for 1000 cards - it is a lot of money and not profitable, but when you are about to sell milion cards around the globe - saving few dolars on each GPU makes a count.
is safe to have 4 phases (30a at 100c/48a 25c) 4925 on an r9 270 150w tdp
in pulse they give 210a
the pulse rating is kinda irrelevant for VRM applications. However 4 30A phases for a 270 is fine. Those cards run relatively high voltage(1.2V and up) also the RAM is going to be using up some of that power so it's not all for the GPU core. So really it's more like 150W - 20W / 1.2 that works out to like 100A on stock clocks and the continous rating is overkill. It's great for figuring what FET is better not so great when you want to know what the VRM can't survive because it's always way too low.
Thanks, mine is at 1.13 v at 955 and 1150 at 1.16v is a powercolor turboduo so the cooler blows air just on top of the vrms
Good info and interesting video, but it needs to be more concise. All of the info could easily fit into half the time or less.
Hey, I have this card and have installed an all-in-one watercooling solution from id-cooling that doesn't cover the VRM area. I have installed a slim 92 mm fan that blows at full speed directly on them, no copper/aluminum heatsinks mounted directly. It gets pretty hot on touch when gaming, but since I can't measure the temps on them my question is... it is safe on the long term? I could stick the included heatsinks with special thermal adhesive but i still wan't to be able to mount the stock cooling solution at some point in the future.
You should *really*put on those heatsinks for the VRMs/heatsinks, they'll get very hot even with the fan blowing on it. For now it shouldn't get *too* hot but you should install the heatsinks that came with the AIO cooler.
awesome..!
Thank you. I almost bought that.
Stick with Asus and MSI with the 400 series
Nah going with the 1060. Asus is to pricy And Msi aint any better than Gigabyte
ln2?
Yes LN2: th-cam.com/video/9CedetT4baU/w-d-xo.html
oh liquid nitrogen lol silly me thanks mate
The 580 version (Rev 1.0) of this uses a different high side: www.aosmd.com/res/data_sheets/AON6594.pdf
I picked this card up very cheap, emailed you pictures [ imgur.com/a/DvthwXb ]
It looks like another downgrade to the high side
i disliked the video because nvidia is the beter graphic maker and you shouldnt support amd AT ALL. praise hoang