Make Your Low-Cost IBANEZ Play Like A PRESTIGE! - 12 Minute Mod Tutorial
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- Hardware:
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Wiring:
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"super glue gives a brighter sound than wood glue" lmao
😂The color of the paint finish makes a lot of difference to your tone as well. I like cooler colors .. blues and purples to get a more subtle mellow sound. 😁
I think my favorite thing about this video is the fact that it reminds me of how it looks when I’m working on guitars. Nothing fancy, just work.
I feel you! I sure do love to tinker!
it aint much but its honest work
Just love the mouthful of letters and numbers Ibanez uses for model n item number
I work in the senses and perception lab at York University. My thesis involved evaluating if musicians could tell the difference in tone with electric guitars. We had 6 groups which consisted of
Musicians who listened to back-back live playing of samples with 3 different electric guitars without visual cues
Musicians who listened to recorded samples if the same instruments
Non-musicians who did both of the same
And of these three groups 1/3 were randomly assigned to a condition where there was no difference between the samples (the same guitar was played 3 times for them )
There was no correlation between body wood and detectable tonality. We also had frequency spectrum analysis done on the recordings and they were more dissimilar between recordings of the same guitar (sonically) than varied due to wood. If the guitars had the same pups and were played the same and it was set up well there was no reliably discernable difference.
That being said people in our experienced musician group could identify the guitar with the tremolo installed about 60% of the time (the tremolo wasn't being used while playing)
Oh man I'd love for you to run this experiment with audiophiles. Those fanatic music snobs that spend 100 times more to achieve that last 3% quality and look down their noses at brand X because the doorknobs at the factory that makes their packaging their products are sold in have .003% more zinc and weren't built by virgin elves using magic spider webs and captured baby giggles. And because of this their expertly trained ears can totally tell the difference produced by that inferior brand X that sells for less than the ones they get.
I thought there was something to it all. Got a DAC and fancy amp and expensive headphones. It works but I can't tell 99.9999% of the time and none of the time if I'm not looking for it. Now I have just a headphone amp and reasonably expensive headphones, sounds just as good to me.
very interesting research, good job on that.
and that last sentence is pretty amazing
@@jros4057 to be honest it would be interesting to work with audio professionals. Our 'musicians' were self identified. So there was a big issue with variance there (the distribution for the musicians was kinda inconsistent, and had a soft double peak) . The research could definitely be improved to see how MUCH difference there is and if someone CAN tell the difference. Perhaps much more experienced musicians would do better, but the people on our list who had 5-10 years of experience didn't do significantly better than musicians of 1-2 years or any other group.
I don't doubt someone could tell there's a difference, but reliably telling which is which or what changes were made we concluded is basically impossible for an average person, or an average musician.
when it comes to a solid body electric guitar there's no such thing as tone woods. Tone woods make a huge difference in acoustic instruments though and that's why they were called tone woods. Guitar manufacturers have used the term "Tone Woods" for a marketing strategy for years. So many people hear with their eyes. I can't even begin to tell you all the people who have stated "There's just something special about the sound of a "Les Paul" guitar."
But they wouldn't be able to tell the difference in a blind test if those pups, and electronics' were wired to a shovel.
The pups are the heart of every electric guitar. but as the late great Mark Twain once stated "It's easier for someone to believe a lie than it is for that same person to believe that they've been lied to."
Thanks for sharing your test results with us. I do believe that the guy in this video was a lot happier with his guitar after his mods. If not for nothing more than just the sustain and holding tune better. Not to mention how much prettier it looks with the mods. Again, thanks for sharing your study results. Peace.. Joe
Dude i miss hearing you play these heavy riffs. And this video was just so satisfying to watch!
Andrew Brisch Dude thank you so much! Youll be hearing some heavier music coming soon bro! Keep an eye out! 👀
Great video man! I see folks wanting the A/B comparison... eh, next time. Everything upgraded here is part of what makes a premium instrument. You can be certain that tone, excessive noise and tuning stability have been addressed in very noticeable ways. Subbed.
Sorry for the late response, appreciate your comments and sub! 🙏🏽
I never realized how important the nut was to the overall tonality. You learn something new everyday!
Its so crucial, its definitely something that gets overlooked on budget guitars.
Hey man love the vid! Starting my own rebuild on an rg 2570e that I rescued from a pawn shop years ago. Will definitely be coming back to this for part links and wiring tips. The grounded copper tape was a neat touch. Will have to explore that myself! Cheers from Canada!
I appreciate you checking out the video glad it was helpful for you Tyler! 💪🏽
thank you for this video, i'm wanting to do a lot of these same upgrades to my rg standard. i'm still new to a lot of guitar maintenance and general terminology but seeing you do everything with explanations is super helpful and makes me feel like i could do it too.
same
Amazing video Ivan! Great job!
loved the tutorial and playing also loved the instrumental version of the way the news goes
Thank you! 🙏🏽
Loved all the music choices in this video lol. So good.
Much appreciated!
Nice.. awesome little brother.. I've found I'm going back to original tuning, standard 22 but extra jumbo fretted, even 24 one a tight sound is doing it for me...
Before and after would be great. Aluminum shields also.
Man that guitar is badass lookin to began with!! It’s a work of art now!! But that’s what I love doing, is buying some low cost guitars and molding them into something that sounds like a $3000 guitar!
I just love to tinker and thanks man I appreciate you!
Those are some nasty riffs. Love it! 🤘
My man used Diamond Eyes by Deftones in the video! MAD respect!!!
LOST IN THE STATIC!!!
I love the deftones instrumentals you added
Awesome video man. Very well done and informative.
I appreciate it Joe!
This dude is talking about glue tone, I can't be the only one who find this crazy right?
But cool video anyway
i'm literally in shock about this stupid shit about glue tone lmao
😂😂
Ahm, not crazy.
Not when you consider how thick, soft, and rubbery wood glue such as PVA, or Aliphatic Resin Luthiers Glues are.
That thick rubbery layer between the new Nut & Fretboard at the Headstock WILL slightly reduce the resonance transference between the surfaces.
That is WHY we use a thin hard-setting Glue such as Thin CA for Fretwork & glueing the Nut. 😘
Not crazy. It does affect tone while high gain amplified
my guitar sounded like that out of the box
just kidding
well done!
PS
I play Ibanez RG370DX 12 years old machine, all original stock, and it plays really well, sounds great too
Dude great video. Been trying to find what pick ups to put in my rg565.
Great video. Love ibbys and after the burial !!!
I appreciate you Beau! Thank you!
Awesome video man!! 🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟
What you shoulda done with the electronics is install a mad hatter terminator setup
Trust me bro you'd love the change, Steve Vai uses that shit with his EVO.
You honestly know how to break it down and show...you can mod a guitar and it sound good without having to break the bank. Now I want to build a 7string!!
I built a "Frankenstein" Ibanez RG, totally different neck and body, parts from several other Ibanez guitars, I even made a pickup mounting ring out of scrap copper at my job, it's definitely one of a kind, and it was a really fun and rewarding experience. I highly recommend building a guitar if you've ever wanted to. 👍
@@scramblesthedeathdealerguitar of theseus lol
@@jonathanberry1420 That pretty much nails this guitar, named her "Frankie," should have named the guitar Theseus 😂
Will be doing a similar update to my rg7421 great video man super helpful
Glad it helped man! 👌🏽
Very nice work. I'm surprised you didn't swap pickups out also or just their magnets.
A comparison of the before vs after would be so helpful
nice breakdown at the end
Thanks man!
Awesome! And Blood Eagle is my favorite Periphery jam. This axe is now a true djentleman.
Looks like you already had conductive paint in the electronics and pickup cavities so the copper foil is a bit redundant. Copper foil does look cool though. Great video man.
Thanks man appreciate it!
Do you know if this bridge will fit on an Ibanez GRG7221 with the stock F107 bridge?
Awesome !!! the electronics conections, thats the only thing that scares me a lot for not doing this kind of improvements 🙃
Practice wiring on something not important soldering properly is important
Any Deftones song playing in the background = me liking and subscribing
what are you putting on the volume pot before soldering the ground on it at 8:00 ?
great video! Didn't know there were direct replacement bridges for these ibanez bridges. so much easier without filling and drilling holes in your guitar...
Thanks Chris, It is flux paste..makes a more solid connection to the metal surfaces. You can do without but it make the joints and contacts more solid and secure!
What nut should i buy to GIO DX121. Size or can you link one
have you ever done this in any other 7 string that does not have a fixed bridge? A tremolo bridge lika a Gotoh or OFR?
Awesome video! I've been wanting to try out doing my own mods soon. Maybe my next buy will be an ibanez rg7421pb to try and beef up
Michael Tallman That would be an awesome project man!
Can we hear the guitar isolated aka not in a mix?
Wasn't there already shielding paint in the electronics cavity, tho?
you people are insane. Super glue on the nut makes the guitar brighter? If you say so.
Who else unconsciously started singing along with the periphery instrumental
wake uuuppppp as I stumble into a blinding light
Yep
i was about to sing at the deftones parts
I 100000% did while at work lmaoo
Unconsciously…
Nice job! 👍
Periphery makes me want to fire up Neural DSP's Soldano SLO-100, plug my baritone RG in and jam for the rest of the day.
Thanks for the great video :) I'll apply all these changes upgrading my Ibanez RGA42FM.
I was thinking about adding a new pair of pick ups as well though. What are your thoughts on that?
Absolutely I have bareknuckles on mine, any pickup will probably beat the stock ones!
How much did you spend for all the upgrade parts?
I want to do a project Ibanez s-521 red , changed with graph tech nut and stainless steel fret and with emg 81x 85x with the foiling tape inside so there is no 60 secs hum.What do you think ?
Do it up man! love me some s series guitars 👌🏽
I have the same model but 6 string version. Best thing I did was scallop the fretboard.
Awesome video! Been thinking of making some mods to my gio ibanez!!
Awesome man! Make sure your parts can fit on your gio 👌🏽
What are these pickups ?
WHATS THE SONG PLAYING AT THE 8 MINUTE MARK
What are your thoughts re, using conductive paint in place of the conductive tape?
Is it as good?
Not as good?
Neither here, nor there?
Thanks.
Hello Narayana, as far as conductive paint I think that it may not be as conductive as solid metal. It is more expensive than tape, and once you apply it, you won’t be able to remove it so i think tape works best for me in my opinion!
Nice video and great song at the end :-)
I want to do the same thing with my RGIR27FE. But I’m confused with the locking tuners. I didn’t want to drilling the head stock and it’s look like that yours have a plate for the 7 tuners… it is custom made?
No plate I just positioned them so they don't look funky and just screw drived it in place, not a practical way of doing it because I didn't have a drill at the time lol
Thanks man, My RGA72QM needs these upgrades.
My pleasure!!
6:20 whats the name of that song?
Great work. Do you think you should make people aware that you’ve lost the standard pickup switching combinations by going with the 3 way switch. To step up in quality from the standard alpha 2502n switch and maintain its switching capabilities you need to go with a vlx91, schaller megaswitch m or a dimarzio super switch (or comparable versions) all of which are pricey. Minor point but hope it’s added to the options people might have.
I was not aware of the other switching you mentioned glad to know thanks! The oak grisby is just my own personal preference I don't expect everyone to follow these instructions to the T. Either way thanks for checking out my video I appreciate it!
Yes you're absolutely right here Simon. I was wondering why he didn't keep the 5 way switch too as it is one of the Premium features and would be possible with an Oak Grigsby 5 way or super switch. I've actually done this myself.
Sweet video
I did this to a rg421exfm a few years ago and at the time I worked at guitar center as a tech and people used to want to play that alllll the time I was like bro $300 Ibanez $100 in parts bam prestige lol
Yessir! Preach! 🙌🏽
what about the body and neck tho? I'm a beginner going to intermediate and was thinking of doing that, buying a cheap RG and upgrading it. I'm not sure if I can justify the cost of prestige, but also the built quality concerns me in the standard range. I'm a bit torn at the moment :/
@@Zara-ix6uk I totally get it, personally I did it so I can have more recording options. I purchased two Ibanez RG 7s both second hand for about 200 a piece, after negotiating it down from the original asking price. I own other higher end guitars like Gibson, fender, even a 90' Ibanez Universe and to tell you the truth I am in love with the guitar I built. Its light, super comfortable to play, and sounds badass with the pickups I installed and new electronics I added to it. Its honestly all about preference. Sure you can spend a fortune on a prestige but after doing mods like these I certainly believe you could go without spending an arm and a leg on one.
@@ivanfiallos-zambrano5911 thank you for the reply! I'll have a look for a second hand one, maybe that's the better option. Plus, it's a nice project and you can totally make it your own.
@@Zara-ix6uk And its super fun to work on, I say go for it! 🤙🏽
That shit sounded dope.
Thank you so much man!
will that bridge work for a regular RG7321? Been thinking of modding mine. I have Duncan Retributions in it and it sounds awesome but I wanna make the guitar look less plain Jane.
I dont think it would, there is an ibby fp version that might work for that guitar
What was in the white tube you put on there before you made the solder joints?
It is flux paste, makes solder joints have a stronger connection.
Question: Why did you use the copper foil? and why did you have to ground it?
The guitar looks amazing after your mods. I just never seen anyone use copper foil before.
To have a shield for EMI to go to ground, less noise especially if you overdrive your amps or sims.
Which profile did uou use on the vst? I have that one too, that's why i am asking.
Not sure off the bat, it was one of the default presets and just adjusted to taste without the overdrive since im running precision drive through the DI
the finish is better than some prestige
Solid video. I want to mod my RG 7421.
Thats awesome man, I also have a 7420 that I modded as well and love it!
Deftones in the background? automatic like
Ha...Meshuggah. Nice.
Blood eagle 👌
Can we change a fixed bridged to tremolo bridge in an electric guitar?
That involves a lot of routing and wood work, a professional should always take a job like that. To be honest, id rather invest in a guitar that already comes with a tremolo cavity as is. With a little research and depending on what type of guitar you have.. there are some bridges that could replace tune o matic into floating trems definitely something to check out!
Do this same mod woth an old 2000/2001 RG7421/7621 wich are made in japan, basically those models are prestiges without the prestige logo and pricetag. I have a RG7420 upgraded with fishman fluence moderns, Original floyd rose and locking tuners and it is a beast!
you didnt have to put shielding tape, there's already conductive paint in there.
How do you adjust action on such fixed bridge?
My luthier adjusted it with small allen screws on each saddle which raises or lowers it
Do you take on projects I got a couple guitars I want souped up pick ups bridge a actual bone nut and everything you did on the video
Sorry for the delay, I don't take projects since have my hands full on production and studio engineering work here in LA.
btw TUSQ nuts are indeed amazing
What about changing frets to steinless steel?
That’s beyond my abilities, I’d leave that to the luthiers if I were opting for stainless steel frets
What set of pickups does your guitar have?
Hey Marcelo, i was lucky to have a Bareknuckle Aftermath already installed with a stock Ibanez neck pickup when I purchased this second hand on Reverb for dirt cheap. I had an extra dimazrio PAF 7 neck from another build laying around and installed it with the BK bridge and they sound killer together!
1:53 He hit the Guitar on its nut. 😂🤣
i want to turn my tremolo ibanez to full hardtail but the grounding is on the claw so i have to somehow direct it at the bridge?
Super late haha my fault but maybe look into a tremol-no to lock in your floating bridge i have one on my other 7 string
@@ivanfiallos-zambrano5911 i eventually bought a hardtail best thing i have done i mostly play it in dropped tunings and kept the one with tremolo in standard
So the hipshot bridge fits perfectly in the spot og the tight end? looking to upgrade like you!
Yes you have to make sure your replacement fits where the old bridge was. Mine is a 7 String Ibby HM Guitar Bridge direct fit from the original one that the guitar came with.
Loved the mention about the wood glue. You're crazy like me...and right. One other thing that changes the tone is the capacitor. I found by trying out a ton, that the paper and oil caps that Bareknuckle makes sound the best for old school riff machines...gibsons, prs, teles. For shred guitars the green ployester 22uF seemed best to my taste.
bro GRG7221QA vs GRG170DX vs GRX20!! which is the best pick for shredding speed and best feel ?
Im not too familiar with those guitars honestly id try them out at a store and make the judgment call on what sounds best for you! For me personally I look for clarity and bite and sustain.
Could I put Seymour Duncan black winters in my ibanez rga42fm?
You got to make sure the string spacing is correct for the guitar other than that i think it will work
@@ivanfiallos-zambrano5911 yeah I put them in like 3 weeks ago. Worst pickups I’ve owned in a while. Way to much treble and not enough bass.
What is the string post length of your hipshot tuners?
Sorry for the late response Raiyan but the post, here's dimensions for the tuners. docs.hipshotproducts.com/6EL0_GRIP-LOCK_CLOSED_DIMENSIONS.pdf
Tysm 💯
The music at 10:43 is incredible, is there an mp3 I can buy?
riff is from Blood Eagle by Periphery!
i liked how he played 2 deftones songs that used 8 strings on a 7 string video lmao
No before and after sound?
what’s the song starting at 1:04
Diamond Eyes by the Deftones
❤️
Please make more videos like this! Maybe another with a Floyd Ibanez upgrade?
David Michalek hey man thanks for checking it out! Its funny but im going to eventually upgrade another 7 string with a german floyd rose keep your eyes peeled! 👌🏽
Ivan Fiallos-Zambrano can’t wait brother! I have a bunch of project guitars I’m always looking to improve in some way or another.
cool video, dude.
I appreciate that Ben thanks!
@@ivanfiallos-zambrano5911 you're welcome, I love these kinds of videos. Just curious what tuning you had your guitar in at the end? the lowest string saddle looks pretty far back.
@@MetalGuitarGuy Drop G#
So you didn't have to change the pickups?
Sorry for the late response work has taking over my life, no i actually failed to mention the $200 guitar i got from reverb came with a bareknuckle aftermath and swapped a dimarzio paf neck from another guitar.
I know everyone's tastes are different and what makes something premium to me is different than you.... with that said, the biggest difference to me going prestiege to budget ibanez is the fretwork followed by craftsmanship then hardware. The Gibralter bridge is actually on the prestiege hard tails and is a fantastic bridge. I do like the upgrades you did to the nut, tuners, and electronics. Hopefully your tech spent some time on the fretwork to bring them up to the level you are after.
Good work, I enjoyed the video.
Hey man thanks for checking the video out! Yeah my tech is very knowledgeable on getting everything up to speed for me. She works on a bunch of LA based bands like the Foo Fighters etc
7:30 looks like you are making a brain surgery in a scary cyber baby T-rex !
Nice vídeo, I'm thinking to upgrade my ibanez Iron label RGIR27FE but I don't know which height hipshot tuners are direct fit. Any recommendation?
Hey Eduardo appreciate the kind words! The ones I purchased for my 7 string should be able to work on yours, but the only thing is that it will need some drilling (pilot holes) but my impatient ass decided to just screw into the headstock of my guitar since I did not have the right tools at the time but check this out! reverb.com/item/38732-hipshot-grip-lock-enclosed-7-in-line-non-staggered-post-black-locking-tuner?bk=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJqdGkiOiI1YTRiMDUwNS0zMTcxLTRlNDktYTc3MS1lZGJkNmJmYjE3ZDUiLCJpYXQiOjE2MTU2MTg0NzksInVzZXJfaWQiOiIiLCJzZXNzaW9uX2lkIjoiNTI4NGUxNjUtNWE1YS00NjI0LThjNjMtMjFhN2M3ZjJjM2EwIiwiY29va2llX2lkIjoiNDE1NTM3MjUtMDAyNC00ZjM1LTgxYjQtNmM0MjU0MGZkYmE3IiwicHJvZHVjdF9pZCI6IjM4NzMyIiwic291cmNlIjoiTk9ORSJ9.kiDkpsJJ-EzFsykDBk-TIG-VOQtaK4tprnno5bo8VwQ
What’s the song at 8 mins? Awesome video
The way the news goes by Periphery!
DIAMOND EYES
last thing to do is stain the rosewood black
you forgot the pots and cap also make a Hugh diff.
What string gauge you used here ?
Hey Joe I used Daddario NYXL .011/.014/.018/.030/.042/.052/ pack and purchased a single .64 of the same string type for the 7th string in Drop G#
@@ivanfiallos-zambrano5911 Thanks broo! Very similar to the set that I use but with the 0.62 on the low string. This 0.64 Looks pretty nice for G# your guitar
Joe SilvaGT yeah man i pick hard and the extra tension helps with recording for sure!
8:00 what song?
Periphery: The Way The News Goes
@@ivanfiallos-zambrano5911 thank