Swamp thing legit asked for it. When someone accuses you of not knowing what it's like to lose someone, and you do, how are you going to defend yourself? By talking about your experience. She didn't belittle him or dismiss him, instead she opened herself up and finally allowed herself to be vulnerable.
@@gezenews literally this whole thing is her trying to help someone else, crying because shes worried that someone else might be hurt. and you call that selfish. lmao
Before you all start to feel bad for Frank, just remember that he's a plant monster who's eaten a lot of people. Heck he once ate a child who was paid by Ivy to water and take care of him and then ate his family when they came to look for him. So yeah considering that and that Ivy planned on using him in a bid to destroy Gotham, Batman's definitely not the bad guy of the situation.
Before y'all have a fight because You feel bad for any character just remember this is fictional 💀 Edit= it is ok to have feelings for character and etc but I think it's very dumb of you to do if you have a fight over this topic??? 😗 Edit 2= I can already feel there will be an argument when I wrote this comments a few days ago. No it's not discussing or debating, if so why are you trying to make a debate about a series. Again it's a series and it's fictional why can't we all just have our own opinion instead of correcting each other? So no this isn't a debate or a discussion it's an argument and again people don't get me wrong I love Harley Quinn and I also feel emotional about the series from time to time but you don't have to make it this way
@@zyonhenderson67 i know but you expect this kind of scene with two plant based characters of opposite gender to be a “calling out you ex” thing so I love it that its something far less cliched.
@@elnombredelarosa3167 tbf that woulda been a what?..... triple beat? They've already done it at least once, this season even. So it woulda been a little oversaturated anyways.
I can understand Bruce's POV he's in a complicated place with Selina not reciprocating his affections and is trying to vent by focusing on his crime-fighting career (he did this in the comics a few times and other media). Also Harley is becoming a bit more of an Anti-Hero as the series progresses and Frank ate people so if I was batman and saw a potted man-eating plant get buff and get legs... I'm gonna investigate
He's a mutant plant what else is he suppose to eat, also what about King Shark? He eats people and sharks will eat people if given the chance too. I wouldn't read too much into it since he really has no reasons to care about humans to begin with especially being made by Ivy. He just does what he does and his only friend is Ivy.
I’m with Swamp Thing on this one. If you ain’t even willing to listen about your friend's divorce then you're a terrible friend. Also, it’s ironic how Ivy could complain about humans when ya know, she IS one, unlike Swampy. EDIT: For the people saying Swamp Thing is human this is canonically not the case. Swamp Thing isn't and never was actually human. His mind was BASED off of Alec Holland's, but saying he was human would be sort of like saying Ultron is/was human just because his brain waves were based on those of Hank Pym.
@@robbieking4070 I believe that was retconned a couple decades ago, that Swamp Thing has an imprint of the human’s mind on him, but he’s actually not originally the human he thought he was. One of the most critically acclaimed Swamp Thing runs by Alan Moore, writer of Watchmen.
@@flerken4233 yeah they made it so when he died in the swamp the plant life consumed him an thanks to the chemicals in the swamp the plants acquired his conscious becoming a plant humanoid monster that believes they are alec holland
For people asking if Batman the bad guy remember Ivy and Harley are responsible for the deaths of God know how many people. Just because they are the main characters or they have charming and quirky personality does not mean their innocents or anti heroes. That like saying L the bad guy for trying to stop Light murderous Crusade in Death Note.
@@TheCursedCat1927 Yeah. Ever since Gone with the Wind had Scarlet O’Hara as the main character, we’ve known that our main character doesn’t have to be a hero.
Swamp thing literally tells Ivy she does nothing but complain about her problems, not listening to others and what does she immediately do? Whines about her problems.
Right? That felt weird to me. Maybe I didn't grasp the whole concept here. But he told her she was a terrible friend, and she uno reversed it about her issues. She didn't even try to relate it to him. "I do know what you've felt because I'm going through it now, I'm sorry I wasn't there for you when you were going through it" nope. Just straight "I got problems fix them!"
@@mistercleff8819 That’s the problem- she already, always opened up to him about her problems and feelings- but she wouldn’t let _him_ open up about _his._ Now she’s just doing it again. He opens up about how she hurt him, and she doesn’t apologize or acknowledge she was wrong, just turns it back to herself again.
Perfectly understandable for Batman to want to stop Ivy’s plan but why is he unmasked in front of frank. He likely recognizes frank as sentient so what is he going to do to keep his secret identity?
@@Dantinus unless Joker blabs, Harley doesn't know Batman and Bruce are one and the same right? Harley knows where the cave is iirc but looking for a Wayne labs could take days/weeks (unless Ivy can pinpoint where Frank is).
@@purplephantom2441 That would make sense considering Bruce is taking some personal time away from Selina and lord knows they can't get her off the chair in the batcave even if they tried so it makes sense for him to do Frank experiments on the dozens of labs Wayne Enterprises owns. That would also explain why he's not in costume.
She's going to become a career super villain trying to resurrect Victor. She succeeds, but at the cost of her own life. Victor vows to bring her back, only to be shot dead by Harley because she is very tired of playing Igor to a Fries every season.
Yea she def needs an intervention as she is 100% the least stable member if the cobb squad atm. Its funny but also sad to watch…hopefully she gets help soon
I like that it seemed like Bruce being at the Court of Owls was just for the gag with Gordon but now it establishes why Harley found an Owl pin at the crime scene when he took Frank
It might be a coincidence. Batman don't make mistakes like leaving an owl pin, and since it's selina's house, it might of been her pin since she was in the party too.
Nora rolling her eyes while they were having the “You’ve never lost someone important to you” talk was by god the funniest shit I’ve seen animated like yeah she lost Mr.Freeze but that hasn’t stopped her from letting go and living life😂 #Justice4Victor
I mean Nora's whole character throughout this episode is how she's not over Victor and in fact is suffering a lot and going wild is her way to run away from it and when she tries to open up about it Ivy just forcefully changes the subject to avoid having to hear her... just like Swamp thing complained she did when he wanted someone to talk about his divorce
@@Carlos-ne3zf They still could imply it in a better way than "shes a slut". As a married man and DC fan it irritates me to no end that a traditionally committed woman just turns into a big ol skank and gets no room to work out her drama while Ivy and Harls get multiple episodes to work on their bullshit.
Which one? the Jim Carrey Millennial Grinch that was marketed to us that we relate to too much, or the Horton-Hears-A-Who Grinch made by Millennials because that was targeted to Gen-Z?
Kind of messed up. Ivy needs to stop trying victimize herself and apologize and own up to her treating swamp thing poorly. Setting a poor example. Had an ex who would cry and make herself look bad just to get the focus on herself and not own up to her mistakes. That kind of behavior in friends and partners needs to be squashed.
I mean at least in this scenario she was venting about losing Frank. At least she's ranting about someone else's safety and well being instead of hers. Not an angel, but at least a little improvement.
Feels like something both men and women need to hear about being vulnerable and there for other's. Being a better friend especially to men that needs that sympathetic ear.
You know at first I hated what they did to Nora but now that I think of it she is suffering from depression after loosing Mr. Freeze. She keeps having intercourse and drinking she really does miss him and is looking for someone just like Mr. Freeze.
That and I think it could also be a mix of her being frozen for who knows how long and missing out on the things she wasn’t able to do. She’s got A LOT going on
Nah they will fuck with him more in playful sense not legitimate I’m gonna kill you bs . he could have destroyed ivy’s lab , sent for the Marconi to pick up frank and he waited to arrest her Harley and the crew most likely and didn’t .
I would assume Harley would know because being the Joker Ex and had to fake being surprise when Poison Ivy find out. Seem like something they do and how Joker cry himself to sleep for month after finding out and not letting any one bring up.
@@Notmyday2009 - I'm probably misunderstanding your post, but Joker and Harley had been broken up for a while when Joker found out about Batman's identity... Then he immediately killed Scarecrow, and... did he tell Harley on-screen afterward? I need to rewatch the whole show...
It makes sense. He was at the court of owls. Plus, he was dating Catwoman, which made him comfortable enough to use her bathroom. He didn’t break in. Probably just asked for the key.
Harley: "Why did you kidnap Frank?" Batman: "Ivy is planning something, and I must figure out what." Ivy: "That's fair, but what does Bruce Wayne know about botany?"
Bruce: "Pamela, I attended med school with you and Harley. We sat in the same Biology class. Hell, we shared that minor in Economics. Don't act surprised that I know what I'm doing."
@@vicenzostella1390 There's been some tension between them, whether it's Bruce or Batman, due to the fact out of all the men, he's the only one who doesn't act like a "simp" (literally) towards Ivy, which she finds attractive, but it never went anywhere, especially since Catwoman is more popular to be with Batman. But there have been hints, even in recent comics, that Batman does find her attractive.
Swamp: "You were a bad friend because you never listened to me and just vented about your own stuff!" Ivvy proceeds to ignore his criticism, does not apologize, and then vents about her own stuff yet again. Swamp: "All is forgiven!"
You know, it's a little strange that Bruce wasn't in uniform while dealing with Frank. The plant's clearly sentient, and Frank's eyes are right there on his hands. Heartbreak has reduced Bruce to rookie level mistakes.
I just realized the only characters in this show that has been given true justice and depth to their character is Kite-Man and Mr. Freeze. I don't know how I feel about this.
Thats why i'm waiting for Jason Todd/Red Hood to appear because things will go really deep from that point. Considering how they treat Joker in this show I wouldn't be surprised if they made him regret killing Jason but Jason refuses to move on and tries to kill him, Harley, and Ivy.
Eh, given how Nightwing has been handled, I wouldn't be surprised if they made Jason either a carbon copy or a complete different character than how he is known in most mediums. I do like how they've handled the Joker since his 'resurrection' however.
I love the comparison between both plot lines, both Ivy and Bruce have emotional issues and trauma. But while ivy was able to work through em with Harleys help, Bruce is beginning to close himself off. This season is gonna be interesting
@Guilherme Silva And honestly, would Ivy's plan be that horrible if she just accomodated y'know, not killing everyone in Gotham in the Process? I mean, even her current plan seems to have a death toll that's purely incidental rather than because she's trying to kill anyone. Give it a couple more seasons and she'll finally be mature enough to just like, ask to use her powers and super science to green the city.
Even if technically the antagonist from the show perspective I still am rooting for batman and see him as the hero stopping a murderous villian and hopefully ending a horrid monster.
Yep, this comment aged like milk. (Spoilers down below) Wayne used Frank to bring back his parents from the grave, and started a zombie-plant plague that almost devastated Gotham, if not for Ivy and Harley stopping it. Bruce did not mentally recover from that, nor did his love and parental issues, but he wants to seek psychiatric help with Quinn, who joined the Bat-family. Good luck with your Zoom calls from prison, Mr. B.
well if u think batman would go and use the batroom while doing batman stuff on a place with lots of cameras, sure.... otherwise the mole guy has nothing to do with frank disapeareance and was just a wild-goose chase
Well if you think about it....Frank does eat people he is a plant monster. He’s eaten children. Also technically Ivy from a non Ivy or Harley point of view Ivy is a super villain. Her goal was to destroy humanity so her having a super powered plant isn’t exactly a good thing especially if her plan is to destroy Gotham and create a place where only plants exist. Technically she’s a threat and therefore so is Frank so Bruce’s POV is valid finding out what Ivy did to Frank will help him understand Ivy’s plan and stop it from hurting humans
in this show Ivy does not identify as a "super villain", she is a radical eco-terrorist. totally Bruce's job to stop her, but she is not doing it for villainy
@@sea-envy3137 yes but her plan still lines up with super villainy. She may identify as a eco terrorist but she’s still super powered and killing people so in a sense she still counts as a super villain in Batman’s books therefore he has to stop her
Battling your inner demons is indeed badass. And it's cool to see more DC chracaters being explored in fresh and interesting ways in this show's playful sandpit.
"Ivy you're a bad friend because you only talk about yourself and don't care about others" Ivy: "Starts talking about herself" "Wow Ivy, you totally learned your lesson"
" Ivy you're a bad friend because you don't care about anyone but yourself." Ivy: "Breaks down crying because she admits she cares about someone else and that she needs help finding him since she can't do it by herself." How did you miss that?
@@Starbright-cm4ji Because she still doesn't care about swamp thing. She doesn't apologize for her crappy behavior. She just cares about what she wants. HoW dId YoU MiSs tHat?
@@TylerSmith-ue1mv Swamp thing didnt ask for an apology, he was pointing out how the Ivy he knew was a bad friend who never cared about anyone but herself, which she was. So Ivy did something that he never thought he'd see her do, she asked for help for someone other than her, putting Frank's needs before her own. Once he saw that the person he thought she was had changed he was fine with just that. She has learned that both emotionally and physically this episode.
I swear, if the reason bruce cares is being some crazy writing that frank was made with the soil and ashes of Jason Todd and has Jason soul in him... id be impress at how crazy that writing is.
...Honestly, if I was Swamp Thing, I'd still be pissed at Ivy at the end. Admitting that, full stop, the only reason she's there at all was for her *own* problems, and trying to use ST to make up for what she perceives as her fault (Even if it was more Harley's fault but the show can't blame her for anything, soooo) Honestly, I'd just pitch Nora away to go dunk in swamp water, tell Ivy she's still as connected to the Green as ever, and channel my inner Shrek. *"GET OUTTA MY SWAMP!"*
In all honesty I think Nora should keep talking to swamp thing I feel like she’ll get way better living with him or like I said just talking because like she had said earlier she didn’t really have any real friends around to help her in season 2 when dr freeze died and being trapped in ice for 25 years without any human contact and then being suddenly exposed to it all at once can make someone have a psychological break down or self destruction. As for ivy and Harley I love how Harley is using her career to help out ivy work through her own shit because for once everything is about her and ivy is not used to that much support even just from one person so for Harley to ask her to help her plan is what you call true love she’s helping ivy see her dream through just like ivy did in season 1&2.
I suspected it was Bruce who took Frank. He was the only person who could know Harley’s crew was in his mansion besides Catwoman. Not to mention, well…it’s _his_ mansion!
batman is doing the right thing like I y literally trying to kill entire city to make a freaking garden when she could literally do this any where else
@Diego Palacios paiva I want "Formerly Known as the Justice League" to show up, and set up Maxwell Lord as an antagonist. They would fit in with the tone of the show. Have Harley throw lots of shade at Captain Atom for always dying in the comics and reference Fire having an Onlyfans
You know, like Harley, I was desperate to try a beignet. And I got one while I was in France. It was pretty much what you'd expect from what is basically a hot, suger powered doughnut.
Not a bad reveal, but I was partially hoping it would of been The Floronic Man. There's plenty of comic lore between him and Ivy that could be great in this show.
it's been leaked Season 4 episodes titles were sent to Entertainment Identifier Registry. Companies don't do this unless they have renewed their shows for another season. so, it's possible the announcement just hasn't been made public cause they are waiting for season 3 to end
So the writers said that the main antagonist for this season would be someone who had never been an antagonist in DC media before. Technically Bruce/Batman HAS been an antagonist before, but I'm guessing they meant as his normal, pure, uncorrupted self; not being mind-controlled by Darkseid or turned into the Batman who laughs or anything like that
Yup it's more like Bruce going off to the deep end as you can tell that he's slowly loosing his mind and perhaps he'll go far as 'becoming the mask' as in Bruce Wayne is his mask and Batman is true identity...
Not rlly a villian. The edan terraforming will destroy gotham. With the ppl in it. It's only he's the bad guy perspective cuz we're in the perspective of the main villains.
Yeah look Batman is in a complicated situation because the woman he’s in love with didn’t share the same feelings, we’ve all been there more then once, plus Ivy is a psychopath who has tried to eradicate humanity, and Frank has eaten innocent people
My theory here is that ivy sees that bruce captured and is studying frank kinda through torture, ivy is pissed and frustrated and after a couple more times encounters with humans ivy snaps and tries to dominate the world with plants not giving a damn.
Either that or some else's butt was taken. Cause I can never imagine Batman getting pants... unless it's a porn parody comics (hentai/yaoi/rule 34) or something.
Your ex friend accuses you of being selfish and say that you dont know what it feels like to lose someone, what do you do? : a) Make it all about yourself and your feelings? b) Apologize and show empathy?
The end of this episode did hint to Nora finding a better path. In fact, everything she was doing was to forget about Victor and the void his death caused.
> Shows up at friends' door > Brings a 6'6ft+ fling as her driver > Dumps him to hang out with said friends who don't want anything to do with her > Tags along with them anyway > Outdrinks Constantine off-screen > Intercourses with Swamp Thing > Learns a lesson indirectly between Ivy and Alec fighting > Has depression cured for the time being > Refuses to elaborate any further > Leaves Nora Fries, everybody.
Bruce needs to create his own league of shadows...., That'd be cool..., Damien could be a scout..., The dark horse - one could say... That the dark knight needed but never had
Hilarious that when Swamp Thing started to call out Ivy on her selfishness she immediately made everything about her and her problems.
No. She made it about her worry for a friend
Exactly, and after that she claime to be his friend
I felt the same way seeing that. But I think he's just happy to see her care for someone other than herself, even if it isn't him.
Swamp thing legit asked for it. When someone accuses you of not knowing what it's like to lose someone, and you do, how are you going to defend yourself? By talking about your experience. She didn't belittle him or dismiss him, instead she opened herself up and finally allowed herself to be vulnerable.
@@gezenews literally this whole thing is her trying to help someone else, crying because shes worried that someone else might be hurt. and you call that selfish. lmao
Before you all start to feel bad for Frank, just remember that he's a plant monster who's eaten a lot of people. Heck he once ate a child who was paid by Ivy to water and take care of him and then ate his family when they came to look for him. So yeah considering that and that Ivy planned on using him in a bid to destroy Gotham, Batman's definitely not the bad guy of the situation.
Batman is the antagonist here, but he is not a villain.
Before y'all have a fight because You feel bad for any character just remember this is fictional 💀
Edit= it is ok to have feelings for character and etc but I think it's very dumb of you to do if you have a fight over this topic??? 😗
Edit 2= I can already feel there will be an argument when I wrote this comments a few days ago. No it's not discussing or debating, if so why are you trying to make a debate about a series. Again it's a series and it's fictional why can't we all just have our own opinion instead of correcting each other? So no this isn't a debate or a discussion it's an argument and again people don't get me wrong I love Harley Quinn and I also feel emotional about the series from time to time but you don't have to make it this way
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So...?
You are saying that as if people are not allowed to feel anything about the Characters just because they aren't real...
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Ngl your opinion is kinda irrelevant.
Bruce/Batman is defenintly the antagonist here
I love how it wasn’t even an ex boyfriend thing but his complaining about Ivy being a shit friend
Being a shitty friend has to be worst than being bad to your ex to me
@@zyonhenderson67 i know but you expect this kind of scene with two plant based characters of opposite gender to be a “calling out you ex” thing so I love it that its something far less cliched.
@@elnombredelarosa3167 Nah I feel you. I like what they did here
@@elnombredelarosa3167 tbf that woulda been a what?..... triple beat? They've already done it at least once, this season even. So it woulda been a little oversaturated anyways.
@@lordderppington4694 yeah which is why I’m glad they avoided it
I can understand Bruce's POV he's in a complicated place with Selina not reciprocating his affections and is trying to vent by focusing on his crime-fighting career (he did this in the comics a few times and other media). Also Harley is becoming a bit more of an Anti-Hero as the series progresses and Frank ate people so if I was batman and saw a potted man-eating plant get buff and get legs... I'm gonna investigate
Still technically the good guy as he investigates and studies bad guy stuff like many heroes do
@@fictionverse7292 some... heroes do...
becasue from the last time i read a comic, tons of heroes do "punch now, ask later to never" kind of strategy
Yeah, plus harley really has no goals except to be with ivy until she gets bored.
He's a mutant plant what else is he suppose to eat, also what about King Shark? He eats people and sharks will eat people if given the chance too. I wouldn't read too much into it since he really has no reasons to care about humans to begin with especially being made by Ivy. He just does what he does and his only friend is Ivy.
@@10RexTheWolf01 pretty sure the actual research shows that sharks do eat human if they are startled or adjacent to that
I’m with Swamp Thing on this one. If you ain’t even willing to listen about your friend's divorce then you're a terrible friend. Also, it’s ironic how Ivy could complain about humans when ya know, she IS one, unlike Swampy.
EDIT: For the people saying Swamp Thing is human this is canonically not the case. Swamp Thing isn't and never was actually human. His mind was BASED off of Alec Holland's, but saying he was human would be sort of like saying Ultron is/was human just because his brain waves were based on those of Hank Pym.
No, Swamp Thing was also a human until he got mutated. He and Ivy are cut from the same cloth.
Similar cloth
Swamp Thing is literally a human though, at least on the emotional level. He's just the current Avatar of the Green.
@@robbieking4070 I believe that was retconned a couple decades ago, that Swamp Thing has an imprint of the human’s mind on him, but he’s actually not originally the human he thought he was. One of the most critically acclaimed Swamp Thing runs by Alan Moore, writer of Watchmen.
@@flerken4233 yeah they made it so when he died in the swamp the plant life consumed him an thanks to the chemicals in the swamp the plants acquired his conscious becoming a plant humanoid monster that believes they are alec holland
For people asking if Batman the bad guy remember Ivy and Harley are responsible for the deaths of God know how many people. Just because they are the main characters or they have charming and quirky personality does not mean their innocents or anti heroes. That like saying L the bad guy for trying to stop Light murderous Crusade in Death Note.
Im with u
I guess they want us to look in the villains eyes and ivy and Harley being the main character of the show see Bruce and the villain
Yeah, it's more that Batman isn't the bad guy, but he is definetly the antagonist from the perspective of the Show.
dont forget that ivy is lowkey trying to terraform gotham
@@TheCursedCat1927 Yeah. Ever since Gone with the Wind had Scarlet O’Hara as the main character, we’ve known that our main character doesn’t have to be a hero.
Swamp thing literally tells Ivy she does nothing but complain about her problems, not listening to others and what does she immediately do? Whines about her problems.
HAHAHAH ok, but makes sense he cares about it, cause she’s opening up to him
Lmao I fucking noticed it. I was expecting her to apologize
Right? That felt weird to me. Maybe I didn't grasp the whole concept here. But he told her she was a terrible friend, and she uno reversed it about her issues. She didn't even try to relate it to him. "I do know what you've felt because I'm going through it now, I'm sorry I wasn't there for you when you were going through it" nope. Just straight "I got problems fix them!"
IKR I thought we're gonna hear more about Swamp Thing
@@mistercleff8819 That’s the problem- she already, always opened up to him about her problems and feelings- but she wouldn’t let _him_ open up about _his._ Now she’s just doing it again. He opens up about how she hurt him, and she doesn’t apologize or acknowledge she was wrong, just turns it back to herself again.
Perfectly understandable for Batman to want to stop Ivy’s plan but why is he unmasked in front of frank. He likely recognizes frank as sentient so what is he going to do to keep his secret identity?
Im gussing he thinks franks blind or something so He doesn't have to wear his outfit.
@@jacobgross7950 But he is Batman. Batman don't make mistake like this.
@@Dantinus unless Joker blabs, Harley doesn't know Batman and Bruce are one and the same right? Harley knows where the cave is iirc but looking for a Wayne labs could take days/weeks (unless Ivy can pinpoint where Frank is).
I think they are at Wayne Enterprise. As long as Bruce doesn’t say he is Batman they just think it’s the company.
@@purplephantom2441 That would make sense considering Bruce is taking some personal time away from Selina and lord knows they can't get her off the chair in the batcave even if they tried so it makes sense for him to do Frank experiments on the dozens of labs Wayne Enterprises owns. That would also explain why he's not in costume.
I feel really bad for Nora, she’s pretty much lost everything meaningful and is currently self-destructing.
Aww, how sweet of her free hugs! 2:10
She may be getting her life back on track after this episode though. We'll see what happens.
She's going to become a career super villain trying to resurrect Victor. She succeeds, but at the cost of her own life.
Victor vows to bring her back, only to be shot dead by Harley because she is very tired of playing Igor to a Fries every season.
Yea she def needs an intervention as she is 100% the least stable member if the cobb squad atm. Its funny but also sad to watch…hopefully she gets help soon
Swamp Thing, Ivy rocking the big hair, and beignets? Best trip ever.
This is so weird , I love it !
Beignets are the shit! Seriously.
Basically her classic hair!
I like that it seemed like Bruce being at the Court of Owls was just for the gag with Gordon but now it establishes why Harley found an Owl pin at the crime scene when he took Frank
Guess batman canonically has a butt mole now. (This cannon, not dc comics)
So Bruce Wayne is mole butt?!
good point
Plus, he was dating Catwoman, which made him comfortable enough to use her bathroom. He didn’t break in. Probably just asked for the key
It might be a coincidence. Batman don't make mistakes like leaving an owl pin, and since it's selina's house, it might of been her pin since she was in the party too.
Nora rolling her eyes while they were having the “You’ve never lost someone important to you” talk was by god the funniest shit I’ve seen animated like yeah she lost Mr.Freeze but that hasn’t stopped her from letting go and living life😂 #Justice4Victor
I mean Nora's whole character throughout this episode is how she's not over Victor and in fact is suffering a lot and going wild is her way to run away from it and when she tries to open up about it Ivy just forcefully changes the subject to avoid having to hear her... just like Swamp thing complained she did when he wanted someone to talk about his divorce
@@Carlos-ne3zf They still could imply it in a better way than "shes a slut". As a married man and DC fan it irritates me to no end that a traditionally committed woman just turns into a big ol skank and gets no room to work out her drama while Ivy and Harls get multiple episodes to work on their bullshit.
She moved on from Mr.Freeze really fast, too fast imo
@@anonymousgaslighter345 she’s grieving.
Living life isn’t the same as being a ho
Why does Swamp Thing look like a Millennial Grinch
I ask the same broh
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Which one? the Jim Carrey Millennial Grinch that was marketed to us that we relate to too much, or the Horton-Hears-A-Who Grinch made by Millennials because that was targeted to Gen-Z?
@@DamienDarkside The newer one
Right?
Kind of messed up. Ivy needs to stop trying victimize herself and apologize and own up to her treating swamp thing poorly. Setting a poor example. Had an ex who would cry and make herself look bad just to get the focus on herself and not own up to her mistakes. That kind of behavior in friends and partners needs to be squashed.
She treated Harley poorly and lied to Kite Man about loving him. She also lied to herself about loving him.
Usually she’s the one to apologise when she does something bad in the previous eps, while Harley still didn’t ( about the camera thing for example )
Ivy is toxic makes so much sense
The issue was that Ivy was selfish. Except this time she’s worried about another individual
I mean at least in this scenario she was venting about losing Frank. At least she's ranting about someone else's safety and well being instead of hers. Not an angel, but at least a little improvement.
Feels like something both men and women need to hear about being vulnerable and there for other's. Being a better friend especially to men that needs that sympathetic ear.
True that
Pretty sure we’re all on Bruce’s side on this one.
Nah i wanna see Ivy as the big bad
@@gabrieleronzino3745 i mean we can still be on his side while also see her become the big bad
Why does there have to be "sides?what lol
@@MistahJay7 cause Frank ate a child and then ate that child's family. Which is not a pro gamer move.
@@dragonheart1236 it is😊
I think he's preventing destruction of gotham that ivy planned without knowing it
She does want to tho. She literally want to terraform Gotham into Eden
Perfect conversation between swamp thing and poison ivy.
You know at first I hated what they did to Nora but now that I think of it she is suffering from depression after loosing Mr. Freeze. She keeps having intercourse and drinking she really does miss him and is looking for someone just like Mr. Freeze.
That and I think it could also be a mix of her being frozen for who knows how long and missing out on the things she wasn’t able to do. She’s got A LOT going on
@@PeachMintz She was frozen for 25 years apparently
@@MCSPARTAN501 For the show?
@@PeachMintz Yeah I think it was mentioned in this episode actually
You know, they are opening the avenue to bring back people. Her meeting with Victor again has... Interesting potential
I have a feeling this is going to end in The Crew figuring out that Bruce is Batman. But like with Joker finding out, they won’t care.
Nah they will fuck with him more in playful sense not legitimate I’m gonna kill you bs . he could have destroyed ivy’s lab , sent for the Marconi to pick up frank and he waited to arrest her Harley and the crew most likely and didn’t .
I would assume Harley would know because being the Joker Ex and had to fake being surprise when Poison Ivy find out. Seem like something they do and how Joker cry himself to sleep for month after finding out and not letting any one bring up.
@@Notmyday2009 - I'm probably misunderstanding your post, but Joker and Harley had been broken up for a while when Joker found out about Batman's identity...
Then he immediately killed Scarecrow, and... did he tell Harley on-screen afterward? I need to rewatch the whole show...
The chat between Ivy and Swamp Thing, was actually kinda sweet.
Opening feelings to each other. I mean, they're both part plant after all.
Though Ivy never said sorry and is still complaining
@@missyummy1040 True.
Selena probably told Bruce about Ivy‘s evil plan for Gotham.
No, he probably hacked the cameras
Doubt it, the version of Catwoman in this show only cares about herself
"She did something to Frank"
Is he a human then?
He probably want to know how is he so powerful so he could get the powers.
It makes sense. He was at the court of owls. Plus, he was dating Catwoman, which made him comfortable enough to use her bathroom. He didn’t break in. Probably just asked for the key.
2:03 Who else thinks Ivy should keep her hair wild like that?
Harley: "Why did you kidnap Frank?"
Batman: "Ivy is planning something, and I must figure out what."
Ivy: "That's fair, but what does Bruce Wayne know about botany?"
Bruce: "Pamela, I attended med school with you and Harley. We sat in the same Biology class. Hell, we shared that minor in Economics. Don't act surprised that I know what I'm doing."
Bruce once worked together with Ivy in the comics, almost lead to them kissing, but Bruce pulled back thinking about his life as Batman.
@@tsnoob4669 I remember that. It always made me think about a story where Bats and Ivy were an actual relationship.
@@vicenzostella1390 There's been some tension between them, whether it's Bruce or Batman, due to the fact out of all the men, he's the only one who doesn't act like a "simp" (literally) towards Ivy, which she finds attractive, but it never went anywhere, especially since Catwoman is more popular to be with Batman. But there have been hints, even in recent comics, that Batman does find her attractive.
@@tsnoob4669 Yeah, the hints are definitely there, now we just need a good writer to put it into pages.
Swamp: "You were a bad friend because you never listened to me and just vented about your own stuff!"
Ivvy proceeds to ignore his criticism, does not apologize, and then vents about her own stuff yet again.
Swamp: "All is forgiven!"
The difference is that she was always selfish before but now she’s worried about someone else
She complained about Frank's problem, which isn't her own and she has no obligation to care but she does, which is enough for Swamp Thing.
I KNEW IT! Bruce doesn't pay his taxes and uses plant research as a back door.
Seems like people are misunderstanding the difference between antagonists and bad guys. Bruce isn't the bad guy, but he is the antagonist.
I don't think that kidnapping a speaking carnivourus plant in your house is considered villanous.
@@a.g.styles3500 yes, because antagonists don't have to be evil, they are just doing thing against the protagonist (Harley and Ivy in this case)
You know, it's a little strange that Bruce wasn't in uniform while dealing with Frank. The plant's clearly sentient, and Frank's eyes are right there on his hands. Heartbreak has reduced Bruce to rookie level mistakes.
Funny the reason why was showed. If it saw him as batman and use it to revived his parents. Then everyone know who is batman at this point
He is trying to hide he is batman because he will use him to revived his parents.
I just realized the only characters in this show that has been given true justice and depth to their character is Kite-Man and Mr. Freeze. I don't know how I feel about this.
Thats why i'm waiting for Jason Todd/Red Hood to appear because things will go really deep from that point.
Considering how they treat Joker in this show I wouldn't be surprised if they made him regret killing Jason but Jason refuses to move on and tries to kill him, Harley, and Ivy.
It's a satire get over yourselves.
Eh, given how Nightwing has been handled, I wouldn't be surprised if they made Jason either a carbon copy or a complete different character than how he is known in most mediums. I do like how they've handled the Joker since his 'resurrection' however.
Mr.Freeze's wife instantly fucked another dood as soon as he died
I think batgirl too. She normally appears just as a sidekick in other shows but in this one they have given her a very good depth.
I love the comparison between both plot lines, both Ivy and Bruce have emotional issues and trauma. But while ivy was able to work through em with Harleys help, Bruce is beginning to close himself off. This season is gonna be interesting
Well he tried to be open with Selina but she wasn't interested in a relationship.
Ivy is acting like a cat owner
Not a cat owner but genuinely curious on what you mean by that?
Quick reminder Ivy was using Frank to cause a plant apocalypse. So yeah Batman would try to stop that.
@Guilherme Silva And honestly, would Ivy's plan be that horrible if she just accomodated y'know, not killing everyone in Gotham in the Process?
I mean, even her current plan seems to have a death toll that's purely incidental rather than because she's trying to kill anyone. Give it a couple more seasons and she'll finally be mature enough to just like, ask to use her powers and super science to green the city.
1:15 I had NEVER seen Ivy breaks down like this. But lake kills it (naturally)
Even if technically the antagonist from the show perspective I still am rooting for batman and see him as the hero stopping a murderous villian and hopefully ending a horrid monster.
Yep, this comment aged like milk. (Spoilers down below)
Wayne used Frank to bring back his parents from the grave, and started a zombie-plant plague that almost devastated Gotham, if not for Ivy and Harley stopping it.
Bruce did not mentally recover from that, nor did his love and parental issues, but he wants to seek psychiatric help with Quinn, who joined the Bat-family.
Good luck with your Zoom calls from prison, Mr. B.
So does this mean Batman has a mole on his butt?
maybe
well if u think batman would go and use the batroom while doing batman stuff on a place with lots of cameras, sure.... otherwise the mole guy has nothing to do with frank disapeareance and was just a wild-goose chase
@@Juvelas3 I mean he’s clearly going through some stuff with Selina so him taking a revenge dump in the heat of the moment is not far fetched
Tbf, it used to be his building
I was going to say the same thing
Well if you think about it....Frank does eat people he is a plant monster. He’s eaten children. Also technically Ivy from a non Ivy or Harley point of view Ivy is a super villain. Her goal was to destroy humanity so her having a super powered plant isn’t exactly a good thing especially if her plan is to destroy Gotham and create a place where only plants exist. Technically she’s a threat and therefore so is Frank so Bruce’s POV is valid finding out what Ivy did to Frank will help him understand Ivy’s plan and stop it from hurting humans
in this show Ivy does not identify as a "super villain", she is a radical eco-terrorist.
totally Bruce's job to stop her, but she is not doing it for villainy
@@sea-envy3137 yes but her plan still lines up with super villainy. She may identify as a eco terrorist but she’s still super powered and killing people so in a sense she still counts as a super villain in Batman’s books therefore he has to stop her
It's Batman guys! It's been Batman all along!
No thats clearly Bruce Wayne, he and Batman are 2 completely different characters.
Where batman
@@redboxgamingyt3452 Not anymore. Harley and Ivy now know that Bruce Wayne and Batman are one and the same.
Of course is Batman, Ivy wants to terraform the city, who else can save this city?
Battling your inner demons is indeed badass. And it's cool to see more DC chracaters being explored in fresh and interesting ways in this show's playful sandpit.
The hardest thing about being strong is that no one ever askes that your okay
Oh shit. Does this mean the Quinn Crew are gonna find out Batman’s secret identity?
Probably not they might just think Bruce works for Batman
@@kwayneboy1524 I think they are about to find out his identity very soon.
Probably, but they likely won’t care.
well Joker knows and nothing bad came from it
@@xtrlsidma He doesnt remember
Honest truth before Alfred came in I honestly thought they were introducing Hush into the universe
By far one of the more unique portrayals of Swamp Thing.
"Ivy you're a bad friend because you only talk about yourself and don't care about others"
Ivy: "Starts talking about herself"
"Wow Ivy, you totally learned your lesson"
The problem was that she was selfish, but now she’s worried about another individual
" Ivy you're a bad friend because you don't care about anyone but yourself."
Ivy: "Breaks down crying because she admits she cares about someone else and that she needs help finding him since she can't do it by herself."
How did you miss that?
@@Starbright-cm4ji
Because he’s reaching
@@Starbright-cm4ji Because she still doesn't care about swamp thing. She doesn't apologize for her crappy behavior. She just cares about what she wants.
HoW dId YoU MiSs tHat?
@@TylerSmith-ue1mv Swamp thing didnt ask for an apology, he was pointing out how the Ivy he knew was a bad friend who never cared about anyone but herself, which she was. So Ivy did something that he never thought he'd see her do, she asked for help for someone other than her, putting Frank's needs before her own. Once he saw that the person he thought she was had changed he was fine with just that. She has learned that both emotionally and physically this episode.
I swear, if the reason bruce cares is being some crazy writing that frank was made with the soil and ashes of Jason Todd and has Jason soul in him... id be impress at how crazy that writing is.
This is probably not the case
@@captaindexpool3192Nope, it is not
Ivy and frank share a great and funny bond
Wow, when she said that line of “I hate when ‘the power was inside me all along’ thing” she seemed so much like Jane from “Daria”.
from an audience standpoint it seems cliché, but the fact Ivy calls it out makes it just work
I like that they didn't make Ivy the all powerful green goddess. They maintain the established hierarchy of the Green.💚
biggest plot twist was when swamp thing was p cool about destroying humanity but not ok with how she was a bad friend
...Honestly, if I was Swamp Thing, I'd still be pissed at Ivy at the end. Admitting that, full stop, the only reason she's there at all was for her *own* problems, and trying to use ST to make up for what she perceives as her fault (Even if it was more Harley's fault but the show can't blame her for anything, soooo) Honestly, I'd just pitch Nora away to go dunk in swamp water, tell Ivy she's still as connected to the Green as ever, and channel my inner Shrek.
*"GET OUTTA MY SWAMP!"*
Well, to be fair, she was there because of Frank, not for herself
is this me or you? best delivery ever
Lol I love that swamp thing has a man bun 😂 😂 😂
In all honesty I think Nora should keep talking to swamp thing I feel like she’ll get way better living with him or like I said just talking because like she had said earlier she didn’t really have any real friends around to help her in season 2 when dr freeze died and being trapped in ice for 25 years without any human contact and then being suddenly exposed to it all at once can make someone have a psychological break down or self destruction. As for ivy and Harley I love how Harley is using her career to help out ivy work through her own shit because for once everything is about her and ivy is not used to that much support even just from one person so for Harley to ask her to help her plan is what you call true love she’s helping ivy see her dream through just like ivy did in season 1&2.
I suspected it was Bruce who took Frank. He was the only person who could know Harley’s crew was in his mansion besides Catwoman. Not to mention, well…it’s _his_ mansion!
And Batman is sloooowly turning into the villain XD
I like how this show will remind you it's a parody of DC comics with the little touches. Like Swamp Thing's man bun.
1:30 Why is he stopping? He just said he always listens, but she never does.
batman is doing the right thing like I y literally trying to kill entire city to make a freaking garden when she could literally do this any where else
Bruce kidnapped Frank now there’s a plot twist I wasn’t expecting.
@Diego Palacios paiva I want "Formerly Known as the Justice League" to show up, and set up Maxwell Lord as an antagonist. They would fit in with the tone of the show. Have Harley throw lots of shade at Captain Atom for always dying in the comics and reference Fire having an Onlyfans
Gotta say I like this version of swamp thing
Of course he's going to be sensitive! He's basically the entire planet. He's going to feel everything.
How is Ivy's hair always amazing
You know, like Harley, I was desperate to try a beignet. And I got one while I was in France. It was pretty much what you'd expect from what is basically a hot, suger powered doughnut.
Funny how Harley thinks she can take on Swamp Thing
Funnier is how she beats him in Injustice universe, i guess she has powers there thanks to the superpill but its funny nonetheless
To be fair a raging psychotic Harley scares me more then Swamp thing lol
She has plot amour she can beat anyone.
Not a bad reveal, but I was partially hoping it would of been The Floronic Man. There's plenty of comic lore between him and Ivy that could be great in this show.
There is still a chance he’ll pop up later , or at least get name dropped
He’s a sentient plant! Not a victim
I know right?
Why does Swamp Thing looks like the Grinch who stole Christmas?
Swamp Thing just wanted a real plant bestie
everyone keep streaming so we get season 4 of this amazing show!!
Confirmed season 4
it's been leaked Season 4 episodes titles were sent to Entertainment Identifier Registry. Companies don't do this unless they have renewed their shows for another season. so, it's possible the announcement just hasn't been made public cause they are waiting for season 3 to end
Harley brought a swarm of parademons to gotham just because she was confused about her feelings for Ivy
Swamp thing and harley are the best about facing our inner demons that inside all of us.
Btw Harley. If your reading this comment from youtube. I give it 10 stars out of 10.
So the writers said that the main antagonist for this season would be someone who had never been an antagonist in DC media before.
Technically Bruce/Batman HAS been an antagonist before, but I'm guessing they meant as his normal, pure, uncorrupted self; not being mind-controlled by Darkseid or turned into the Batman who laughs or anything like that
Yup it's more like Bruce going off to the deep end as you can tell that he's slowly loosing his mind and perhaps he'll go far as 'becoming the mask' as in Bruce Wayne is his mask and Batman is true identity...
I mean yeah, but also Ivy will probably be the villain for the final eps ( and Harley will join the BatFam to stop her )
Not rlly a villian. The edan terraforming will destroy gotham. With the ppl in it. It's only he's the bad guy perspective cuz we're in the perspective of the main villains.
Its not that deep
Tbh Bruce is in the right here. Ivy’s trying to destroy Gotham City. POVs are so interesting!
Hopefully this is the beginning of Nora getting a chance to clean up and have a normal life.
Yeah look Batman is in a complicated situation because the woman he’s in love with didn’t share the same feelings, we’ve all been there more then once, plus Ivy is a psychopath who has tried to eradicate humanity, and Frank has eaten innocent people
My theory here is that ivy sees that bruce captured and is studying frank kinda through torture, ivy is pissed and frustrated and after a couple more times encounters with humans ivy snaps and tries to dominate the world with plants not giving a damn.
one thing to remember here is that this isn't a series about the heroes, it's about the villains.
Did they realy give swamp thing a man bun🤣
I call it a moss bun
Just shows that he retains much of his humanity.
Wait ! So batman has a butt mole !?
Either that or some else's butt was taken. Cause I can never imagine Batman getting pants... unless it's a porn parody comics (hentai/yaoi/rule 34) or something.
Why would batman have a butt mole?
Where does it say that?
@@cameronmcewen9666 you gotta watch the last episode to find out
I WAS WONDERING THE SAME THING
Anybody else thinks Swamp Thing looks like the Grinch?
Your ex friend accuses you of being selfish and say that you dont know what it feels like to lose someone, what do you do? :
a) Make it all about yourself and your feelings?
b) Apologize and show empathy?
3:00 I hate that cliche.
She's right that sucks
I really hope Nora can get her shit together. If not this season, then maybe next season.
The end of this episode did hint to Nora finding a better path. In fact, everything she was doing was to forget about Victor and the void his death caused.
This show is making me like the villains, it's both funny and disturbing 🤣
Villains are more entertaining than heroes anyway. Heroes are pretty boring.
Nora's character coulda been cut from the show literally no one woulda complained
Love the 90's throw back with the hair Ivy🥰🥰
that is scary.
We went from green to Batman and Batman is scarier
> Shows up at friends' door
> Brings a 6'6ft+ fling as her driver
> Dumps him to hang out with said friends who don't want anything to do with her
> Tags along with them anyway
> Outdrinks Constantine off-screen
> Intercourses with Swamp Thing
> Learns a lesson indirectly between Ivy and Alec fighting
> Has depression cured for the time being
> Refuses to elaborate any further
> Leaves
Nora Fries, everybody.
I would like to see Batman get his edge back and rip into everyone.
Swamp thing sounds like he's trying to kill Zeus and the Olympians.
Ok I can’t be the only that sees a little bit of the grinch in swamp thing
Ivy's hair was getting crazier each frame there lmao
Bruce needs to create his own league of shadows...., That'd be cool..., Damien could be a scout..., The dark horse - one could say...
That the dark knight needed but never had
Swamp thing was right she is selfish. Maybe i missed it, but i don't think ivy apologized. She just started crying when she got called out.
How the hell is that not Kratos's original voice actor?
Because Teal'c is busy.
You think they could’ve had TC Carson voicing Alec Holland?
Tom King definitely wrote this season.
Always knew Wayne was the BBEG
Unironically, I actually really like that poofy hair on Ivy
I'm fine, I don't need selina, I don't need love, I'm focusing on my career right now.
Damn batman anything more you wanna tell us chief.
I think Damien should call his mom....