You know his screams aren't like how they used to be, but he sure as hell is trying! He's getting older, and from many other vocalists his throats just isn't doing him good. Not saying that's a bad thing, but that's just how it is. I still loved this video!
Age is not a good reason for bad harsh vocals. harsh vocals are basically just pure technique. And anders' technique is absolutely horrible in a way, that he destroys his own vocal chords, while in reality you should not even use the vocal chords for harsh vocals.
@@HeavyMetalGamingHDFor certain as you call it harsh vocals, you need to use vocal chords. For for example singing with distorstion (yes it is a harsh vocal technique).
It's because for some fucking reason they decided not to play a lot of the melodies, there is one during the chorus and the part that starts at 1:48. Incredibly disappointing because this song is not hard on guitar at all.
Anders usually changes the way he sings in the live performaces, is like when you sing at your home you just go with the flow of the song and sings the way that you feel at that moment, at least I think that he aproaches this live moments in this way enjoying with the public instead of just singing like in the records. it was something that bodered me in the beggining as well but now I realized that I sing just like him most of the time haha This has not been confirmed by none of the members but I think it is something in these lines
@@supremophm9910no man that’s not how it works. People paid alot of money hear the song done right. You don’t get to just loud talk and half ass scream the words.
@trantorthetroll8768 that could be the case for a new band that is making the first shows, but in flames is really old and it has always been like this, if you don't like them just do not watch it... I'm not.hating on you bro you have your opinion I have mine but I really do not see why someone would pay to.see the band if they do not like the way they do it
Everyboudy says Anders Voice is bad, but i think its not! Sure, its not as good as it was 10 years ago, but i think its stil pretty good and powerfull!
What you are experiencing is called denial. Its the same reasoning you use to manage still being an In Flames fan in 2016. on a personal note. -holy crap Fridens voice is ruined. And this version. It would have been better being sung by a teenage cover band.
@@seba8194 nah, I was just alive, with working ears, during the 90s. Hearing them live back then, even compared to just 10 years later was night and day. Band was really starting to fall apart 15 years ago. I wouldn't even imagine how it sounds live these days... Probably downtuned and mixed to shit.
@@MotherAce Anders was always playing around and chopping up only for the weak, it has nothing to do with his vocal abilities. Find stand ablaze, behind space, graveland from this years shows and give them a listen.
@@MotherAce Anders voice has actually improved from this time era, and he sounds pretty damn good th-cam.com/video/zMa47oaalkI/w-d-xo.html mixing is quite good and their latest singles from Foregone have been their best stuff in years imo. Although this performance wasn't his best imo, I am glad to see him improve.
Tell me about it. They barely look interested when playing older tracks if you look closely on newer live clips. Watered down and routinely mailing it in. They know what they have turned into, and that is their punishment. Anders looks like a golf caddie here by the way.
Shut with the 90s MDM already. The first IN FLAMES albums were fucking awful. Everything before Clayman is boring as fuck. And the last album was also boring as fuck but in a different way. But please stop whining about the "old In Flames".
Zombot I'm not whining buddy. Just stated my opinion. The Subterranean EP beats the hell out of whatever it was I heard in this video clip. The early sound of In Flames is timeless.
Agreed - They where unike, now tey sound lika a generic modern american metal band. Up till clayman is awesome, everything after... meeh... Jesper Strömblad was the heart and sould of the band.
Everyone giving out about Anders voice must have forgotten he’s in his 40s during that performance can’t expect his voice to be the same as it was when he was in his 20s
Nah horrible reasoning. Many old singers can scream and growl perfectly fine. It's all about technique and anders' technique is basically almost non existent.
GOtta say I hate when they change the song like this. Masterpiece like this should not be changed. Doesn't matter if they made it :P This sounds terrible. And I'm not a typical in flames hater I love the band.
The thing is that his voice changed over time, he spent all of his throat on the first 10 years of In Flames in singing in heavy screams. Now he is just "handicapped" from singing in that way. I can hear him trying and trying to scream without much success. So, as much as I hate saying this, their new style fits them better just because of the fact Anders wasn't born to be a death metal singer. I think it's not that he doesn't want to do another Whoracle or Jester race style album, but he can't do that. I completely respect it, not judging him for anything, as I feel he wasn't the one to decide, but his throat changes over time.. I do prefer the old In flames' songs so I sure feel sorry there's no more great new wild stuff from them.
PixxiCarArt Mikael Stannes from DT is fine. Lead singer of amon amarth is fine.at the gates are fine. in flames did this to themselves, stop making excuses for them
I am a diehard In flames melodeath era fan and am not making excuses for them, don't get me wrong. The "I don't wanna do Whoracle or Jester race again" is a justification(an excuse) for their (primarily Anders') inability to do such albums anymore. We cannot compare him to other singers in death metal bands. That is just because human individuals differ, someone's throat endures decades of screaming and growling, someone's don't. Natural selection plus the way they treat their voices themselves.
This just means he used a horrible technique. you don't wear out your throat with a proper guttural singing technique. You can do growls into your 70s easily if you know what you do. Many even get better with age, because they refine their technique. Just listen to old amon amarth and current amon amarth. Johan's growls became way deeper. Johan and Anders are also literally the same age.
@@HeavyMetalGamingHD You are absolutely right. Peter Tägtgren of Hypocrisy is probably my favorite example confirming your theory. Back to In Flames, listening to the 2004 live stuff you can find on youtube though, I still think the technique was too much all in which might have caused some harm. That said, I wrote this comment years ago and I must admit the newer stuff did make me bite my tongue a little for sure. I am no expert in this so at the end of the day, I have no idea😅
the dude doesnt care man. Rocking a all white outfit to a metal gig hahah and he doesnt sound good at all. But its in flames man. I am coping a new album when it comes out.
The concert was super disappointing comparing to my expectations.. his voice did not feel right compared to what I've heard earlier and a lot of the recorded music. Of all the live performances I've seen from In Flames, this has to be one of the most disappointing ones.
***** Haven't seen it yet. I still stand by my point, waiting for ages to In Flames to arrive on Stage LIVE for the first time.. it was disappointing..
Hahaha, Anders looks like some "edgy" DJ or hiphop producer. Or as someone else said Fred Durst. It suits the modern In Flaymz as a glove. And his voice sucks more than ever. Even my neutered cat sounds more powerful.
They would benefit from recruiting a harsh vocalist. Anders harsh vocals are shit. Kinda better cleans now. But I think dual vocalists would freshen up In Flames. If they got the right person, in my opinion.
Well this is certainly really different version of the song. I really dont like it with all the random echos, random changes in the singing tone and missing melodies.
You know his screams aren't like how they used to be, but he sure as hell is trying! He's getting older, and from many other vocalists his throats just isn't doing him good. Not saying that's a bad thing, but that's just how it is. I still loved this video!
Age is not a good reason for bad harsh vocals. harsh vocals are basically just pure technique. And anders' technique is absolutely horrible in a way, that he destroys his own vocal chords, while in reality you should not even use the vocal chords for harsh vocals.
And now, 6 years older he's doing better :)
@@HeavyMetalGamingHDFor certain as you call it harsh vocals, you need to use vocal chords. For for example singing with distorstion (yes it is a harsh vocal technique).
He's slowly turns to Fred Durst😂
Indeed.
even though Fred never had a beard until now
wigger
Nah, man. Boyd Coddington if you're a hot rod enthusiast you'd know the man. Either way, I still like the band and the new stuff.
Who?
Wait, this isn't how I remember this song..
no! is more...metalcore
jesus becerra Honestly, its pretty bad !
It's because for some fucking reason they decided not to play a lot of the melodies, there is one during the chorus and the part that starts at 1:48. Incredibly disappointing because this song is not hard on guitar at all.
FusRoDah2 IKR. This band has changed so much !
Chirodip Basu My plan is to form an In Flames cover band, give the world the In Flames music that WE DESERVE.
I love this song. How is it's possible destroy this great song ? Guys, do you have forgotten how to play and sing it?
Anders usually changes the way he sings in the live performaces, is like when you sing at your home you just go with the flow of the song and sings the way that you feel at that moment, at least I think that he aproaches this live moments in this way enjoying with the public instead of just singing like in the records. it was something that bodered me in the beggining as well but now I realized that I sing just like him most of the time haha
This has not been confirmed by none of the members but I think it is something in these lines
@@supremophm9910no man that’s not how it works. People paid alot of money hear the song done right. You don’t get to just loud talk and half ass scream the words.
@trantorthetroll8768 that could be the case for a new band that is making the first shows, but in flames is really old and it has always been like this, if you don't like them just do not watch it... I'm not.hating on you bro you have your opinion I have mine but I really do not see why someone would pay to.see the band if they do not like the way they do it
love this song since 2009!
What happened with the battery? Where is the keyboard track?
Excelente trabalho...Super Banda, guitarrista deu umas derrapadas feias, mas ta valendo...Eles tem muita história!
percebi kkkkkkkk devia ter bebido kkkkk
Everyboudy says Anders Voice is bad, but i think its not!
Sure, its not as good as it was 10 years ago, but i think its stil pretty good and powerfull!
What you are experiencing is called denial. Its the same reasoning you use to manage still being an In Flames fan in 2016.
on a personal note. -holy crap Fridens voice is ruined. And this version. It would have been better being sung by a teenage cover band.
@@MotherAce youre just an edgy guy...
@@seba8194 nah, I was just alive, with working ears, during the 90s. Hearing them live back then, even compared to just 10 years later was night and day. Band was really starting to fall apart 15 years ago. I wouldn't even imagine how it sounds live these days...
Probably downtuned and mixed to shit.
@@MotherAce Anders was always playing around and chopping up only for the weak, it has nothing to do with his vocal abilities.
Find stand ablaze, behind space, graveland from this years shows and give them a listen.
@@MotherAce Anders voice has actually improved from this time era, and he sounds pretty damn good th-cam.com/video/zMa47oaalkI/w-d-xo.html mixing is quite good and their latest singles from Foregone have been their best stuff in years imo. Although this performance wasn't his best imo, I am glad to see him improve.
what happened to Anders' live voice? he's sounding like Chino Moreno
In Flames we trust \,,/
He is getting old... Everybody all is
Chino sounds better
A Ghost of the glorious past...
This band didn't age well. I remember them sounding pretty good in the 90's, good old swedish medlodic death.
melodic death*
Tell me about it. They barely look interested when playing older tracks if you look closely on newer live clips. Watered down and routinely mailing it in. They know what they have turned into, and that is their punishment.
Anders looks like a golf caddie here by the way.
Shut with the 90s MDM already. The first IN FLAMES albums were fucking awful. Everything before Clayman is boring as fuck. And the last album was also boring as fuck but in a different way. But please stop whining about the "old In Flames".
Zombot I'm not whining buddy. Just stated my opinion. The Subterranean EP beats the hell out of whatever it was I heard in this video clip. The early sound of In Flames is timeless.
Agreed - They where unike, now tey sound lika a generic modern american metal band. Up till clayman is awesome, everything after... meeh... Jesper Strömblad was the heart and sould of the band.
Muy bueno genial gracias Wacken TV 🤘🇲🇽👏
Everyone giving out about Anders voice must have forgotten he’s in his 40s during that performance can’t expect his voice to be the same as it was when he was in his 20s
Mikael Stanne is in his 40s too and still sounds fucking amazing live. Anders need to finally start looking after his voice...
Nah horrible reasoning. Many old singers can scream and growl perfectly fine. It's all about technique and anders' technique is basically almost non existent.
Allan from Hangover can sing!!!
Wait, I'm confused...I came here for In Flames...what cover band is this?
my favorite song
4:45 when he realizes to what his band developped
That guitar solo is just so badly executed. It hurt hearing it -.-
BEST COVER BAND
Richtig geile Show
Drummer almost falling asleep...
Wait,fred durst was invited to sing this?
don't insult fred durst like that. Fred durst can actually still sing. This does not mean, that he is not an idiot.
in flames trust you!!!
from korea~★
GOtta say I hate when they change the song like this. Masterpiece like this should not be changed. Doesn't matter if they made it :P This sounds terrible. And I'm not a typical in flames hater I love the band.
The thing is that his voice changed over time, he spent all of his throat on the first 10 years of In Flames in singing in heavy screams. Now he is just "handicapped" from singing in that way. I can hear him trying and trying to scream without much success. So, as much as I hate saying this, their new style fits them better just because of the fact Anders wasn't born to be a death metal singer. I think it's not that he doesn't want to do another Whoracle or Jester race style album, but he can't do that. I completely respect it, not judging him for anything, as I feel he wasn't the one to decide, but his throat changes over time.. I do prefer the old In flames' songs so I sure feel sorry there's no more great new wild stuff from them.
PixxiCarArt Mikael Stannes from DT is fine. Lead singer of amon amarth is fine.at the gates are fine. in flames did this to themselves, stop making excuses for them
I am a diehard In flames melodeath era fan and am not making excuses for them, don't get me wrong. The "I don't wanna do Whoracle or Jester race again" is a justification(an excuse) for their (primarily Anders') inability to do such albums anymore. We cannot compare him to other singers in death metal bands. That is just because human individuals differ, someone's throat endures decades of screaming and growling, someone's don't. Natural selection plus the way they treat their voices themselves.
This just means he used a horrible technique. you don't wear out your throat with a proper guttural singing technique. You can do growls into your 70s easily if you know what you do. Many even get better with age, because they refine their technique. Just listen to old amon amarth and current amon amarth. Johan's growls became way deeper. Johan and Anders are also literally the same age.
@@HeavyMetalGamingHD You are absolutely right. Peter Tägtgren of Hypocrisy is probably my favorite example confirming your theory. Back to In Flames, listening to the 2004 live stuff you can find on youtube though, I still think the technique was too much all in which might have caused some harm.
That said, I wrote this comment years ago and I must admit the newer stuff did make me bite my tongue a little for sure.
I am no expert in this so at the end of the day, I have no idea😅
the dude doesnt care man. Rocking a all white outfit to a metal gig hahah and he doesnt sound good at all. But its in flames man. I am coping a new album when it comes out.
anders ruined the song lol, what a disastrous performance.
IN FLAMES is soooooooooooooooo mother fucking good
are you for real? this is one of the worst metal performances I've ever seen. They completely butchered the track and the vocals are the worst.
Is it me or is the guitar solo butchered as well ?
It's very sloppy. Not clean at all.
🤘🤘💥💥🤘🤘
quien es el que canta? (sarcasmo)
El vocalista de Limp Bizkit
wtf..... where is the lead guitar
Jesper left a while back lol
Jesper left and took the In Flames sound with him.
Aua
Pinche cumbión.
Abysmal.
Wow his screams sound better than they've ever been!
Ramon Mercader says hello.
Zeeshan Meghji, i agree!!
The concert was super disappointing comparing to my expectations.. his voice did not feel right compared to what I've heard earlier and a lot of the recorded music. Of all the live performances I've seen from In Flames, this has to be one of the most disappointing ones.
+TeaRex Watch Wacken 2012 and tell me his voice was bad here...
***** Haven't seen it yet. I still stand by my point, waiting for ages to In Flames to arrive on Stage LIVE for the first time.. it was disappointing..
In hellfest 2015 he was amazing I have to admit it
Es gibt immer was zu meckern ... :-)
Hahaha, Anders looks like some "edgy" DJ or hiphop producer. Or as someone else said Fred Durst. It suits the modern In Flaymz as a glove. And his voice sucks more than ever. Even my neutered cat sounds more powerful.
I love his new look...
THIS GUY IS A BIZARRE MIX BETWEN JUSTIN BIEBER AND FRED DURST...
Ich mag In Flames wirklich sehr aber ich frage mich warum er diese Golf-Klamotten trägt...
ich auch :D
+Rafael Steinkamp obwohl ich eigentlich kein Metal höre :)
Vielleicht weil das einen ernsteren Eindruck machen soll
Well established lässig aussieht?
A tribute to In Flames here : th-cam.com/video/gZoV8vt4ZLE/w-d-xo.html
Puhh da hatten In Flames wohl echt kein guten Tag
dubinsky-buratino)))
what happened to this band...
They would benefit from recruiting a harsh vocalist. Anders harsh vocals are shit. Kinda better cleans now. But I think dual vocalists would freshen up In Flames. If they got the right person, in my opinion.
they need more distortion in the sound yo not just the vocals.. older live performances older songs sounded way more powerful than nowadays
Trotzdem war's geil 1.Reihe vor der Bühne geiler Scheiss
Wie schön das doch war :3
And Dark Tranquillity got only 3 songs to play...
The "old" In Flames was so much better...
I respect the band, but they no longer the same, nowadays sounds like a disney soundtrack....
What kind of Disney movies are you watching?
Well this is certainly really different version of the song. I really dont like it with all the random echos, random changes in the singing tone and missing melodies.
Pevač se obukao ko da ide na svadbu.
Desafinou a guitarra no solo... :(
es una mierda in flames actualmente
this music is cool on the cd but her its sheet
his scream is not good
his scream is bad in live
In Flames anno 2015 is the musical equivalent of an epic facepalm. Fridens "vocals" need retiring.
the entirel band retired from the Metal scene years ago.
fatal
A degenerate band
Lost forever
Stand ablaze
Cringey
vocals are awful
he cant sing for shit nowdays rip , back to sticky fingers even tho it was dubbed
yeah remove the only lead instrument that 100% made this track what it is, it’ll be fine 😑
Year by year the Vocalist live performance is becoming worst and worst.
Awful.
Ghastly... 🤦🤷
Cool gig, terrible solo on that song %|