Build A Home Server For Your Music and Movies With FreeNAS!
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Welcome to DIY Tryin, a brand-new show about do-it-yourself solutions and maker culture from the Tekzilla team! Here on DIY Tryin, we live by the motto; "Why buy when you can make?"
Got an old PC? Install FreeNAS and you'll have a bomproof box to serve your media files and back up your computers... on this episode of DIYTryin, we should you how build a FreeNAS, the tricks behind configuring it, and explain why using FreeNAS's ZFS will save your data if one your hard drives dies!
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DANGER. This episode mentions a image burning software called ImgBurn. When installing, it will try to get you to install a insanely problematic toolbar called Conduit Search. Do NOT do a quick install. MAKE SURE YOU UNCHECK ALL THE BOXES. DO NOT INSTALL SPYWARE TOOLBARS.
or install infrarecorder
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when i watched this video it gave me the old youtube play pause bar.
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+Charged Creeper Gaming Its enabling Flash player instead of HTML5. Which is odd because html5 is the default standard. This video must be old, or not configure right. Who knows.
Me too!
Hi guys!
Great video but have one suggestion: Calling everything (folder, drives, etc) "diytryin" may become confusing for the viewer if they are totally new to the process (like me!). I know you love the name, but maybe add a suffix to the names like "diytryin - Storage" and "diytryin - Windows share" etc. This way the viewer can differentiate between what they are looking at in your tutorial. Just a suggestion. Keep up the good work!
Just in time to never leave the house, ever. Awesome new show guys!
Now look at what you did. lol
Holy Hell Patrick I found you!!! I miss you from your TechTV Days!!!! One question, WHERE IS THE KILT AND THE SLEDGE??? Haha.
What recycle i5 CPU PC, what is your current one? Dual i7? Dual core CPU its anough, I manage to work it on eee PC (1ghz atom)
Check out this show for more how to's and DIY projects!
Thanks Ben!
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hey crabby patty, he's endorsing, not advertising.
the big channel doesn't advertise on the little channels for self promotion. goes the other way around.
GTFO You are getting lamer and lamer
Please follow their advice on the ZFS parity, It is way better than stock RAID5 but still has the added benefit of extra space. The array is software driven so having a decent amount of ram is a MUST. The golden rule on the forums is at least 2GB at first and then another 1GB per TB of space in the RAID.
Your array of drives is only limited by your maximum amount of ram in your system, Or the software will flip out when it doesnt have enough ram to maintain the array properly.
I am a pc nerd whos also working on getting his A+, so I like this Open source NAS and I thank the super nerd who put it on the internet for us nerds :)
Great video...now who do I talk to about getting adverts removed from this site? Oh yes Google...the killers of TH-cam!
Omg I literally have an Inspiron 530 under my bed right now
Always good to see patrick norton , good video and good job as always, thank you guys
FreeNas! Yeh!
Thanks!!!
they say its an old dell inspiron . then the specs say its an i5 processor. why didn't they use the computer they said.
Cause theyre full of shit.lol
Don't use WD Green drives. They are not rated for RAID, and while they will work in a software RAID configuration (such as ZFS) they do not sync well together and are prone to sync errors which leads to slower than normal performance at best, and errors and rebuilds at worst. And rebuilds really suck when you have a lot of medium to large drives involved. Even WD's website says not to use Green drives for this type of use. It is just a bad idea.
If you want to go cheap then get some Seagate drives. Otherwise spend the money for some WD Black or Red drives which are made specifically for multi-drive setups.
Patrick, you have the most TV Show voice ever ... it's great :)
this video has the best product placing / advertising ever presented, so natural and not intrusive.
So you have the backend sorted... how about building a frontend using xbmc and steam big picture... its better than anything you can buy :D
My cousin is a test engineer at Intel. They will use perfectly brand new parts for a test station and once that section or whatever is done. They throw em away. Needless to say I got a pile of 3TB WD Reds, a shit ton of Intel SSDs, and a hand full of m.2 drives collection dust in my parts bin. Yes Intel will allow there employees to keep the parts rather than just trashing em.
Isn't using 12GB of drives to get 6GB storage worse than RAID 5? This is more like RAID 0+1 then, eh?
95% talk 5% explaining
All Linux distros are able to be used for file sharing. If you're creating a file server, all you need to do is open a specific list of ports, without the need for all this technical knowledge on setting up a home server.
For hardware info to build your own server out of an old machine. You can check my video about this: ZFS tutorial: How to use older hardware to set up a NAS In this video I go through all parts and give lots of info what you need for ZFS. I also give info about mirror raidz1 raidz2 and how many hdd space you loose in each config.
WD Greens are not good idea to use, specially if you RMA it, WD just rejected my RMA request because they found out that I use it on a NAS machine, read their Warranty Policies.
Now im using WD red instead and you never go wrong about it.
+remle ikawura thanks for this info lol
Hi !! I have a windows 2008 server with two HDD (1tb each) and I would like to make a back up of and specific folder of another computer on the network. Is it possible? In other words I would like to backup different folders of different machines all in this server. And then recover them depending on which computer crashed out! THANKS !!
'username is gonna be Patrick' and I am sitting here thinking WTF this was made for me!!! (My names Patrick)
Never build a NAS on a non-ECC ready PC. NEVER!
Rudde Yeah so ECC memory generates less error when manipulating data right? Is it that important even if my persoonnal NAS will mostly have movies and family photos. My current "NAS" has windows7 x64 installed on it, and I'm planning on installing either freeNas or Nas4free.
Rudde yeah so think it is more important to have ecc memory on nas systems? Cause my pc doesn't have ecc memory (as the majority of pc), and I dont have that mich randomly corrupted files.
If I understand the issue correctly, the problem wit not using ECC is unique to ZFS because of the fact that 1) ZFS calculates hashes for everything... If the data gets corrupted in memory for any reason, the hash gets calculated from the bad data... And 2) ZFS scrubs data periodically, and when it finds the bad hash, it silently FIXES the data to be bad. Over and over again... And more and more data keeps getting "fixed" eventually killing ALL of the data...
Trimble Epic its strength is it's crippling weakness. I think 100% of us would rather have a glitch in a video or a messed up picture than lose 100% of our data. They really need to fix this.
Meh I am a walking legend and have used different size hard drives with non ECC ram. Still running 4 years later.
Call me old fashioned but I still have a thing for JBOD.
Just one question. Can you remote access freenas? Would like to locate my newly built NAS in my server closet with a direct connection to the main router.
COOL !!!!!!!
more info in nearly half the time of twit's.... great
i built a free nas box years ago and found that it was extremely frustrating having to basically reboot the server every time i needed to access it has this improved any?
R Dixon just don’t install on a usb stick. They changed the strategy on boot drives. Use a small ssd and it Will be rock stable
Instead of typing in an IP address into a browser to access the FreeNAS remotely (I'm assuming you can do that), can you somehow set up a sort of domain name instead? Say, you have kids and, instead of having them remember all those numbers, you just have them remember a simple website name, where they're prompted to log into their portion of the drive(s). Is that possible?
And, I'm assuming that, if a user is not granted root access (wheel auxiliary group), they won't be seeing the same interface that a user within the wheel auxiliary group would be seeing. Correct?
Eventually, when I'm older and have kids, I would like for us as a family to have a central home server that my kids can access remotely very simply and efficiently. So, I'm trying to plan all this out now so that, later in life, I won't have to do all the research again. When I'm ready, I can just jump right into setting it all up.
Seeing Patrick Norton brings me back to the old Screen Savers days. Back before Tech TV became G4, and way before G4 became the "cops" network.
Interesting, Question if you have those salvaged HD’s can you add a single drive port to to load music collections, photo collection, books, videos, old but still used programs, and other stuff on to the NAS? I must have 8-9 old salvaged hard drive that I can’t part with.
Nice info, but I'm going to stick with unRaid. No need to worry about losing ALL of your data if another drive fails during a recovery. We know how taxing rebuilding a drive is on the other drives.
I was able to install Free Nas but after remove media and reboot it just sits there saying loading Operating System... what did I do wrong? Not getting to the IP address part. Tried 4 times.
FreeNAS , this thing is totally fucking awesome.
FreeNAS is cool. I had it for a long time. I would however recommend using a HARDWARE RAID controller and NOT using Software RAID. Although SW RAID works, it does corrupt easier.
For a cheap solution, but a HP Microserver. About +- $150. It gives you five SATA ports which can give you up to 16 TB of usable space with 4TB disks.
Hi, I have an old HP Pavilion 061 PC190A-ABA a556x - 3.00 gigahertz Intel Pentium 4, that struggles playing XBMC sometimes. I just got it and it only has 1 gig of ram. Could I take that to my local Tech store and get a modern motherboard and build it from there? Any recommendations? It's an ATX case.
I picked up a Fractal Define 804 case, a Silverstone Strider 500 W Gold Power Supply, a Startech.com PEXSAT34RH RAID Card and a ASRock QC5000-ITX motherboard for a little over $100 today.
I'd like to do a NAS Box with it. From Crucial it says it can support up to 32 GB of RAM. I have yet to get RAM or Hard Drives for it. I'm thinking of using 8 x 6 TB Red drives or at minimum 8 x 4 TB Red drives.
I'm looking for a set up where I can combine the drives into one in a RAID 5 style where I can lose one drive and rebuild the drive set. Also, since drives cost a good amount, I'll only be able to pick up a drive or two at a time over a period of time.
I know it's best to build it all at once, but current money status won't allow it. So is there any setup I can do with the above parts and one that'll allow me to add drives over time (preferably without having to remove all the data on the drives) to increase the size, and one in a RAID 5 style where I can lose a drive and be able to replace it without losing data?
Thanks.
I was wondering if anyone can help me..... I have had a FreeNAS server set up in my office, I've now moved that to my home using the same switch (Netgear ProSAFE GS116E) but when I type in the HTTP:// number my PC which is connected to the PC (which in the office was connected to this network, the only difference is the computers are both plugged straight into the switch instead of into the wall first) the HTTP:number doesn't work, Chrome simply shows me a page which says "This site can't be used.... took too long to respond." So how the heck do I get in? =(
Appreciate any help you guys can send me. =)
Have you got this on Tivo and Roku yet? I really do like show where I can learn something practical rather than just talking heads or have someone read me the latest tech news.
I used NAS4Free on a old celeron dual core and 2.5gb of ddr2 ram with 5 (old, lying around mixed sizes, from 80 to 320) disks in ZFS and 6th 60gb disk is for the OS. And it works very well, also got like 960 gb of storage.. Next year if the NAS survives, im gonna replace those disks with 2-3 new ones.
You do benefit from more disks
Please don't use WD Green. All the green drives I have had (and I have gone through several) die much earlier earlier than any of the other WD Drives. Red is set up for RAID / file server type use, and BLACK I think is for 'server' use, basically full time availability. If you read the Backblaze Blog, they review drives and what they have the best results with. ... Still, great post!
Used an old dell r710 the 6x 3.5 drive. $140 from ebay. Added a zfs flashed controller going for zraid1. Found a good deal on 4tb enterprise sas drives from hgst. Freenas did not like me. Jails just did not want to start. So ubuntu server and added the gui. Set everything up as a NAS for about $500.
Now off to my next project pfsense router on a dell r210 that I got for $55. Also picked up a dell 6248 for $1.
Prices are low for me. I live in texas just down from dell. If I get it on ebay or craigslist it's just a 1 hour drive.
Hey Guys - How are you ! - thank-you for this step by step procedure. Some day i bet this would have helped in a million ways and someone may even have made a living out of it. Well done buddy. Would you be so kind enough to tell me from your pro experiences if you may kind spare me your precious minute please. I am currently shopping to assemble a supercomputer raspberry pi B+ (clustered with about 10 of these boards). Would you know if i can connect about 8 monitors of 22" inch in all ? + can we print documents on our good old printer once everything is up and running ? I don't really see if a DVD/ HDD (external) also plug in the same way. What about virus and antivirus issues !! And to add on to this, the tutorial you have done above is absolutely well done in terms of quality too. Looking fwd to more tutorials buddy, way to go....I appreciate all your help. Cheers buddy, Guru
Glad to see the box in the demo doesn't meet the minimum hardware requirements for FreeNAS. Also there's that fine distinction that 3-4GB of ram is enough for ZFS, but not enough for FreeNAS. You will be running it with prefetch disable, which will hurt performance. Plus the Rule of thumb when sizing ram needs is 1GB per 1TB of usable space.
I thought I could use the same old hardware too. Once you get into this, you will realize that the ZFS file system needs 16GB of ECC ram and really thrives on server-grade hardware. FreeNAS is enterprise-grade stuff. Running it with outdated hardware is really putting your data at risk. Check out the freeNAS forums and you will read all about it. They really need to stop telling people you can use your old junk pc parts.
Wow, you can even backup to CrashPlan! That's pretty nice lol. I love CrashPlan.
Okay guys, I have a Dell Studio 540 and I can't get past the inital boot screen. I get the following error. It hangs at "run_interrupt_driven_hooks still waiting after 60 seconds for xpt_config" What am I doing wrong?
FYI: 192.* are internal network IP subnets. Unless someone manage to login into your network via your router, you're pretty safe. (not saying you should not change your password). I'd be curious if you could use a old MacMini , install Freenas on it.
Guys, count your BSD-powered computers (including FreeNAS) in the bsd-hardware.info/ and bsdstats.org/ to let hardware vendors know that we are many
I ZFS is a filesystem like ext4. Its not a type of raid. I has different raid types it can setup in software however. You keep mentioniong ZFS as if its like raid 5. You are thinking of RaidZ1. ZFS uses a different set of terminologies. If you are making a tech video it makes it less painful for more advanced users. I have my own Freenas box at home with 10TB of space and I absolutely love it. I have enough speed off 7 disks that I can saturate a 1gb/s ethernet line.
I hate to see ignorant IT guys say "Mac" and "PC." A Mac is a Personal Computer. Get past Apple's agenda to brand themselves and contribute to reality. I know my opinion is outside the scope of your video. It's a cool video. Just schooling you tho...
Nowadays its less expensive and much easier to just buy a NAS and load the drives into it than to refurbish an old PC. NAS boxes are smaller and much more efficient. I guess you could refurbish an old PC and use it for an HTPC but new ones are small, inexpensive and use a lot less energy...The only thing an old PC is good for is cannibalizing the cables etc...
hello i have a bit of a time consuming request... build all the different types of Raid 0,1,5,6,10,destroy 1, 2 disks (remove format and replace)in the raid and prove reliability of said arrays or lack there of eg raid 0
Ok, just watched the video about freenas, but what do you actually need hardware wise to build a server and how do you put it together? Do you have a walk through?
I've got an old PC WIN 7 that we no longer use as everyone has laptops ,ipads, smartphones etc.
Thanks
Okay, how does one get the content in the first place? Blu-Ray discs are copy protected, streaming services don't make the content downloadable except within their own specialty app, and although DVD is rippable, it's not exactly HD.
FreeNAS vs OwnCloud ... Which one is better? I know they're different, but I'm looking for the best solution to backup my files and keep'em safe.
After installing NAS on Windows7, will NAS eat up the whole OS or you can easily switch booting from NAS to Win7? Or you need to boot from NAS to Win7 by using a bootable USB?
thanks!
IS the massword actuially "something"
FreeNAS is a great program, but it is not recommended that ZFS ever be used with non parity memory. It is very doubtful that a repurposed Dell Inspirion would have parity memory.
I agree with other comment. It's too simple for advanced users, and too complex for newbies. For example, as far as I know, you first have to create the file system, and later the partitions. Also, about the hard disk, I've read somewhere else that the hard disk should be identical, at least in size. Also, would be nice to see what happens if one of the disk fails, and what one have to do to get it back again. And also, what happens if the computer crash and you have to move the disks to another PC. How to proceed? Would the old data stay there? Do you have to reinstall them in the same order or something? How do one upgrade Freenas if a new release come? I know that I can google and get the answers myself, but I also think it would be great to have a video with some more information, and professional advice about what and what not to do. I hope you find it interesting too! Thank you!
Did you guys use ECC memory? That's what's keeping me from going freenas? What are your opinions on freenas without ECC memory?
Why not just configure a RAID and shate it to everyone in the home LAN... even it can be shown as if it was a local drive. I dont understand why FreeNAS software helps?
Why on earth would you use freeNAS. The original developer has sold that to a corporation and restarted from scratch on openmediavault. The company stripped out a lot of the features of freenas when it went all corporate-y. Please inform the public of the best and most solid free-nas-OS: openmediavault
you two are cute together. thanks for the video!
Yea cute...ass.lol
Seriously, this goes live right after I spend the weekend setting up my microserver with WHS 2011. BAH!
Can I access the files I share through FreeNas in an Android TV Box? Is there a certain app for that maybe..? Thanks for the vid!
is it better to install freenas on a usb stick and have in the computer at all times?
Hi, can anyone help me figure out how to remotely see my cifs shares?
I use pled for media but would like to be able to read my books on the go.
freenas 9.2.1.6
Can I use my storage hard drives for this? Can I rescue my data from current drives. They stopped working after moving managed to get all but two working by removing from the cases and putting them into my computer but have run out of power and sata ports on motherhood
FYI and a word to the wise, the average home tower has a set number of racks used for various devices other than just hard drives like card readers, audio devices, dvd burners, but when you run a single drive, the hard drive get a bit warmer than your own body temp, but if you stack one hard drive on top of the other and all it takes is two, they get super hot and the more you stack, the hotter they get and this is the real reason people need hard drive coolers and if you can manage to find a way to separate them like only using every other bay you're just fine and you wont need to spend the money for coolers, but avoid screwing them down using the four screw holes on the bottom because again, they can't breathe and if you run them hot, their lifespan is heavily shortened! Check me if I'm wrong, but if you feel them getting hot, separate them!
way over my head.but I will keep this in mind I do have an old computer with 53 250gb hard and 2 160 gb hd so one day I will try this
Thats a nice idea to recycle an old pc for settings up a 24/7 NAS but please keep in mind that it will use more watts for operating than a new minimal ATOM system would.
Just pull the multiplier and voltage down. And make the drives spin down after 15 minutes. Fan profiles can also help. That should be rather economical and schouldn't cost much more to run. Not enough to justify buying new parts. You could even set up wol to only let it only run when people are actually home.
here's a more in depth look inside FreeNAS that just aired on BSD Now th-cam.com/video/sfi6JB20zAE/w-d-xo.htmlm2s
hi i have a question i basically have a usb 3.0 on the back of my modem and i have a external 3tb hard drive and i was wondering how to set it up so all my computers on my network can storage files and other computers can access the data without downloading the files into them, kinda like a streaming share media server hope i can get to notice me thank you
I think this will waste money , electricity , and after one month of 24/7 you will have to
change the motherboard or the cpu .
Holy shit! A tech show that actually shows you how to do something! Awesome job Patrick. Where can I throw money at you?
Check out NAS4Free which is a fork of FreeNAS, but which can run on much more modest hardware than FreeNAS needs.
Yea it's in iTunes now too! Just in time for the holidays, yes! Kids on iPad Barney and dad with DIY to drive to gram's.
xburner is better to burn it to a disk because it makes sure that the files don't get viruses when burning normal pc burning systems aren't recommended i turned my one old hp laptop in to a live media server cloud which i use xburner to burn files to disk
Great video and Diy Trying is a great name. Thanks
Funny you said plex and my eyes open wide..lol. then you said you should be excited. Lol......
This is awesome...
Would NAS work on a 18 year old dell 2400 server with 2 gig ram and 2 1gig processors
Or for that Matter Mabey Turn it into a server cause that's what i wanna Do but i don't have a Cord for it to have a Monitor Yet But i'm not going to untill i know it will work. for that.
Hello I looked on TH-cam to see if anyone had a video ok n show to build a thunderbolt atrch storage or any attach storage using a 4 u rack. so far nothing. can you guys work on that idea. or give a walk through on what to use to build a thunderbolt attach storage rack
I have a folder on my computer labeled 'X' too, but it's not family friendly videos...
DAMN!!!! That was an AWESOME video guys. Seriously.
Im here because of Patrick Norton... always great to see him on TV/Internet/etc.
Wow Patrick....can you fall any farther?
Do you know if it is Possible to Do something Similar with one of these? prisma media center..?
Guys I have one TV cable coming down from the roof I wonder if I could connect it somehow without wiring to the other new TVs in the house rooms ?
You do not even show to contruct and install the drive! Only explain how to set up the interface. 👎👎
Didn't work for me, says my ip is "0.0.0.0" which even i know isn't right.
Can you make a freeNAS with a raspberry pi
Can you use external USB hard drives ?
Like, I want my laptop to be open 24/7 as it's quite and small enough to fit in a drawer and just leave it the with the hard drives.
Also can you use WiFi or should it be connected to my router ?
Thanks in advance!
+lennonSystems You could, but you will be limited to USB speeds then.
I also would not suggest using a laptop.
Yes you can work over WiFi, but for best performance it's better to used an Ethernet (wired) connection, as WiFi speeds are a lot slower compared to Ethernet and they drop if more devices join the same network.
You'd be better off with a simple computer (even without case), connecting the drives to the actual cables (e.g. SATA). With a simple fan, you can cool the pc (which won't heat up that much) and keep dust from nesting.
You could mount all your hardware on a wooden plate the size of your drawer, to prevent it from moving while running if you open the drawer. Make a small hole in the back of the drawer and put install your fan there.
+Paperclown it's depends on how many clients that you use the server at once. If you use many computer at once on steam game, you probably will get a slow loading speed. You can use raid controller to speed up the read speed. And you should also uses ethernet cable 5e or 6.
For a change you guys used a PC. How come no Raspberry Nas solution?
Can you make a freenas video a little more in depth on what a user can configure in the freenas box. please
Too boot off a USB Copy your boot file and put it on the usb, then restart and edit the bios to load the pc files from the usb.