Hyperloop designers: "What used to take 2hrs to travel will take 12min." Average human follow-up logic: "Cool, now I can live even farther away so that my travel time will still take 2hrs."
@@prudenciomangaoangiii403 well of course that's human nature!- which further enhances technology to improve, without the complaint though would anything get done?(no motivation to improve the experience- isn't this the reason for high speed rail anyhow as you sit in your car watching the other lane cars pass you, you get to think that there has to be a better way... and no its not getting in the left lane which will slow down at some point and the cars you were behind are now passing you in your new faster lane- ugh!!!)
That's a good point. I wouldn't want to live in the city, especially with rising housing prices, if I could live further away and still get to work in the same amount of time it used to take.
Nothing wrong with that! Take Denver for example. Trying living intown and the housing market is easily 500k for a 2 bedroom 1000sqft condo. Small bungalow houses (same sq footage, approx 1000sqft) in intown Denver neighborhoods are 675k to 1.5 m. It's almost impossible to live there. Even in smaller towns/suburban areas of metro Denver are thru the roof. If you could live in Wyoming and get a bigger house for 150k-200k and could commute to Denver in 12 mins, that works for some people. Not that want to live in Wyoming so maybe not the best example but you get my point...maybe?
That's a nice idea, then quit work at 16:00 and go to your 2nd appartment where you arrive at 11:00 because it's in a different timezone and you basically have a day off. Only problem is everyone is going to be bald when the hair grows in the opposite direction during timetravel.
I work by home for a company in another timezone. In my case I have to get up one hour earlier than the rest of the people to start working at the same time 🙁
Some showstoppers: 1) Thermal expansion/contraction of tubes. 2) Compensate long range earth surface movement. 3) Getting people out a tube once a shuttle has trouble. 4) Oxygen supply and safety tank in case shuttle is midway two stations and stuck. 5) pressure build-up inside passenger compartment due to breathing passengers. 6) Air shock-waves through long tubes 7) Condensed water removal at cold spots, which prevents to achieve vacuum. 8) Volatile removal (grease/oil/solvents) 9) deterioration of sealings. 10) Vacuum pump maintenance.
Musk is great because he encourages other people to build on his idea, rather than trying to keep it all for his own glory. Need many more people like that if we want to progress as a society ( we do live in a society ).
His willingness to give away the idea is to be paired and we certainly need more people like that. But hyperloop is a non starter, it replicates all the problems with space travel for hundreds of times the cost and convenience of a train
@@Bchan l *EXAAACTLY ..this sucker is reaaaally good in selling BS and make anybody hop on the BS phantasy train, when it even comes to give money for the BS phantasy. He actually sucks more then you might realize ..lol*
Oh please. Yeah Musk is not about personal glory. What a crock. Is that why he renamed a 100-year-old plus idea as his own? The Hyperloop is pure snake oil.
The first mistake is giving Elon the inventor's title for this idea. Travelling in a module through low pressure tubes has been conceptualized and discussed for almost a 100 years now. It's just been given a new name. Second mistake: Assuming that it will be reality anytime in the near future.
Exactly, Musk is just a sociopath and massive BSer that hasn't invented anything. As in, he hasn't even invented stealing from Nikola Tesla... The only thing Musk is good at is deceptive marketing at a massive scale. Luckily the facts are catching up with him... he's lost yet another court case for deceiving tesla customers just the other day.
Third mistake: not just building high-speed rail which has existed for over 50 years and is far cheaper, far more efficient, and far easier to maintain than hyperloop
You mean the bugs are worked out and massive deaths are eliminated. No other form of high speed travel has been free of human screwups and the Hyperloop will be no exception.
at high speeds, would any irrecularities /warping /bumps in the straightness of the rail, be more pronounced? I worry that the pod could bump or lift off the rail or smash against the sides of the tube. But Ive not really studied engineering - I suppose the mag -lev could account for movement or self stabalise? i wonder how fast a train on rails can go? rails look precarious but they seem to have been ok so far.
@@katzunjammer on rails a train has gone 360mph on a TEST but, if your looking to take a high-speed train in Europe or Asia then they only go around 220
Hyperloop will never in the history of mankind become a thing. A long vacuum tube will forever be deadly. Even if we become a galactic species it will still not gonna be a thing. Elon Musk is scamming millions of idiots.
Because it’s become obvious all these startups were just selling vaporware to investors with no real understanding of the engineering. This is evidenced by all these companies failing and never presenting any concrete ideas for who all the problems with this approach could be overcome.
"Theoretically, a sudden influx of air into one of the tubes would simply slow the pods down" Yes, from 750 miles per hour to 200 miles per hour in the blink of an eye, equal to hitting a solid concrete wall at 550mph. Not only would no one survive, deciding which heads, limbs and internal organs belonged to which passenger would be a nightmare ;p
Johnny Joseph lol. Let’s hope that that was the PR stunt to get the press and the product is real and do-able.....after this pandemic world we are living in. I can only wish that this plants the seed of a new world if people become angry...... I can dream can’t I?😌
Wow...I just jumped here to see what kind of ppl would support a mass ban of channels in a FREE SPEECH country, but this comment wow......I feel sorry for how stupid you are. I cant even be mad at this point.
@@timberwolfe1645 He's the kind of fabulously rich people we need, not creeps who want to remake the world based on their personal view of Utopia, like Zuckerberg or Bill Gates or George Soros or Bezos or Dorsey, numbnuts who think telling people how to live their lives is their personal business.
A very informative video update! I worked for the Rand Corporation 1980-86. Attended class in Princeton N.J. for three months each year. They developed the underground tube-shuttle system still in operation today connecting the underground military bases around the world. Thank You for Your work.
The time lapse of the airport towards the end of the video is quite interesting as the incoming flights have little deviation in path. That's a subtle yet awesome reminder of computer assistance and its role in transportation.
the idea was not "first conceived by Musk", the first actual functional hyperloop was build in 1872 by Alred Beach. It was called the Beach Pneumatic Transit.
Also in New York, I believe, they had a vacuum sucked Victorian underground train that sucked people through a tunnel from here to...there. Maybe I am thinking of the same thing, I just don't have anything but a childhood memory hearing about it. The part I recall is the luxurious train compartment, Pullman style.
@@paulaharrisbaca4851 It was a demonstration tunnel that went about a block, then came back. Neat idea - but it wasn't hyperloop. The car (I think there was only one carriage, not a train) didn't operate in a hard vacuum, but instead acted as a piston. The station would increase or decrease the air pressure in the tunnel to push or pull the car. NYC didn't go for it. The tunnel was sealed up, rediscovered, and then demolished. The scene in Ghostbusters II where they broke into it was actually City Hall Station, I believe, which is funny since City Hall Station is where the old tunnel originally was.
It's been three years now and not a lot of progress with the hyperloop and with the underwhelming failure of the Vegas loop, this transportation concept now seems more like a hype that would not get any results while China and Japan have made a lot of their goals in maglev trains that can now reach to up to 600km/h.
It's quite upsetting, given the quality of B1M's content that they gave HyperLoop this sort of press without dealving into the feasibility of the project. The concept is certainly physically possible, that is not in doubt, the problem is, is it feasible over any serious/useful distances without serious roadblocks what would explode its cost to build and maintain. Just consider the challenge of maintaining and creating the vacuum over such distances, let alone if the vacuum fails during use. At speed such a failure would mean insta-death for anyone inside one of these pods. As for the likely-hood of such failure, the longer the tube the greater the failure risk. For one, a pressurized tube in the vacuum of space is nothing compared to a vacuum under the pressure of the atmosphere.
The video covered the possibility of vacuum failure, and I was satisfied with Virgin's explanation that it would just slow down the train, not result in "insta-death for anyone inside". But I do agree that the video ignored the energy costs of maintaining vacuum when talking about how little energy the loops would actually use for _propulsion._ When it comes to the "insta-death" thing, I was a lot more worried about the possibility of someone crashing into a tube and then the train colliding with the break. However, it seems like the raised, seismically engineered supports should reduce that risk down to pretty much just intentional terrorism (or acts of war), and not normal accidents.
I have more problem with the lack of research about giving proper credit for the concept. This isn't Musk's concept. The video is a fail from the start.
@@gabbar51ngh still isn't feasible. If you ever worked with vacuum equipment you'd know what a fucking hurdle it is to keep even a small vacuum chamber under low pressure for an extended amount of time.
Having viewed a few videos I made an honest mistake taking this channel as having some serious engineering background, so I subscribed. That says more about me, than it says about the channel. Correcting my mistake after viewing this masterpiece. Hope I have learned something! :D
It's surprisingly easy to present bullshit with the same kind of legitimacy as proper content. This is how investors fall for scams like this in the first place.
But not everywhere. The govt is doing a lot!! Only the people are not cooperating. The people are driving harsh and when the roads are becoming bad, they're complaining. Being an Indian, I feel that we needn't always need to put India down, sometimes we really need to look towards ourselves!!!
No, France is not building any hyperloops. In fact, no one is building hyperloops, it's all a scam. but France _does_ build high-sped rail lines, as well as subways and light rail lines, and is upgrading its existing rail infrastructure, all of which is sensible and stuff the US would do well to copy.
I always had nightmares of this from when I was a kid. Trapped in a super high speed tube with dead eyed people who look like they are brain dead and I was the only one who was aware of what was happening.
I'd be afraid to ride on it, coming up to a wall, and the thing won't slow down, and with airplane force power slam into the concrete and destroy everything. Yeah, it seems a little unsafe considering it can leak and the pressurization suddenly drops while a train is going.
I love that picture at 1:19 "Hey, is there a reason why they buildt the Golden Gate Bridge with such a high clearance?" "Cant think of one. Lets build our own bridge right next to it, much closer to the surface." Such things do not make me confident in the thought process behind all this.
solution to said problem: 1. do the thing underwater, near the riverbed 2. attach it to the bridge (load and stress, etc. withstanding) 3. build more bridge 4. another route 5. ancient elven sex magick rituals. stop being a negative nelly, it says "concept" on the cover and the whole piece was probably meant to contrast the old with the new. go tranq some mares and have your way with them. you really had that last one coming with the name tho.
Correction : At 8:42, the map of India shows a connection between Mumbai and Delhi. Besides the fact that Delhi is misspelt, the bigger mistake is that the cities have been interchanged. The one more up north is Delhi and the one towards the south is Mumbai.
Anirudh Nair. What do you expect from a nation that dumb down the students to a degree when they can’t even pinpoint India on a map, some not even their own country. A nation full of people believing the world is 6000 years and on top of everything a mentally ill leader.
I remember watching a show called 'Extreme Engineering' on the History Channel about this- long before you say Musk 'came up with' this... they had a magnet train in a vacuum tunnel from NYC to London taking about an hour.
1:33 I hope whoever made that picture is not in charge of design. There is a reason the golden gate bridge is built the way it is. The bridge in the picture would shut down one of the worlds biggest ports.
@@johndexter8487 I cant tell if this is sarcastic or not. I will answer as if its not. The Golden Gate is a straight that connects the pacific ocean with the bay of San Francisco. The bridge is named after the straight. That straight sees a huge percentage of he total US market in imported and exported goods. The Port of Oakland alone is the fifth busiest container port in the United States. Thus the bridge was built as tall as it is to accommodate the worlds largest ships. The concrete structure in the picture would clearly block the main channel and the large ships would no longer be able to pass.
@@jobowobo6700 You could've just said that the Hyperloop is too short to allow ships to pass under it. This is why people don't listen to science types.
The reason amtrak can't do anything, is because of cooperate shills like Elon, who does their best to get rid of public transit for their own monetary gain.
Lol, "Virgin Hyperloop One are on track to achieve their bold ambition of bringing a hyperloop system into operation by 2021." It's 2022 now. Where are they?
@@mustafa.bakes. the original idea was drawn up in like the 1800's with those drawings it showed a fan at the front of the vehicle and basically everythink ispracterly the same justit was impossible to build then.. Just like currently the hyperloop will never really come into existence.. Its to expensive unpractical every hyperloop tube aswell is a tiny prototype along with the proto type trains tht go in them, plus the fastest they're ever gotten people traveling in, is as fast as a bullet train and only rather briefly becuz there are only short tubes as it is even then tht longest one i'm sure i heard cost like a billion dollors or somthink stupid... Its a wonderful idea and i hope i'm wrong and they actually get it to work... But doubt it we havnt got the technology to even create a hyperloop system going from 1 city to another. But i hope i'm wrong
Only a dozen each run? How can it compete with even flight? The magnet rail and vacuum tube will cost times more than traditional HSR. 10 times more than normal train. And 1/20 of overall throughput. Unless it charges 5times flight ticket price, it won't even cover operating cost.
*_"Hyperloop was first conceived in 2012 by Elon Musk"_* No it wasn't. The "Hyperloop" _brand_ might have been but the original concept of transporting people this way goes back to the early 1970s.
@@o.b.9781 Maybe so but it's a stunt. The numbers simply don't stack up. There's no way these things will ever be cost competitive with conventional rail or flying. A vacuum tube is good for moving cash around a shop but not much good for people.
The original concept was first patented in 1799 in Britain - so Musk's claim that he invented the concept is beyond absurd. It's never been built because the engineering will be extraordinarily challenging and expensive and the safety issues are virtually insurmountable. This will never be economically viable - it's in the same category as personal rocket packs and flying cars.
When I was younger, I asked my dad why those pipelines (they're for hot water for heating here) have those big U turns that seemed to be useless. He explained to me, that due to temperature changes the metal tubes extend and getting longer. To prevent anything from breaking, these U turns give the tubes the ability to bend a little and not cause demage at where they are ending. How does Hyperloop deal with that, cause to me looks like the exact same problem?
i noticed that all the cities appear to be relatively the same longitude... wondered about temperature fluctuations, then wondered what they're going to do about global warming... and EARTHQUAKES. We didn't used to live in an earthquake zone, but since they've been fracking the CRAP out of the ground not far from us, our doorways all have massive cracks in them from the earthquakes that we just KEEP HAVING, and then they move the fracking to a better site(closer to someone elses house, lol- spread that "wealth"). Possibly, he thinks that he couldn't possibly be standing in the way of anything else necessary happening... but if they find oil under that thing, it'll be tinkertoy time. He DID just decide to start a plant in Austin, and then they had riots, lol.
They could stick a smaller pipe into a bigger pipe with a movable seal in between. Just to add another maintenance/failure point. Mind you, as this thing will never actually get build we may as well skip these practical problems and just enjoy the hype.. :-p
zapfanzapfan ... we do have very large hi-res Displays now,... how about the Grand Canyon on-screen while you Travel.... or you could take a nap... play a game... do some reading, office work... pls think smarter.
Is that a pun?..."a bit boring" ... seems pretty punny to me :/ (given that musk's other company is the Boring company...and it will likely use plain old boring bits).
zapfanzapfan keep in mind that even in airplanes there are plans to have only screens on the walls, no windows. Just search on that and you'll find what I'm talking about. And can we please stop using "Google" in place of search, it's just Yahoo search, Bing search, Altavista search whatever but not "Google it", sounds stupid, since Google just stole the idea about googol and googolplex, it's just a number, it's not a verb, it's a number. Just another stupid lynguistics trick on the masses to create more publicity for their company. I mean what's next, alphabet, alphabet that? That's stupid too.
@@blackgold2589 yeah and failing completely, it has had MASSIVE BACKING like in the billion of dollars in investment and they have barely got a Maglev speed , by this time they could have build a maglev in USA and it would have been just as fast as the last test Besides, keeping such a massive structure at vacuum... it’s just nearly impossible
Funny how every idea has to come from Elon Musk now. I remember them talking about this in the 70's, as if we would have it by 2000 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_tunnel#Vactrain
Just wondering how much energy it would take to decompress a tube, and would it have to be done in a regular basis 🤔 tl;dr: what's the real energy consumption here?
@@youngeshmoney and only if it doesn't start leaking. Chances of it working are low and if it works the small carriages will make it too expensive for the regular Joe.
The "Hyperloop" has been debunked. It is probably the best example of Elon Musk's incredible talent for proposing meritless ideas and preying on the gullibility of the media and general public. It is astonishing how many people believe he is a genius solely because the mainstream media tells them he is. Also, a correction to your video: Elon Musk is not a founder of Tesla. It was founded in July 2003 by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning as Tesla Motors.
No matter the value you put to the word founder, he is business terminology, considered a co-founder of Tesla Motors. This is due to the company existing only on paper, without a prototype to show off, when he was approached, and put up the lionshare of funding, after being turned down by all regular car manufacturers, with some not even thinking Eberhart and Tarpenning was worth an answer to their requst for a meeting. In terminology all shareholders, that made the production of a prototype to base the companys business model on, are to be considered co-founders. With whoever came up with the idea, given the title of Original Founders and co-founders. Also hyperloop is not really debunked, the proop of concept worked. It however also showed that scaling it for business purposes, is currently not technologically viable. Just like landing orbital boosters was it in the late 60s and early 70s. With SpaceX being first to do the task, and now RocketLab comming inreasingly close.
@@Mrpersonman0 The "hyperloop" doesn't exist. It is in development at the moment and is showing absolutely no substantive progress due to many MANY engineering challenges that have been known about for a very long time. A train in a depressurised tube is a 200 year old idea with the first commercial line being opened in the mid 1800s.
Still, how is this supposed to work in practice? There has to be at least two "loops" at each destination since you can only travel at one direction for each loop. Then how many can actually fit inside one of the pods, and how many pods can you use at the same time without the risk of crashing into each other? How will they turn the pods around into the opposite direction without blocking the incoming tubes? How can you really made this efficient for the masses? Would it perhaps be more efficient with an actual loop? With no need to turn around since there won't be any end to the loop, it just goes around and around.
I started working in NY 200 years back when we made houses at Rock Central, IM SO HAPPY WE DIDNT cancel the PROJECT. I never thought I would see it finished in my life time- then again, I may no
I have Popular Science magazines (might be Mechanix Illustrated magazines) dating in the 1950s that were promising this sort of technology and I am still waiting... I hope it comes true but but i am pretty sceptical that it will be done in my lifetime. Environmental concerns, expensive land acquisition in urban areas and pressure from cheap priced airlines are pretty tough obstacles to overcome.
Evacuated tunnel ideas have returned several times already, yes. And while it's hard to say for sure if this time will be different from previous times, at the least each next time our technologies are more capable. So there the base principle of energy cost to move the 'train' through an evacuated tunnel is true. And thus in theory should allow for cheaper prices, so long as infrastructure costs aren't to excessive. The question becomes, can modern technology make the required infrastructure to run this system at a price point that doesn't destroy the cost savings gained for moving objects through an evacuated tunnel. Sadly we'll just have to wait and see if current technology can do it. The number of projects on it going on right now does make this seem like a pretty serious effort at making it work this time around. So perhaps some companies/engineers think it might be feasible this time.
If it's a futuristic thing depicted in Popular Science, Popular Mechanics or Mechanix Illustrated, it's almost a sure bet that it will never happen. Hahahaha!
Maybe Zoom video conference style tech, will overcome Hyperloop xportation, because the majority of people will be working from home, making it unnecessary..
Just to clarify The Dubai Abu Dhabi route Will be the first hyperloop route in the world Construction is estimated to begin between 2019-2020 The uae government already has prepared 7.5 billion usd for the project Edit To all the replies The uae government owns half of hyperloop one So it's kinda obvious that they be the first to implement the technology
And what will they use as devices? There are not even prototypes available. You want go from nothing to a working device which is tested in 2 years? Great idea. They test the next generation of light rail for Berlin for two years and that is not a completely new technology.
Reiner Jung wow, I didn't know people like you existed. What, do you only watch 1950's movies, read comic books, and play 20th century video games? Are you not intellectually curious in the least? How could you know none of this?
The Hyperloop technology is the one our world needs. In a globalizing and industrializing world like ours, we need to cut down the time we Need to go from A to B and the time our goods need from Production to our your home. Being able to travel from Germany to China in less than 5 hours or from Los Angeles to New York in less that 3 Hours not only brings us closer but gives us more time to be at a place instead of travel to a place.
The best thing about Hyperloop is that it's already obsolete. We already have maglev trains capable of carrying a thousand people going at speeds of almost 400 MPH.
maglev is not a successful technology, it's more of a dick-shaking (a combination of dick-measuring and saber-rattling) contest "look at what we have" - Germany, Japan and China have it, but it's completely uneconomical to operate - Bristol Brabazon, BEA/Air France Concord or the Tu-144 are an example of such from the past - but they don't stand anywhere near the orders of magnitude of (unwarranted) expenditures for maglev. Whenever I can I try to vote against such projects and for expansion of the normal public transportation to the smaller cities and villages, because public transportation and public services is what makes a country great, not some space launches, nuclear missiles or magnetically-suspended trains that nobody uses.
@@IvanDmitriev1 My guess you never went to Shanghai in 7 minutes 20 seconds for 30.5 km from inner city to airport at 431 kmh. But on the costs and profitability of Maglev and Concord you are correct. TGV and Shinkansen bullet trains are better, transport more people on one ride and are easier to implement on rails than Maglevs on magnetic rails.
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The sad thing about this is that in 10 years TH-cam will suggest this video again and It will still then be in planning.. and is only in test somewhere in in the world
It's even older than that. Systems using vacuum tubes have been used in large buildings to transport documents and other small items from one department to another for years!
I am an Indian, ❤ your video help me to understand the technology of hyperloop easily , BUT i have a request that , on 8:37 in India's map the 2 points shows namely as DELHI and MUMBAI are exchanges their places 😅 , so please take a look at it .
@@pennywagner8487 A constant stream of pods means a constant stream of lost vacuum in those air locks. So, yeah, it will be very expensive to keep such a vacuum in place... if they could ever even achieve it... which is pretty dubious.
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Me posing questions: A) if there's a serious problem in the way, you're trapped in the vacuum tube, how do you get out? B) have you done the Math of how much energy you need to create a vacuum on such a big quantity of volume? I did, and it's enormous! And you'll have leaks on the joints.
I wonder about that too. Every transportation system has breakdowns, and people in NY's subway system have grown accustomed to endless waits or walks between stations. What happens when a hyperloop pod breaks down? Since there must be many pods in the tube at once in order to carry enough customers to make economic sense, there will be a big backup. So you just keep everybody there? Or you let air into the tube so people can walk out? Out to where? There would have to be escape areas at pretty frequent intervals to let everybody get back to the real world. And these escape areas themselves would have to have some sort of transportation connections. These and other safety considerations get very expensive, making an already economically doubtful system prohibitively expensive.
If you think about it for just a few minutes, there are endless problems. How do you get in and out of the pod? Each tube can only be one way of travel or have one pod in it. As you say, the power needed to create a meaningful vacuum is colossal. How strong will these tubes need to be? That will be expensive. Leaks, damage and environmental change, all problems.
no it would not, its all a scam.. here you go: th-cam.com/video/RNFesa01llk/w-d-xo.html and yeah if your not very smart that video will probably hurt your brain!.
@@meanvecktor1900 Aww, what's wrong, don't like it when someone tells you that a scam is a scam? This will never happen. It's dangerous, impractical, and ridiculously expensive.
The maglev train is scheduled to begin commercial operations between Tokyo and Nagoya around 2030. It has taken nearly 70 years since Japanese national railway started the research. I think Hyperloop may also take almost same decades of Japanese maglev train to begin commercial operations.
The maglev has already fixed the problem of levitation and propulsion for the hyperloop, and I think the tupes have fixed the problem of air pressure. It won't take as long as you think now, Elon's original idea of levitation would have though.
Gotta love the "hurry up and go advanced security checks." If you are wondering why its so vague its because its pure bull based on nothing. Same as having this in"the very near future."
Travel time: 15 min
Boarding security control: 1.5 hour
😂😂
@@mrxx7471 Why thanks muslims?
@@mrxx7471 but why muslims?
Right
Mrx x I think you mean terrorists because what you said is racist
Hyperloop designers: "What used to take 2hrs to travel will take 12min."
Average human follow-up logic: "Cool, now I can live even farther away so that my travel time will still take 2hrs."
Then complain lol
@@prudenciomangaoangiii403 well of course that's human nature!- which further enhances technology to improve, without the complaint though would anything get done?(no motivation to improve the experience- isn't this the reason for high speed rail anyhow as you sit in your car watching the other lane cars pass you, you get to think that there has to be a better way... and no its not getting in the left lane which will slow down at some point and the cars you were behind are now passing you in your new faster lane- ugh!!!)
@@mitchkatz4918 trust me idk why tf i said that
That's a good point. I wouldn't want to live in the city, especially with rising housing prices, if I could live further away and still get to work in the same amount of time it used to take.
Nothing wrong with that! Take Denver for example. Trying living intown and the housing market is easily 500k for a 2 bedroom 1000sqft condo. Small bungalow houses (same sq footage, approx 1000sqft) in intown Denver neighborhoods are 675k to 1.5 m. It's almost impossible to live there. Even in smaller towns/suburban areas of metro Denver are thru the roof. If you could live in Wyoming and get a bigger house for 150k-200k and could commute to Denver in 12 mins, that works for some people.
Not that want to live in Wyoming so maybe not the best example but you get my point...maybe?
Imagine getting up at 8 and starting work at 7.30 because you work in a different time zone😂
That's a nice idea, then quit work at 16:00 and go to your 2nd appartment where you arrive at 11:00 because it's in a different timezone and you basically have a day off. Only problem is everyone is going to be bald when the hair grows in the opposite direction during timetravel.
Then leave the office at 6pm, arrive home at 7:30pm.....ohhhh noooo....
We will need new time system 😁
THAT WOULD BE AMAZING
I work by home for a company in another timezone. In my case I have to get up one hour earlier than the rest of the people to start working at the same time 🙁
Some showstoppers: 1) Thermal expansion/contraction of tubes. 2) Compensate long range earth surface movement. 3) Getting people out a tube once a shuttle has trouble. 4) Oxygen supply and safety tank in case shuttle is midway two stations and stuck. 5) pressure build-up inside passenger compartment due to breathing passengers. 6) Air shock-waves through long tubes 7) Condensed water removal at cold spots, which prevents to achieve vacuum. 8) Volatile removal (grease/oil/solvents) 9) deterioration of sealings. 10) Vacuum pump maintenance.
Hyeprloop is the real world equivalent of Minecraft Ice-Boat transport
Zsombor Nagy. Hyperloop is pure fantasy. In contrast, the Shinkansen uses ancient technology.
@@TheKaiTetley r/woooosh
Hyperloop is not just imagination, but its not build yet.
@@cantinadudes Hurr durr. Elon Musk is a genius. Hurrrr.
you must really not play minecraft
More like elytra with fireworks
Musk is great because he encourages other people to build on his idea, rather than trying to keep it all for his own glory. Need many more people like that if we want to progress as a society ( we do live in a society ).
His willingness to give away the idea is to be paired and we certainly need more people like that. But hyperloop is a non starter, it replicates all the problems with space travel for hundreds of times the cost and convenience of a train
He's just living in 3020 not in 2020
So he won't have the shame of failing this practically impossible project
@@Bchan l *EXAAACTLY ..this sucker is reaaaally good in selling BS and make anybody hop on the BS phantasy train, when it even comes to give money for the BS phantasy. He actually sucks more then you might realize ..lol*
Oh please. Yeah Musk is not about personal glory. What a crock. Is that why he renamed a 100-year-old plus idea as his own? The Hyperloop is pure snake oil.
Musk has a name for it -- HYPErloop. His alternative name was VAPORloop but he felt that was too obvious.
The first mistake is giving Elon the inventor's title for this idea. Travelling in a module through low pressure tubes has been conceptualized and discussed for almost a 100 years now. It's just been given a new name.
Second mistake: Assuming that it will be reality anytime in the near future.
Korea already has successfully tested a prototype at 1100km/h; Search word: 아진공
L'Aérotrain - L'Hyperloop français avant le TGV
@@aabb-zz9uw I don't believe it
Exactly, Musk is just a sociopath and massive BSer that hasn't invented anything.
As in, he hasn't even invented stealing from Nikola Tesla...
The only thing Musk is good at is deceptive marketing at a massive scale. Luckily the facts are catching up with him... he's lost yet another court case for deceiving tesla customers just the other day.
Third mistake: not just building high-speed rail which has existed for over 50 years and is far cheaper, far more efficient, and far easier to maintain than hyperloop
Well, I hope these things are complete and functioning before I die.
You mean the bugs are worked out and massive deaths are eliminated. No other form of high speed travel has been free of human screwups and the Hyperloop will be no exception.
Virgin is starting to build in West Virginia (which seriously lacks infrastructure) in 2022.
at high speeds, would any irrecularities /warping /bumps in the straightness of the rail, be more pronounced? I worry that the pod could bump or lift off the rail or smash against the sides of the tube. But Ive not really studied engineering - I suppose the mag -lev could account for movement or self stabalise? i wonder how fast a train on rails can go? rails look precarious but they seem to have been ok so far.
@@katzunjammer the pod is a maglev which means it hovers over the rail
@@katzunjammer on rails a train has gone 360mph on a TEST but, if your looking to take a high-speed train in Europe or Asia then they only go around 220
and two and a half years later, has Hyperloop shown to be simply hype?
"We have a hyperloop at home"
The hyperloop at home: Teslas in tunnels
yeah. it was just like the maglev and shit a few decades ago.
Hyperloop will never in the history of mankind become a thing. A long vacuum tube will forever be deadly. Even if we become a galactic species it will still not gonna be a thing. Elon Musk is scamming millions of idiots.
Yes it is just a fantasy to suck money out of stupid investors. If anyone actually checked the physics they would realize this is complete bullshit.
yep
I am telling you, once humans will get used to it, they will feel 15 minutes too long.
Lmao
If it ever becomes real
I mean I could watch a TH-cam video in that time
It won’t happen because the cost of the ride will be too much
@@Sequel7 It would be far cheaper then Air travel. Fuel cost will be very low. Due to low resistance and friction.
this video aged like milk
Sour
WHY
Because it’s become obvious all these startups were just selling vaporware to investors with no real understanding of the engineering. This is evidenced by all these companies failing and never presenting any concrete ideas for who all the problems with this approach could be overcome.
@@christopheraleman3507elon musk is lie
Yeah, it's pretty "Cheesy."
Born too late to explore our world,
Born too early to explore our galaxy.
Like that phrase.
Born perfectly to watch humans become multi-planet civilization ...
Exactly how I feel
JK_Boy11 born at the perfect time to witness the world change drastically...
@@modelrc9500 Born at the perfect time to try and help change the world drastically...
After all these years cj couldnt catch the damn train, but now we have this
follow the hyperloop CJ :P
Is that GTA SA reference?
@@version365 Yes :D follow the train CJ
Roses are red
My daddy is a dj
All you have to do
Was follow the damn hyperloop CJ
all you had to do
use first for cargo, then perfect it, until it is undoubtedly safe for people to travel on
Literally the most logical take on this whole concept
thankyou
Like we did with horses? And cars? And airplanes? And spacecraft? How safe does it have to be before I get to ride it?
@@alexandermckenzie5077 Safe enough so people won't complain to the media and shut down the entire HyperLoop system.
Excellent idea!!! More money in cargo too.
People here are actually treated as Cargo:P
"Theoretically, a sudden influx of air into one of the tubes would simply slow the pods down"
Yes, from 750 miles per hour to 200 miles per hour in the blink of an eye, equal to hitting a solid concrete wall at 550mph.
Not only would no one survive, deciding which heads, limbs and internal organs belonged to which passenger would be a nightmare ;p
The pax would become a homogenised paste. Tasty!
"tubes that are extremely difficult to puncture or break"
I sure hope they ain't using the same shit that oil companies have been.
No think cybertruck steel.
@@leedart think cybertruck windows
Johnny Joseph lol. Let’s hope that that was the PR stunt to get the press and the product is real and do-able.....after this pandemic world we are living in. I can only wish that this plants the seed of a new world if people become angry...... I can dream can’t I?😌
Disadvantage all is black - Landscape did not exists big mistake
The pronunciation is really like shit - frankly speaking.
It's all good until you step out of your hyperloop commute and it's the year 4055.
Hahahaha
dazhibernian what is this about? Time dilation?
Wow...I just jumped here to see what kind of ppl would support a mass ban of channels in a FREE SPEECH country, but this comment wow......I feel sorry for how stupid you are. I cant even be mad at this point.
@@pavogani tf u talking about
@@dazhibernian he did not get the joke
It's not about the hyperloop actually being built, it's about the friends we make along the way
Ok, I get that notion. Be fun to watch in Austin, lol.
None
Dude u can't make at least i can't make freinds in just 15min
Like the ever rich Elon Musk who can do anything with Money
@@timberwolfe1645 He's the kind of fabulously rich people we need, not creeps who want to remake the world based on their personal view of Utopia, like Zuckerberg or Bill Gates or George Soros or Bezos or Dorsey, numbnuts who think telling people how to live their lives is their personal business.
deff because it will never be built XD
A very informative video update! I worked for the Rand Corporation 1980-86. Attended class in Princeton N.J. for three months each year. They developed the underground tube-shuttle system still in operation today connecting the underground military bases around the world. Thank You for Your work.
I just enjoyed hearing the word tube pronounced “choob”.
YouChoob
@@pcxPOT sub to cartoon network on youchoob
Thats how its pronounced In the uk lol
Eduardo Castellon that how it’s pronounced you Americans call it tube but it’s pronounced choob
@@vybz987 You pronounce it "choob" but its spelled "tube". So...um...
The time lapse of the airport towards the end of the video is quite interesting as the incoming flights have little deviation in path. That's a subtle yet awesome reminder of computer assistance and its role in transportation.
Fantastic attention to detail!! Thanks for watching!
the idea was not "first conceived by Musk", the first actual functional hyperloop was build in 1872 by Alred Beach. It was called the Beach Pneumatic Transit.
Also in New York, I believe, they had a vacuum sucked Victorian underground train that sucked people through a tunnel from here to...there. Maybe I am thinking of the same thing, I just don't have anything but a childhood memory hearing about it. The part I recall is the luxurious train compartment, Pullman style.
Addendum Yep, it's the same thing. I should double check before I post a comment!
Almost flipped the f out when they said that
@@paulaharrisbaca4851 It was a demonstration tunnel that went about a block, then came back. Neat idea - but it wasn't hyperloop. The car (I think there was only one carriage, not a train) didn't operate in a hard vacuum, but instead acted as a piston. The station would increase or decrease the air pressure in the tunnel to push or pull the car.
NYC didn't go for it. The tunnel was sealed up, rediscovered, and then demolished. The scene in Ghostbusters II where they broke into it was actually City Hall Station, I believe, which is funny since City Hall Station is where the old tunnel originally was.
It's been three years now and not a lot of progress with the hyperloop and with the underwhelming failure of the Vegas loop, this transportation concept now seems more like a hype that would not get any results while China and Japan have made a lot of their goals in maglev trains that can now reach to up to 600km/h.
Indeed. Proven technology,....
France, Germany and Japan had high speed rail for so long now (since the 60s), it's crazy that the US still doesn't have high speed rail.
@@LutraLovegood Republicans
It's quite upsetting, given the quality of B1M's content that they gave HyperLoop this sort of press without dealving into the feasibility of the project. The concept is certainly physically possible, that is not in doubt, the problem is, is it feasible over any serious/useful distances without serious roadblocks what would explode its cost to build and maintain. Just consider the challenge of maintaining and creating the vacuum over such distances, let alone if the vacuum fails during use. At speed such a failure would mean insta-death for anyone inside one of these pods. As for the likely-hood of such failure, the longer the tube the greater the failure risk. For one, a pressurized tube in the vacuum of space is nothing compared to a vacuum under the pressure of the atmosphere.
The video covered the possibility of vacuum failure, and I was satisfied with Virgin's explanation that it would just slow down the train, not result in "insta-death for anyone inside". But I do agree that the video ignored the energy costs of maintaining vacuum when talking about how little energy the loops would actually use for _propulsion._
When it comes to the "insta-death" thing, I was a lot more worried about the possibility of someone crashing into a tube and then the train colliding with the break. However, it seems like the raised, seismically engineered supports should reduce that risk down to pretty much just intentional terrorism (or acts of war), and not normal accidents.
I have more problem with the lack of research about giving proper credit for the concept. This isn't Musk's concept. The video is a fail from the start.
Not only did you misspell Delhi,you also switch its position with Mumbai.
8:36
Finally found a comment about that error xD
Bombay?
Is one really being built there? I have seen no announcements. You would think a people who make turning skyscrapers and there own ski resort would.
@@lukeflor Bombay is an old name , named by Brits but then it was changed to Mumbai
pune to mumbai hyperloop almost completed
8:38 Delhi and Mumbai's location are switched with each other.
😂😂nicely observed👍
God knows whether the other locations are correct or not😜🙄
Hyper-loopholes 😅
Spelling of Delhi is 'Dehli'.
Right its mis located
Accidents on these things will be insanely gnarly, we're talking "that stain on that cliff side is my entire family" gnarly.
That's my worry
so hyperloop is just maglev in a tube.
Yes, You are right.
as well as a really cool name
It's not even something new. This was suggested by railway engineers in the past but wasn't feasible in their time.
Maglev in a tube but it goes faster since it doesn’t have air in front of it but it does have air behind it
@@gabbar51ngh still isn't feasible. If you ever worked with vacuum equipment you'd know what a fucking hurdle it is to keep even a small vacuum chamber under low pressure for an extended amount of time.
Having viewed a few videos I made an honest mistake taking this channel as having some serious engineering background, so I subscribed. That says more about me, than it says about the channel. Correcting my mistake after viewing this masterpiece. Hope I have learned something! :D
It's surprisingly easy to present bullshit with the same kind of legitimacy as proper content. This is how investors fall for scams like this in the first place.
The drive -thru at the bank has been using them for decades.
No
@@garisfamilychannel6160 Yes
Woosh this whole thread
This made me crack up. As a child I was so fascinated with the bank tubes.
I betcha someone got high and went to the bank and said man I wish I can fit in one of those tubes
Yeah sure, Hyperloop will/might be fast.
But it's middle of 2021, and there's not even a single commercial track built.
Should build the tubes out of flex tape that would make it really strong
Lol. Probably?🤷♀️🤔
I SAWED THIS HYPERLOOP IN HALF
remzor this was soooooo fucking funny man , i laughed for like 5 minutes.
No graphene
Deffo mate
France : building hyperloops
My place: roads with holes
India developed itsown hyperloop
Human trials are done in india
India has a hyperloop too, do same fact checks sir.
But not everywhere. The govt is doing a lot!! Only the people are not cooperating. The people are driving harsh and when the roads are becoming bad, they're complaining. Being an Indian, I feel that we needn't always need to put India down, sometimes we really need to look towards ourselves!!!
No, France is not building any hyperloops. In fact, no one is building hyperloops, it's all a scam. but France _does_ build high-sped rail lines, as well as subways and light rail lines, and is upgrading its existing rail infrastructure, all of which is sensible and stuff the US would do well to copy.
I always had nightmares of this from when I was a kid. Trapped in a super high speed tube with dead eyed people who look like they are brain dead and I was the only one who was aware of what was happening.
have you heard any dire circumstances with the chunnel?
They would get so much graffiti on the outside of the tubes
I cannot understsnd grafiti
@@Boz1211111 some art you see in streets and abandoned home or arts from gangs like that (i guess?)
@@Boz1211111 Or how this is possible at all :s
*No worries as there will be no tubes.* This is just a snake oil.
Just like mail was first sent by the early aeroplanes, send mail and cargo again first and see just how successful it goes. Great concept!
This video didn’t age well 😏
@B1M What is your opinion on Hyperloop today :-)
Imagine thinking up hyperloop but you don’t understand why the Golden Gate Bridge doesn’t have piers every 100 yards.
Not only that, but the concept of vacuum mag lev trains goes back to the over 100 years and is completely unoriginal.
Yeah good observation
More importantly, the concept makes no sense hence nothing is actually happenning
8:40- He confused Mumbai's location with Delhi
he didnt make that map
火
Lol he made the mistake
And Mumbai and Bangalore are in Chennai 6:42
Nemo Nobody He also spelled Delhi as Dehli
In the face of existing SCmaglev technologies, this seems a particularly inefficient way to achieve high-speed transport.
well good to know that there is an emergency exit from the hyperloop but not from the tube itself :)
Let's jump out of a carriage into a vacuüm! What could possibly go wrong?
Death IS your emergency exit.
This aged like milk
Basically a giant particle accelerator but without the collision (hopefully)
It is certainly accelerating giant particles!
I'd be afraid to ride on it, coming up to a wall, and the thing won't slow down, and with airplane force power slam into the concrete and destroy everything.
Yeah, it seems a little unsafe considering it can leak and the pressurization suddenly drops while a train is going.
phiovorix the same exact thing could be said about airplanes. Yeah if the pressure drops were all gonna be doomed. Yet that (almost) never happens
@@thamyris8953 Drops in pressure would just slow it down to mag-train speeds
8:36 You have misplaced Delhi and Mumbai locations 😅
hehe 🤗
With the Virgin's Hyperloop One,the supersonic speeds will change the cities too thereby reducing the travel time 😂
@@vankayalakameswarasarma1723 😂😂 lets make hyperloop in POK 😂😂😂😂😂
Delhi spelling is also wrong
Lamo..
I love that picture at 1:19
"Hey, is there a reason why they buildt the Golden Gate Bridge with such a high clearance?"
"Cant think of one. Lets build our own bridge right next to it, much closer to the surface."
Such things do not make me confident in the thought process behind all this.
solution to said problem:
1. do the thing underwater, near the riverbed
2. attach it to the bridge (load and stress, etc. withstanding)
3. build more bridge
4. another route
5. ancient elven sex magick rituals.
stop being a negative nelly, it says "concept" on the cover and the whole piece was probably meant to contrast the old with the new.
go tranq some mares and have your way with them.
you really had that last one coming with the name tho.
i love your comment. but the truth is they always wanted it on the bottom just didn't make for a good picture.
@@RebellionStudio so what you are saying in fact is that you know what you complained about is wrong. Why complain then?
Obviously it was just an artists rendering, not an engineering design. Ships have to pass under those bridges, so it has to be higher up.
It's misleading - like most of the hyperloop hype. Musk is going to take a whack on this.
Correction : At 8:42, the map of India shows a connection between Mumbai and Delhi. Besides the fact that Delhi is misspelt, the bigger mistake is that the cities have been interchanged. The one more up north is Delhi and the one towards the south is Mumbai.
lmao fr, they fcked it up--
It’s like putting NY on the west and California on the east 😗
Plus they got the map of India wrong. Kashmir region is incomplete in their map.
Oh 2020, how you bamboozled us all.
Hmmm
"A history"
Allow me to clarify, *"A Virgin Hyperloop Advertisement"
B1M you just interchanged the place of Delhi and Mumbai in Indian map @8:36 😁
😂😂😂😂😂
and the spelling of Delhi is wrong
It's Delhi not Dehli
Anirudh Nair. What do you expect from a nation that dumb down the students to a degree when they can’t even pinpoint India on a map, some not even their own country. A nation full of people believing the world is 6000 years and on top of everything a mentally ill leader.
Lol! Delhi in Maharashtra!
@@bokhans answer is not much
I remember watching a show called 'Extreme Engineering' on the History Channel about this- long before you say Musk 'came up with' this... they had a magnet train in a vacuum tunnel from NYC to London taking about an hour.
Same
me too, I watched it in 1998, maybe Musk did too.
"history channel" so sad the fall, from HISTORY, to fiction and aliens
1:33 I hope whoever made that picture is not in charge of design. There is a reason the golden gate bridge is built the way it is. The bridge in the picture would shut down one of the worlds biggest ports.
Oh really? What's that reason?
@@johndexter8487 I cant tell if this is sarcastic or not. I will answer as if its not. The Golden Gate is a straight that connects the pacific ocean with the bay of San Francisco. The bridge is named after the straight. That straight sees a huge percentage of he total US market in imported and exported goods. The Port of Oakland alone is the fifth busiest container port in the United States. Thus the bridge was built as tall as it is to accommodate the worlds largest ships. The concrete structure in the picture would clearly block the main channel and the large ships would no longer be able to pass.
They should make it deep underwater then.
@@jobowobo6700 You could've just said that the Hyperloop is too short to allow ships to pass under it. This is why people don't listen to science types.
Ben Alexander What he said was easy to understand and logical...
Travel so fast time dialation occurs
Ticket:Arrive at 3:30
Me:But its already 4:00!?
Am trak: does nothing
Elon: alright I’ll do it myself
Well he isn't anymore.
Virgin: We build first real Hyperloop.
Elon: I did it myself.
Amtrak is re-building, they’re almost profitable now.
The reason amtrak can't do anything, is because of cooperate shills like Elon, who does their best to get rid of public transit for their own monetary gain.
Imo the Japanese Shinkansen trains are still the best trains on the planet right now. Those things are beyond speedy! Love 'em.
Lol, "Virgin Hyperloop One are on track to achieve their bold ambition of bringing a hyperloop system into operation by 2021." It's 2022 now. Where are they?
LOL that’s what I was saying
I want to travel on Hyperloop in Cyberpunk 2077 with Keanu Reeves.
you are breathtaking :D
@@giri1478 NO YOU ARE BREATHTAKING !
You spelled I want to suck Keanu Reeves off wrong.
Lol lol
Don't wait to much visit India or UAE for your dream between 2025-26.
I won't be using Hyperloop, as I invented teleportation years ago. I just didn't tell anyone.
Oh you too?
Prove it by teleporting to my room and taking away my like for my own comment.
U B Bumblefly!
@Jack Thompson well Einstein would be proud well when y'all going to develop it??
Make sure you have a fly swat!
Maybe Elon Musk got bored while traveling in metro
hopeman returns ooo
Martin Korkos how? He’s the one who made the theory of hyperloop
mustafa al falahi he didn’t but ok ,
Paul Idusogie he used a pre existing technologies to theorize a new one
@@mustafa.bakes. the original idea was drawn up in like the 1800's with those drawings it showed a fan at the front of the vehicle and basically everythink ispracterly the same justit was impossible to build then.. Just like currently the hyperloop will never really come into existence.. Its to expensive unpractical every hyperloop tube aswell is a tiny prototype along with the proto type trains tht go in them, plus the fastest they're ever gotten people traveling in, is as fast as a bullet train and only rather briefly becuz there are only short tubes as it is even then tht longest one i'm sure i heard cost like a billion dollors or somthink stupid... Its a wonderful idea and i hope i'm wrong and they actually get it to work... But doubt it we havnt got the technology to even create a hyperloop system going from 1 city to another. But i hope i'm wrong
Only a dozen each run? How can it compete with even flight? The magnet rail and vacuum tube will cost times more than traditional HSR. 10 times more than normal train. And 1/20 of overall throughput. Unless it charges 5times flight ticket price, it won't even cover operating cost.
*_"Hyperloop was first conceived in 2012 by Elon Musk"_*
No it wasn't. The "Hyperloop" _brand_ might have been but the original concept of transporting people this way goes back to the early 1970s.
Yes first working test track had been build in West-Germany in 1969 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transrapid
@@ratten57 Thats Maglev not an airtube.
O. B. The whole thing is impractical.
@@o.b.9781 Maybe so but it's a stunt. The numbers simply don't stack up. There's no way these things will ever be cost competitive with conventional rail or flying. A vacuum tube is good for moving cash around a shop but not much good for people.
The original concept was first patented in 1799 in Britain - so Musk's claim that he invented the concept is beyond absurd. It's never been built because the engineering will be extraordinarily challenging and expensive and the safety issues are virtually insurmountable. This will never be economically viable - it's in the same category as personal rocket packs and flying cars.
This has been about to happen since I can remember. I first heard about this in 1960, I think, So any minute now.
2060?
When I was younger, I asked my dad why those pipelines (they're for hot water for heating here) have those big U turns that seemed to be useless. He explained to me, that due to temperature changes the metal tubes extend and getting longer. To prevent anything from breaking, these U turns give the tubes the ability to bend a little and not cause demage at where they are ending. How does Hyperloop deal with that, cause to me looks like the exact same problem?
i noticed that all the cities appear to be relatively the same longitude... wondered about temperature fluctuations, then wondered what they're going to do about global warming... and EARTHQUAKES. We didn't used to live in an earthquake zone, but since they've been fracking the CRAP out of the ground not far from us, our doorways all have massive cracks in them from the earthquakes that we just KEEP HAVING, and then they move the fracking to a better site(closer to someone elses house, lol- spread that "wealth"). Possibly, he thinks that he couldn't possibly be standing in the way of anything else necessary happening... but if they find oil under that thing, it'll be tinkertoy time. He DID just decide to start a plant in Austin, and then they had riots, lol.
They could stick a smaller pipe into a bigger pipe with a movable seal in between.
Just to add another maintenance/failure point.
Mind you, as this thing will never actually get build we may as well skip these practical problems and just enjoy the hype.. :-p
@@sigi9669 The HYPE erloop. funny, right? :D
@@miohai7190 I think i have just invented a new natural disaster !
@@miohai7190 AIRQUAKE (deals more damage and move faster)
Hyperloop is already obsolete, everyone is working from home and using Zoom.
Not stonk
oof
Recreational travel tho
Is mainly for freight. And you can't homework in engineering/manufacture areas.
Zoom won’t last, already productivity is going down
A bit boring without windows but I guess everyone is just looking at their phones anyway today...
zapfanzapfan by how fast you are going all you would see in a big blur, probably making a lot of people sick.
The pods will have plasma screens showing images of outside locations: th-cam.com/video/Dc1RtjuYL9M/w-d-xo.html
zapfanzapfan ... we do have very large hi-res Displays now,... how about the Grand Canyon on-screen while you Travel.... or you could take a nap... play a game... do some reading, office work... pls think smarter.
Is that a pun?..."a bit boring" ... seems pretty punny to me :/ (given that musk's other company is the Boring company...and it will likely use plain old boring bits).
zapfanzapfan keep in mind that even in airplanes there are plans to have only screens on the walls, no windows. Just search on that and you'll find what I'm talking about. And can we please stop using "Google" in place of search, it's just Yahoo search, Bing search, Altavista search whatever but not "Google it", sounds stupid, since Google just stole the idea about googol and googolplex, it's just a number, it's not a verb, it's a number. Just another stupid lynguistics trick on the masses to create more publicity for their company. I mean what's next, alphabet, alphabet that? That's stupid too.
Literally 100 thousand times the size of any other vacuum chamber.
B1M: Shut up! I don't care if it's plausible, I care if it's big!!!
You realise tests are already being done?
@@blackgold2589 yeah and failing completely, it has had MASSIVE BACKING like in the billion of dollars in investment and they have barely got a Maglev speed , by this time they could have build a maglev in USA and it would have been just as fast as the last test
Besides, keeping such a massive structure at vacuum... it’s just nearly impossible
wow!! hyperloop between chennai-bangaluru , chennai-Mumbai , mumbai - delhi , that indeed need for today's over crowding
Its since come out that Hyperloop was an effort by EM to delay California High Speed Rail and was never a serious project.
citation?
I agree with the previous comment about needing a citation
i remember reading about this in weekly reader [1961]
Funny how every idea has to come from Elon Musk now. I remember them talking about this in the 70's, as if we would have it by 2000 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_tunnel#Vactrain
@@sharpvidtube The original idea was conceptualized in the late 1800s.
So glad I was born during this generation so much things we're about to discover and create
Just wondering how much energy it would take to decompress a tube, and would it have to be done in a regular basis 🤔 tl;dr: what's the real energy consumption here?
Massive energy consumption, MASSIVE. Just powering the magnets alone, let alone pulling a vacuum in a miles long tube
@@youngeshmoney and only if it doesn't start leaking. Chances of it working are low and if it works the small carriages will make it too expensive for the regular Joe.
The "Hyperloop" has been debunked. It is probably the best example of Elon Musk's incredible talent for proposing meritless ideas and preying on the gullibility of the media and general public. It is astonishing how many people believe he is a genius solely because the mainstream media tells them he is. Also, a correction to your video: Elon Musk is not a founder of Tesla. It was founded in July 2003 by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning as Tesla Motors.
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No matter the value you put to the word founder, he is business terminology, considered a co-founder of Tesla Motors. This is due to the company existing only on paper, without a prototype to show off, when he was approached, and put up the lionshare of funding, after being turned down by all regular car manufacturers, with some not even thinking Eberhart and Tarpenning was worth an answer to their requst for a meeting.
In terminology all shareholders, that made the production of a prototype to base the companys business model on, are to be considered co-founders. With whoever came up with the idea, given the title of Original Founders and co-founders.
Also hyperloop is not really debunked, the proop of concept worked. It however also showed that scaling it for business purposes, is currently not technologically viable. Just like landing orbital boosters was it in the late 60s and early 70s. With SpaceX being first to do the task, and now RocketLab comming inreasingly close.
@@Mrpersonman0 The "hyperloop" doesn't exist. It is in development at the moment and is showing absolutely no substantive progress due to many MANY engineering challenges that have been known about for a very long time. A train in a depressurised tube is a 200 year old idea with the first commercial line being opened in the mid 1800s.
@@Mrpersonman0 It'd suck even if it existed.
Also no the hyperloop does not exist as advertised.
8:36 city names of Mumbai & Dehli have been interchanged.
Yah😂
Could you imagine living and working in 2 different time zones?
I need more coffie
that would be an excuse to get more coffee.
Try Notre Dame Indiana.
Move to Spain on the Portugese border, work in Portugal. Done.
@@HammerheadGuitar Mate; you nailed it, but these imbeciles won't understand...
I'd work in an area that has higher salaries and live far away from the over tax mandates of places like that. I'd be living like a king.
Still, how is this supposed to work in practice? There has to be at least two "loops" at each destination since you can only travel at one direction for each loop. Then how many can actually fit inside one of the pods, and how many pods can you use at the same time without the risk of crashing into each other? How will they turn the pods around into the opposite direction without blocking the incoming tubes? How can you really made this efficient for the masses? Would it perhaps be more efficient with an actual loop? With no need to turn around since there won't be any end to the loop, it just goes around and around.
I started working in NY 200 years back when we made houses at Rock Central, IM SO HAPPY WE DIDNT cancel the PROJECT. I never thought I would see it finished in my life time- then again, I may no
I have Popular Science magazines (might be Mechanix Illustrated magazines) dating in the 1950s that were promising this sort of technology and I am still waiting... I hope it comes true but but i am pretty sceptical that it will be done in my lifetime.
Environmental concerns, expensive land acquisition in urban areas and pressure from cheap priced airlines are pretty tough obstacles to overcome.
And then, there are always conventional high-speed and maglev trains that are proven technologies.
ahahahaha im waiting for a man on pluto too
Evacuated tunnel ideas have returned several times already, yes. And while it's hard to say for sure if this time will be different from previous times, at the least each next time our technologies are more capable.
So there the base principle of energy cost to move the 'train' through an evacuated tunnel is true. And thus in theory should allow for cheaper prices, so long as infrastructure costs aren't to excessive. The question becomes, can modern technology make the required infrastructure to run this system at a price point that doesn't destroy the cost savings gained for moving objects through an evacuated tunnel.
Sadly we'll just have to wait and see if current technology can do it. The number of projects on it going on right now does make this seem like a pretty serious effort at making it work this time around. So perhaps some companies/engineers think it might be feasible this time.
you are underestimating humans. we will be on mars in 6 years
If it's a futuristic thing depicted in Popular Science, Popular Mechanics or Mechanix Illustrated, it's almost a sure bet that it will never happen. Hahahaha!
I wish the best of luck to all Hyperloop projects.
Oh, I can live 400 km from my job? Answer: Yes, just use Zoom!
Sir 😅
I can't weld on zoom
From bed to office in under 10seconds.
Maybe Zoom video conference style tech, will overcome Hyperloop xportation, because the majority of people will be working from home, making it unnecessary..
11:38 you improved it a lot since I saw the video last it looks great with the stilts to accommodate fluctuations and migration paths
There is no improvement. the entire thing was a distraction and lie by Musk.
Just to clarify
The Dubai Abu Dhabi route
Will be the first hyperloop route in the world
Construction is estimated to begin between 2019-2020
The uae government already has prepared 7.5 billion usd for the project
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To all the replies
The uae government owns half of hyperloop one
So it's kinda obvious that they be the first to implement the technology
And what will they use as devices? There are not even prototypes available. You want go from nothing to a working device which is tested in 2 years? Great idea. They test the next generation of light rail for Berlin for two years and that is not a completely new technology.
ahahahaha no it wont..it will be the last
yes india too
Ronan-gaming it will be like in 2024
Reiner Jung wow, I didn't know people like you existed. What, do you only watch 1950's movies, read comic books, and play 20th century video games? Are you not intellectually curious in the least? How could you know none of this?
hyperloop one : try to sell to japan
newest japan bullet train : you say what?
Hyperloop
Japan: Neo Shinkansen
The Hyperloop technology is the one our world needs. In a globalizing and industrializing world like ours, we need to cut down the time we Need to go from A to B and the time our goods need from Production to our your home.
Being able to travel from Germany to China in less than 5 hours or from Los Angeles to New York in less that 3 Hours not only brings us closer but gives us more time to be at a place instead of travel to a place.
The best thing about Hyperloop is that it's already obsolete.
We already have maglev trains capable of carrying a thousand people going at speeds of almost 400 MPH.
Maglev massively trounces Hyperloop in efficiency with its capacity and ease of expansion.
@William Frank Ha ha ha!
@William Frank A compromised tube won't result in a supersonic shockwave of air on a maglev train like it would on a Hyperloop tube.
Oh yeah, I remember maglev technology. That was the technology we talked about in 1990, but we never got it and other countries did.
maglev is not a successful technology, it's more of a dick-shaking (a combination of dick-measuring and saber-rattling) contest "look at what we have" - Germany, Japan and China have it, but it's completely uneconomical to operate - Bristol Brabazon, BEA/Air France Concord or the Tu-144 are an example of such from the past - but they don't stand anywhere near the orders of magnitude of (unwarranted) expenditures for maglev.
Whenever I can I try to vote against such projects and for expansion of the normal public transportation to the smaller cities and villages, because public transportation and public services is what makes a country great, not some space launches, nuclear missiles or magnetically-suspended trains that nobody uses.
transrapid maglev operational since 1980s in Germany near Hamburg Berlin with 420 kmh back then
@@IvanDmitriev1 My guess you never went to Shanghai in 7 minutes 20 seconds for 30.5 km from inner city to airport at 431 kmh.
But on the costs and profitability of Maglev and Concord you are correct.
TGV and Shinkansen bullet trains are better, transport more people on one ride and are easier to implement on rails than Maglevs on magnetic rails.
The sad thing about this is that in 10 years TH-cam will suggest this video again and It will still then be in planning.. and is only in test somewhere in in the world
I heard the first hyperloop track will be leading from Wakanda to Gotham. i can't wait to go there
Good to see someone who can recognise vaporware.
I remember first learning of them when I was in 5th grade.
Still haven’t come
because they were never sustainable nor feasible in the first place
The technology "concieved" by Elon Musk was already theorized in Switzerland in 1992 as Swissmetro, google it.
And Roller coasters have using this tech for years
@M Heisenberg Thinking about something and turning it into a reality are two VERY different things.
It's even older than that. Systems using vacuum tubes have been used in large buildings to transport documents and other small items from one department to another for years!
@M Heisenberg Most tech advances are based on other peoples work.
actually it was theorized around the same time as the airplane. but one idea was good and practical, and one was very stupid and expensive
Some countries: We want hyperloop !
Antonia: leaves the conversation.
This video: misplaces Delhi and Mumbai
India: leaves the video.
India can't even have bullet train , that's not because of economy buy because of plateus and type of land etc ..
@@Eswarr true we will have to dig through landscapes to make hyperloop.
Shubham Mishra thats bullshit
Hyper loop: exists
Boat on blue ice in minecraft: my successor
I am an Indian, ❤ your video help me to understand the technology of hyperloop easily , BUT i have a request that , on 8:37 in India's map the 2 points shows namely as DELHI and MUMBAI are exchanges their places 😅 , so please take a look at it .
Any saving in energy will be more then made up for by the requirement to attain and maintain a .005 atm vacuum.
air locks.
Penny Wagner Air locks help with emergencies, but don’t change the energy requirements to maintain a vacuum
@@pennywagner8487 A constant stream of pods means a constant stream of lost vacuum in those air locks. So, yeah, it will be very expensive to keep such a vacuum in place... if they could ever even achieve it... which is pretty dubious.
Me posing questions: A) if there's a serious problem in the way, you're trapped in the vacuum tube, how do you get out? B) have you done the Math of how much energy you need to create a vacuum on such a big quantity of volume? I did, and it's enormous! And you'll have leaks on the joints.
I wonder about that too. Every transportation system has breakdowns, and people in NY's subway system have grown accustomed to endless waits or walks between stations. What happens when a hyperloop pod breaks down? Since there must be many pods in the tube at once in order to carry enough customers to make economic sense, there will be a big backup. So you just keep everybody there? Or you let air into the tube so people can walk out? Out to where? There would have to be escape areas at pretty frequent intervals to let everybody get back to the real world. And these escape areas themselves would have to have some sort of transportation connections. These and other safety considerations get very expensive, making an already economically doubtful system prohibitively expensive.
If you think about it for just a few minutes, there are endless problems. How do you get in and out of the pod? Each tube can only be one way of travel or have one pod in it. As you say, the power needed to create a meaningful vacuum is colossal. How strong will these tubes need to be? That will be expensive. Leaks, damage and environmental change, all problems.
We need to make this happen, this would be great not only the states but for the world
no it would not, its all a scam..
here you go: th-cam.com/video/RNFesa01llk/w-d-xo.html
and yeah if your not very smart that video will probably hurt your brain!.
Always a hater sitting at home with no job talking shit.
@@meanvecktor1900 Aww, what's wrong, don't like it when someone tells you that a scam is a scam? This will never happen. It's dangerous, impractical, and ridiculously expensive.
Stop confusing CGI with science.
1:18 this could bever happen, giant naval ships and cruise liners go under the The Golden Gate bridge.
Make it taller lol
The maglev train is scheduled to begin commercial operations between Tokyo and Nagoya around 2030. It has taken nearly 70 years since Japanese national railway started the research. I think Hyperloop may also take almost same decades of Japanese maglev train to begin commercial operations.
The maglev has already fixed the problem of levitation and propulsion for the hyperloop, and I think the tupes have fixed the problem of air pressure. It won't take as long as you think now, Elon's original idea of levitation would have though.
Maglev makes some sense though it has a lot of issues that make me question if it will take off. Hyperloop is just a joke.
Gotta love the "hurry up and go advanced security checks." If you are wondering why its so vague its because its pure bull based on nothing. Same as having this in"the very near future."
Small point: the Golden Gate Bridge isn't on the Los Angeles to San Francisco route nor visa versa. Just sayin.