A number of fossils have been found across Montana, Wyoming and the Dakotas. I found what turned out to be a Mosasaur tooth (according to the Denver Natural History Museum) in my backyard! Didn't even have to dig it up.
It's great to see Peter Larson recognized for his expertise! The recent record breaking fossil sold to a private collector has me indignant on his behalf! Sue was taken from Mr Larson on the grounds he might be motivated by profit vs scientific benefit. Now I see it's perfectly fine to be motivated by bottom line. All of what he went through.....glad he's doing well!
The judge ordered Stan to be sold because his brother wanted out of the BHI and his share of the money. There's more to it than that, but the upshot is that Stan had to be sold so Pete's brother got his money.
Tyrannosaurs are one of my favorite dinosaur families. Tyrannosaurus Rex being my all-time favorite, followed by the Carcharodontosaurs and the Neovenators.
I loved watching the show.Thought it was so fantastic when he and his son had found a skull in a valley thet just happened to stumbled across it and were uncovering peaces and more peaces to find it was a complete skull.and then the show ended.Hope the show comes back in a near season or a new series.It a wonderful to see cowboys out ranching and then start to find such history that walked this land so many centuries ago.Hopefully the networks will pick the show up and bring back another series of finding more prehistoric fossils.To show the world that the massive creatures did walk the earth millions of years ago before they went extinct.Just their size must have been a incredible sight to behold when they walked the earth.
the show is coming back right, did it say it was the series finale? that would suck i LOVE this show my grandaughters and i watched it together every week, they loved it as much as this big kid did LOL
Remember in back to the future 3. Where Marty has to go back to the wild west. And Doc Brown hooks him up with some 1955 western wear. And then when he shows up in the wild west he looks absolutely ridiculous. Yeah. Kinda reminds me of that too.
The eternal struggle between lumpers and splitters. This highlights some other points in paleontology and science in general. Most importantly is that science advances with more information is gathered. Also, healthy debate is beneficial is raising questions to be answered to differentiate organisms. I also like the enthusiasm of the rancher. Not only is he interested in paleontology, he had the good sense to bring in someone who knows the subject.
Nannotyranus argument has been going on for some time. I was skeptical thinking that the Lance Creek specimen was a juvenile T rex for many years. However, with Clayton Phipps' discovery of the Dueling carnisaur and Chomper, I've changed my opinion. Both specimens have long, narrow, and long manus first phalanx elements very suggestive of Albertosaur hand structure. I believe the key to these individuals is in their hand structures as well, which likely will determine Tyrannosaur species diversity T rex hands were rather stocky and small in sructure while Abertosaurus and Gorgosauarus hands were .longer and narrower than in Tyrannosaurs. It's very likely that Nannotyranus was a late Maastrichtian Albertosaur hold over genus that survived into Hell Creek times. These manus elements are extremely rare to find requiring more complete specimens to determine species identification with overwhelming confidence. Clayton Phipps work in the Hell Creek Formation has given science incredibly important specimens and he rightfully should be acknowledged. Im glad to see that Pete Larson is also becoming honored as well for his valued research in dinosaur biology and tyrannosaur specimen discovery. The "Dinosaur Hunters" series has really offered the general public a realisric view of dinosaur fossil collecting in the Hell Creek Formation. It serves to educate how important that the public be allowed access to fossil specimens on private land that academic science has been falsely labeling as detrimental to science. Fortunately, it's because of public interests in dinosaur fossils that nearly all major dinosaur specimens mounted in our major museums came from discoveries by non academics!
My grandpa is like the definition of this the cowboy of this guy, made a living off of cattle most of his life as well. And I represent the opposite side. I took all the paleontology. I love dinosaur fossil finding more than is sane.
I wanna see those other scientist having fun discovering they were so wrong LoL Peter Larson, the perfect one to be able to do this!! Clayton .. keep digging!! Love it.
I would point out that some reptiles and quite a bit of sea life grows for as long as they live. So it not being full though growing might not mean it is not at adulthood, unless we can suddenly describe the growth patterns in dinosaurs in detail then Id say there has always been room for debate. However I do believe this find is actually the smoking gun of Nanotyrannus.
I just watched a Ted talk where a paleontologists with his own museum will cut the fossils in half and has found that all the small version of triceratops & therapods such as nano trex have spongy inside of their bones but the full grown versions are completely solid looking like iron. He said there is only approx half the amount of different dinos that paleontologists claim but scientist do not want to ever admit they were wrong (which in of itself is unscientific) & if they named something don't want to lose that because they love to be able name things & the noriety they receive. Many of them go through tremendous changes as they age & aren't just miniture versions of the bigger version. Otherwise we haven't found any juvinelle dinos ever. Does that make any fucking sense? No it doesn't!
@@bradwhite5884 it's not going to be named one since the more they study them the less they look like a separate species and in the end are just a juvenile T-Rex. Hell my cousins just dug one up last summer.
The difference in claw size is interesting. Reminds me of those diagrams we see in textbooks showing how animals evolve from smaller to bigger creatures. About 20 years ago, I found out that such illustrations don't always represent the reality. The skull size of certain creatures was doctored because the sequence in the actual fossils was more erratic ie small skull, bigger skull, suddenly small again, smaller, then MUCH bigger, etc etc. Then we hadda test on related subject that the teacher had to revise after we saw a video exposing certain fraudulent claims regarding 'missing links' and such. There's a lot more uncertainty than many let on... Agh, 4give my tangent. None of those gripes with this video, to be sure 😎
there are so many problems with this video and the declaration of "new species" 1st. They conflate genus and species in this video to a painful degree. Tyrannosaurus is the GENUS, Rex is the SPECIES. Another SPECIES of Tyrannosaurus would be T.Imperator or possibly T.Bataar. They are arguing for a new GENUS not SPECIES, as Nanotyrannus has been postulated to be a separate genus 2nd. If they did legitimately discover a "new species" it would be named and credited. This is about paleontological drama 10+ years in the making. Nothing "new" about this 3rd. They called in one (1) singular expert for his opinion? Who VERY clearly has a bias? Even if he is right (which is unlikely) he came to this conclusion in one single visit to one single specimen in an afternoon. Id hardly call that precise. Also why only one guy? Why not at least 2 to get 2nd opinions? its almost as if... 4th. At the end of the video, it makes it obvious that this video and entire situation has been misconstrued for profit. Not only do stories like this ALWAYS get exaggerated on a daily basis in dinosaur news to generate clicks/views, but at the end the rancher (who owns the fossil) outright ADMITS that he is looking to SELL the fossil. now it makes complete sense as to why he would contact a fanboy of "nanotyrannus" to be the one and ONLY paleontologist to come out and see the specimen, so he would declare "NEW SPECIES WOW! DEBATE SOLVED!!!" as that would earn a much larger paycheck than just another Tyrannosaurus specimen. Specimens in situations EXACTLY like this are sold as false scientific breakthroughs when in reality they are average specimens, so they can be sold for higher prices all the time. China is infamous for this exact practice.
You are not wrong - but it may be worth noting that the lines between where one genus ends and another begins is a bit blurry, arbitrary, and just a human word - especially with fossils. And in this case I'm not convinced nano-t-rex isn't just a baby t-rex anyway. Which just demonstrates how difficult assigning a genus is.
This is awesome, just find an unknown and it's one of a kind that makes it ultra-valuable. If I did not see an actual bone sticking out, I would just be seeing dirt...
@@occamsrazor9183 awesome you have a cool channel too. I just saved a new vid to that list just for you it’s short checkitout. It’s called TRB3 in action. Happy thanksgiving 🦃
@@russianthotbot6997 How long have you had this video? isn't that explosion from the nitrate storage in the middle east not so long agoth-cam.com/video/QzptHbxgVt0T/w-d-xo.htmlhis one/And that looks like the Aurora or Telos craft a possibility...'
So is Nanotyrannous actually finally recognized as a separate species now?! I remember that the first time I heard about nanotyrannous was from the show jurassic fight club ( which granted it wasn't a very scientifically accurate show) I thought it was a neat Dinosaur but then scientists started saying that it wasn't a real Dinosaur, that it was just a miss identified young tyrannosaurus.
No, nanotyrannus is the same exact species as Tyrannosaurs rex. It's just a different growth stage. There is no evidence to suggest that they are different species at all.
@@chuckrothans7535 what they said was exactly like saying that a 5 year old child is a different species from an adult human. The fusion of the skull and longer arms don't classify as evidence, because young animals tend to experience bone fusion early in life, even with larger animals. Puppies, kittens, calves, young reptiles and birds go through it very early into their lives. As a Tyrannosaurus ages, it's arms would decrease in size relative to it's body, due to the near uselessness of it's forelimbs, and the importance of it's bite force. This "expert" was making biased assumptions and judgements without accurately assessing the evidence against him. He may be knowledgeable in tyrannosaurids, but doesn't understand ontogeny. Especially since in the last two years, it's been agreed decisively, along with addressing evidence, that nanotyrannus and Tyrannosaurus rex are infact the same species. Ontogenally, ecologically, and biologically, they are associated in the same way. There is no evidence to support their separation as different genera.
@@Bunny-ns5ni I understand what you are saying, I work with animals I'm a wildlife biologist. I understand Ontology, ecology, and the biology of animals. An yes this "expert " might have been biased in his assumptions and judgment but considering that he has spent years in his field studying the fossils of tyrannosaurids he should be able to tell the difference. He doesn't have anything really to gain from lying about what this Dinosaur is, doing something like that would damage his reputation, credibility, and his job. No one would do that unless they truly have a proper understanding of what he does. And as for the slight differences between this fossil and other tyrannosaurus specimens doesn't mean that it's exactly the same species or not for example lion and tiger skeletons look almost perfectly identical. If they both went extinct a long time ago without even ever being seen by the eye's of people or any photos evidence to prove that they are different species then people would have just believed that the two skeletons were from the same species and not two completely different species.
@@Bunny-ns5ni The arms of the Nano-T are not bigger then a T-Rex compared to it's body size... they are way larger then the arms of an adult T-Rex at all. Show me just one animal where bodyparts are shrinking with age.
One way or another, if this is a young T-Rex, or a Nanotyrannus, scientists challenging and questioning each other is always a great thing that we will only benefit from.
I can't argue with the presented evidence that it's most likely not a juvenile T-Rex, but I'm not sure I like Larson's insistence that it must be Nanotyrannus when the bones aren't even fully prepared yet. I'm highly skeptical of anything claiming to be Nanotyrannus, and the more insistent someone is about something controversial like this, the more skeptical I get.
We have no idea there are so many possible and very plausible reasons for both arguments and there are so many things that are not mentioned here at all . There are unlimited possibilities and to be so impatient and stubborn with only one specific line of reasoning is obviously always proven time and again to be close minded and fool hearted . That is quite the opposite of what a true scientist's outlook is and has always been, completely open to any possibility, especially ones with unforeseen facts, yet to be discovered that can explain the why,how,what,who,where,etc that we all got into this for in the first place. Somedays we find them , and somedays we dont . Its the journey that is most important . Dont waste it by arguing about what you can not prove beyond a shadow of a doubt. The program here today lacked so many details that could go either way , unfortunately we do not have fully grown specimens from all ages on both sides to prove it one way or the other. There could be a million reasons why both suggestions are actually wrong. They could both be genetically modified reptilian dna , made into these beasts for nefarious reasons ! Hey we do not know they are not !!!
"Arms don't shrink when you grow." Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't Hoatzin birds hatch with rather gangly, clawed arms and fingers, which then fuse and re-absorb and stuff as they grow up? I'm not saying the evidence for Nanotyrannus being its own species isn't compelling, just that birds and at least some of their dino ancestors seem very variable in their morphology as they grow up.
@@adambartlett114 _IF_ Nano-s just a young T-rex, it's possible it would have more use for proportionally larger arms than an adult, who may only need them as "love handles" if at all. I recall watching a documentary that (iirc) said young T-rexes had a vastly different diet from the adults/parents, suggesting they lived separately from the parents and hunted for themselves, in different environments, with different techniques, for different prey. Sadly I don't recall which of the countless dino docs I've watched over the years. I'm just half-remembering and speculating, though. I've no stake in this debate, but I agree that the debates can be fun! =D
@@studygodsword5937 I kind of get what you’re going for, but that’s not a good example. Especially since amphibians are a completely different kingdom from dinosaurs, and there is zero evidence in the entire fossil record of any dinosaur, reptile, or bird going through anywhere close to as vast a change as amphibians go through in their life cycle.
A lot of supposedly new Dinosaur Species ended up being different phases of Life, for only one. Dr. Carlson did a really good Video, on the vanishing Dinosaurs. really funny and quite accurate, in my opinion. Every one wants to name a Dinosaur.
@Discovery UK< it's T. rex, not T-Rex. The proper, scientific, way of abbreviating the genus and species names of an animal is to take the first letter of the genus, capitalize it, and put a . at the end. Then, comes the species name in all lower case.
@4:51 how is it hard to consider, that maybe, like crocs....they don't necessarily 'stop growing'. Given enough food, and more time, they just get bigger.
I found some dead bones of a buffalo in my backyard, gonna pass them off as as new species. Publish them in science journal. become rich ans famous. Gonna name.... Backyardsaurus.
So he did NOT find T-Rex bones??? Jeez, what a title. There are many Tyrannosaur species but the Tyrannosaurus Rex is a specific species and he did not find that.... He found a new species.... That would be an accurate title.
Allosaurus was indeed a real theropod, albeit from the Jurassic instead of the Cretaceous like the Tyrannosaurus so your memory of it predating Tyrannosaurus is also correct! Different families though and they have quite a few easy to spot differences such as Tyrannosaurus being larger, Allosaurus having three fingered hands as opposed to the 2 fingers of Tyranno, and Allosaurus's distinct crests in front of the eyes
How do we know if the nano skeleton and the T-rex skeletons dont actually reprsent the T-rex's different genders with either the male or female being the naturally larger representation of the species?
Imagine being an ordinary Joe in the comments without a PhD or scientific degree of any kind and still attempting to talk down to and rebuke a paleontologist who’s been at this longer than they have.
I found a bone in my backyard a few years ago. I was sure it was a T-Rex. Thought I was rich, started buying cars and planning luxury trips around the world. Turned out to be an old cow .
"Rancher Finds T-Rex Bones That Turn Out To Be A Brand New Dinosaur Species" - more clickbait nonsense - this and other purported specimens are NOT confirmed as a new species
The Discovery Channel simply followed the discovery of this specimen, it's gonna take years for it to be properly diagnosed and submitted for peer review in a scientific journal. The scientist in this clip made some pretty compelling observations though, and his perspective is certainly not to be taken lightly.
I am inclined to believe Nanotyrannus is a juvenile T rex, but the evidence presented here for the seperate species hypothesis is quite striking. I cannot find any logical reason why the arm bones and claws would actually shrink in adulthood. It is just not feasible. The fusion of the nasal bones is good evidence but not conclusive due to variability of the rate and proportion of fusion between individuals being plausible, especially when it is a known phenomenon in contemporary species including our own.
If it ever is, they said they were auctioning the skeleton as these are independent fossil diggers. No guarantee it will be bought by a Museum/scientific organization to be studied vs being bought by some insanely wealthy private collector who will just lock it away in their private collection
So when one of these fossil skeletons is found, the dirt and the rock that it is found in - that envelopes the fossil - is just as important as the fossil itself ? Because in order to calculate how long the fossil has been there - it's age - they have to perform radio metric dating on the dirt and the rock that encased the fossil?
@@jerrelalexander2732 Your Statement is False. Sources: National Geographic, the American Museum of Natural History and The Natural History Museum (UK). The Remains are Bones. I Don't Believe Everything I See lmao. Simple Research Shows it. I Gave 3 Sources, and you can Use them to do your Own Research. Stop Using your Thoughts as Fact, because they are just Thoughts.
This video makes me wish I stayed on my love of dinosaurs like when I was younger, I wanted to dig up all the bones when I was a kid 😂
Same, I really wish that I had stuck with my love for palentolgy.
I stuck with it, but I don’t have anywhere to dig up bones until I can get to college :(
Could you belive they lived. With man
I still have my plastic dinosaurs 🦕 used to spend hours playing with them.
@@yashuasaves5207 yes, birds are real
A number of fossils have been found across Montana, Wyoming and the Dakotas. I found what turned out to be a Mosasaur tooth (according to the Denver Natural History Museum) in my backyard! Didn't even have to dig it up.
wow my son would freak out it's his favorite dinosaur!!! I can't imagine finding that in our garden...
If you ever find any in your yard don't tell anyone because they can leagly stop you from entering your yard and make it a protected excavation site
@@NaturesAnomalies government am I right >:/
You have more than just a tooth. Just dig
@@NaturesAnomalies Or you can help Science by not going into your yard while Scientists excavating.
It's great to see Peter Larson recognized for his expertise! The recent record breaking fossil sold to a private collector has me indignant on his behalf! Sue was taken from Mr Larson on the grounds he might be motivated by profit vs scientific benefit. Now I see it's perfectly fine to be motivated by bottom line. All of what he went through.....glad he's doing well!
The judge ordered Stan to be sold because his brother wanted out of the BHI and his share of the money.
There's more to it than that, but the upshot is that Stan had to be sold so Pete's brother got his money.
Comforting to know that the family who stole Sue lived their lives at bitter odds with each other because of it.
Tyrannosaurs are one of my favorite dinosaur families. Tyrannosaurus Rex being my all-time favorite, followed by the Carcharodontosaurs and the Neovenators.
Same t-rex is my favorite dino and Animal.
Car car 4 da win
Dinosaurs aren't real.
@@ronaldmcdowells1107 lol 😆 😂 🤣
How about the abelisaurs? I know they are smaller but still a very unique family of Dino.
If T-Rex sold guns.
He'd be a small arms dealer.
Take my like
I loved watching the show.Thought it was so fantastic when he and his son had found a skull in a valley thet just happened to stumbled across it and were uncovering peaces and more peaces to find it was a complete skull.and then the show ended.Hope the show comes back in a near season or a new series.It a wonderful to see cowboys out ranching and then start to find such history that walked this land so many centuries ago.Hopefully the networks will pick the show up and bring back another series of finding more prehistoric fossils.To show the world that the massive creatures did walk the earth millions of years ago before they went extinct.Just their size must have been a incredible sight to behold when they walked the earth.
the show is coming back right, did it say it was the series finale? that would suck i LOVE this show my grandaughters and i watched it together every week, they loved it as much as this big kid did LOL
What in the broke back mountain is he wearing on his neck?
Hickey camouflage.
Lol exactly
He’s the Ram Rancher
Don’t hate because he’s got style 😂
Were the brokeback mountain cowboys looking for dinosaurs, I forget
I live in the South. I know lots of cowboys, ranchers and farm owners. This dude is dressed so awesome I have a hard time believing he's real.
Looks like he's just off the range
He’s bringin REXY BACK...🎶🎵🎵🎶
Actors Acting... They never miss the dress rehearsal.
Remember in back to the future 3. Where Marty has to go back to the wild west. And Doc Brown hooks him up with some 1955 western wear. And then when he shows up in the wild west he looks absolutely ridiculous. Yeah. Kinda reminds me of that too.
@@worldssickestmedia2713 bahahaha yes!
Cowboys don't typically try so hard to sound like cowboys
or wear scarfs
I'm gonna be honest, this video convinced me that nanotyrannus is a real genus
This show is incredible I wish they would make another season of this show
There is another season
That guy's "Cowboy Outfit" personifies what in the 1940's and 50's was referred to as a "Drug Store Cowboy".
That “cowboy” looks like he’s been working up on Brokeback Mountain.
Wow! Pete Larson is a neighbor of ours, and it is our great joy to be able to visit his museum in Hill City.
I gotta admit...when I see that neck handkerchief/scarf thing, I can’t hear or see anything else in the video.
It’s pretty fascinating how he can look at a pile of dirt ( 1:25 ) and tell the difference between fossilized bone and dirt
I love this show. It’s one of my favourites. Can’t wait for Season 3!
Will there be a season #3 ?
The eternal struggle between lumpers and splitters. This highlights some other points in paleontology and science in general. Most importantly is that science advances with more information is gathered. Also, healthy debate is beneficial is raising questions to be answered to differentiate organisms. I also like the enthusiasm of the rancher. Not only is he interested in paleontology, he had the good sense to bring in someone who knows the subject.
I'd hate to ever go against this guys knowledge of the T-Rex. Smart guy
0:03 That guy is as much a "rancher" as I am an astronaut. lol
OneMA... then you are a hell of an astronaut! Seriously.
I used to doubt Nanotyrannus, I'm now leaning on believing it's a separate species.
Man dinosaurs are so interesting I wish we could see a live one one day but the possibility of that is very low
Watch jurassic park
@@judyivie4181 I have
@@judyivie4181 those aren't live dinosaurs lmaooo- it's a movie, cgi and man-made things
Turtles, crocodile's, some people's mom, everyone has seen a dinosaur.
@@lohkie2__3 Turtles and Crocodiles are Related to Dinosaurs, but Aren't Dinosaurs. Source: American Museum of Natural History
Nannotyranus argument has been going on for some time. I was skeptical thinking that the Lance Creek specimen was a juvenile T rex for many years. However, with Clayton Phipps' discovery of the Dueling carnisaur and Chomper, I've changed my opinion. Both specimens have long, narrow, and long manus first phalanx elements very suggestive of Albertosaur hand structure. I believe the key to these individuals is in their hand structures as well, which likely will determine Tyrannosaur species diversity T rex hands were rather stocky and small in sructure while Abertosaurus and Gorgosauarus hands were .longer and narrower than in Tyrannosaurs. It's very likely that Nannotyranus was a late Maastrichtian Albertosaur hold over genus that survived into Hell Creek times. These manus elements are extremely rare to find requiring more complete specimens to determine species identification with overwhelming confidence. Clayton Phipps work in the Hell Creek Formation has given science incredibly important specimens and he rightfully should be acknowledged. Im glad to see that Pete Larson is also becoming honored as well for his valued research in dinosaur biology and tyrannosaur specimen discovery. The "Dinosaur Hunters" series has really offered the general public a realisric view of dinosaur fossil collecting in the Hell Creek Formation. It serves to educate how important that the public be allowed access to fossil specimens on private land that academic science has been falsely labeling as detrimental to science. Fortunately, it's because of public interests in dinosaur fossils that nearly all major dinosaur specimens mounted in our major museums came from discoveries by non academics!
My grandpa is like the definition of this the cowboy of this guy, made a living off of cattle most of his life as well. And I represent the opposite side. I took all the paleontology. I love dinosaur fossil finding more than is sane.
damn you guys have a trained eye, all I see is dirt and rock, removing the bone cast from the rock must be difficult and very slow,
The moral of a story, this is how science lost an important specimen to a private collector...
This is how science got an important specimen they wouldn’t have got otherwise. People wouldn’t go looking for fossils if they weren’t valuable
I just love how Hollywood thinks how a cowboy should look 😂😂
why is this not on US TV? Instead we get ancient aliens and finding bigfoot
That line, 10 life's time discovery was awesome 👍
I wanna see those other scientist having fun discovering they were so wrong LoL Peter Larson, the perfect one to be able to do this!! Clayton .. keep digging!! Love it.
its not a silly debate . Its a debate worth having .
Why does this “rancher” look like he’s wearing a costume?
Why do you think its a costume? Ever seen real cowboys with cow shit on their boots?
Because it’s the Discovery Channel Jro
Because this is a TV show and 99% of what you see is a "show."
@@dtom3792 exactly
Because he's so clean.
Nobody was phased by the T-rex growling at them in the room. 😂
Rancher says heck with Cows this is Worth some serious Coin. Cheers
Yeah except he can’t have sex with dinosaur bones so I guess he’s probably disappointed about that part
@@OzMate79 and you have no Friends so you say Stupid Stuff in TH-cam comments for Attention, so I Guess you're Probably Disappointed about That Part.
@@OzMate79 lol fn great shit. Bahahaha
The dino is great but that guy looks hilarious in his cowboy costume. 😆
I would point out that some reptiles and quite a bit of sea life grows for as long as they live. So it not being full though growing might not mean it is not at adulthood, unless we can suddenly describe the growth patterns in dinosaurs in detail then Id say there has always been room for debate. However I do believe this find is actually the smoking gun of Nanotyrannus.
I just watched a Ted talk where a paleontologists with his own museum will cut the fossils in half and has found that all the small version of triceratops & therapods such as nano trex have spongy inside of their bones but the full grown versions are completely solid looking like iron. He said there is only approx half the amount of different dinos that paleontologists claim but scientist do not want to ever admit they were wrong (which in of itself is unscientific) & if they named something don't want to lose that because they love to be able name things & the noriety they receive. Many of them go through tremendous changes as they age & aren't just miniture versions of the bigger version. Otherwise we haven't found any juvinelle dinos ever. Does that make any fucking sense? No it doesn't!
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Hope it gets classified as one, but it is a long road and need more studies though, rule out more possibilities tbh
@@bradwhite5884 it's not going to be named one since the more they study them the less they look like a separate species and in the end are just a juvenile T-Rex. Hell my cousins just dug one up last summer.
@@deannelson9565 we need to know more about your cousins digging up some T. rex’s like… now
I just got to meet Clayton and ride in his brand new Corvette
Whats up with the scarf on that "cowboy". All dressed up for a broke back mountain party.
Love the “ Dino Hunters “ show !!
The difference in claw size is interesting.
Reminds me of those diagrams we see in textbooks showing how animals evolve from smaller to bigger creatures.
About 20 years ago, I found out that such illustrations don't always represent the reality. The skull size of certain creatures was doctored because the sequence in the actual fossils was more erratic ie small skull, bigger skull, suddenly small again, smaller, then MUCH bigger, etc etc.
Then we hadda test on related subject that the teacher had to revise after we saw a video exposing certain fraudulent claims regarding 'missing links' and such.
There's a lot more uncertainty than many let on...
Agh, 4give my tangent. None of those gripes with this video, to be sure 😎
They are wrong!
It’s so fascinating and what blows my mind is how old that has been on the ground floor
If that dude is a rancher then I am Liberace
Exactly...Fake as the story...
He likes ranch dressing not is a rancher now I get it
You are Liberace, then. I know Clayton. Married w/ children. He's man enough that he can wear what he wants to. Guessing you aren't.
@@alfenito lol...You mustn't know what a man looks like.. That dude has "seen a few up close"...
@@godbluffvdgg Dude, stop fantasizing. Clayton is straight.
Wheres his ranch at? Brokeback mountain?
No, Boneback mountain
there are so many problems with this video and the declaration of "new species"
1st. They conflate genus and species in this video to a painful degree. Tyrannosaurus is the GENUS, Rex is the SPECIES. Another SPECIES of Tyrannosaurus would be T.Imperator or possibly T.Bataar. They are arguing for a new GENUS not SPECIES, as Nanotyrannus has been postulated to be a separate genus
2nd. If they did legitimately discover a "new species" it would be named and credited. This is about paleontological drama 10+ years in the making. Nothing "new" about this
3rd. They called in one (1) singular expert for his opinion? Who VERY clearly has a bias? Even if he is right (which is unlikely) he came to this conclusion in one single visit to one single specimen in an afternoon. Id hardly call that precise. Also why only one guy? Why not at least 2 to get 2nd opinions? its almost as if...
4th. At the end of the video, it makes it obvious that this video and entire situation has been misconstrued for profit. Not only do stories like this ALWAYS get exaggerated on a daily basis in dinosaur news to generate clicks/views, but at the end the rancher (who owns the fossil) outright ADMITS that he is looking to SELL the fossil. now it makes complete sense as to why he would contact a fanboy of "nanotyrannus" to be the one and ONLY paleontologist to come out and see the specimen, so he would declare "NEW SPECIES WOW! DEBATE SOLVED!!!" as that would earn a much larger paycheck than just another Tyrannosaurus specimen.
Specimens in situations EXACTLY like this are sold as false scientific breakthroughs when in reality they are average specimens, so they can be sold for higher prices all the time. China is infamous for this exact practice.
You are not wrong - but it may be worth noting that the lines between where one genus ends and another begins is a bit blurry, arbitrary, and just a human word - especially with fossils. And in this case I'm not convinced nano-t-rex isn't just a baby t-rex anyway. Which just demonstrates how difficult assigning a genus is.
skorpio... Nope.
Just go with the flow, go along to get along. Dont make waves. Maybe they will throw you a bone when they sell it for 8.3mil.
I really miss seeing this on TV ! This is really cool!
This is awesome, just find an unknown and it's one of a kind that makes it ultra-valuable. If I did not see an actual bone sticking out, I would just be seeing dirt...
This is a joke. Nothing but dirt coulda been anything.
@@russianthotbot6997 It was. I watched your video of "Listen to what this man says" he is totally correct...
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@@russianthotbot6997 I would like to find the original clip...'
This is just another juvenile Tyrannosaurus rex
So is Nanotyrannous actually finally recognized as a separate species now?!
I remember that the first time I heard about nanotyrannous was from the show jurassic fight club ( which granted it wasn't a very scientifically accurate show) I thought it was a neat Dinosaur but then scientists started saying that it wasn't a real Dinosaur, that it was just a miss identified young tyrannosaurus.
No, nanotyrannus is the same exact species as Tyrannosaurs rex. It's just a different growth stage. There is no evidence to suggest that they are different species at all.
@@Bunny-ns5ni what about what they just did right there in that video?
@@chuckrothans7535 what they said was exactly like saying that a 5 year old child is a different species from an adult human. The fusion of the skull and longer arms don't classify as evidence, because young animals tend to experience bone fusion early in life, even with larger animals. Puppies, kittens, calves, young reptiles and birds go through it very early into their lives. As a Tyrannosaurus ages, it's arms would decrease in size relative to it's body, due to the near uselessness of it's forelimbs, and the importance of it's bite force. This "expert" was making biased assumptions and judgements without accurately assessing the evidence against him. He may be knowledgeable in tyrannosaurids, but doesn't understand ontogeny. Especially since in the last two years, it's been agreed decisively, along with addressing evidence, that nanotyrannus and Tyrannosaurus rex are infact the same species. Ontogenally, ecologically, and biologically, they are associated in the same way. There is no evidence to support their separation as different genera.
@@Bunny-ns5ni I understand what you are saying, I work with animals I'm a wildlife biologist. I understand Ontology, ecology, and the biology of animals. An yes this "expert " might have been biased in his assumptions and judgment but considering that he has spent years in his field studying the fossils of tyrannosaurids he should be able to tell the difference. He doesn't have anything really to gain from lying about what this Dinosaur is, doing something like that would damage his reputation, credibility, and his job. No one would do that unless they truly have a proper understanding of what he does.
And as for the slight differences between this fossil and other tyrannosaurus specimens doesn't mean that it's exactly the same species or not for example lion and tiger skeletons look almost perfectly identical. If they both went extinct a long time ago without even ever being seen by the eye's of people or any photos evidence to prove that they are different species then people would have just believed that the two skeletons were from the same species and not two completely different species.
@@Bunny-ns5ni The arms of the Nano-T are not bigger then a T-Rex compared to it's body size... they are way larger then the arms of an adult T-Rex at all. Show me just one animal where bodyparts are shrinking with age.
One way or another, if this is a young T-Rex, or a Nanotyrannus, scientists challenging and questioning each other is always a great thing that we will only benefit from.
Im going to be a palieantoligest when I get older and I found 8 trilobites
The dude with the Stetson and the cowboy regalia looks ridiculous although he probably thinks he’s the business! 😂
I can't argue with the presented evidence that it's most likely not a juvenile T-Rex, but I'm not sure I like Larson's insistence that it must be Nanotyrannus when the bones aren't even fully prepared yet.
I'm highly skeptical of anything claiming to be Nanotyrannus, and the more insistent someone is about something controversial like this, the more skeptical I get.
We have no idea there are so many possible and very plausible reasons for both arguments and there are so many things that are not mentioned here at all . There are unlimited possibilities and to be so impatient and stubborn with only one specific line of reasoning is obviously always proven time and again to be close minded and fool hearted . That is quite the opposite of what a true scientist's outlook is and has always been, completely open to any possibility, especially ones with unforeseen facts, yet to be discovered that can explain the why,how,what,who,where,etc that we all got into this for in the first place. Somedays we find them , and somedays we dont . Its the journey that is most important . Dont waste it by arguing about what you can not prove beyond a shadow of a doubt. The program here today lacked so many details that could go either way , unfortunately we do not have fully grown specimens from all ages on both sides to prove it one way or the other. There could be a million reasons why both suggestions are actually wrong. They could both be genetically modified reptilian dna , made into these beasts for nefarious reasons ! Hey we do not know they are not !!!
"Arms don't shrink when you grow."
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't Hoatzin birds hatch with rather gangly, clawed arms and fingers, which then fuse and re-absorb and stuff as they grow up?
I'm not saying the evidence for Nanotyrannus being its own species isn't compelling, just that birds and at least some of their dino ancestors seem very variable in their morphology as they grow up.
@@adambartlett114
_IF_ Nano-s just a young T-rex, it's possible it would have more use for proportionally larger arms than an adult, who may only need them as "love handles" if at all. I recall watching a documentary that (iirc) said young T-rexes had a vastly different diet from the adults/parents, suggesting they lived separately from the parents and hunted for themselves, in different environments, with different techniques, for different prey. Sadly I don't recall which of the countless dino docs I've watched over the years.
I'm just half-remembering and speculating, though. I've no stake in this debate, but I agree that the debates can be fun! =D
@@seleuf does that go for tails too ? That would make frogs impossible !
@@studygodsword5937 I kind of get what you’re going for, but that’s not a good example. Especially since amphibians are a completely different kingdom from dinosaurs, and there is zero evidence in the entire fossil record of any dinosaur, reptile, or bird going through anywhere close to as vast a change as amphibians go through in their life cycle.
@@SergeantBrowning the fact that 2 very different types of animals go through significant metamorphosis !
@@SergeantBrowning And insects go through it in as many as 3 different ways, shows the creativeness of God !
The cowboy with the scarf... 👀 my guy looks like Woody from toy story in real life 🤣
I find it uncanny that dinosaurs look like dragons
Ancient people also recovered fossils and made their own assumptions
I'm just starting to get into paleontology after I found a mint-condition Allosaur tooth on my families ranch. Its so cool.
A lot of supposedly new Dinosaur Species ended up being different phases of Life, for only one. Dr. Carlson did a really good Video, on the vanishing Dinosaurs. really funny and quite accurate, in my opinion. Every one wants to name a Dinosaur.
This was fascinating. Thank you for the upload. I am now a subscriber
This is just awesome. Hell of a find.
That rancher looks funny with that big blanket around his neck. That blank is bigger than he is.
@Discovery UK< it's T. rex, not T-Rex. The proper, scientific, way of abbreviating the genus and species names of an animal is to take the first letter of the genus, capitalize it, and put a . at the end. Then, comes the species name in all lower case.
Nobody cares.
@@mikes5637 I care, don't assume
The scientific community, not to mention everyone else, spells 'end', 'end', not 'ned'.
@4:51 how is it hard to consider, that maybe, like crocs....they don't necessarily 'stop growing'. Given enough food, and more time, they just get bigger.
I found some dead bones of a buffalo in my backyard, gonna pass them off as as new species.
Publish them in science journal.
become rich ans famous.
Gonna name....
Backyardsaurus.
LMAO
Careful what you wish for! Lol
Firstly Buffalo never existed in North America
I wonder what the natives used to hunt on the big wide open plains of north America.
@@futureisyours3016 Bison, not buffalo.
Honey! Imma gonna be on the TV! Where’s my best turquois shirt and that fancy scarf?
So he did NOT find T-Rex bones??? Jeez, what a title. There are many Tyrannosaur species but the Tyrannosaurus Rex is a specific species and he did not find that.... He found a new species.... That would be an accurate title.
I really love this .it's really a great program.
I remember the, "Allosaurus". If memory serves me correct, that critter predated T-Rex. They both had many similarities.
Is my memory correct ?
Allosaurus was indeed a real theropod, albeit from the Jurassic instead of the Cretaceous like the Tyrannosaurus so your memory of it predating Tyrannosaurus is also correct! Different families though and they have quite a few easy to spot differences such as Tyrannosaurus being larger, Allosaurus having three fingered hands as opposed to the 2 fingers of Tyranno, and Allosaurus's distinct crests in front of the eyes
They can't fool me! I can tell its just a big rabbit,,lmao!! Great find a love seeing the real bones intact
We had the T-rex but this new one is the Tex-Rex.
It also fills the holes for Theropods where scientists were before just using juvenile Trex to fill in for the size gaps in Therapods 👌🏾
He finds an $8 million dano while I can't even find my remote. 😔
Your not alone.I stopped carrying a wallet years ago
I know right
Here let me fix that title for you researcher discovers new dinosaur species
How do we know if the nano skeleton and the T-rex skeletons dont actually reprsent the T-rex's different genders with either the male or female being the naturally larger representation of the species?
Couldn't have happened to a better guy! Congratulations!
Imagine being an ordinary Joe in the comments without a PhD or scientific degree of any kind and still attempting to talk down to and rebuke a paleontologist who’s been at this longer than they have.
Some speculation going on here.....it's not as cut and dry as they want you to believe.
Amazing, Find.
I found a bone in my backyard a few years ago. I was sure it was a T-Rex. Thought I was rich, started buying cars and planning luxury trips around the world. Turned out to be an old cow .
SPOOKSTR That's terrible but please, don't call my mom an old cow..... She just escapes sometimes!
xD
Halloween costumes is cowboy
Alternate Title: Rancher Does Not Find T-Rex Bones
What’s with the scarf?
Fashion, probably
It's cold in the summer heat..
5:33 just when I think discovery is actually being rather reasonable with their analysis, they pull a fast one with this
Funny how my links stay on the senators TH-cam's
Thanks for these great videos!
"Rancher Finds T-Rex Bones That Turn Out To Be A Brand New Dinosaur Species"
- more clickbait nonsense
- this and other purported specimens are NOT confirmed as a new species
what a sad cringe fest
Nice work 👍🔥
There's plenty of talented people who make good 3d models nowadays, whoever was responsible for that turbosquid level trex animations should be fired.
great thanks. respect from the UK Dino guys
Don't think that guy is a real cowboy, just playing dress up
If he was the real deal he wouldn't have to keep mentioning it. And he would tone it down with the ascot.
@@michaeldose2041 haha you said ascot
The most shocking part of this video is the ranchers flamboyant scarf.
Whats up with the scarf? Dude looks ridiculous.
You look ridiculous
Maybe cause it’s cold ever thought of that
From your Playlists, I Can Tell you have no Friends and Spend all your Time on TH-cam and Social Media LOL
@@iziyobisi FroM yOuR rEpLy I cAn tELl yOU hAvE No fRiEnDS aNd sPeND All yOuR tIMe oN yOuTube aND sOcIAl mEdIa lol
@@repetemyname842 nice, couldn't think of anything so you just copy. grow up brotha, go outside or sum
accountant turned rancher.. love the cosplay!
its gotta be true, when it is shown in a discovery channel series ... where else do real scientists publish their work?
Scientific journals
The Discovery Channel simply followed the discovery of this specimen, it's gonna take years for it to be properly diagnosed and submitted for peer review in a scientific journal. The scientist in this clip made some pretty compelling observations though, and his perspective is certainly not to be taken lightly.
I am inclined to believe Nanotyrannus is a juvenile T rex, but the evidence presented here for the seperate species hypothesis is quite striking. I cannot find any logical reason why the arm bones and claws would actually shrink in adulthood. It is just not feasible. The fusion of the nasal bones is good evidence but not conclusive due to variability of the rate and proportion of fusion between individuals being plausible, especially when it is a known phenomenon in contemporary species including our own.
The disappointing part is that it's gonna take YEARS for this specimen to be properly diagnosed and submitted for peer review.
If it ever is, they said they were auctioning the skeleton as these are independent fossil diggers. No guarantee it will be bought by a Museum/scientific organization to be studied vs being bought by some insanely wealthy private collector who will just lock it away in their private collection
What a SCARY world it must have been in those days!!
Such freaking awesome sh*t!!!
Probably just chicken bones. A huge one
So when one of these fossil skeletons is found, the dirt and the rock that it is found in - that envelopes the fossil - is just as important as the fossil itself ? Because in order to calculate how long the fossil has been there - it's age - they have to perform radio metric dating on the dirt and the rock that encased the fossil?
Once in 10 lifetimes?? Calm down mate, you didn’t discover the meaning of life.
Yeah, That is a once in 10 Lifetimes find. Sounds like Someone's Jealous LOL
@@iziyobisi It's fake. Stop believing everything you see. People can't find any remains of an ANCIENT species
@@jerrelalexander2732 Your Statement is False. Sources: National Geographic, the American Museum of Natural History and The Natural History Museum (UK).
The Remains are Bones.
I Don't Believe Everything I See lmao. Simple Research Shows it. I Gave 3 Sources, and you can Use them to do your Own Research. Stop Using your Thoughts as Fact, because they are just Thoughts.
@@jerrelalexander2732 brainlette
@@iziyobisi it's not like he can't go walk a creek somewhere and find all kinds of shark teeth in half this country if he lives in America.