Reminds me how notorious the Aussie Philips K9 was. As you mentioned with the G8, the flyback tuning cap was prone to going open, resulting in very high EHT. A trail of damage in some cases. Incidentally, K9 had an old style turret tuner rather than buttons, as varacaps didn’t have enough range to accommodate the oddball channel 5a on 134.25Mhz (139.75mhz audio).
Just like when I went to do a tear-down on an unwanted BetacamSP player. But then I found it almost worked. Then I thought I would investigate the fault. An hour later I've fixed the machine I was going to scrap. But it made an interesting TH-cam video and I saved something from the scrap heap. You know you want to fix it really.
Super job Buddy , This takes Me back to the 80,s 90,s when living at home fiddling+fixing radios,tv,s and anything with a plug...(I,LL Have A Go) for Beer+Petrol money...lucky the library was just down the street They had a super radio/tv repair seleation and other tech books being next door to a tech collage...O Happy day,s..KEEP FINDING FIDDLING AND FIXING...BETTER THAN THE THE SOAP,S.......AHHHHHHH.....
I am amazed it does as much as it does, that poor old set looks like it spent 20 years in a swamp! I used to grab discarded sets from local dealers back in the day, but always avoided the G8's due to the LOPT failures (and the weight!).
OMG The days of Old, Philips G8, 1977 I first got my hands on one of these, Replacement of a few standard components then the convergance setup, they were very good when working, great RF signal stage Sharp & Crisp, I had my Cross Hatch Gen that had one of the Philips IF Modules in, purchased from a Electronics Kit supplier, the days of old, Now, if it does not work, Replace the PCB !, surface mount technology is what came along, follow the block flow chart and replace PCB !, not exactly what I was taught as a Teenager in the 1970's, service manuals should be FULL Service manual including diagrams, BOM, PCB - Component layout etc, now its replace PCB A1 if fault is shown in flow chart section, not a real TV Engineers job these days like it was in the 1970's, al you need is a screwdriver, Van and a few box's of PCB's to replace, call me old fasioned but that's the fun of finding faults "Down to coponent level" not PCB Exchange, I rework SMD's to a point (Not BGA's) where you do need special equipment & IR heaters top - bottom of the PCB ! Interesting video the Philips G8's were a great picture in the day's Thanks :)
29:15 hehe when you connected the tripler, all the dust inside the TV moved towards the CRT :-) So with all the information given, Philips G8 for me now translates to CRT donor :-P
I can remember my parents renting one of those. Didn't have it long, guess it might had LOPT problem. Good job on getting something on screen given the state of it. Keep making the videos, Daz
Life is always so much better after a refreshing brew! My goodness, almost the complete opposite of one of Shango's parched and petrified desert find TV's haha. I guess the tellies with frequent LOPT failures will (almost) always have pretty decent tubes. Looking forward to seeing you get a picture on it fingers-crossed! 🤞📺☕
@@DaveBrown1 I worked for Visionhire in the 70sand 80s. Phillips 550 G8 and 660 G11. Great times. Convergence panel burn ups. Thyrister s/c. Great video. Brings back memories.
@@COCHRANE55 I worked for Visionhire (Leeds) via British Relay, then of course we were renamed Serviscope eventually taken over by Granada and then in came the redundancy package. Fond memories apart from the awful service manager !
Line output transformers on these sets lost me two of them. On one, a repairer botched it and it ran with problems for a long time before the picture expanded and darkened and smoke appeared.
Want your advice I have a small collection of old Tvs and Radios have often should I run them up to make sure they still work. I ask this as my mate switched on a modern internet tuner thing after five years and it blew up. Mind you the newer stuff is not of same quality as the old kit anyway
Wow that takes me back! Last time I saw one of these would have been the mid 1980s. I was a young 'un in primary school, and they had one of these in a large wheeled cabinet, with the obligatory Ferguson Videostar VCR underneath.
I havn't seen one of those sets for 30 years, i was about 20 when i used to fix them. I still have the service manual for the g8 (God knows why) and a decca service manual (Transformer killers) lol. I didn't expect it to work at all, i think the vertical drive board is the one under the line output. Possibly the board connector to chassis is mucky as hell. I'm wondering if the reason you had so many lopt's fail was the fault of the psu, they drifted in time and went above the 205 volts, then went Bang!!, maybe the lopt was over driven. Hey you have a good play around untill you are bored then chuck it back in the skip, it's too nasty to recover. Nice to see an old g8 again :-D
The set I had i had the ht set for 200v and it had the slow start mod. The lopts had a known problem with insulation and Philips acknowledged this. The replacement lopts were available at a low price so no-one minded. They we're good performers when set up right and I was quite fond of mine bit in the end it turned me off the G8 forever. I've checked the plug socket and it's okay. More to come in a few weeks........
Hello Ojnoj ..Remember one these burning down a house in the 70's..I had a number of them in the past. faults i can remember were L.O.P.T fails plus tripler burns up and dies focus problems..Those preselect buttons drift off..They hated any damp conditions i always dried them out with a hair drier..The Cap leaks and tracks ..Thanks for posting..
God this takes me back we had this tv it was great lasted years so we were lucky had the stand and really did look smart lasted well into the late 80s . also the tv Marc Bolan had and used for a photo shoot in his back garden
My first personal colour TV ( the house TV was a Decca Bradford buy I wanted a set of my own in my bedroom /) . I was out on my motorbike one day and in the entrance to an old lane in the middle of the country were a pile of 3 G,8's .The vandals had found them and 2 had smashed tubes . I got my dad to pick up the remains in his car and I managed to assemble one full working set from the bits . This was around 1978 and it served me faithfully for many years . The only fault I had was failure of one of the line output transistors ( gives a large dim picture ) .
Remember these old sets, they had their 'stock faults' but were generally reliable. I used to buy them off the 'pile', ex rentals from a dealer in Omagh N.Ireland, fixed them up and made a few quid. 😎
I hated the Philips G8.. I only ever took the back off of about 5 or 6 of them during a period of 5 years.... However, it took at least half an hour to get the back cover back on with those ridiculous floppy knobs hanging out the holes in the back cover.... These must of wasted many hundreds or thousands or millions of man hours just getting the back on....
Ah..... Age creepeth upon thee! I lost contact with frequencies above 10kHz many years ago, let alone 15 and then some. I find it handy to keep a cheap MW radio nearby, that way I can wave that around, close to the LOPT. That usually tells me if there's any line stage activity. Now, funnily enough, my grandparents had a G8. They rented it, even though my granddad was ex trade. He always reckoned it was a better deal than buying what might well turn out to be an expensive item if it went wrong. Thing was, I don't ever remember that telly needing repairs. They moved house about 1972, and not long after, got the G8 after a lifetime of being a GEC, dyed in the wool, fan. He died in 1982, and my grandmother kept that set until she had to move into a nursing home after her stroke, about 1989/90. Someone certainly got their money's worth out of it.
That brings back memories. Nice video. Yep changed lot of crt’s lopty and triple’s in my time. I liked the Philips G11 better and the Thorn TX10, they where the big rentals at the time.👍
Charmaine, my friend from junior school had one of these sets. Of course it was single standard UHF 625 line, being in the UK. The buttons used to be BBC1 BBC2 ITV on the top and BBC1 ITV and VCR on the bottom. Did I love Charmaine only for her G8 was something I've never considered until now....
Great video, would be nice to see it working one last time as a complete set. I love G8’s for some reason. Had my LOPT go up in smoke and flames a few months back. That was fun. Managed to find a very reasonably priced replacement. Daft question perhaps, but were they all meant to have that metal cover over the LOPT? Mine’s missing one and I’m 99% certain it’s got a screw hole for one.
Hi, yes it should have the cover. I don't think it matters all that much though. I am doubtful I'll be able to get it going again but I'll try. It's off the be bench and safe for now.
Thought so, it's an odd set (That one you sent me 4 of the 5.1nF 1500v caps for that still haven't showed up!) Has all the stickers for a G22K522, but's a G26K522? I reckon it's had its complete chassis replaced. I'm sure you'll get her up and running, you always seem to! If/when you do scrap the set I'd be interested in the LOPT cover, just so it's a complete set. Costs covered of course.
Really is, my guess would be shipping between Ireland and England. It'll be even weirder if they turn up at all now! Thanks for the cover, let me know how much you want for it and postage and i'll paypal it over
Why does repairing old televisions build character? It teaches you to face set backs. All right, don't all laugh at once. I regarded this as a fancy TV owned by posh people when I was growing up in NE England in the 1970s. Well, times were hard and we only had a rented B&W TV that seemed to be faulty more often than working. Yes, rented from a local shop. We should have gone to Radio Rentals.
Those SCR G8 supplies are tricky. I've got the earlier chassis G8, which I too found next to (thankfully not in!) a skip, still on its original stand. On mine, the mains dropper was open, the main smoothing can had exploded and the SCR was short circuit. Always gives a great picture and has been pretty damn reliable now that's it's all done 👍
Spent many a happy hour replacing LOPT's on g8's in my dads old tv shop. I seem to remember there was a fairly common problem with a huge resistor with about 6 pins in the PSU as well.
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ah memories .
My Sister worked in a television sale and rental shop. Every week we had a different T. V. Including one of these. Great video.
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Thanks Jon Graf video look forward to the next part 👍
Reminds me how notorious the Aussie Philips K9 was. As you mentioned with the G8, the flyback tuning cap was prone to going open, resulting in very high EHT. A trail of damage in some cases. Incidentally, K9 had an old style turret tuner rather than buttons, as varacaps didn’t have enough range to accommodate the oddball channel 5a on 134.25Mhz (139.75mhz audio).
Just like when I went to do a tear-down on an unwanted BetacamSP player. But then I found it almost worked. Then I thought I would investigate the fault. An hour later I've fixed the machine I was going to scrap. But it made an interesting TH-cam video and I saved something from the scrap heap. You know you want to fix it really.
I'll try...
Super job Buddy , This takes Me back to the 80,s 90,s when living at home fiddling+fixing radios,tv,s and anything with a plug...(I,LL Have A Go) for Beer+Petrol money...lucky the library was just down the street They had a super radio/tv repair seleation and other tech books being next door to a tech collage...O Happy day,s..KEEP FINDING FIDDLING AND FIXING...BETTER THAN THE THE SOAP,S.......AHHHHHHH.....
Thanks Geoff.
I am amazed it does as much as it does, that poor old set looks like it spent 20 years in a swamp!
I used to grab discarded sets from local dealers back in the day, but always avoided the G8's due to the LOPT failures (and the weight!).
I forgot quite how heavy they were Mark.
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Real 70s and 80s Colour TV that is
Never seen anyone do vintage european electronics videos, at least from what I can find, definetally going to be a subscriber.
Thanks for the kind comments.
@@IrishvintageTVRadio👏👏👏👏 parabéns pelo vídeo...
OMG The days of Old, Philips G8, 1977 I first got my hands on one of these, Replacement of a few standard components then the convergance setup, they were very good when working, great RF signal stage Sharp & Crisp, I had my Cross Hatch Gen that had one of the Philips IF Modules in, purchased from a Electronics Kit supplier, the days of old, Now, if it does not work, Replace the PCB !, surface mount technology is what came along, follow the block flow chart and replace PCB !, not exactly what I was taught as a Teenager in the 1970's, service manuals should be FULL Service manual including diagrams, BOM, PCB - Component layout etc, now its replace PCB A1 if fault is shown in flow chart section, not a real TV Engineers job these days like it was in the 1970's, al you need is a screwdriver, Van and a few box's of PCB's to replace, call me old fasioned but that's the fun of finding faults "Down to coponent level" not PCB Exchange, I rework SMD's to a point (Not BGA's) where you do need special equipment & IR heaters top - bottom of the PCB !
Interesting video the Philips G8's were a great picture in the day's
Thanks :)
Thank you.
Done hundreds of em back in the day, we had them sussed, didnt throw up too many surprises, if its not in the ftb check the transducer
29:15 hehe when you connected the tripler, all the dust inside the TV moved towards the CRT :-)
So with all the information given, Philips G8 for me now translates to CRT donor :-P
Great stuff jon Joe I've been waiting for a video on a phillips g8 love it
I can remember my parents renting one of those. Didn't have it long, guess it might had LOPT problem. Good job on getting something on screen given the state of it. Keep making the videos, Daz
Life is always so much better after a refreshing brew! My goodness, almost the complete opposite of one of Shango's parched and petrified desert find TV's haha. I guess the tellies with frequent LOPT failures will (almost) always have pretty decent tubes. Looking forward to seeing you get a picture on it fingers-crossed! 🤞📺☕
Not so sure we'll see a picture on this. You never know though.
Hi the G8 G9 , i think they were designed by some one who hated TV engineers.Put it back in the skip.
You're on the right track..
Visionhire used to have lots of these out on rental. Although they had their issues, they were easy to fix.
Yup spent many happy year's fixing them..... BD131 in the frame output
@@DaveBrown1 I worked for Visionhire in the 70sand 80s. Phillips 550 G8 and 660 G11. Great times. Convergence panel burn ups. Thyrister s/c. Great video. Brings back memories.
@@COCHRANE55 I worked for Visionhire (Leeds) via British Relay, then of course we were renamed Serviscope eventually taken over by Granada and then in came the redundancy package. Fond memories apart from the awful service manager !
I'm no fan of tea bags, but am bag out when making tea that way.
like putting life into Frankenstein 🙂
Yea, once he doesn't hope off the bench and chase me...
Line output transformers on these sets lost me two of them. On one, a repairer botched it and it ran with problems for a long time before the picture expanded and darkened and smoke appeared.
I remember when it seemed that every house I went in had one of these. Pretty impressed you got anything at all out of it.
IMHO putting the crt into an A823 would be a backwards step! A823 tubes always gave a flat picture, but the G8 made then sparkle
I have a 697 and an CVC9 as well....
@@IrishvintageTVRadio you mean waiting for that tube?
Want your advice I have a small collection of old Tvs and Radios have often should I run them up to make sure they still work. I ask this as my mate switched on a modern internet tuner thing after five years and it blew up. Mind you the newer stuff is not of same quality as the old kit anyway
It sounds like the electrolytic blew up in your mates gear. I would say go ahead and power up your stuff, deal with problems as they arise.
Wow that takes me back! Last time I saw one of these would have been the mid 1980s. I was a young 'un in primary school, and they had one of these in a large wheeled cabinet, with the obligatory Ferguson Videostar VCR underneath.
bag in and black tea
Only black when the milk is sour!
I havn't seen one of those sets for 30 years, i was about 20 when i used to fix them.
I still have the service manual for the g8 (God knows why) and a decca service manual (Transformer killers) lol.
I didn't expect it to work at all, i think the vertical drive board is the one under the line output.
Possibly the board connector to chassis is mucky as hell.
I'm wondering if the reason you had so many lopt's fail was the fault of the psu, they drifted in time and went above the 205 volts, then went Bang!!, maybe the lopt was over driven.
Hey you have a good play around untill you are bored then chuck it back in the skip, it's too nasty to recover.
Nice to see an old g8 again :-D
The set I had i had the ht set for 200v and it had the slow start mod. The lopts had a known problem with insulation and Philips acknowledged this. The replacement lopts were available at a low price so no-one minded. They we're good performers when set up right and I was quite fond of mine bit in the end it turned me off the G8 forever. I've checked the plug socket and it's okay. More to come in a few weeks........
Hello Ojnoj ..Remember one these burning down a house in the 70's..I had a number of them in the past. faults i can remember were
L.O.P.T fails plus tripler burns up and dies focus problems..Those preselect buttons drift off..They hated any damp conditions i always dried them out with a hair drier..The Cap leaks and tracks ..Thanks for posting..
God this takes me back we had this tv it was great lasted years so we were lucky had the stand and really did look smart lasted well into the late 80s . also the tv Marc Bolan had and used for a photo shoot in his back garden
G8 & G11 staple diet for Visionhire in the North of Ireland for several years in the day!
My first personal colour TV ( the house TV was a Decca Bradford buy I wanted a set of my own in my bedroom /) . I was out on my motorbike one day and in the entrance to an old lane in the middle of the country were a pile of 3 G,8's .The vandals had found them and 2 had smashed tubes . I got my dad to pick up the remains in his car and I managed to assemble one full working set from the bits . This was around 1978 and it served me faithfully for many years . The only fault I had was failure of one of the line output transistors ( gives a large dim picture ) .
I liked these sets back in the day. I couldn't get enough from.the second hand market for my little shop. We went over to GEC in the end
Remember these old sets, they had their 'stock faults' but were generally reliable.
I used to buy them off the 'pile', ex rentals from a dealer in Omagh N.Ireland, fixed them up and made a few quid. 😎
I used to work on these , it brings back memory's
The number of those bloody pushbutton units I cleaned out during the 80s. Think I still remember how to do them...
do you run a repair shop? cause im in dublin and need some repairs on tvs
No, I don't run a shop. If you email me a pictures of the sets I might be able to advise better.
I hated the Philips G8.. I only ever took the back off of about 5 or 6 of them during a period of 5 years.... However, it took at least half an hour to get the back cover back on with those ridiculous floppy knobs hanging out the holes in the back cover.... These must of wasted many hundreds or thousands or millions of man hours just getting the back on....
Ah..... Age creepeth upon thee! I lost contact with frequencies above 10kHz many years ago, let alone 15 and then some. I find it handy to keep a cheap MW radio nearby, that way I can wave that around, close to the LOPT. That usually tells me if there's any line stage activity.
Now, funnily enough, my grandparents had a G8. They rented it, even though my granddad was ex trade. He always reckoned it was a better deal than buying what might well turn out to be an expensive item if it went wrong. Thing was, I don't ever remember that telly needing repairs. They moved house about 1972, and not long after, got the G8 after a lifetime of being a GEC, dyed in the wool, fan. He died in 1982, and my grandmother kept that set until she had to move into a nursing home after her stroke, about 1989/90. Someone certainly got their money's worth out of it.
That brings back memories. Nice video. Yep changed lot of crt’s lopty and triple’s in my time. I liked the Philips G11 better and the Thorn TX10, they where the big rentals at the time.👍
Charmaine, my friend from junior school had one of these sets. Of course it was single standard UHF 625 line, being in the UK. The buttons used to be BBC1 BBC2 ITV on the top and BBC1 ITV and VCR on the bottom. Did I love Charmaine only for her G8 was something I've never considered until now....
Great video, would be nice to see it working one last time as a complete set. I love G8’s for some reason. Had my LOPT go up in smoke and flames a few months back. That was fun. Managed to find a very reasonably priced replacement.
Daft question perhaps, but were they all meant to have that metal cover over the LOPT?
Mine’s missing one and I’m 99% certain it’s got a screw hole for one.
Hi, yes it should have the cover. I don't think it matters all that much though. I am doubtful I'll be able to get it going again but I'll try. It's off the be bench and safe for now.
Thought so, it's an odd set (That one you sent me 4 of the 5.1nF 1500v caps for that still haven't showed up!) Has all the stickers for a G22K522, but's a G26K522? I reckon it's had its complete chassis replaced.
I'm sure you'll get her up and running, you always seem to!
If/when you do scrap the set I'd be interested in the LOPT cover, just so it's a complete set. Costs covered of course.
It's a mystery where those caps ended up. Consider the cover yours.
Really is, my guess would be shipping between Ireland and England.
It'll be even weirder if they turn up at all now!
Thanks for the cover, let me know how much you want for it and postage and i'll paypal it over
Grand, it'll be a few weeks.
The Philips 550/G8 was the best TV you could buy in the 70s.
Why does repairing old televisions build character? It teaches you to face set backs. All right, don't all laugh at once.
I regarded this as a fancy TV owned by posh people when I was growing up in NE England in the 1970s. Well, times were hard and we only had a rented B&W TV that seemed to be faulty more often than working. Yes, rented from a local shop. We should have gone to Radio Rentals.
Wow a working LOPT amazing😮
I saw an Avo 8 on the floor .. while you were using the knacker cracker on the crt .. the tuner used to go also in them G8 ..
Wish I'd had the hindsight to save the tube labels as this guy has, and framed them
Those SCR G8 supplies are tricky. I've got the earlier chassis G8, which I too found next to (thankfully not in!) a skip, still on its original stand. On mine, the mains dropper was open, the main smoothing can had exploded and the SCR was short circuit. Always gives a great picture and has been pretty damn reliable now that's it's all done 👍
Spent many a happy hour replacing LOPT's on g8's in my dads old tv shop. I seem to remember there was a fairly common problem with a huge resistor with about 6 pins in the PSU as well.
always CLEAN them out befor you repair them... dust can create serious fire !
No
I just finished watching a Phillips g8 I.f panel on e-bay (03/09/23) 11 bids think it was n.o.s price £210 😕
Oh.
Have you ever worked on a Philips TV that has a shield inside with an x-ray warning on it? Thanks for posting , very interesting
NO second Part? 😊😇
How getting on repairing this tv