GWR vs M&SWJR at Wolfhall Junction
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So we've started a new playlist. "Hidden Railway Relics". This will take us through the history of various structures from Viaducts, to lost tunnels. Its a slightly new style for us, so do let us know what you think.
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This time round we explore the junction on the south side of Savernake Forest in Wiltshire were the Midlands and South Western Junction Railway crossed the existing GWR Line. We look ensuing battle between the two companies and the history of the structures left today for all to see.
Big thanks to Stephanie Maxine Williams for help with the new title intro. Steph's channel is here: / thestephiboop
Other important contributions and thanks:
By Brian Robert Marshall, CC BY-SA 2.0, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...
Picture: Richard Martin
Picture: TB Sands
Website: www.swindonsotherrailway.co.uk
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Love the joking around and the fun you two have, incl the self deprecating comments, you two get on so well - that's up lifting.
Excellent information being in nearby Swindon and Canal lover. In fact back in the 60s spent weekends clearing K&A canal.for Duke of Edinburgh award?
Brilliant. Two bridges over a canal right next door to each other. Why railway companies in the 1860s couldn't work together for the common good = to make money, only God knows. A fantastic film Paul. Again your historical knowledge is fabulous.
Very interesting video thank you
Thank you
The origins of the Savernake Canal tunnel are a little bit more complicated, I think; the original plan was for a very long tunnel from Crofton to Wootton Rivers and then on to the 'long pound' which extends, without any locks, to Devizes. However the cost was prohibitive, and the shareholders were increasingly reluctant to pay further calls, so the alternative scheme of a pumping station from Wilton Water to the short summit pound, with the much shorter Savernake tunnel, came into being. If it was intended that the summit pound was to be entirely in a cutting, then it would have been very deep indeed. As it happens the tunnel forms a very convenient location for the railway to cross from the N. side to the S. side of the canal, although in steam days Savernake was a notorious bank.
Another great video! I've passed over Bruce Tunnel many times and one day I'll get round to walking along the Kennet & Avon Canal.
Cheers Henry, make sure you do, there are some gems along the canal in that area.
excellent presentation
Thank you good Sir. 👍👍
I found this video answered a question from an Australian friend who visited Crofton Pumping Station some years ago with me. After the visit we walked around and found several bridge abutments and relics of various railway lines and he was curious as to which routes they were I didn't have an OS map so could not give an answer. Thanks for another entertaining and informative video. Brian.
Thanks Brian. Certainly one of my favourite railway landscapes.
I applaud your research, and love the intro logo- very swish!
Liked, subbed, and shared!
- Jo
Thank you Jo. Much appreciated. 👍
Investigated the bridges a few years back when going along the canal with my Explorer Scouts had to do a quick look at all the old railways lines around the area much to there disgust!. The tunnel is fantastic to go through great fun.
Never been through the tunnel, would love to!
The lines between Savernake and Marlborough were rationalized by the GW in the 1930's, when they built a connection from the GW station at Savernake across to the M&SWJ line, and closed the Marlborough railway line apart from the original station which was retained for shunting.
BR closed the M&SWJ station in the early 1950's and diverted all traffic through the GW station. The entire M&SWJ was closed in 1961, but a freight service to Marlborough continued for a few years.
Loving catching up on the back catalogue while I'm doing doing jobs round the house
Steady on Nick..... Not too many jobs.
@@pwhitewick enough to keep the peace but not enough to stop me catching up.on you tube
There was a further line at Wolfhall forming a chord from Wolfhall to the GW line branching off just after the Crofton pumping station.
It's a bit of a mystery to me how this came to be built as I'd have thought that the costs involved were disproportionate to the traffic, which could have been taken to Savernake and shunted onto the M&SWJR via the exchange sidings there. I suspect that the answer is that it was used for military traffic.
This line never had a regular passenger service, and I believe it was abandoned in 1958.
Wow. Love the video. And the Intro
Thanks Jon. Trying to up my game a little!
Interesting speaking of which it'll be interesting to find out how M&swJR got running rights between between cheltenham Lansdown Station Which will not count by the way as its still a current Station and Andoversford Junction. Remember that the GWR as far as I'm aware owned that line also putting a switch in at Cheltenham to switch from LMS metals to GWR would have caused problems.
Yes that's worthly of a little research. At the time and don't think GWR owed that stretch of line, are we referring to the Banbury and Cheltenham Line. I think GWR took that over in the last 1890's?
Very snazzy intro. Is waffling and standing still easier or harder than waffling and walking?
Much harder waffling and standing!.... Generally that means I'm trying to remember a paragraph or two. As Rebecca will testify I am certain not a "one take" Paul.
pwhitewick yeaaaaaah XD
Happy that I finally liked a vid of yours? -_-
35 videos done.... About time my step daughter liked one! 😜😁😁
pwhitewick don’t expect this to be an every-upload thing, I was board
Amazing how the lines were duplicated between the K&A junction and Marlborough isn't it? I find it fascinating when competing companies would rather fund expensive duplicate infrastructure than compromise and share resources to the benefit of both.
It wasn't just a railway thing, either: There were canal companies "oop north" that duplicated whole stretches of cut, simply because they couldn't agree on things such as water usage and tolls! Also, if memory serves, I think Gas Street basin in Brum had a dock between two canals that meant goods had to be offloaded, then manually carried 10 feet or so acrosss the dock, before being loaded onto a boat on the other canal, simply because the companies wouldn't compromise! Anyway, I'm waffling. But, I'm slowly working my way through your engrossing videos, and enjoying every one.
Sounds very familiar!. Cheers for watching, glad you are enjoying. 👍👍