boi if someone don't get MatPat on this shit imma be mad. I gotta know. Does he qualify? Can we have a Godzilla and Clifford crossover? Will the weird side of deviantart start drawing CliffordxMothra smut? So many questions
“Run, it’s Godzilla” “It looks like Godzilla but due to international copyright laws, it’s not” “Still we should run like it is Godzilla” “Though it isn’t”
Because it's quite the opposite: Specification is not what attracts philosophers, vague functionality is. The vagueness feeds them as they seek to play with and stretch the intentions and use of words and concepts until they touch everything else. /jk
@@Canido19 Nah, vagueness means you have to do the work yourself. Specificity means someone else is making claims, and claims are an argument, and arguments can be WRONG >:D Philosophers have much more fun telling their peers why their argument is bad than they do making sure their own arguments are correct.
@@ilkkarautio2449 Put another way: scientists are abstractly specific, philosophers are specifically abstract. It's all in the differences in how they explain the peculiarities of their respective fields.
and now he walks among a grateful world, where those crazy gods aren't drinking oceans, punching mountains or killing each other as pranks. Like Thanos, but more successful and much better in a moral sense.
I've always said (in reference to Dungeons and Dragons, specifically) "sometimes monsters are people and sometimes people are monsters". I do appreciate the addition of "and sometimes *monsters* are monsters.
@@redkraken6516 Never JUST people. They're either plot points, motivations, macguffins, or sometimes, just an NPC there to die to illustrate "the horror of X"
I'm not sure if that qualifies as a "fun" fact but that's actually very interesting that they put so much thought into it and how Japan didn't really view the nukes and firebombing too differently.
"Monsters are tragic beings. They are born too tall, too strong, too heavy. They are not evil by choice. That is their tragedy. They do not attack people because they want to, but because of their size and strength, mankind has no other choice but to defend himself. After several stories such as this, people end up having a kind of affection for the monsters. They end up caring about them." - Ishiro Honda
So many times, I watch/read a Frankenstein's monster story, only to want to hug the monster, and share a sandwich with them. Allegory: The mistaken creations we make will haunt us and possibly destroy us, if we don't find some positive way for them to exist alongside us.
Just gonna say it the way I said it back in "that" game... and countless RPG"s since... "Alright, GM, you want me dead? I can be good with that... ...but YOU'RE gonna have to kill me. I'm goin' down sluggin'... every roll.... ...every step... ...every syllable... ...every f***ed up inch..." ;o)
That's basically what Emmerich did in Godzilla (1994) and apparently the japaneses hated it to the point to unbaptese his Godzilla ! (Please leave Zilla Alone !!!) (The movie is still nice AND has the "Kaiju weight" AND has french Jean Reno mimicking a US GI with bad french accent and gum ! Cette scène est hilarante !!!)
This would actually be a fantastic point to catapult into a another Trope talk: The Alien Savior. The mysterious being like Ultraman, Dr. WHO, Superman who do what humans could not and how we should learn from them, or how we end up corrupting them.
"Guillermo del Toro is a man who understands monsters. He understands the complex interplay between humanity and inhumanity and he knows that sometimes a person is a monster, sometimes a monster is a person and sometimes a monster is a monster." And that's why I'm EXTREMELY frustrated that he couldn't do the adaptation of the manga "Monster" in a TV series.
Ahhhh I need that ! Also his Lovecraft adaptation Also his (cancelled) Silent Hill movie with Junji Ito. Man he has so many stuff which he couldn't or hasn't yet got funding for.
"You could say its a mysterious color, unlike any seen on Earth." I see she's has a some flashbacks of H.P Lovecraft's "The Colour out of Space". It probably scarred for having to say those words so many times.
according to the movie coming out that color is just purple. Also it seems like more of a pet cemetery grotesque jump scare than slow burning existential dread. Lovecraft doesn't transfer well to visual medium, especially when micro managing movie studios insist on cramming in their usual genre stereotype tropes.
"Here we see a wild philosopher in their natural habitat. Watch as it does something that is unique to their species." (Philosopher does some philosophizing.) "Marvelous."
Why is everyone coming here to let me know I'm actually totally wrong about it being a great Godzilla sound effect? ... Why are you booing me, I'M RIGHT
I think the "nuclear power/bombs being good now" narrative for the modern movies might also stem from the fact that nuclear power is currently our most viable alternative to coal/oil power. Since, as you stated, we currently use the modern kaiju as an allegory for global warming, the narrative might be switching to tell us that nuclear power is our salvation in this sense.
@Mr. Fish That's not what they're saying at all. Most people seem to have this negative idea of Nuclear power due to a handful of nuclear incidents but with proper matinance and a plan nuclear power plants can often be cleaner, and safer then the alternatives. I mean if people talked about Oil spills, and wildfires with a fraction of the pasion as they do a handful of nuclear incidents then most people would drive electric cars.
@@thekey0123 I know, I was just kidding. In the movies, it's portrayed with a bomb to revive GZ, and I thought it'd be funny. Personally, I'm for investing in renewables and fusion before fission, explicitly concerning waste. I think fission is the perfect transitionary energy source between a mostly carbon-fueled society to a fusion one with nuclear waste as a downside. I know methods for dealing with nuclear waste are effective enough now, but like all materials, it'll get harder to manage when the scale grows significantly larger. And for PR reasons, it's the last material you'd want to have an accident with, because the general public cares more when "nuclear" and "radioactive" are involved, rather than just environmentalists. Also, the common process of digging up a hole to drop it in and closing off the area uses a lot of space, which is becoming a lot more precious by the year. I'm saying that the space it may take up on a massive scale may be consequential, but I'm not an urban planner or a scientist, so I could easily be wrong.
Would he represent the potential loss of herd immunity at the hands of people with their heads too deep into their own ass? Because I'm on board with a massive red disease spreading dog.
@@hitsunakousaka9497 Back away from the radioactive lizard Monty Python: Run Away! Runaway! Austin Powers: It looks like Godzilla, but due to international copyright law...it's not. Still we should run like it is Godzilla
It's only a matter of time. The only hard part of nuclear weapons (once you know they exist, anyway) is getting your hands on and refining the material... and that was done as a sideshow with eighty year old technology.
@@boobah5643 My high school physics professor said pretty much the same thing. Making the bomb was easy, so long as you had the fissile material (I mean, one of the bombs dropped on Japan triggered the explosion by firing a bullet of fissile material into another piece of it, IIRC). I am curious, though, what you are referring to when you mention a "sideshow"
@@wolv0223 Weapons grade fissile material is created by the operation of nuclear reactors. The hard part of the manhattan project was getting a working reactor.
think the understanding of how devestating and dangerous nuclear weapons are is kinda imbedded into the souls of humanity. no one wants to be the man who launchesi t cause they will die soon after. true people keep on making new and more dangerous ones but not a single warhead has been used in active warfare and honestly, i wouldn't e entirely surprised if non of the nculear weapons are operational or there is only a couple of actually functioning ones. because the importance of the nuke is to intimidate people into not using nukes on you.
Mothra is my favourite Kaiju. Her alegorical message is “nature is mysterious, beautiful, sacred, and if you try to destroy it or use it selfishly (for profit or otherwise) it will fuck you tf up. Mothra also shows how if given the chance, space, and time required, nature will renew itself, even if mama Mothra dies, there’s always a baby Mothra waiting in the wings to step u[ when her mother passes. Also that nature’s spokespeople are tiny fey twins who sing… but I think that’s a metaphor for how nature needs people to speak up for it and remind folk how scary it can be when not well cared for. Tl;dr Mothra is the prototypical environmentalist kaiju and I love her.
never given he punished the wrong people... it were the US that tested the weapons but japan that suffered the fallout (pun intended) why would the US learn anything from that?
i always interpreted godzilla becoming a good guy despite still having nuclear powers was an optimistic portrayal of nuclear power, especially since a lot of the monsters he fights are clear allegories for pollution. nuclear power is actually very safe currently, but because of disasters like chernobyl people are still understandably nervous about the idea. its helpful to keep in mind that chernobyl was a recipe for disaster to begin with due to how it was built under a tight budget with little regards to safety and was staffed by people not properly trained for their job. in the new godzilla vs king kong it was pretty clear to me the enemy of that movie was corrupt capitalism. very fun movie.
Godzilla becoming a good guy in the Showa films has nothing to do with allegorical changes. It's a matter of real world demographics and in-universe character development.
My husband worked labor jobs in a nuclear power plant before his current job and you would not believe how careful they are there. Safety is top priority, there’s many precautions taken and if anything goes wrong they’re working to fix it immediately or shutting things down to clear up the issue before damage can be done. The nuclear plants today are a lot safer than Chernobyl
"But one man--one man, dared to stand against the tide of empty, meaningless spectacle. To raise a fist skyward in solitary defiance and say: "'If humanity were faced with an onslaught of malevolent, unstoppable giant monsters, humanity would make giant robots to punch those giant monsters IN THE FACE.'" -Red
16:11 "Focus on the only thing that really matters" Yes Red, I agree. Giant mechs that punch monsters in the face are the only thing that really matters. We just gotta get NATO on this.
@@elipsiclearts2284 The original shitposter, Diogenes, said "Behold! A man!" after plucking a chicken when Plato foolishly said that a man was a featherless biped.
Ok, so I'm sure you probably won't read this, but Godzilla means a lot to me because it's literally part of who I am. My grandfather was an general staff officer during WWII that was one of the first Americans to travel to Hiroshima after the bombs drop, where he served as support for American doctors and researchers who collected data on what the bomb did. Because of this, and the radiation he was exposed to there and potentially serving a support near test sites like Bikini Atoll, his progeny like myself suffer from a number of radiation induced genetic defects. I have muscular problems and some minor asymmetry but got lucky, most of my cousins have severe disabilities. He passed away from a brain tumor later in life likely caused by said radiation exposure. He spent the majority of his time in the military in the occupation of Japan, even after the official occupation was over, and he was still in Japan when Godzilla debuted and there's a picture of him in a local newspaper with a beautiful Japanese girl on his arm where a reporter was asking him what he thought of the movie given its nature. I think he said he was just there to enjoy the movie, but growing up it clearly deeply affected him because for the short time we had together before he passed away we watched every single Godzilla movie up until that point, and he spent a lot of time with me at a crazy young age expressing the horrors he saw on the ground at Hiroshima. Among other topics, he explained that the reason why Godzilla became a good guy was because Japan's view of nuclear power changed drastically through the 60's and 70's. The reason was that nuclear reactors began creating clean energy and gave Japan an level of economic independence from the global resource market that one some levels Japan's expansionist policy in Asia was about in the first place, which is very important because some in Japan saw their position between the US and the Soviet Union as a scary place to be both politically and physically and being caught in the middle of invading monsters represents being caught between major superpowers, with Godzilla representing Japan in the middle. Because of this, Godzilla and nuclear power was seen as an ultimate source of good forged from the wake of destruction, something that could ultimately make Japan a better, cleaner, more powerful independant nation. In fact, Godzilla was even openly used as a mascot for some of these new nuclear reactors. In the newest movies like Shin Godzilla, he goes back to being a force to be feared in reaction to the Fukushima reactor disaster. Much of the movie is about the mishandling of the disaster. So in that way Godzilla's theme, in Japanese productions, hasn't changed from the focus of being about Japan's relationship with nuclear energy. The movies are a reflection on the anxieties, fears, and hopes nuclear power brings with it across nearly a century of Japanese history now.
Thank you for writing this post, it was an incredibly enlightening read. Shows me the importance of different perspectives. Until now, I was always inclined to believe that the later Godzilla movies (as enjoyable as I found) were simply just cash grab films to make money of the name brand.
Great post, definitely a unique perspective you have there. Yeah nuclear power is a big, scary, and potentially insanely destructive threat; but people seem to forget that if used PROPERLY and CAREFULLY it can be a great source for good. And no, 1950s US military, "properly and carefully" does NOT mean using nukes to dig harbors, making nuclear-powered amphibious tanks, or turning a nuclear test into the world's most powerful potato gun and making a MANHOLE COVER the fastest man-made object in existence (yes that is a real thing they did). RTGs, power plants, and nuclear thermal rockets? Good. BIG bada-boom? Significantly less good in 99.9999% of circumstances.
Fantastic reading on the matter. I've been watching through the whole Godzilla film franchise recently (currently at the Millenium series) and now all of its Showa films have a totally different reading on me. Probably Return of Godzilla (Godzilla 1984) is the one that reflects the best that uncomfortable position Japan found itself into between the USA and the URSS, but now I can see the same reading on the others, and it adds a lot of cool extra layers to them. I admire your grandfather's wisdom to appreciate the character as a product for entertainment and yet as a powerful metaphore of the horrors he had to witnessed. It's an excellent proof of why we shouldn't take entertainment media for granted. Human beings need stories and myths, even nowadays, because of how much they keep telling us about ourselves. I wouldn't be exaggerating by considering Godzilla a modern legit myth.
Regarding the Japanese fellow detonating a nuke to revive Godzilla: I thought the metaphor was the re-armament of Japan and ending their post war pacifism in the face of immense external threats.
Honestly, that's something I think the Shin Tokusatsu films pull off better, with the argument that the JSDF is better served as a supplement and not the go-to. SPOILERS for Shin Godzilla and Shin Ultraman Solo: - They do nothing to stop Godzilla at his hypothetical weakest for fear of collateral - Fail miserably to stop his fourth form, forcing the US to step in and inadvertently make the situation WORSE. As part of a team: - Supply the equipment for the plan that ultimately does work, which involves: - Firing their armaments at carefully calculated locations to pin Godzilla. - Proceed to become more effective at stopping kaiju as depicted at the start of Shin Ultraman.
Modern Japanese attitudes towards militarism were so hard for me to _grok_ initially. It took me, I think, three watch-throughs of _GITS: SAC 2nd Gig_ to get that the good guys wanted Japan to tear up Article 9 in order to kick their subservience to (one of) the Americans.
Kaiju are for kanji/katakana word, a *japanese* thing. So godzilla is the first to *use* that word, because other nations's monster doesn't use those word.
@@jean-paulaudette9246 in Brazil is common to use "monster" as very talented person or just awesome, is also used for very strong guys and for horrible people, monster is a powerful thing after all good or bad
We actually know the King Kong thing! The director was fascinated by stop motion, and wanted to see a gorilla fight a dinosaur - The stop motion animator told him that would have to be one bloody big gorilla, and there you go. It's like that thing Frued said when someone pointed out his obvious penis fixation "Sometimes a cigar is only a cigar" - it's hardly ever true, but this one time it is. Of course the 30s had a certain way of depicting both Africa and Gorillas. It's hard to argue the subtext, but it really was a movie about a gorilla fighting a dinosaur.
The thing is, movies aren't made by one guy. Even if the director (or whoever it was you're referring to I forget atm) had innocent intentions other people with power in the production have an influence. And even if everyone had pure intentions, cultural biases are gonna leak in no matter what.
@The Phantom Subconscious and maybe what was accepted at the time. Maybe they didn't sit down and say "let's make a movie about how we hate non whites" but back then most would be casually racist so their biases and opinions on other races would be part of the media they created. Like the person above you said, their biases would leak in no matter what.
And its true. When scientists and engineers were trying to explain to their governements the power of the atom, thats the closest representation a human mind can compare it to. Its rather inaccurate as it vastly overinflate the danger of it if properly controlled and given the reverence it deserves, but close enough. Really the problem is that these same governements really just saw the appeal of a bottled sun as a weapon, and as such the entire civil infrastructure was built around the weapon, not the reactor. And that had some major consequences. Almost every single reactor built was made in the express intent that both the enrichement and even function of the reactor could be used to make weapons out of it. Little respect for the powers unleashed was given. This is how stuff like the RBMK reactor ended up being fielded into an operational unit directly (instead of being tested in a prototype unit) and fuel melting incidents from the widely fluctuating reaction of this specific reactor type was shoved under the rug, even outside the knowledge of those operating the reactors! Even in the USSR where safety was more of a suggestion, scientists always knew that a force like fission needed to be respected. This is why at the time, no one really though that a reactor could melt down so bad it would go outside its protective measures in such a catastrophic way. Because in order to do so, MULTIPLE crippling judgment errors have to be made in a very specific order and timing. Even in the case of fukushima, it was the same kind of negligence that doomed the plant despite engineers correctly identifying everything wrong with then plant design. No one could think that either the engineers or the plant managers could end up doing things so radically dumb as to ignore every single safety protocol to run an optional test, for the sake of pleasing a political entity, yet it happened... And yet it is still the safest energy BY FAR. Because either due to knowledge or popular fear, nuclear is pretty much the only energy source that is respected as being potentially catastrophic, while hydroplants, coal plants, gas plants and even solar plants regularely cause major incidents and issues, sometimes with hudreds of lives lost (and MILLIONS over the span of decades in the case of China's dirty coal plants). The fact that we have things like Godzilla to anchor the understanding of the atom as a force of destruction elevates our understanding of the risks above the rest of energy sources. The error and malice being to fear it to the point of irrationality.
@@Ribbons0121R121 The Kaiju entry on Wikipedia has a long running discussion on the talk page over whether Clifford is a Kaiju or not - this once apparently spilled over into making the Kool Aid Man a kaiju as well, which... who needs fiction, these pages are wonderful.
I remember reading a Clifford book as a kid where he was so itty bitty as a puppy that when he too a bath, he could ride on a bar of soap. He grew massive with love ❤ ❤❤❤
I joined you into that chant my friend! Pacific Rim is a joy to watch, because as Red said it doesn't fall "flat" like other modern adaptations of kaijus, but also we get to see giant robots VS. giant monsters!
@@smolbluegoblin Much as I like giant robot vs giant monster, I have tried to watch Pacific Rim several times....and I either fall asleep or get bored every single time. I've absorbed the most of the plot via cultural osmosis though, so....yeah.
Japan in the 50’s: Godzilla is a horrifying monster and an example of how we could utterly destroy ourselves and our planet Japan in the 70’s: haha big lizard go skreeooonk
Japan doesn’t want to remind itself of the past neither does the US. In fact that’s the problem with many countries they don’t want to talk about the past and when they do they skip parts and try to justify others.
I mean...in the 40s Japan WAS ACTUALLY trying to destroy the planet, just not themselves, but they were perfectly willing to destroy themselves ("One Hundred Million Souls for the Japanese Empire") because they viewed themselves as many body with one heart. And that one heart was pumping blood to decapitate, rape, biologically torture, and massacre its way through the Asiatic Isles and mainland China. No WONDER China is so fucked up after the shit they dealt with. Their own Maoist regime killing millions of them, the Japanese rape-murdering them into almost oblivion, the Germans thought-policing and just taking what they wanted....the Chinese people never mentally recovered from that shit. Anyway sorry
I like to think that the "good monster" thing in King of the Monsters is that dangerous things like nuclear energy can be harmful, but they can also be forces of good, providing clean energy to many people (and I guess the nuke scene is a bit of an apology? Idk) Think about it: Godzilla is nuclear, Rodan is thermal, and Mothra is solar, all of them can harm you, but also help you when understood and treated with respect.
I know Ghidorah's attacks are supposed to be gravity beams (whatever the hell that means) but to me and every other casual moviegoer they just look like lightning bolts. Not to mention the scene where he chomps down on an electrical transformer thingy to spam lightning out his ass. So until the day we get a decent hold of gravity, I say Ghidorah could represent raw untamed electrical energy.
Each of the Monsters of King of The Monsters basically represented some sort of connection to electricity and humanity's need for it and how that leads to pollution. Rodan? Geothermal energy when he's the good guy, coal and oil when he sides with Ghidorah. Mothra? Wind as a power source as well as solar power. Godzilla? Hydrodynamic dams at first, but when he goes all thermonuclear, he's representative of nuclear power. Ghidorah? He's mankind's hunger for electricity and representative of the resulting global warming. The message? Mankind's need for electricity is enormous, and no single source of energy can fulfill it. We can try to limit it, but that won't work (trying to kill Ghidorah fails every time) - the only way to beat it is by using a power source strong enough to fulfill it (Godzilla in his thermonuclear state representative of nuclear power). BUT even nuclear power can't do that on its own, we need the support of other technologies such as solar power (Mothra and Godzilla cooperating).
@ The government is still an A-hole. Less of an A-hole before, sure, but still an A-hole. Case in point: Literally everything they did to antagonize South Korea (from medieval times to WWII to the modern day "those islands were never yours and you should return it back to us even though we know it was really yours.")
See, I read King of the Monsters as an allegory of invasive species and the destruction they do to the natural habitat, or at least the main conflict. Basically, Godzilla is an alligator, Ghidorah is a Burmese Python, and the earth is Florida.
i always thought godzilla rampaging through Tokyo represented the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. while, when godzilla fights another monster it represented the cold war going nuclear; two giant powers duking it out, destroying everything around them. it doesn't matter who wins, there won't be anyone left when the fighting ends.
Also...you know, it was ACTUALLY a pattern caused by them trying to use a scale+skin template but not having the ability to burn it into a large rubber suit without it dripping and their paint job was done in layers, not detailing. So it's a fun little thing you made up but that's not actually why the suit looked the way it did. It was because they were doing subtractive modeling, not additive, and not detail-oriented. Cool story though, bro.
As a physicist, let me tell you: it's horrifyingly true. We still don't have equations to calculate the critical mass of a fission material, all data we have comes from experiments and statistics.
The “King Kong is an allegory for racism” thing is a very interesting take. However after hearing about the creator of King Kong’s original vision for the film, I’m pretty sure the guy just really liked gorillas😂 at first he wanted to get an actual gorilla to fight a Komodo Dragon. But then he thought “what about a GIANT Gorilla vs a Dinosaur!” And thus King Kong was born. Although I can absolutely understand that interpretation.
"Humanity will make itself big and strong enough to punch it into submission" sounds like one of those things you'd find in a "humans are space orcs" story.
@Juni Post Each time earth has tried to kill off man and a few times man him self has tried we have strode out the ashes with a cocky swagger and a smile on our face stronger and smarter and better with ONLY ONE QUESTION."What else ya got?" Earth: " Alt-right conservatives,Religious fundimentalists, spirit science and flat earthers". Humans: "Shit!!"
@@Armendicus they arent even a threat, just a hindrance, at most a minor setback, most of humanity still believes in science and progress and as long as this keeps going (very probable considering that our entire culture and economic system is build to make progress the cornerstone of civilization) we will keep rising
Here is a paraphrased quote from one of my classmates when discussing Godzilla vs Kong: “I wanna see big lizard punch big monkey” and I think that sums up what people who take movies at surface level like about kaiju
I always felt that King Kong was about how humanity can never truly have complete dominion over nature and that sometimes nature have dominion over humanity.
I think what may be part of how Godzilla's role changed, and how Japanese culture came to see him as, as Watanabe said, an "old friend," is that Godzilla may have acted as a cathartic outlet for those fears and grief surrounding nuclear warfare. As the big G turned from a monster (but also fellow victim) to an antihero to a champion, he may have helped them to overcome their grief. Again, to quote Watanabe as Sarazawa, they overcame their demons by facing them, and found closure. Of course, I may be completely off base and this is absolutely nothing like how things went in Japanese culture, I don't know. That's just my best guess.
…you do realize King Kong was more sympathetic than a real antagonist right and the reason he took the girl cause she’s was quite literally the only one nice to him
HP Lovecraft would've felt very deflated that humanity managed to harness forces that would've made his little squid-bois into radioactive kalimari. That said, it's a topic that's been explored before by folks.
@@DavidLopez-pc7yg Ok, I just feel like that's every hippie ever who thinks: anything Nuclear = World War and/or End of the World In other words, while I might have not heard that exact statement before, I have heard so much of similar claims just by watching news it's just sad.
@@pRahvi0 Nuclear power is objectively the best source of power. It is far more efficient than our current fossil fuels and produces far less waste, and is easier to dispose of. The only superior form of energy in terms of cleanliness is natural energy like solar and geothermal, and those are far less efficient than nuclear power. I don't know why hippies would oppose atomic energy, it seems that an efficient and clean solution to world power would be something they'd support. I never actually contextualized nuclear power in a comparison to lovecraftian horror, so Red's comparison was actually a surprise to me and highly thought provoking.
There’s actually a theory about allegory in King Of The Monster. It goes like this: Ghidorah represents climate change. He rises from ice in the arctic, representing the melting of the polar ice caps and the gases it releases. He’s also in the middle of a giant hurricane, and massive storms is a predicted result of climate change. Our boi Godzilla, however, represents Mother Nature. He’s doing his best to fight off this unnatural threat and protect the planet, but in the end he needs our help to stop Ghidorah, or climate change. It’s basically an allegory saying that we need to do something about Climate Change before it destroys our home.
Well that and invasive species. Ghidora is an alien, while the rest of the monsters are natives. Unleashing Ghidora results in the natural order being completely tossed around as he has no real part in the food chain. Godzilla meanwhile is a native apex with one predator over him, but fights Ghidora over what is their territory. It's funny that invasive species also works in tandem with global warming.
I also got some Satan vibes from him 3 heads After he regenerates his head other follow him He stands above the cross Maybe it wasn't intentional, but it sure seems intentional.
I'd Argue Godzilla, Mothra & King Ghidora follows the format to an extent, with Godzilla serving as a ghost of Japan's war crimes. An ugly truth that can't be ignored and is just barley stopped by a combination of the guardian monsters (allegorical of Japan's Shinto belief & philosophy in nature) and the people of Japan working together to accept and confront their mistakes.
I always thought King Kong was an allegory for environmental and cultural exploitation. Capturing animals and putting them in zoos for example. The 30's was a time shortly after the big exploration days. When famous hunters were slaughtering big game in Africa and after the treasure seekers were done looting ancient tombs.
A story can have multiple interpretations. King Kong can be a discussion on exploitation, an allegory on racism that equates 'white' people as (savage) hunters and 'black' people as gorillas or even just a big monkey smashing things up. And honestly that is what makes it a relevant story to this day.
@@the_tactician9858 Yes, but Red isn't arguing that the movie is a metaphor n slavery, but has racist subtext on how black people = gorillas apparently, which is an... interesting take which makes me wonder if it's impossible to make a movie about a gorilla without Red thinking it's people being racist and thinking it's referring to black people.
@@GMP1isReal Yeah it's kind of hilarious that a bunch of people are seeing a giant ape in a movie, thinking "oh that's obviously an allegory for black people" and then calling the filmmaker who just wanted to see a gorilla fight a dragon racist.
@@GMP1isReal If anything Red like a typical leftist will always see a monkey and think black people. The racisms is pretty on the nose, it Kong doesnt need to be the allegory because the movie clearly shows it. its in the 1930's and back then racism was pretty much accepted as the norm. There was no need to hide subtext when it was opening out in the open for all to see. Its more of a allegory of environmental exploitation as Zoos and circuses were all the rage back in the 30's. Movies were yet to hit main stream, so people chose to go see wild animals or hit a circus up over them. In short Red is like any leftist Don Quixote on the constant hunt for the giant that no longer exists. Although you can argue that the real monsters are those who constantly try to think monkey = black man..
@@GMP1isReal aren't we all apes anyway? So does it have to be just an allegory for black people? What, did other ethnic groups stop being primates all of a sudden?
...when Red got to the bit about "in later movies, Godzilla's job is usually to fight even bigger monsters," I was a little disappointed we didn't get a crack about the trope of "unleash Sealed Evil in a Can to fight another evil (and possibly become a love interest)" that's so popular in anime...
Shin Godzilla was a very interesting critique of the response of the Japanese Government to recent emergencies, having some pretty disturbing tsunami imagery at one point. It's also got the most disturbing version of Godzilla imo
@@embasorangiratina36 My dog would be massive, and yet there would be dogs even bigger than her... Also the majority of chihuahuas would be like 3 inches tall.
Uprising had a couple good things going for it, but its disconnection with the first film and the comics, and how badly the merchandise dropped the ball by not having a scrapper action figure, and a few other plot elements really weighed it down. The comics are worth reading though.
I specifically remember this scene from when I watched the original Japanese version of the film after years of seeing the Raymond Burr version. Really heavy stuff. (It should be noted that the American version of this film actually kept most of the Japanese plot and the central American character was simply present and didn't save the day. The anti-nuke message did get watered down, though.)
That definitely shocked me really badly, I wasn't expecting that at all (though i should have in hindsight). Now I really need to get my hands on a way to watch it....
"You could say it's a mysterious colour unlike any seen on earth." Now I'm just curious what the shambling pile of issues in human form that was H. P. Lovecraft would come up with if he'd lived to see nuclear energy become a thing...
Lunictd Lovecraft becomes notably less racist as time goes on, if not hit by the cancer train we’d likely remember him very differently and I know just a joke but it’s not the sole characteristic he deserves to be remembered for.
That moment when you realize the differences between lovecraft’s description of the life around the well isn’t too different from Chernobyl (Save the moving trees).
@@dinosaurspy7096the only one of those where godzilla is even vaguely a lesser evil is biollante(and hedorah, but that wasn't in the original comment). please, when you say something, you should do even a slight amount of research.
@@anonymousoff-brand7538 Ghidorah the 3-headed monster Godzilla vs. Space Godzilla Godzilla vs. Destroyah Godzilla Final Wars Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla
Tbh I think the whole "Serizawa blows up a nuke to save Godzilla" ordeal is a sign of something I and many of us can probably agree is very great: It's the change of the entire societal relation to nukes, they are no longer a constant threat, Midnight never happened and we've lived to see the sunrise despite all odds, we have effectively tamed the nuclear beast if you will. Nuclear war is still terrifying to us, of course, if we ever got anywhere close to midnight we'd be shitting so many bricks we'd have enough materials to build Rome in a day, but we've gotten past the threat of nukes and with that, so too has Godzilla needed to change for it. Now, just like nukes, Godzilla is still terrifying, but he isn't an active threat without us making some massive mistakes at which point if we were that stupid we'd probably deserve it, we've effectively come to terms with the power of nuclear weapons and so their use has changed to last resort weapons or, in the case of King of the Monsters, the detonation of the nuke to save Godzilla is effectively a direct sign of how we no longer need to fear the idea of nuclear war and how much we've grown.
CoolTrainer: VautBoy-39 That was an early design drawing, but it got scrapped because that design had "strange simian-like features" and they were looking for something more akin to a Dinosaur.
@@kevinnorwood8782 the more overt mushroom-inspired design was scrapped, but even the reptilian one still carries over some elements of it. Watch the scene where Godzilla attacks the radio tower, his head is framed to resemble a mushroom cloud.
I always loved how the 2005 King Kong touches more on how tragic such a creature would be, being a highly intelligent ape, the last of its kind, the usually gentle giant turned violent as he is hunted by predators on a sinking world at his old age. Finally bonding with a similar intelligence for the first time in years, feeling as though he could protect Anne Darrow from the monsters where he couldn't for his family, before being taken from his home and paraded as a spectacle by arrogant mankind. And then dying tragically as he searched for and was able to spend his last moments with his first ever friend. I feel like the misunderstood nature of gorillas and most other animals is what I'm thankful got taken from the original and translated well enough into 2005 Kong. Its a shame the Monsterverse Kong is comparatively very shallow in characterization.
For what it's worth, using Godzilla as a semi-benevolent force does arguably send a message on nuclear weapons, just a different one. Basically, it turns Godzilla into a nuclear deterrent. Also, he could be used as a metaphor for nuclear power, which is a good thing when handled with care.
The "nuke" question you keep bringing up makes perfect sense to me. "Nuke" is technology, a tool; it is both good and bad, all depending one how it is used. It is both the hydrogen bomb, as well as a theoretical method of interstellar travel. It is Chernobyl, but also the power plant likely a few hours away if you're living in the US. I think the fact that nukes are considered bad in some of these movies but good in others is a good thing since it really isn't black and white like that. Nuclear energy is literally the reason any of us are alive right now, what with the sun existing and all. It is also a thing that could end our species forever. Both sides of that story should be told.
Finally found someone that gets it We need to learn how to use nuclear energy perfectly to unlock fusion energy It's like nuclear energy but less dangerous
Nukes isn't nuclear energy tho, Nukes are weapons and nothing more. I agree that nuclear energy is good and bad, but the nuke itself is nothing good at all.
@@BlackEpyon I worked as a guardian for a church turned museum/auditorium. during my city's big comics convention (Lucca comics & games if you were wondering) said church also hosted panels for it, including one about the philosopies of evangelion and let me tell you, they stayed almost a hour overtime because they just couldn't stop debating how much Yung was this or how much Nietzche was that. got me into the series tho so it was good in the end, someone brought one mean unit 02 cosplay too.
"Sometimes you want a deeply tragic terrifying movie to help you process your communal trauma and warn the rest of the world against hubristic self-destruction and sometimes you just want to watch a giant nuclear dinosaur beat up a dragon from space." Not only do I love that sentence for how hilarious it is, but for how true it is.
I think that Godzilla's change of role over the years is also a representation of the evolution of the Japanese people's rapport with nuclear in general, not only the bombing. Before, the only use of nuclear energy was only use was bombs but now it not only provides energy to everyone but it is also the best transitional energy for ecology's sake. Sure, accidents can happens but if humanity is responsible enough those shouldn't happen.
Godzilla’s role had already changed by 1955. I think its more a representation of the fact that you literally cannot make a giant, super profitable, movie monster and not serialize the hell out of it for the sake of pure entertainment and profit.
"At times in order to heal our wounds, we must make peace with the demons that created them." One of my favorite lines of King of The Monsters. It would've been a throw away line if said by anyone other than a Japanese. Really adds to the theme of the movie
Watching this half a year later, during a pandemic: those Hollywood movies like to offer up the optimistic idea that human kind would stand together against a common threat of that magnitude, foregoing political differences and that jazz. Well... that didn't really work out. Oops.
It might help if its a visible threat that has a theoretical victory point (killing it); with a less visible (microscopic, even) threat? A tad harder. A common enemy is a great uniter.
I always thought Kong worked as man's relationship to nature. By bringing a savage curiosity to civilization you risk both your civilization and the curiosity itself. "Twas beauty that killed the beast" more our protection of what we hold beautiful.
It's, it's actually very simple. The guy who made King Kong just wanted to see a gorilla fight a komodo dragon.... Like, he literally wanted to get a real, living ape and throw it into a pen with a komodo dragon and record what happened for the movie. But, not surprisedly, or surprising based on the care of animals in movies can then, it was decided not to throw two animals in a cage fight together. He then learned that if he hired Willis O'Brian he could have a GIANT gorilla fight a T-Rex and, well, he couldn't pass up a chance like that. Basically King Kong is nothing more than a guy who really, really likes gorillas getting a chance to make a movie about one.
Ignore him. People have been trying to gaslight everyone into thinking there was no racist allegory because of this all over the comment section. As if one man’s original movie idea erases all the obvious coding in the actual final film and we’re all just being wee sensitive lil worriers worked up over nothing.
I never thought of King Kong as a racial metaphor. I am sure I will be told that is white privilege, I first so the movie as a kid so I first saw him as an exciting character/special effect and than as a metaphor for environmental exploitation. Sorry for going all space 🐉 Red, but no.
@@nkbujvytcygvujno6006 Bro, stop. It's not a racist allegory, and anyone who still pushes this kind of nonsense literally just isn't doing their research and is spreading misinformation. Unlike 2023, not everything back in 1933 was about fucking race.
Kaijin: Human-sized monster. Kaiju: Giant-sized monster. Pacific Rim: an allegory for climate change that isn't idiotic, that includes a giant robot using a shipping barge as a katana. This is why it is my favorite movie ever.
It's perfectly balanced between "hehe big robot go boom" and "the kaiju are an allegory for the inescapable challenge we as a species have on the matter of climate change" and its great
Japan: Godzilla was created as a result of nuclear warfare, symbolizing the dangerous potential of- Americans: Ima pretend I didn’t see that Edit: “corrected” this because apparently correcting a joke was important to certain people
it starts from the beginning of the series actually, when it came to america, they added a white guy, played around with the shots, made it more "acceptable" for the american public... i watched bits and pieces of the first one for the US and metaphorically chucked it out the window for the japanese version
@@yvonnethompson844 US adaptation: You know what this allegoric monster movie needs? A love triangle! Also, I'm torn between respecting the fact that they didn't pretend the setting was somewhere in America (see most early dubbed anime, or even recent video games) and face palming that they thought we needed an American audience avatar to enjoy the film. He was mostly just a witness.
Video shows exactly why it’s not symbolizing the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and nagasaki and rather the nuclear fallout of nuclear testing in the regio- Comment section: imma pretend I didn’t see that
Godzilla's development from WMD allegory to environmental protector wasn't an American move. That's just his character arc throughout the Showa movies. The Legendary Godzilla is basically just late Showa Era Godzilla plucked out of his time frame and set into the modern world.
"Kaiju movies can never agree if nukes are good or bad" Thats because a weapon can be used both as a safeguard and a tool of aggression. Also, nukes are the most powerful and devastating tool in humanity's arsenal. The moment we figure out anti matter bombs or implosion spheres or portable black holes or whatever, that thing will topple the nuke from its throne. But until then, when faced with insurmountable odds, the nuke will forever be the grand equalizer and the ace in the hole for any plot.
I always saw Serizawa’s sacrifice as a different allegory all together, about paranoia and technological advancement. Serizawa is specifically a remnant of a older time, a past where Godzilla is who you have said he is. So mapping the correct fears of the older generation of the youngsters destroying their legacy, even though an unrealistic fear, makes sense to me. Basiaclly, it’s taking the character who SHOULD be the most paranoid of nukes and traumatized out of the entire cast. The one who has the most reason to hate nuclear weaponry, the most reason to despise Godzilla, and showing that the scars of the past, while real and important, shouldn’t be used as an excuse stop the future. A character who is dying because he is sacrificing the part of himself that hates nukes in order to accept that the potential good outweighs the harm it has already caused. In the movie credits, Godzilla and the other Kaiju actually do cause technological advancements and natural revival, because of its new “defender of nature” allegory. Detonating a nuke point blank with his own two hands, forcing himself to do that which has hurt him so much when others have done it. Forcing himself to kill the part of him that wants to hide behind his scars. And maybe, juuuuust maybe…he might have been willing to die, because part of him is still not willing to stick around and see the aftermath of destruction, if it turns out he was wrong to do this, to take the path of the theoretical greater good over the literal suffering of the past.
Thank you for kindly explaining what Red doesn’t get. Honestly if she could interpret Pacific Rim as an allegory for climate change why couldn’t she see the interpretation of KOTM’s allegory of living symbiotically with nature? Man and Nature living side by side helping themselves for a better future? It’s not that hard to get.
Hey now, everyone, don’t go insulting Red. Her POV is also valid, it is fiction after all. It’s a legitimate criticism, just because some of us got what I said from it doesn’t mean that’s what they meant to do. Hell, I’ll even admit that they didn’t handle that scene well She’s trying and succeeding in giving us such wonderful and educational content, along with Blue. Be nice, they deserve it
Technically Godzilla and the monsters of Toho and Daiei studios are "daikaiju" which roughly translates to "giant monster" while kaiju can be a rough translation for anything from a lycanthrope/werewolf to mushroom-people. A "kaiju" is anything that is strange or weird, but Godzilla or King Kong would best be described as daikaiju or "giant monsters"
Reminds me of how in Japan, "anime" just refers to anything animated, and AFAIK is also a loanword from French. So technically, King of the Hill is indeed anime.
All riiiiight, you've sold me, I'll watch Shin Godzilla! -R
Good luck, Red.
i came to the comments to ask why u didn’t mention that film!!!!!
imo knee godzilla is better than shin godzilla
What movie was it at around 9:08
I was just about to comment after finishing the video. so I'll just let you enjoy it. but I notice 1998 Godzilla was left out, can't imagine why...
The question “Is Clifford a Kaiju” was not a question I expected to hear today, but boy was I happy to hear it
Apparently, that is something that people have asked
It’s like the “Do humans in Pokémon lay eggs” debate that I never knew existed
@@andrewkim9848 ?!?!?!
i remember this exact line of query from an episode of Game Grumps
boi if someone don't get MatPat on this shit imma be mad. I gotta know. Does he qualify? Can we have a Godzilla and Clifford crossover? Will the weird side of deviantart start drawing CliffordxMothra smut? So many questions
“Run, it’s Godzilla”
“It looks like Godzilla but due to international copyright laws, it’s not”
“Still we should run like it is Godzilla”
“Though it isn’t”
Nah, it’s Just Zilla
I thought/hoped this was gonna be a " Run Godzilla King Kong is coming for u" OU NO, He cant hear us he has airpods on
justanotherchannelonyoutube I understood the reference and know where it's from.
*Soul Bossa Nova plays quietly in background*
Damn it I was gonna make that joke
"It's easier to think about a giant monster than a disembodied fear."
H.P. Lovecraft's just over here like "They're the same picture".
Lovecraft: What do you mean? All my fears are embodied! they exist within me!!
CRAAAAAWLING IIIIN MY SKIIIIIIN
THESE WOUNDS, THEY WILL NOT HEAAAAL
@@An_Amazing_Login5036 FEAR IS HOW I FALL
CONFUSING WHAT IS REAL
OWOOO!
@@thestranger954 owo
👁 w👁
Red: "Let's not get too specific, that's how you attract philosophers."
Me, a philosophy major: "You're too late. I've been here for a while now."
I feel strangely validated XD
Because it's quite the opposite: Specification is not what attracts philosophers, vague functionality is. The vagueness feeds them as they seek to play with and stretch the intentions and use of words and concepts until they touch everything else. /jk
@@Canido19 Nah, vagueness means you have to do the work yourself. Specificity means someone else is making claims, and claims are an argument, and arguments can be WRONG >:D
Philosophers have much more fun telling their peers why their argument is bad than they do making sure their own arguments are correct.
@@DarkExcalibur42 I am disappointed by how much bad trust that sounds like. However, I am yet MORE disappointed by how not-inaccurate that sounds.
@@Canido19 Yes, until you realize that pulling at the problems with someone else's argument also helps them to build up a better argument in response.
"Let's not get _too_ specific, that's how you attract philosophers."
Once again, a line that seems destined for merch.
Scientists are specific, philosophers are abstract.
@@ilkkarautio2449 Put another way: scientists are abstractly specific, philosophers are specifically abstract. It's all in the differences in how they explain the peculiarities of their respective fields.
@@Nitrinoxus Thats true. 😂
@@Nitrinoxus Well put :)
I demand T-shirts and coffee mugs of this quote.
Here's a theory: Clifford is actually Fenrir. Ragnarok already happened, and his fur is red because it's soaked with Odin's blood.
and now he walks among a grateful world, where those crazy gods aren't drinking oceans, punching mountains or killing each other as pranks. Like Thanos, but more successful and much better in a moral sense.
Guess Viddar's boot wasn't big enough.
Another theory: Ragnarok actually has already happened. In real life. That's it.
:|
My childhood is dead.
"The common biologist's answer of: mnemnmeneh you know it when you see it."
I hate how accurate that is.
Oh hey! My old account!
@@besquareorbethere8093 did u comment on ur own comment
@@meneng6933 No, this account has a capitalized Or, while that one does not.
@@besquareorbethere8093 I don't remember the exact quote, but it was something like "in biology, every rule has its exceptions."
@@coyraig8332 Strange, I thought that quote was from linguistics and having to do with the English language.
I've always said (in reference to Dungeons and Dragons, specifically) "sometimes monsters are people and sometimes people are monsters". I do appreciate the addition of "and sometimes *monsters* are monsters.
But never people are people.
@@redkraken6516 Never JUST people. They're either plot points, motivations, macguffins, or sometimes, just an NPC there to die to illustrate "the horror of X"
@@erinfinn2273 Mostly the horror of mass murdering players
FUN FACT: Gojira's stroll through Tokyo was intentionally the same as the path of destruction from the firebombing in WW2.
I'm not sure if that qualifies as a "fun" fact but that's actually very interesting that they put so much thought into it and how Japan didn't really view the nukes and firebombing too differently.
@@alienplatypus7712 is a sarcastic "fun," my friend!
Which firebombing? It isn't as if it only happened the once.
@@boobah5643 March 10th, 1945, if memory serves.
so the entire nation?
"Monsters are tragic beings. They are born too tall, too strong, too heavy. They are not evil by choice. That is their tragedy. They do not attack people because they want to, but because of their size and strength, mankind has no other choice but to defend himself. After several stories such as this, people end up having a kind of affection for the monsters. They end up caring about them."
- Ishiro Honda
So many times, I watch/read a Frankenstein's monster story, only to want to hug the monster, and share a sandwich with them. Allegory: The mistaken creations we make will haunt us and possibly destroy us, if we don't find some positive way for them to exist alongside us.
or maybe evil arseholes should just.. not make monsters.
if you create a monster then you are evil regardless of how "regular" you think you are.
Just gonna say it the way I said it back in "that" game... and countless RPG"s since...
"Alright, GM, you want me dead? I can be good with that...
...but YOU'RE gonna have to kill me. I'm goin' down sluggin'... every roll....
...every step...
...every syllable...
...every f***ed up inch..." ;o)
HE'S A REAL NOWHERE MAN
That's basically what Emmerich did in Godzilla (1994) and apparently the japaneses hated it to the point to unbaptese his Godzilla !
(Please leave Zilla Alone !!!)
(The movie is still nice AND has the "Kaiju weight" AND has french Jean Reno mimicking a US GI with bad french accent and gum ! Cette scène est hilarante !!!)
This would actually be a fantastic point to catapult into a another Trope talk: The Alien Savior. The mysterious being like Ultraman, Dr. WHO, Superman who do what humans could not and how we should learn from them, or how we end up corrupting them.
By that logic then in the context of chrstianity since Jesus is the son of god would Jesus himself qualify as a literal alien savior
@@brandonporter8509 I mean ignoring their cultural impact, angels and demons are inherently alien. Incredibly fear-inducing aliens.
@@airhead1320 and in the case of the latest Doom games, they actually, freaking are
@@brandonporter8509 Indeed, it would be nice if she brought up all fictional characters, even Jesus, Buda, and other mythological beings.
Half alien savior.
The Spock Savior.
The part human savior.
The humans can fuck anything byproduct.
"Guillermo del Toro is a man who understands monsters. He understands the complex interplay between humanity and inhumanity and he knows that sometimes a person is a monster, sometimes a monster is a person and sometimes a monster is a monster."
And that's why I'm EXTREMELY frustrated that he couldn't do the adaptation of the manga "Monster" in a TV series.
Ahhhh I need that !
Also his Lovecraft adaptation
Also his (cancelled) Silent Hill movie with Junji Ito.
Man he has so many stuff which he couldn't or hasn't yet got funding for.
Oh man I had no idea this was a thing but he would have been perfect for a live action Monster.
@@anishsawan6496 THERE WAS GONNA BE A SILENT HILL MOVIE WITH JUNJI ITO AND GUILLERMO DEL TORO? WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE
I DIDNT KNOW???!!! WE COULD HAVE THIS WTF FIRST HE COULDNT DO LOTR NOW MONSTER??!!!! THEY KEEP ROBBING US GAHH
It'll never happen now that Wilford "Diabeetus" Brimley is dead.
"You could say its a mysterious color, unlike any seen on Earth."
I see she's has a some flashbacks of H.P Lovecraft's "The Colour out of Space". It probably scarred for having to say those words so many times.
*u n l i k e a n y s e e n o n e a r t h*
according to the movie coming out that color is just purple. Also it seems like more of a pet cemetery grotesque jump scare than slow burning existential dread.
Lovecraft doesn't transfer well to visual medium, especially when micro managing movie studios insist on cramming in their usual genre stereotype tropes.
kyriss12 tbf if I’ve never seen purple Amd I see some disgusting stuff that’s purple I’d freak too
@@ilhandaanish2381 fun tip, indigo brightened up causes eye strain and headaches, found that out in the fallout 4 interface customization
I laughed out loud when she said those words. :D
"Lets not get too specific, thats how you attract philosopher."
Philosophers are a species now, red said so.
"Here we see a wild philosopher in their natural habitat. Watch as it does something that is unique to their species."
(Philosopher does some philosophizing.)
"Marvelous."
These days their a rare species at that!
Why do I get the feeling that's throwing shade at Abby Thorn?
@@gamingforever9121 I wouldn't say they were rare. Good ones are though.
damn it
"Skreeeonk" is the greatest onomatopoeia I've ever seen for Godzilla.
Actually that onomatopoeia doesn't sound like Godzilla's roar and Godzilla's official Japanese onomatopoeia is Gyaoon
@@Xenotaris UM ACTUALLY
@@kylefrank638 Skreeeeeonk doesn't even sound like a Godzilla roar
I've actually seen skreeonk used really commonly for his roar, it's not good but it's American standard
Why is everyone coming here to let me know I'm actually totally wrong about it being a great Godzilla sound effect? ...
Why are you booing me, I'M RIGHT
I think the "nuclear power/bombs being good now" narrative for the modern movies might also stem from the fact that nuclear power is currently our most viable alternative to coal/oil power. Since, as you stated, we currently use the modern kaiju as an allegory for global warming, the narrative might be switching to tell us that nuclear power is our salvation in this sense.
It would have been better for that allegory if they used nuclear waste or fuel or something to power up Godzilla instead
So you're saying the nuclear winter will solve global warming? Interesting ☢️
@Mr. Fish That's not what they're saying at all. Most people seem to have this negative idea of Nuclear power due to a handful of nuclear incidents but with proper matinance and a plan nuclear power plants can often be cleaner, and safer then the alternatives. I mean if people talked about Oil spills, and wildfires with a fraction of the pasion as they do a handful of nuclear incidents then most people would drive electric cars.
@@thekey0123 I know, I was just kidding. In the movies, it's portrayed with a bomb to revive GZ, and I thought it'd be funny.
Personally, I'm for investing in renewables and fusion before fission, explicitly concerning waste. I think fission is the perfect transitionary energy source between a mostly carbon-fueled society to a fusion one with nuclear waste as a downside. I know methods for dealing with nuclear waste are effective enough now, but like all materials, it'll get harder to manage when the scale grows significantly larger. And for PR reasons, it's the last material you'd want to have an accident with, because the general public cares more when "nuclear" and "radioactive" are involved, rather than just environmentalists.
Also, the common process of digging up a hole to drop it in and closing off the area uses a lot of space, which is becoming a lot more precious by the year. I'm saying that the space it may take up on a massive scale may be consequential, but I'm not an urban planner or a scientist, so I could easily be wrong.
@@Mr_Fish10 that's on me for not realizing the joke.
Can’t wait for Hollywood’s new Kaiju movie:
*Clifford the Big Red Destroyer*
Clifford AU where instead of love making him grow Rita Repulsa accidentally threw her staff in the wrong direction
Would he represent the potential loss of herd immunity at the hands of people with their heads too deep into their own ass? Because I'm on board with a massive red disease spreading dog.
@@12isaac00 clifford the bringer of pestilence
Don't forget about Clifford vs Destroyah
The dark reboot we deserve.
*sees Red's version of Godzillia*
....I wanna pet the giant snek
Osp makes everything adorable
Boop the snoot
@joke card Danger noodle: *happy skreeonk*
It is the single best part of this video.
@@hitsunakousaka9497 Back away from the radioactive lizard
Monty Python: Run Away! Runaway!
Austin Powers: It looks like Godzilla, but due to international copyright law...it's not. Still we should run like it is Godzilla
"The first and currently last use of nuclear weapons in war."
*_currently_*
Don't jinx it, Red.
It's only a matter of time. The only hard part of nuclear weapons (once you know they exist, anyway) is getting your hands on and refining the material... and that was done as a sideshow with eighty year old technology.
@@boobah5643 My high school physics professor said pretty much the same thing. Making the bomb was easy, so long as you had the fissile material (I mean, one of the bombs dropped on Japan triggered the explosion by firing a bullet of fissile material into another piece of it, IIRC). I am curious, though, what you are referring to when you mention a "sideshow"
@@wolv0223 Weapons grade fissile material is created by the operation of nuclear reactors. The hard part of the manhattan project was getting a working reactor.
I would argue Korea's test as political use,and thus, kinda, war.
think the understanding of how devestating and dangerous nuclear weapons are is kinda imbedded into the souls of humanity. no one wants to be the man who launchesi t cause they will die soon after.
true people keep on making new and more dangerous ones but not a single warhead has been used in active warfare and honestly, i wouldn't e entirely surprised if non of the nculear weapons are operational or there is only a couple of actually functioning ones. because the importance of the nuke is to intimidate people into not using nukes on you.
Mothra is my favourite Kaiju. Her alegorical message is “nature is mysterious, beautiful, sacred, and if you try to destroy it or use it selfishly (for profit or otherwise) it will fuck you tf up. Mothra also shows how if given the chance, space, and time required, nature will renew itself, even if mama Mothra dies, there’s always a baby Mothra waiting in the wings to step u[ when her mother passes.
Also that nature’s spokespeople are tiny fey twins who sing… but I think that’s a metaphor for how nature needs people to speak up for it and remind folk how scary it can be when not well cared for.
Tl;dr Mothra is the prototypical environmentalist kaiju and I love her.
"Take only pictures, leave only footprints. Visit scenic Skull Island today." Gold...pure gold.
Literally had me dying 👌😂
🤣😂I bursted out laughing and got weird looks from people. Now that is good writing
Red, actually...
"Oh look, honey, Skull Island! Wouldn't that be wonderful to visit?"
*everything's on fire*
*SKREEEEEEEEEEEE*
"but the good people have the power of godzilla and anime on their side"
best line ever
But not the Godzilla anime. Some lines should not be crossed.
@@AJadedLizard The WHAT
@@arandomkobold8403 The first Godzilla anime. It's on Netflix.
Not to be confused with the second Godzilla anime...which will be on Netflix.
@@AJadedLizard THERE WHERE TWO!?!?
@@arandomkobold8403 Well, technically there are four, since the first "one" is actually a series of three movies...none of which are very good.
Humans: (Drop bombs into the ocean all willy nilly)
Godzilla: When will you learn that your actions have consequences!?!!
Humanity:
Perhaps, never.
Godzilla and the Kaijus:
Here we go again.
I imagined that Godzilla said it in that kid's high pitched voice too lol
never given he punished the wrong people...
it were the US that tested the weapons but japan that suffered the fallout (pun intended)
why would the US learn anything from that?
To quote the Blue Oyster Cult song Godzilla
History shows again and again that nature points out the folly of man
Godzilla: Are you humans kidding me?? I just cleaned up this mess!!! Now the planet is being trashed again!!!
i always interpreted godzilla becoming a good guy despite still having nuclear powers was an optimistic portrayal of nuclear power, especially since a lot of the monsters he fights are clear allegories for pollution. nuclear power is actually very safe currently, but because of disasters like chernobyl people are still understandably nervous about the idea. its helpful to keep in mind that chernobyl was a recipe for disaster to begin with due to how it was built under a tight budget with little regards to safety and was staffed by people not properly trained for their job.
in the new godzilla vs king kong it was pretty clear to me the enemy of that movie was corrupt capitalism. very fun movie.
Godzilla becoming a good guy in the Showa films has nothing to do with allegorical changes. It's a matter of real world demographics and in-universe character development.
If you look at Kong as the power of nature and Godzilla as the power of nuclear power, it makes their fight more interesting
My husband worked labor jobs in a nuclear power plant before his current job and you would not believe how careful they are there. Safety is top priority, there’s many precautions taken and if anything goes wrong they’re working to fix it immediately or shutting things down to clear up the issue before damage can be done. The nuclear plants today are a lot safer than Chernobyl
People are actually fearful because of bad press and intentional smear campaigns from fossil fuel industries
"But one man--one man, dared to stand against the tide of empty, meaningless spectacle. To raise a fist skyward in solitary defiance and say:
"'If humanity were faced with an onslaught of malevolent, unstoppable giant monsters, humanity would make giant robots to punch those giant monsters IN THE FACE.'" -Red
Gurimo Del Toro is AMAZING!
Yes!
"Indomitable, that's the word! Indomitable!"
-Tenth Doctor
Serious Rick May vibes.
"You could even say it's a mysterious color unlike any seen on earth"
SHE'S IN BOYS, SHE DID IT, SHE SAID IT *AIRHORN*
Woohoo!
What Magenta?
TL I’m afraid she has been affected by the old one
*looks at my copy of the necronomicon (anthology of Lovecrafts works not the sp00py shit)
I’ll get the sparklers.
Godzilla: a giant radioactive god-lizard, utterly unreasonable and unstoppable
Godzilla (as drawn by Red): Chonky Boi
Oh LAWD he comin!
Everything drawn by Red is 10x cuter
we stan Red and her chonky Godzilla
shronk
She can litterily draw anything cute
*is it possible to learn this power?*
16:11 "Focus on the only thing that really matters"
Yes Red, I agree. Giant mechs that punch monsters in the face are the only thing that really matters. We just gotta get NATO on this.
NATO using giant mechas may not solve their geopolitical and too many casualities problem, but sure it would look cool
Like to see Putins face when he sees giant Ukrainian mechs marching into Crimea
0:30 It's no coincidence that Godzilla, who represents man's own hubris, is a featherless biped.
I'm gonna assume that was a Diogenes joke and move on with my life
@@elipsiclearts2284 Sam summarized a historical event, hence this is a reference to the event, not the TH-cam video
@@elipsiclearts2284 The original shitposter, Diogenes, said "Behold! A man!" after plucking a chicken when Plato foolishly said that a man was a featherless biped.
Oh FUCK YO-
*happy diogenes noises*
*insert joke about red using Pacific Rim to represent the comments metaphorically punching her*
It was at 9:09 that I remembered she uses those clips. I’d forgotten all about them.
Aren't we going to talk about attack on Titan?
@@BlackCover95 bruh that clip looks like a scene from godzilla kotm then pascific rim
@@17-MASY Why? There more like giant zombies than kaiju.
@@scottjs5207 well yes but actually no😅
Ok, so I'm sure you probably won't read this, but Godzilla means a lot to me because it's literally part of who I am. My grandfather was an general staff officer during WWII that was one of the first Americans to travel to Hiroshima after the bombs drop, where he served as support for American doctors and researchers who collected data on what the bomb did. Because of this, and the radiation he was exposed to there and potentially serving a support near test sites like Bikini Atoll, his progeny like myself suffer from a number of radiation induced genetic defects. I have muscular problems and some minor asymmetry but got lucky, most of my cousins have severe disabilities. He passed away from a brain tumor later in life likely caused by said radiation exposure.
He spent the majority of his time in the military in the occupation of Japan, even after the official occupation was over, and he was still in Japan when Godzilla debuted and there's a picture of him in a local newspaper with a beautiful Japanese girl on his arm where a reporter was asking him what he thought of the movie given its nature. I think he said he was just there to enjoy the movie, but growing up it clearly deeply affected him because for the short time we had together before he passed away we watched every single Godzilla movie up until that point, and he spent a lot of time with me at a crazy young age expressing the horrors he saw on the ground at Hiroshima.
Among other topics, he explained that the reason why Godzilla became a good guy was because Japan's view of nuclear power changed drastically through the 60's and 70's. The reason was that nuclear reactors began creating clean energy and gave Japan an level of economic independence from the global resource market that one some levels Japan's expansionist policy in Asia was about in the first place, which is very important because some in Japan saw their position between the US and the Soviet Union as a scary place to be both politically and physically and being caught in the middle of invading monsters represents being caught between major superpowers, with Godzilla representing Japan in the middle. Because of this, Godzilla and nuclear power was seen as an ultimate source of good forged from the wake of destruction, something that could ultimately make Japan a better, cleaner, more powerful independant nation. In fact, Godzilla was even openly used as a mascot for some of these new nuclear reactors. In the newest movies like Shin Godzilla, he goes back to being a force to be feared in reaction to the Fukushima reactor disaster. Much of the movie is about the mishandling of the disaster.
So in that way Godzilla's theme, in Japanese productions, hasn't changed from the focus of being about Japan's relationship with nuclear energy. The movies are a reflection on the anxieties, fears, and hopes nuclear power brings with it across nearly a century of Japanese history now.
Thank you for writing this post, it was an incredibly enlightening read. Shows me the importance of different perspectives. Until now, I was always inclined to believe that the later Godzilla movies (as enjoyable as I found) were simply just cash grab films to make money of the name brand.
Thank you for sharing your story. I never thought of the Godzilla sequels like that. Just goes to show how a character's meaning can change over time.
What a wonderful perspective analysis of the movies! Thank you for sharing.
Great post, definitely a unique perspective you have there. Yeah nuclear power is a big, scary, and potentially insanely destructive threat; but people seem to forget that if used PROPERLY and CAREFULLY it can be a great source for good. And no, 1950s US military, "properly and carefully" does NOT mean using nukes to dig harbors, making nuclear-powered amphibious tanks, or turning a nuclear test into the world's most powerful potato gun and making a MANHOLE COVER the fastest man-made object in existence (yes that is a real thing they did).
RTGs, power plants, and nuclear thermal rockets? Good.
BIG bada-boom? Significantly less good in 99.9999% of circumstances.
Fantastic reading on the matter. I've been watching through the whole Godzilla film franchise recently (currently at the Millenium series) and now all of its Showa films have a totally different reading on me. Probably Return of Godzilla (Godzilla 1984) is the one that reflects the best that uncomfortable position Japan found itself into between the USA and the URSS, but now I can see the same reading on the others, and it adds a lot of cool extra layers to them.
I admire your grandfather's wisdom to appreciate the character as a product for entertainment and yet as a powerful metaphore of the horrors he had to witnessed. It's an excellent proof of why we shouldn't take entertainment media for granted. Human beings need stories and myths, even nowadays, because of how much they keep telling us about ourselves. I wouldn't be exaggerating by considering Godzilla a modern legit myth.
Regarding the Japanese fellow detonating a nuke to revive Godzilla: I thought the metaphor was the re-armament of Japan and ending their post war pacifism in the face of immense external threats.
Honestly, that's something I think the Shin Tokusatsu films pull off better, with the argument that the JSDF is better served as a supplement and not the go-to.
SPOILERS for Shin Godzilla and Shin Ultraman
Solo:
- They do nothing to stop Godzilla at his hypothetical weakest for fear of collateral
- Fail miserably to stop his fourth form, forcing the US to step in and inadvertently make the situation WORSE.
As part of a team:
- Supply the equipment for the plan that ultimately does work, which involves:
- Firing their armaments at carefully calculated locations to pin Godzilla.
- Proceed to become more effective at stopping kaiju as depicted at the start of Shin Ultraman.
I thought it was supposed to be about the acceptance of nuclear energy.
Modern Japanese attitudes towards militarism were so hard for me to _grok_ initially. It took me, I think, three watch-throughs of _GITS: SAC 2nd Gig_ to get that the good guys wanted Japan to tear up Article 9 in order to kick their subservience to (one of) the Americans.
"The first kaiju, Godzilla"
Typhon, son of Gaia and Tartarus, father of many a monsters: "Am I a joke to you, mortal?"
Kaiju are for kanji/katakana word, a *japanese* thing. So godzilla is the first to *use* that word, because other nations's monster doesn't use those word.
@@ssbc1873 So what you are saying is that Typhon is a retroactively the first kaiju.
@@elias.t up to your interpretation.
True, true
Kind of sad it only took people now that they could take many interpretations of myths in order to make a kaiju movie.
"History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of man."
- Godzilla, by Blue Oyster Cult
Although in real life it's less nature and mostly chain reactions.
I mean, would one consider nuclear power nature?
dammit! Beat me to it!
@@gustavowadaslopes2479 Yes
@@gustavowadaslopes2479 ... might as well be walking on the sun...
Also Blue Oyster: *PLAYS "EL BIMBO" AT RIDICULOUSLY LOUD VOLUMES ON LOOP*
I can’t remember who said this, but this video reminded me of it.
“Draw a monster, why is it a monster?”
because it yelled racist shit at me from the other side of the street
Fork Knife 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
The monster is terf
I heard somewhere, that the term 'monster' originally denoted any amazing, surprising spectacle. I dunno, might've been in Bullfinch's Mythology.
@@jean-paulaudette9246 in Brazil is common to use "monster" as very talented person or just awesome, is also used for very strong guys and for horrible people, monster is a powerful thing after all good or bad
We actually know the King Kong thing!
The director was fascinated by stop motion, and wanted to see a gorilla fight a dinosaur -
The stop motion animator told him that would have to be one bloody big gorilla, and there you go.
It's like that thing Frued said when someone pointed out his obvious penis fixation "Sometimes a cigar is only a cigar" - it's hardly ever true, but this one time it is.
Of course the 30s had a certain way of depicting both Africa and Gorillas. It's hard to argue the subtext, but it really was a movie about a gorilla fighting a dinosaur.
The thing is, movies aren't made by one guy. Even if the director (or whoever it was you're referring to I forget atm) had innocent intentions other people with power in the production have an influence. And even if everyone had pure intentions, cultural biases are gonna leak in no matter what.
Yeah, kind of hate how modern people try to push in sjw racism into everything.
@The Phantom Subconscious and maybe what was accepted at the time. Maybe they didn't sit down and say "let's make a movie about how we hate non whites" but back then most would be casually racist so their biases and opinions on other races would be part of the media they created. Like the person above you said, their biases would leak in no matter what.
I mean, the racism may not have been on PURPOSE, but... that doesn't mean it's nonexistent.
@The Phantom Maybe it was the writers. They thought gorilla fight and their mind just went there 🤔
"You don't get forces like that on terrestrial planets, you don't get them outside of stars."
I got chills 🥶
And its true. When scientists and engineers were trying to explain to their governements the power of the atom, thats the closest representation a human mind can compare it to. Its rather inaccurate as it vastly overinflate the danger of it if properly controlled and given the reverence it deserves, but close enough.
Really the problem is that these same governements really just saw the appeal of a bottled sun as a weapon, and as such the entire civil infrastructure was built around the weapon, not the reactor. And that had some major consequences.
Almost every single reactor built was made in the express intent that both the enrichement and even function of the reactor could be used to make weapons out of it. Little respect for the powers unleashed was given. This is how stuff like the RBMK reactor ended up being fielded into an operational unit directly (instead of being tested in a prototype unit) and fuel melting incidents from the widely fluctuating reaction of this specific reactor type was shoved under the rug, even outside the knowledge of those operating the reactors!
Even in the USSR where safety was more of a suggestion, scientists always knew that a force like fission needed to be respected. This is why at the time, no one really though that a reactor could melt down so bad it would go outside its protective measures in such a catastrophic way. Because in order to do so, MULTIPLE crippling judgment errors have to be made in a very specific order and timing. Even in the case of fukushima, it was the same kind of negligence that doomed the plant despite engineers correctly identifying everything wrong with then plant design. No one could think that either the engineers or the plant managers could end up doing things so radically dumb as to ignore every single safety protocol to run an optional test, for the sake of pleasing a political entity, yet it happened...
And yet it is still the safest energy BY FAR. Because either due to knowledge or popular fear, nuclear is pretty much the only energy source that is respected as being potentially catastrophic, while hydroplants, coal plants, gas plants and even solar plants regularely cause major incidents and issues, sometimes with hudreds of lives lost (and MILLIONS over the span of decades in the case of China's dirty coal plants). The fact that we have things like Godzilla to anchor the understanding of the atom as a force of destruction elevates our understanding of the risks above the rest of energy sources. The error and malice being to fear it to the point of irrationality.
“Is Clifford a Kaiju?”
I am now question everything. Thank you, Red.
Edit-I looked it up and the wiki has damn tried to make Clifford one.
wait, wiki?
@@Ribbons0121R121 The Kaiju entry on Wikipedia has a long running discussion on the talk page over whether Clifford is a Kaiju or not - this once apparently spilled over into making the Kool Aid Man a kaiju as well, which... who needs fiction, these pages are wonderful.
@@Dracinard
Link?
@@festethephule7553 wikiwand(com)\en\Talk:Kaiju
Sorry, I think it'd block a proper link, but hopefully that gets it across!
I remember reading a Clifford book as a kid where he was so itty bitty as a puppy that when he too a bath, he could ride on a bar of soap. He grew massive with love ❤ ❤❤❤
Me "Pacific rim, Pacific rim, Pacific rim, Pacific rim"
Red "Pacific rim"
Me "YES!"
I would of prefererved Eva lol.
I joined you into that chant my friend! Pacific Rim is a joy to watch, because as Red said it doesn't fall "flat" like other modern adaptations of kaijus, but also we get to see giant robots VS. giant monsters!
@@smolbluegoblin Much as I like giant robot vs giant monster, I have tried to watch Pacific Rim several times....and I either fall asleep or get bored every single time. I've absorbed the most of the plot via cultural osmosis though, so....yeah.
Jägers, giant f*ck you dragons, and character development. Fuck yeah
@@tln_577 i dont think she ever watched eva
King Kong: Destruction of the natural world
Godzilla: Horror of nuclear weapons
Gamera: Rocket powered ninja turtle punching tentacle monsters
Japan in the 50’s: Godzilla is a horrifying monster and an example of how we could utterly destroy ourselves and our planet
Japan in the 70’s: haha big lizard go skreeooonk
Japan doesn’t want to remind itself of the past neither does the US. In fact that’s the problem with many countries they don’t want to talk about the past and when they do they skip parts and try to justify others.
Aggressive drop kicking
I mean...in the 40s Japan WAS ACTUALLY trying to destroy the planet, just not themselves, but they were perfectly willing to destroy themselves ("One Hundred Million Souls for the Japanese Empire") because they viewed themselves as many body with one heart. And that one heart was pumping blood to decapitate, rape, biologically torture, and massacre its way through the Asiatic Isles and mainland China. No WONDER China is so fucked up after the shit they dealt with. Their own Maoist regime killing millions of them, the Japanese rape-murdering them into almost oblivion, the Germans thought-policing and just taking what they wanted....the Chinese people never mentally recovered from that shit.
Anyway sorry
Perfect example of a metaphore becoming a character
I like to think that the "good monster" thing in King of the Monsters is that dangerous things like nuclear energy can be harmful, but they can also be forces of good, providing clean energy to many people (and I guess the nuke scene is a bit of an apology? Idk)
Think about it: Godzilla is nuclear, Rodan is thermal, and Mothra is solar, all of them can harm you, but also help you when understood and treated with respect.
I like this idea but Mothra would be hydrodynamic, being blue and born under a waterfall and all.
King Ghidora represents evil space dragons trying to destroy the world
@@sarafontanini7051 Yes
I know Ghidorah's attacks are supposed to be gravity beams (whatever the hell that means) but to me and every other casual moviegoer they just look like lightning bolts. Not to mention the scene where he chomps down on an electrical transformer thingy to spam lightning out his ass.
So until the day we get a decent hold of gravity, I say Ghidorah could represent raw untamed electrical energy.
@@infinitypilot So is this movie anti electric cars? "ElEctrIC CaRs aRe tHe FutUre her dur, dur."
A great being once said " *SKREEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOONK* ."
I live by those words everyday.
He has such a way with words.
Thats all he needs to say 😆
Truly a beautiful sentiment. My day is a but brighter after that bit of wisdom.
Nuclear Weapons: Bad
Nuclear Energy: Good.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
Where does a nuclear pulse engine like Orion fall on your scale there?
@@tetsatou2815 Probably counts as Nuclear Energy as the Orion drive isn’t made to be a weapon.
Thorium: the best nuclear fuel
Can we talk about how lovable the Red's drawings of Godzilla are?
Lovable enough for me to wanna hug him.
or wanna plushy of him.
@@dedriothaphara6599 thats a good merch idea
SKREEEEOONNKKKK
“You could even say its a mysterious color, unlike almost everything seen on earth” FLASHBACKS
Greetings fellow Jobro
Each of the Monsters of King of The Monsters basically represented some sort of connection to electricity and humanity's need for it and how that leads to pollution.
Rodan? Geothermal energy when he's the good guy, coal and oil when he sides with Ghidorah.
Mothra? Wind as a power source as well as solar power.
Godzilla? Hydrodynamic dams at first, but when he goes all thermonuclear, he's representative of nuclear power.
Ghidorah? He's mankind's hunger for electricity and representative of the resulting global warming.
The message? Mankind's need for electricity is enormous, and no single source of energy can fulfill it. We can try to limit it, but that won't work (trying to kill Ghidorah fails every time) - the only way to beat it is by using a power source strong enough to fulfill it (Godzilla in his thermonuclear state representative of nuclear power). BUT even nuclear power can't do that on its own, we need the support of other technologies such as solar power (Mothra and Godzilla cooperating).
I think it would work better if the monsters didn't change allegories so much...
@
The government is still an A-hole. Less of an A-hole before, sure, but still an A-hole. Case in point: Literally everything they did to antagonize South Korea (from medieval times to WWII to the modern day "those islands were never yours and you should return it back to us even though we know it was really yours.")
See, I read King of the Monsters as an allegory of invasive species and the destruction they do to the natural habitat, or at least the main conflict.
Basically, Godzilla is an alligator, Ghidorah is a Burmese Python, and the earth is Florida.
@@FlyingFocs "and the earth is Florida" I'm writing that one down
i always thought godzilla rampaging through Tokyo represented the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. while, when godzilla fights another monster it represented the cold war going nuclear; two giant powers duking it out, destroying everything around them. it doesn't matter who wins, there won't be anyone left when the fighting ends.
Oh man, the Terminator is a Kaiju!
The big one from Salvation maybe
@@kahlzun it's called a Harvester. Just FYI.
Nah, he's a Tokusatsu villain, if you want to be a weeb about it.
Not really, unless theres a giant one in any of the movies i don't know about
@@bakomusha Fun Fact Kaiju are consider Tokusatsu
Fun fact. The pattern on godzillas skin looks like burn scars from the sailors caught by the castle bravo incident
Well, i dont doubt it
For a fun fact this fact has very little fun. Cause jesus thats a disturbing detail.
Also...you know, it was ACTUALLY a pattern caused by them trying to use a scale+skin template but not having the ability to burn it into a large rubber suit without it dripping and their paint job was done in layers, not detailing. So it's a fun little thing you made up but that's not actually why the suit looked the way it did. It was because they were doing subtractive modeling, not additive, and not detail-oriented. Cool story though, bro.
@@davidbanan. You should lol. The internet said it.
@@pr9039 hey fun fact shut the hell up and let people enjoy observations they made
Clifford the Big Red Dog 100% Kaiju.
he better be, Ive already pitched it to Universal
"Sometimes nuclear physics is more art than science." Never before has a joke put such chills down my spine.
Kim John un
As a physicist, let me tell you: it's horrifyingly true. We still don't have equations to calculate the critical mass of a fission material, all data we have comes from experiments and statistics.
Sol Zen
“Youre thinking of baking”
“I might be thinking of baking”
@@Mysteri0usChannel Well...damn...
@@Mysteri0usChannel well... dam ×2
The “King Kong is an allegory for racism” thing is a very interesting take. However after hearing about the creator of King Kong’s original vision for the film, I’m pretty sure the guy just really liked gorillas😂 at first he wanted to get an actual gorilla to fight a Komodo Dragon. But then he thought “what about a GIANT Gorilla vs a Dinosaur!” And thus King Kong was born. Although I can absolutely understand that interpretation.
If you read Stamped from the beginning the racism allegory becomes clearer. It’s hard to stomach but you do see the reality of it.
Part of me kind of wishes they had managed to make the actual gorilla vs Komodo dragon fight happen.
@@Saurophaganax1931 its not too late. You can rent a zoo and see what happens
This reminds me of the gorilla limit that had to be introduced in the comics industry because everyone liked gorillas so much
@@LinearAztec what
Red: "Only good people have godzilla and anime in their side"
Captain America: I UNDERSTOOD THAT....... I understand stood that reference
Isaiah Tomoana
Or both. The Godzilla franchise has 3 anime adaptations under its belt; but Godzilla has appear in anime 5 times.
@@whathell6t
and one American cartoon for godzilla that was too good for the movie
Johny Marcial we never speak of those "adaptations"
Sonic Xtreme99
Dude! I said “3 anime adaptations”; NOT Geno Urobuchi/Shizuno Kobune’s Godzilla Anime Trilogy which is counts as one anime adaptation.
Call a bondulance
"Humanity will make itself big and strong enough to punch it into submission" sounds like one of those things you'd find in a "humans are space orcs" story.
@Juni Post and also that we are really good at killing or finding ways of killing things
it's so true we even do it to each other for no good reason.
That’s the glory of humanity.
@Juni Post Each time earth has tried to kill off man and a few times man him self has tried we have strode out the ashes with a cocky swagger and a smile on our face stronger and smarter and better with ONLY ONE QUESTION."What else ya got?"
Earth: " Alt-right conservatives,Religious fundimentalists, spirit science and flat earthers".
Humans: "Shit!!"
@@Armendicus they arent even a threat, just a hindrance, at most a minor setback, most of humanity still believes in science and progress and as long as this keeps going (very probable considering that our entire culture and economic system is build to make progress the cornerstone of civilization) we will keep rising
That Diogenes moment, "Behold, a Kaiju!"
Thought it was a volcano at first.
-Big
-Destructive
-Loud
BEHOLD, An Overly Sarcastic Kaiju! Mount Vesuvius!
So, just Rodan then.
You mean giant lava bird. But yes.
Or a dragon.
Here is a paraphrased quote from one of my classmates when discussing Godzilla vs Kong: “I wanna see big lizard punch big monkey” and I think that sums up what people who take movies at surface level like about kaiju
Hehe big nuclear dino go brrr
I always felt that King Kong was about how humanity can never truly have complete dominion over nature and that sometimes nature have dominion over humanity.
It could also mean that it’s just ya know came out in the 30s giant monkey in change grabs a white women not the best look
@@xanielxanson2695 Does it have to be about a single thing?
@@Arkygator oh yeah sorry I thought I mentioned this but I do agree with u and it most likely has lots of inspirations
@@xanielxanson2695 i dont think that is enough to say its racist necessarily
Problem with that interpretation is that King Kong usually dies in the end (killed by fighter planes, i.e. humanity)
You know what's the greatest Kaiju fight ever: *The* *9* *Year* *Old* *Boy* *vs* *Ants*
did you know that 50 humans are killed by ants every year? perhaps it's not wise for lovecraftian entities to call us insignificant ants.
Isn't that just the plot of Ant Bully
rogue123987 yes that’s the joke
I think what may be part of how Godzilla's role changed, and how Japanese culture came to see him as, as Watanabe said, an "old friend," is that Godzilla may have acted as a cathartic outlet for those fears and grief surrounding nuclear warfare. As the big G turned from a monster (but also fellow victim) to an antihero to a champion, he may have helped them to overcome their grief. Again, to quote Watanabe as Sarazawa, they overcame their demons by facing them, and found closure.
Of course, I may be completely off base and this is absolutely nothing like how things went in Japanese culture, I don't know. That's just my best guess.
…you do realize King Kong was more sympathetic than a real antagonist right and the reason he took the girl cause she’s was quite literally the only one nice to him
She doesn't understand that and her mind clearly instantly associates gorillas with black people which is... yeah... 😬
Judging from the rest of the comments this is a lost cause my friend.
@@KingREDEADED What, trying to use logic to defeat a stupid argument?
@@The_Gallowglass Yes. You can't argue with stupid. It's just a waste of time. The best solution is always to just point and laugh.
@@everchangingworld11 Those are two of my favorite things--pointing and laughing. :D
"Nuclear power and weapons are eldritch forces" is an interesting take I've never heard before.
Am I sensing sarcasm here...?
HP Lovecraft would've felt very deflated that humanity managed to harness forces that would've made his little squid-bois into radioactive kalimari. That said, it's a topic that's been explored before by folks.
@@pRahvi0 you are not
@@DavidLopez-pc7yg Ok, I just feel like that's every hippie ever who thinks:
anything Nuclear = World War and/or End of the World
In other words, while I might have not heard that exact statement before, I have heard so much of similar claims just by watching news it's just sad.
@@pRahvi0 Nuclear power is objectively the best source of power. It is far more efficient than our current fossil fuels and produces far less waste, and is easier to dispose of. The only superior form of energy in terms of cleanliness is natural energy like solar and geothermal, and those are far less efficient than nuclear power.
I don't know why hippies would oppose atomic energy, it seems that an efficient and clean solution to world power would be something they'd support.
I never actually contextualized nuclear power in a comparison to lovecraftian horror, so Red's comparison was actually a surprise to me and highly thought provoking.
There’s actually a theory about allegory in King Of The Monster. It goes like this:
Ghidorah represents climate change. He rises from ice in the arctic, representing the melting of the polar ice caps and the gases it releases. He’s also in the middle of a giant hurricane, and massive storms is a predicted result of climate change.
Our boi Godzilla, however, represents Mother Nature. He’s doing his best to fight off this unnatural threat and protect the planet, but in the end he needs our help to stop Ghidorah, or climate change.
It’s basically an allegory saying that we need to do something about Climate Change before it destroys our home.
Well that and invasive species. Ghidora is an alien, while the rest of the monsters are natives. Unleashing Ghidora results in the natural order being completely tossed around as he has no real part in the food chain. Godzilla meanwhile is a native apex with one predator over him, but fights Ghidora over what is their territory. It's funny that invasive species also works in tandem with global warming.
ShinigamiRyan very true, the allegory is one of “when we mess with nature, nature messes back”
Another reason King Ghidorah is my favorite of the gang.
Fuzzy Dunlop Godzilla was always my boy since I was a kid, but Ghidorah is amazing
I also got some Satan vibes from him
3 heads
After he regenerates his head other follow him
He stands above the cross
Maybe it wasn't intentional, but it sure seems intentional.
"No sequel follows this format"
Shin Godzilla: "Am I a joke to you?"
Yeah, definitely more of a horror format, thought a bit more generous to American relations.
Shin is a remake. And my favorite Godzilla film.
I'd Argue Godzilla, Mothra & King Ghidora follows the format to an extent, with Godzilla serving as a ghost of Japan's war crimes. An ugly truth that can't be ignored and is just barley stopped by a combination of the guardian monsters (allegorical of Japan's Shinto belief & philosophy in nature) and the people of Japan working together to accept and confront their mistakes.
YES.
Also Return Of Godzilla
I always thought King Kong was an allegory for environmental and cultural exploitation. Capturing animals and putting them in zoos for example. The 30's was a time shortly after the big exploration days. When famous hunters were slaughtering big game in Africa and after the treasure seekers were done looting ancient tombs.
A story can have multiple interpretations. King Kong can be a discussion on exploitation, an allegory on racism that equates 'white' people as (savage) hunters and 'black' people as gorillas or even just a big monkey smashing things up. And honestly that is what makes it a relevant story to this day.
@@the_tactician9858 Yes, but Red isn't arguing that the movie is a metaphor n slavery, but has racist subtext on how black people = gorillas apparently, which is an... interesting take which makes me wonder if it's impossible to make a movie about a gorilla without Red thinking it's people being racist and thinking it's referring to black people.
@@GMP1isReal Yeah it's kind of hilarious that a bunch of people are seeing a giant ape in a movie, thinking "oh that's obviously an allegory for black people" and then calling the filmmaker who just wanted to see a gorilla fight a dragon racist.
@@GMP1isReal If anything Red like a typical leftist will always see a monkey and think black people.
The racisms is pretty on the nose, it Kong doesnt need to be the allegory because the movie clearly shows it. its in the 1930's and back then racism was pretty much accepted as the norm. There was no need to hide subtext when it was opening out in the open for all to see.
Its more of a allegory of environmental exploitation as Zoos and circuses were all the rage back in the 30's. Movies were yet to hit main stream, so people chose to go see wild animals or hit a circus up over them.
In short Red is like any leftist Don Quixote on the constant hunt for the giant that no longer exists. Although you can argue that the real monsters are those who constantly try to think monkey = black man..
@@GMP1isReal aren't we all apes anyway? So does it have to be just an allegory for black people? What, did other ethnic groups stop being primates all of a sudden?
"that's how you attract philosophers" lmao
...when Red got to the bit about "in later movies, Godzilla's job is usually to fight even bigger monsters," I was a little disappointed we didn't get a crack about the trope of "unleash Sealed Evil in a Can to fight another evil (and possibly become a love interest)" that's so popular in anime...
See Also, Hellsing.
"when is a giant Kaiju not a kaiju? WHEN IT'S A GIANT METAPHOR!"
two seconds in and already love this
All (most) Kaiju's are giant monsters, not all giant monsters are kaiju's
Shin Godzilla was a very interesting critique of the response of the Japanese Government to recent emergencies, having some pretty disturbing tsunami imagery at one point.
It's also got the most disturbing version of Godzilla imo
Honestly, I'm a huge fan of the thought that Clifford is, in fact, a Kaiju.
But what is he an allegory of?
@@arandomstartreknerd7261 what it would be like if dogs were scaled to how good boys/girls they are.
"It's... Clifford."
*dramatic bass drop*
@@embasorangiratina36 My dog would be massive, and yet there would be dogs even bigger than her...
Also the majority of chihuahuas would be like 3 inches tall.
@@merrittanimation7721 you win
Now we finally know what is meant when Red likens the comments section unto a kaiju.
Also, Pacific Rim was great. Shame they never made a second.
You can't hide from the truth
Uprising had a couple good things going for it, but its disconnection with the first film and the comics, and how badly the merchandise dropped the ball by not having a scrapper action figure, and a few other plot elements really weighed it down. The comics are worth reading though.
But The Black is a true sequel
"We're going to join Daddy"
HORRIFIED FACES OF THE AUDIENCE
I had the same reaction
but i don't smoke...
I specifically remember this scene from when I watched the original Japanese version of the film after years of seeing the Raymond Burr version. Really heavy stuff.
(It should be noted that the American version of this film actually kept most of the Japanese plot and the central American character was simply present and didn't save the day. The anti-nuke message did get watered down, though.)
That definitely shocked me really badly, I wasn't expecting that at all (though i should have in hindsight). Now I really need to get my hands on a way to watch it....
@@chrisashford3379 Also known as censorship.
You can tell who came from Twitter based on whether they're talking about the King Kong allegory or not.
granted , have did make a video about pride month myths
Youre right, why would people mention important subtexts and cultural contexts
@@AedanTheGrey I don't think you have the context behind my original comment
"You could say it's a mysterious colour unlike any seen on earth."
Now I'm just curious what the shambling pile of issues in human form that was H. P. Lovecraft would come up with if he'd lived to see nuclear energy become a thing...
Probably something racist but maybe surprisingly effective as existential horror(?).
Probably just Godzilla but racist. Kongzilla, if you will.
Nah...unless we either transplant him in the modern day or he actually lived to see 1960 I don't think he would even write something like his stories
He’d blame the Japanese. (For all the irony that’s worth.)
Lunictd
Lovecraft becomes notably less racist as time goes on, if not hit by the cancer train we’d likely remember him very differently and I know just a joke but it’s not the sole characteristic he deserves to be remembered for.
“Mysterious colors unlike any seen on earth”
*Vietnam flashbacks*
I was looking for this comment. Well didn't expect the Nam Flashback but still.
That moment when you realize the differences between lovecraft’s description of the life around the well isn’t too different from Chernobyl (Save the moving trees).
Exactly. Thought you did LSD while on duty.
JUST MOVE AWAY!
Mysterious colors, etc, etc...
"No sequel follows this format"
Godzilla 1985, Godzilla vs. Biollante, GMK, and Shin Godzilla would like to have a word with you.
And Godzilla vs. Hedorah
Godzilla is DOOM! In all the movies you mention he is the lesser Evil. (except Godzilla 1985, where he is weak)
@@dinosaurspy7096the only one of those where godzilla is even vaguely a lesser evil is biollante(and hedorah, but that wasn't in the original comment). please, when you say something, you should do even a slight amount of research.
@@anonymousoff-brand7538 Ghidorah the 3-headed monster
Godzilla vs. Space Godzilla
Godzilla vs. Destroyah
Godzilla Final Wars
Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla
@@CollinMcLean none of those are mentioned in the original comment. and none of them really fit with the format.
Tbh I think the whole "Serizawa blows up a nuke to save Godzilla" ordeal is a sign of something I and many of us can probably agree is very great: It's the change of the entire societal relation to nukes, they are no longer a constant threat, Midnight never happened and we've lived to see the sunrise despite all odds, we have effectively tamed the nuclear beast if you will. Nuclear war is still terrifying to us, of course, if we ever got anywhere close to midnight we'd be shitting so many bricks we'd have enough materials to build Rome in a day, but we've gotten past the threat of nukes and with that, so too has Godzilla needed to change for it. Now, just like nukes, Godzilla is still terrifying, but he isn't an active threat without us making some massive mistakes at which point if we were that stupid we'd probably deserve it, we've effectively come to terms with the power of nuclear weapons and so their use has changed to last resort weapons or, in the case of King of the Monsters, the detonation of the nuke to save Godzilla is effectively a direct sign of how we no longer need to fear the idea of nuclear war and how much we've grown.
Fun fact: Godzilla's head was modeled after a mushroom cloud. This is noticable when he pocks his head over the hill scene.
Wow
Thanks best gen nest hen
CoolTrainer: VautBoy-39 That was an early design drawing, but it got scrapped because that design had "strange simian-like features" and they were looking for something more akin to a Dinosaur.
@@kevinnorwood8782 the more overt mushroom-inspired design was scrapped, but even the reptilian one still carries over some elements of it. Watch the scene where Godzilla attacks the radio tower, his head is framed to resemble a mushroom cloud.
@@42Caio Oh yeah. Now that I'm thinking about that scene, you're right.
'A mysterious color unlike any seen on earth" That's meta...
And explains why protagonists are all white...
The way she said that out the side of her mouth was perhaps the most I had ever laughed at such dark humor.
Luis Otavio Silva vietnam war flashbacks
welcome to lovecraft...
You mean Purple?
I always loved how the 2005 King Kong touches more on how tragic such a creature would be,
being a highly intelligent ape, the last of its kind, the usually gentle giant turned violent as he is hunted by predators on a sinking world at his old age.
Finally bonding with a similar intelligence for the first time in years, feeling as though he could protect Anne Darrow from the monsters where he couldn't for his family, before being taken from his home and paraded as a spectacle by arrogant mankind. And then dying tragically as he searched for and was able to spend his last moments with his first ever friend.
I feel like the misunderstood nature of gorillas and most other animals is what I'm thankful got taken from the original and translated well enough into 2005 Kong.
Its a shame the Monsterverse Kong is comparatively very shallow in characterization.
For what it's worth, using Godzilla as a semi-benevolent force does arguably send a message on nuclear weapons, just a different one. Basically, it turns Godzilla into a nuclear deterrent. Also, he could be used as a metaphor for nuclear power, which is a good thing when handled with care.
The "nuke" question you keep bringing up makes perfect sense to me. "Nuke" is technology, a tool; it is both good and bad, all depending one how it is used. It is both the hydrogen bomb, as well as a theoretical method of interstellar travel. It is Chernobyl, but also the power plant likely a few hours away if you're living in the US. I think the fact that nukes are considered bad in some of these movies but good in others is a good thing since it really isn't black and white like that. Nuclear energy is literally the reason any of us are alive right now, what with the sun existing and all. It is also a thing that could end our species forever. Both sides of that story should be told.
Finally found someone that gets it
We need to learn how to use nuclear energy perfectly to unlock fusion energy
It's like nuclear energy but less dangerous
Nukes isn't nuclear energy tho, Nukes are weapons and nothing more. I agree that nuclear energy is good and bad, but the nuke itself is nothing good at all.
@@runman624 Fission energy is already safe. I don’t think you should make something extremely safe even more safer.
@@robertoroberto9798 its safer than oil, but not extremely safe. Fusion tho is completely safe.
@@ProjektTaku It still is quite safe. Worker deaths per thousand terawatt hour is 0.03, contrasted to 0.04 in wind and 1.3 in Hydro.
Godzilla became a lot friendlier when the nuclear power started being used to power Japan instead of destroying it.
And USA became a more cooperative, than controlling, ally.
@@counterstructure4908 and then they retaliated with... ANIME
Goodzilla 2000 plot was about nuclear power plants if i remember right
It's no coincidence the monster became hostile again in Shin Godzilla after the Fukushima accident.
Coming back to this video after Godzila Minis One makes me glad that godzilla has been restored to his rightful place as a metaphor
Red: describes Pacific Rim
Me: I didn't realize Pacific Rim was anime like that.
I'm surprised she didn't give Evangelion a mention.
@@BlackEpyon that really is going to attract the philosophers
@@npc6817 Quite a fustercluck, ain't it?
@@BlackEpyon I worked as a guardian for a church turned museum/auditorium.
during my city's big comics convention (Lucca comics & games if you were wondering) said church also hosted panels for it, including one about the philosopies of evangelion and let me tell you, they stayed almost a hour overtime because they just couldn't stop debating how much Yung was this or how much Nietzche was that.
got me into the series tho so it was good in the end, someone brought one mean unit 02 cosplay too.
Red has become tedious.
“How will humanity handle giant unstoppable monster?”
Monsterfuckers: *suddenly paying attention*
Ignoring it, pretending it doesn't exist until it's in their faces and they literally can't ignore it any longer. The louts.
"Sometimes you want a deeply tragic terrifying movie to help you process your communal trauma and warn the rest of the world against hubristic self-destruction and sometimes you just want to watch a giant nuclear dinosaur beat up a dragon from space."
Not only do I love that sentence for how hilarious it is, but for how true it is.
the duality of man
I think that Godzilla's change of role over the years is also a representation of the evolution of the Japanese people's rapport with nuclear in general, not only the bombing. Before, the only use of nuclear energy was only use was bombs but now it not only provides energy to everyone but it is also the best transitional energy for ecology's sake. Sure, accidents can happens but if humanity is responsible enough those shouldn't happen.
and when an accident does happen, they make a movie like Shin Godzilla which is a direct response to the Fukushima disaster
@@nikomiller this response needs more likes - it’s an amazing response
Godzilla’s role had already changed by 1955. I think its more a representation of the fact that you literally cannot make a giant, super profitable, movie monster and not serialize the hell out of it for the sake of pure entertainment and profit.
"At times in order to heal our wounds, we must make peace with the demons that created them." One of my favorite lines of King of The Monsters. It would've been a throw away line if said by anyone other than a Japanese. Really adds to the theme of the movie
Yeah, twisted allegory or no I totally adore what they did with the relationship to Godzilla in that movie
Then the twist allegory reflects the reality that Godzilla as a franchise bridges the West and Japan, despite its intended commentary.
"Sometimes Nuclear Physics is a little more art than science"
Best description I've heard in my entire life for that
Art is explosion (geijutsu wa bakuhatsu da).
@@barsni4779 I want that written on a scroll in neat calligraphy now. with the demolition guy from atlantis drawn japanese style on the bottom
@pyropulse Are you a big fan of sniffing your own farts?
@@barsni4779
I thought that diedra from Naruto is the one who said said that 😂
@@zozidedodo780 He did said that. Also I don't know if its a quote or no, but the phrase is epic regardless.
Watching this half a year later, during a pandemic: those Hollywood movies like to offer up the optimistic idea that human kind would stand together against a common threat of that magnitude, foregoing political differences and that jazz. Well... that didn't really work out. Oops.
You want a film that realistically predicts how governments would react to a kaiju attack? Check out Shin Godzilla
Well, that's because it's a virus, and not a giant monster!
Yeaah
It might help if its a visible threat that has a theoretical victory point (killing it); with a less visible (microscopic, even) threat? A tad harder.
A common enemy is a great uniter.
@@williampym3741 Or a virus? World War Z (the book, not the "adaptation" movie)
I always thought Kong worked as man's relationship to nature. By bringing a savage curiosity to civilization you risk both your civilization and the curiosity itself. "Twas beauty that killed the beast" more our protection of what we hold beautiful.
It's, it's actually very simple. The guy who made King Kong just wanted to see a gorilla fight a komodo dragon....
Like, he literally wanted to get a real, living ape and throw it into a pen with a komodo dragon and record what happened for the movie. But, not surprisedly, or surprising based on the care of animals in movies can then, it was decided not to throw two animals in a cage fight together.
He then learned that if he hired Willis O'Brian he could have a GIANT gorilla fight a T-Rex and, well, he couldn't pass up a chance like that.
Basically King Kong is nothing more than a guy who really, really likes gorillas getting a chance to make a movie about one.
Ignore him. People have been trying to gaslight everyone into thinking there was no racist allegory because of this all over the comment section. As if one man’s original movie idea erases all the obvious coding in the actual final film and we’re all just being wee sensitive lil worriers worked up over nothing.
Oh cut it out, I saw you in another person’s comment and you’re not letting people at least share their findings.
I never thought of King Kong as a racial metaphor. I am sure I will be told that is white privilege, I first so the movie as a kid so I first saw him as an exciting character/special effect and than as a metaphor for environmental exploitation. Sorry for going all space 🐉 Red, but no.
@@nkbujvytcygvujno6006 Bro, stop. It's not a racist allegory, and anyone who still pushes this kind of nonsense literally just isn't doing their research and is spreading misinformation.
Unlike 2023, not everything back in 1933 was about fucking race.
Kaijin: Human-sized monster.
Kaiju: Giant-sized monster.
Pacific Rim: an allegory for climate change that isn't idiotic, that includes a giant robot using a shipping barge as a katana. This is why it is my favorite movie ever.
It's perfectly balanced between "hehe big robot go boom" and "the kaiju are an allegory for the inescapable challenge we as a species have on the matter of climate change" and its great
@@agustinvenegas5238 "big robot go boom" That fucking killed me.
"Using a shipping barge as a katana" "isn't idiotic?"
@@Tfin If anything it's more eco-friendly than the regular use of a barge
I love these comments
Japan: Godzilla was created as a result of nuclear warfare, symbolizing the dangerous potential of-
Americans: Ima pretend I didn’t see that
Edit: “corrected” this because apparently correcting a joke was important to certain people
it starts from the beginning of the series actually, when it came to america, they added a white guy, played around with the shots, made it more "acceptable" for the american public... i watched bits and pieces of the first one for the US and metaphorically chucked it out the window for the japanese version
Ah, classic US
@@yvonnethompson844
US adaptation: You know what this allegoric monster movie needs? A love triangle!
Also, I'm torn between respecting the fact that they didn't pretend the setting was somewhere in America (see most early dubbed anime, or even recent video games) and face palming that they thought we needed an American audience avatar to enjoy the film. He was mostly just a witness.
Video shows exactly why it’s not symbolizing the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and nagasaki and rather the nuclear fallout of nuclear testing in the regio-
Comment section: imma pretend I didn’t see that
Godzilla's development from WMD allegory to environmental protector wasn't an American move. That's just his character arc throughout the Showa movies. The Legendary Godzilla is basically just late Showa Era Godzilla plucked out of his time frame and set into the modern world.
And most importantly: kaijus are a great metaphor for the comment section.
those clips always catch me off guard and make me laugh my ass off
This need more likes
"Kaiju movies can never agree if nukes are good or bad"
Thats because a weapon can be used both as a safeguard and a tool of aggression. Also, nukes are the most powerful and devastating tool in humanity's arsenal. The moment we figure out anti matter bombs or implosion spheres or portable black holes or whatever, that thing will topple the nuke from its throne. But until then, when faced with insurmountable odds, the nuke will forever be the grand equalizer and the ace in the hole for any plot.
Theyre still bad tho
I always saw Serizawa’s sacrifice as a different allegory all together, about paranoia and technological advancement. Serizawa is specifically a remnant of a older time, a past where Godzilla is who you have said he is. So mapping the correct fears of the older generation of the youngsters destroying their legacy, even though an unrealistic fear, makes sense to me.
Basiaclly, it’s taking the character who SHOULD be the most paranoid of nukes and traumatized out of the entire cast. The one who has the most reason to hate nuclear weaponry, the most reason to despise Godzilla, and showing that the scars of the past, while real and important, shouldn’t be used as an excuse stop the future.
A character who is dying because he is sacrificing the part of himself that hates nukes in order to accept that the potential good outweighs the harm it has already caused. In the movie credits, Godzilla and the other Kaiju actually do cause technological advancements and natural revival, because of its new “defender of nature” allegory.
Detonating a nuke point blank with his own two hands, forcing himself to do that which has hurt him so much when others have done it. Forcing himself to kill the part of him that wants to hide behind his scars.
And maybe, juuuuust maybe…he might have been willing to die, because part of him is still not willing to stick around and see the aftermath of destruction, if it turns out he was wrong to do this, to take the path of the theoretical greater good over the literal suffering of the past.
Jarod Liberty Brilliant summation! Thank you for this, it puts it into words really well
Thank you for kindly explaining what Red doesn’t get. Honestly if she could interpret Pacific Rim as an allegory for climate change why couldn’t she see the interpretation of KOTM’s allegory of living symbiotically with nature? Man and Nature living side by side helping themselves for a better future? It’s not that hard to get.
"Sometimes, the only way to heal our wounds is to make peace with the demons who created them.'"
Come on, Red. Was that so hard?
Hey now, everyone, don’t go insulting Red. Her POV is also valid, it is fiction after all. It’s a legitimate criticism, just because some of us got what I said from it doesn’t mean that’s what they meant to do. Hell, I’ll even admit that they didn’t handle that scene well
She’s trying and succeeding in giving us such wonderful and educational content, along with Blue. Be nice, they deserve it
Jarod Liberty fair enough. I’d be lying if I said I didn’t enjoy this video. In fact I rather liked it.
I'd buy a t shirt with "mysterious colors unlike any seen on eath" on it
it's from lovecraft, i'm sure some hipsters have already produced one.
But what color would the shirt be? What color!?
W H A T C O L O R
Look on Redbubble. They have lots of merch on there. Including that line on tshirts.
@@trashcanyounot1798 magenta
"First and Currently last use of Nuclear Weapons in warfare"
Name me a more ominous sentence
Technically Godzilla and the monsters of Toho and Daiei studios are "daikaiju" which roughly translates to "giant monster" while kaiju can be a rough translation for anything from a lycanthrope/werewolf to mushroom-people. A "kaiju" is anything that is strange or weird, but Godzilla or King Kong would best be described as daikaiju or "giant monsters"
*cough * cough Japanese mythology
i feel this phrase made by moi could be said: Not allkaiku are Daikaiju but all Daikaiju are kaiju.
Reminds me of how in Japan, "anime" just refers to anything animated, and AFAIK is also a loanword from French. So technically, King of the Hill is indeed anime.