If they were successful, then there would be a really amazing dinosaur theme park. But you know some people would wander into pens or restricted areas and die. Or something would try to escape. It's just an unfortunate event that happens at all zoos.
My biggest concern at the end of Fallen Kingdom was the compys getting loose (yes, more so than Rexy running around) so I think they would be the biggest liability. They would get out and create havoc. That first scene we get of them in the book has forever scared me.
Yup, thinking about what you said give me a thrills. Just imagine Compys taking on every park, sever, hunting for smaller, and bigger prey in large groups. It would cause both ecoligic disaster and wreck havock among literally every person living in regions of the world with warm climate, taking over almost all continents. Gosh!
If The Hunters were successful, I would think the bit between Hammond and Malcolm from the start of the film would be more apropos. Hammond: We're not going to make the same mistakes again! Malcolm: No, you're...uh...you're gonna make all new ones...
First off, I enjoy all your videos on the JP canon. So, my thoughts on what would have happened at JP San Diego? Disaster a lot sooner than 10 years. These are creatures in which little to no knowledge is available on their care and behavior. They were captured on a island that was an incubator for the failed Jurassic Park. The team to care for them had left long ago, as well as the team to learn from them. Alan Grant was completely uninvolved, and the Paleontologist that was there (for argument sake I will assume he went uneaten in the waterfall cave) seemed to be more the giddy kid with his toys then the serious studious Grant. This serious lack of background and knowledge - under the direction of Ludlow - lends itself to disaster sooner than later. Ludlow would have rushed everything for the sake of a dollar, taking short cuts along the way, short cuts that would literally come back to bite him in more the backside! I would give escape and chaos about 6 months with good luck, 6 weeks without it. Just my opinion.
Of all the creatures the hunters caught, the most problematic right away, in my opinion, would've been the Pachycephalosaurus because of their tendency to ram into things with their thick heads (just ask that one guy who got sent flying through his car during the roundup scene), Stegosaurus because of their spiked tails, Triceratops because of their horned heads, and Compsognathus because of their small size and carnivorous behavior. The baby T-Rex would eventually become a problem once it gets bigger, and the Parasaurolophus and Gallimimus, while probably not as troublesome as the others, could still be quite the hassle to deal with one way or another.
Jurassic Park San Diego would also fail big time. the theatre space looks cramped. Assuming Ludlow didn't release the dinosaurs at once, most would be stuck in cages most of the day. If the dinosaurs didn't break out due to limited space, animal rights activists would take action, possibly a repeat of the hunter camp sabotage.
Love your channel man it's a great escape for me to come to when I need to get away from the world and your work is HIGHLY entertaining because I too am a HUGE fellow JP fan and I won't lie that every time I see anything JP related or announcements I still get the same chills I had as a kid seeing the commercials for JP and TLW JP before they came out in theaters. Keep it up Klayton this shit is AWESOME bro!!!
I watch the JP franchise many many times in just one month, its been like that for as long as i can remember. And watching your videos is what is causing those numbers to double😂😂 always putting me in the mood to rewatch em all!✊🏻🤘🏼
I hadn't really ever considered this what if, but, now that you've given me cause to do so, I agree with you that something would inevitably go wrong at some point--and as you pointed out, much more quickly and easily than with Jurassic World because the World was established over years of research whereas Ludlow's would have been set up under less studied conditions. I'm not sure how much damage would necessarily occur or if the herbivores would simply avoid human populations if they got out, but if it were the younger Rex after he'd grown, that would be a legal nightmare.
Great and awesome video Klayton Fioriti, I enjoyed today's content and I had fun watching this video, thank you for the entertainment and for the informations, keep up with the videos.
I always imaged that the Jurassic Park San Diego project if successful would result in a mass dinosaur breakout and with an enraged herbivore stampede rampaging through the streets, with the animals ultimately being destroyed.
Klayton, please just bring the initial roar at the beginning of the videos a bit lower, I keep forgetting and blast my ears with a roar every time. Always listen on headphones :) thanks love the videos and keep em coming.
I have a "what if" idea: What if Nedry hadn't gotten lost on Isla Nublar and successfully delivered the embryos? Would Biosyn have been able to create their own Jurassic Park and dinosaurs we haven't seen in the movies would be in the sequels like the Metriacanthosaur?
If they had been successful, then Jurassic Park San Diego would have been a hit, and that InGen would not only bring the animals to the Mainland, but also recoup the company's assets, as well as finding a sanctuary to leave the creatures in peace, as long as they don't sell them as weapons.
Interesting to think of all the ramifications; storyline could still be made. What about the Hitchhiking Raptors ? Weren't they responsible for the Lost Crew in JP2 ? Havoc would ensue on ships before reaching San Diego.
Remy HocAge That was the planned concept but ultimately was cut from the film,but I do think if raptors made it to the main land they could probably survive if not even thrive.
Another awesome video. Any chance you can do one about how ludlow organized the harvesting expedition to isla sorna? Because it would have been a stretch with all the financial difficulties and lawsuits the company was facing, convincing the board of directors to fund such an operation, creating the hunting equipment and organizing the logistics of it could not have been easy. Or CHEAP for that matter. That is a video we would all love to see.
Well, first off, no one would have been killed on Isla Sorna, I feel as though the park would have worked on the mainland... but just as in Jurassic world, visitors would start to get bored with what they had, leading to them going back to the island to get predatory dinosaurs in addition to the herbivores they captured previously, then some years down the line, same thing, and we get an Indominus monster being made. ... I still find it hard to believe people would get tired of seeing dinosaurs as quickly as Jurassic World suggests
Thorus Zwolf I mean it’s not that hard to believe the same thing has happen to most zoo animals. The first 2 times people see elephants their amazed but later on they just see them as just another animal. The same thing would happen with dinosaurs.
I could imagine the Ingen hunters gathering more dinosaur genre after Jurassic Park San Diego became a hit, especially regarding any sauropods. The only concern I'd have, as a mentioned in a previous video, is the amount of space the dinosaurs would have to roam around. Maybe if JP:SD became successful, they'd make more room for the animals to explore so they won't get stressed and possibly escape.
Actually if you think about it, Nick van Owen is one of the most important characters in the franchise. Without him, the three movies that came after wouldn't have existed, at least not the way we know them
That is true, but seeing a successful San Diego theme park would still be pretty cool. Like Jurassic World, it's gotta be some time before it fails and seeing how much people enjoy an open park would an alternative I'd also like to see
4:57 Another factor to why Jurassic World would've inevitably fell was Mt. Sibo. Even if they never created the Indominus Rex, the volcano would eventually become active. so, the resort was going to end regardless of whatever decisions were being made. ..if anything, the Indominus' attack spared everyone a far worse catastrophe.
its my opinion that if Ludlow hade managed to open the San Diego park it be a disaster. Human arrogance is a running theme in these movies, how we assume control over these powerfull animals. If he opened the park the dinosaurs would get loose and there not be a single T.rex causing havoc but a stampede of them.
@Klaytion fioriti hey i was wondering about the explorers from the first movie. i always wondering if they were completely electritcal or did they ever say they could be driven Manually like taken off the track and drive like a normal car
I feel they would have problems with the larger animals. Looking at photos and models of the amphitheater. Its painfully obvious that the paddocks are to small for the giant bodied and giant herd animals. While there would be no problems at first. As the animals instinct to migrate and forage kicked in. The stegosaurus and triceratops would start to become easily agitated and aggressive. Add the fact that the Rex would need a paddock all to itself and you cut your living space for these large animals. Another problem is going to be illness. Being in a metropolitan area. The animals would be subjected to modern pollutants that they are not adapted for. They would be rife with illnesses and require constant medical treatment. You could supplant this with rotating the stock with the dinosaurs on the islands. But then you run the risk outbreak and then you have DX virus situation. The last major problem I see would be with the geological profile of California itself, specifically earthquakes. One good shake and you lose the power grid or a fence pylon falls over. Next thing you know is a 7 ton carnivore loose downtown. Or worse compys on the lose and breeding like sewer rats with a population explosion. Just a thought
I know it's not the most exciting question to have but I wonder if Roland would have taken that job offer had Ajay not died. I'd love to think he would have but, probably not.
Hah. First thumb~ And right into a glorious roar~ And into a WHAT IF??? Well then~~ and such an interesting subject matter to boot! I like~ Also in terms of what would happen to this enclosure, I'm sure that the animals would get aggressive or sick often given just how big they are. The place looks WAY to small to adequately fulfill needs of space for these animals, to the point that animal activists would riot after a time. So unless expansion was in plan, the park is doomed to fail because these men "are not reminded of how very small they are."
I don't really have a problem with him releasing the captured dinosaurs. Now his removing the bullets from Tembo's cartridges however, that was an act of monumental stupidity that only a ALF level animal rights extremist is capable of.
@@Devin_Stromgren that is exactly my problem with him. Releasing the dinos bothers me much less- though if I was one if the hunters I might feel quite differently.
The basic problem of JP remains the same, whether it's on Hammond's island near Costa Rica or a zoo in San Diego. "Life finds a way." Or as the novel's first page puts it, "You cannot recall a new form of life." It's inevitable that newly-created animals will eventually escape their quarantine and mix with the rest of nature.
You should do a video based on the fact that the Raptors and Compys’ are venomous in the novels, but not in the movies. As are the troodons in Jurassic Park: the game. That venom and it’s effects adds an extra terror to the dinosaurs and their attacks.
I actually think it would go wrong quite quickly for 2 reasons. 1) they hardly knew anything about the animals (whole reason rex got is they gave it too much sedative and then too much adrenaline) Any random mess up could easily happen with the other dinos 2) it's mentioned that the San Diego exhibit was already almost completed by Hammond b4 shifting to Nublar. If the Nublar resort had so many issues, who is to say San Diego didn't (plus Ludlow was in a hurry to get it finished asap)
My simple reaction to this theory? Ian's got that covered for Me! 😁 "Taking dinosaurs off the island is the worst idea in the long, sad history of bad ideas!!"
with all you said that woud actually happen.. but the question is would Malcolm, Sarah and tlw cast return? or just Malcolm Sarah and Nick? i beleieve that in the alternitive look would come from the novels as a pararell thing, eventually captering the dinosaurs being sent back to isla sorna having Ludlow actually listen to Malcolm .. that would make Isla Sorna instead of Isla Nublar the main scene.. think about it.. for the 4th movie Alan Grant would venture to Isla Sorna much like in the 3rd movie and maybe discover they are dying or breeding a lot.. like in the old script back in 2009 i think it was? where Grant and Malcolm go to Isla Sorna to report it all the mysterious things and how the dinosaurs got into Costa Ric by witnesses followed by some deaths by velociraptors on the mainland.. so you would had either Owen Grady on the team as a InGen member who was studying raptor bahevior during the whole movie thing they are sucessfully able to tranquilize the raptors in the jungles of Costa Rica; while team 2 is in sorna and they report to Owen the whole thing while yes ofcourse people had died in their team leaving Grant, Malcolm, Sarah and maybe a other InGen member survive making way for Jurassic world as the 4th leading to the 5th where Owen is the main character except this movie would still be called jurassic park or still be called jurassic world samething storyline but very different in a way, and kinda like in the 1st movie people evacuate because the volcano seems to be making signs of explosian the workers stay behind to sedate dinosaurs transport them to the mainland so you gotta like a real interesting story there ( would not be a fast paced movie) they would been held back if at all the hybred dino would been a thing but i doubt it would have been but maybe it would been so.. you would see the whole thing of hybred vs. human much like the battle between owen and raptor hybred but its on the island Owen on the helicopter place surrounded by lava and he notices the mosasaur so he gets lucky by knowing what he is doing yet again since i-rex had a sibling he most likely fight eachother having owen escape and having blue and her siblings fight them too so Owen, Clair and other 2 escape same way as they die or 1 of them live so she won't be alone.. mosasaur chomps the last hybred giant helicopter comes in as Blue and other one if at all alive sedate her to get her off the island but by the boat as they transport her making way to the 6th movie we will all see
I think that Jurassic Park San Diego would actually work out rather well. I believe the problem with the Nublar facility was that Hammond wanted it to be somewhat natural for the animals. The San Diego facility was set up more like a zoo. It looks like all the paddocks were recessed into the ground all the way around. Unlike Nublar where the animals and people were on the same level.
It would be a good start for them, But in the long run errors are known to show and come's; That too if each of the holding pins that houses them are secured with heavy duty doors and locks, then the rate of them getting out are slim. The other trouble I see is that we as humans cant control them since they be going off natural nature like they did when they were around 65 Million years ago, and they will start to cause problems. Its always a Best Idea to A large mounts of security to help watch and be sure trouble and problems don't happen if they were successful.
I agree, the worst problem would be the compies. I guess they could be eradicated by using trained dogs or something, though. I don't think the T-Rex was meant to be a part of the display... we should think what would have happened if Hammond's team had never made it to the island. Or better yet, if Nick van Owen had been the one eaten alive by the compies...
I think there woud've been a problem eventually like in Jurassic Park and Ian Malcolm would now have 'campfire stories' to which Peter Ludlow would be a witness.
My biggest problem with JP San Diego is that it just doesn't look like it is large enough to house the dinosaurs that they were bringing in. Even with all the extra paddocks around the amphitheater shown in the models and concept art, it feels like the enclosures are just too small for them.
I don't know if you're going to do another what if video but I have a interesting idea. What if dr. Henry Wu created the indominus Rex during the first Jurassic Park? I know it's stupid but I think it would be interesting.
Have to point something out, it’s on the main land, aka no way the government isn’t going to have some response task force to take control of the park security failed, utilizing high caliber weapons, high strength tranq darts, armored vehicles, and definitely training on how to react depending on the dinosaur, one good thing that park was going to have or more like not have, is raptors, think of it yes a T. rex is huge and definitely a threat, but a threat you physically can hind from easily like going in a building, so if that escapes just don’t be in the open, raptors however are a whole different story, go in a building, it can follow due to being small enough, plus harder to spot due to being stealthy, smart, and smaller, now with that does come disadvantages, being smaller they’re weaker and at least you can kinda sorta do something, and not as high caliber of a weapon is needed to deal with them, so I think if they kept the park to the animals discussed, yeah I think the park will run fine for years, a lot of factors play into why it would, better and more available resources, more security, more and better protocol, and the fact that even if weather went extreme they would have better prep to move the dinosaurs and do more to prevent something bad, heck I honestly think, especially without raptors, their would be little to no incidents past even the events of the 3rd film which in these events, with Peter alive to run Ingen and a fully running park that likely won’t have many issues, probably things like the Spinosaurus wouldn’t have been made which in turn likely means Jurassic world probably wouldn’t happen unless Peter decided to do it since with a fully running park he’d be able to amount resources to build another which he’d likely do, so literally could’ve resulted in genuine safe dinosaur parks in multiple areas with very few incidents altogether that would be in operation past possibly even current canon timeline
I've had an idea for a fanfiction for some time about this idea. The idea is that the park is successful and under control but they can't breed dinos in the United States due to some law. InGen is basically kicked out of Costa Rica, so they go where they already have property: Kenya, as mentioned by Hammond in the first movie. So InGen makes dinos in Kenya, but they get out, and a parasaurolophus ends up on Roland's ranch somehow. Roland calls Ludlow and says "Elvis is in my back yard. Are you going to fix this or do I have to?". The dinos cause a large amount of damage to the savanna ecosystem, food competition with the natural animal population and such. The story ends up with Roland teaming up with Gerry and Sarah Harding and Van Owen to round up the dinos and convince the Kenyan government to kick InGen out.
I think they should bring Dodgson back in the last movie. He does have an opening if they made it where he was at the auction. He could be the main villain in the third Jurassic World Series.
Hey Klayton, why do you think that Ludlow planned to include only herbivores (apart from the Compys) in San Diego? The maps I've seen include a pen for a T-Rex. jurassic-pedia.com/jurassic-park-san-diego-map/ jurassicpark.fandom.com/wiki/Jurassic_Park:_San_Diego The dinosaur list in the wiki also includes Brachiosaurus which I think Ludlow didn't plan to bring back (shouldn't they have been killed because they were economically unpopular?), so that list seems to refer to Hammond's original plans. The map beside it, however, does not include any sauropods and seems to refer to Ludlow's plans. I neither see any film evidence for the Rex being a part of the plan nor any evidence against it. But he seemed to be a greedy and ruthless guy and I think he would have used it as an argument for the safety of the San Diego park if it was planned to include only herbivores apart from the Compys. Aside from that, there's Roland Tembo's line when he requests to hunt "one of the tyrannosaurs, a male, a buck ONLY" - could this be a hint to Ludlow wanting to keep one alive for the park in San Diego? Thank you so much for your awesome content, I really enjoy it!
The compies alone freak me out. I mean, those things would be small enough to sneak here and there, reproduce like hell, and eventually spread enough to... get here and eat me in my backyard?!
2:49 How could the dinosaurs escape from the coliseum? it's made of stone and the outside paddocks have steel bars and are down low like in real zoos I think this park is the safest one I really couldn't see anything escaping there
This park and Jurassic worlds big issue was management all mainly caring about what will bring the most income while ignoring the negatives it has on the animals
Pin for Carnotaurus finally?
Derrick C. Wesker I don’t understand why if u just say *pin* then you get pinned?
Congratulations you are pinned🎉🎊🎈🍾
If they were successful, then there would be a really amazing dinosaur theme park. But you know some people would wander into pens or restricted areas and die. Or something would try to escape. It's just an unfortunate event that happens at all zoos.
That is much more likely
Harambe the velociraptor.
Selfi with velociraptor!
We'd have the dinosaur version of Harambe.
GO FOR THE LEGS! THE LEGS!!! WATCH THE TAIL!!!
Still the best part throughout the whole movie :) Love this video already!
What a coincidence, I just watched the lost world the other day. Great video Klayton.
My biggest concern at the end of Fallen Kingdom was the compys getting loose (yes, more so than Rexy running around) so I think they would be the biggest liability. They would get out and create havoc. That first scene we get of them in the book has forever scared me.
Yup, thinking about what you said give me a thrills.
Just imagine Compys taking on every park, sever, hunting for smaller, and bigger prey in large groups. It would cause both ecoligic disaster and wreck havock among literally every person living in regions of the world with warm climate, taking over almost all continents. Gosh!
I'd LOVE if you did more what if JP scenarios. One about if the Spino encountered the hunters and gathers during the lost world would be a great one.
If the dpg article was to be acknowledged, the Spino wasn't even in embryo stage until 1999. That's 2 years after TLW.
They'd be dead if they ran into the Spino
@@paolopasaol9700 it's a what if, that doesn't matter
Oh boy, knowing how much he hates humans, it would be a killing spree...
Love your content, man. Because of you I can’t stop reading the novels and my life has had a change. Keep it up 🤙🏽
If The Hunters were successful, I would think the bit between Hammond and Malcolm from the start of the film would be more apropos.
Hammond: We're not going to make the same mistakes again!
Malcolm: No, you're...uh...you're gonna make all new ones...
Imagine people in the arena and suddenly a T. rex comes out and scares the hell out of them
*Everyone takes their phones out and Tweets,Snapchats, and tries to get selfies with it*
While the people are taking selfies the tyrannosaurus rex will be like "BE GONE THOTS" and the tyrannosaurus rex eats them
They have glass windows and the T. rex shatters the glass
First off, I enjoy all your videos on the JP canon. So, my thoughts on what would have happened at JP San Diego? Disaster a lot sooner than 10 years. These are creatures in which little to no knowledge is available on their care and behavior. They were captured on a island that was an incubator for the failed Jurassic Park. The team to care for them had left long ago, as well as the team to learn from them. Alan Grant was completely uninvolved, and the Paleontologist that was there (for argument sake I will assume he went uneaten in the waterfall cave) seemed to be more the giddy kid with his toys then the serious studious Grant. This serious lack of background and knowledge - under the direction of Ludlow - lends itself to disaster sooner than later. Ludlow would have rushed everything for the sake of a dollar, taking short cuts along the way, short cuts that would literally come back to bite him in more the backside! I would give escape and chaos about 6 months with good luck, 6 weeks without it. Just my opinion.
What did happened during the site b evacuation of 1994? How many people were killed during the evacuation of hurricane Clarissa??
Did u have to remind me of the baby in the book.
That litteraly gave me nightmares as a child.
I like that Michael didn’t hold back on the death of a baby in the book.
That Lost World theme...love it
Of all the creatures the hunters caught, the most problematic right away, in my opinion, would've been the Pachycephalosaurus because of their tendency to ram into things with their thick heads (just ask that one guy who got sent flying through his car during the roundup scene), Stegosaurus because of their spiked tails, Triceratops because of their horned heads, and Compsognathus because of their small size and carnivorous behavior. The baby T-Rex would eventually become a problem once it gets bigger, and the Parasaurolophus and Gallimimus, while probably not as troublesome as the others, could still be quite the hassle to deal with one way or another.
Jurassic Park San Diego would also fail big time. the theatre space looks cramped. Assuming Ludlow didn't release the dinosaurs at once, most would be stuck in cages most of the day. If the dinosaurs didn't break out due to limited space, animal rights activists would take action, possibly a repeat of the hunter camp sabotage.
oh yea. That would’ve definitely happen.
Love your channel man it's a great escape for me to come to when I need to get away from the world and your work is HIGHLY entertaining because I too am a HUGE fellow JP fan and I won't lie that every time I see anything JP related or announcements I still get the same chills I had as a kid seeing the commercials for JP and TLW JP before they came out in theaters. Keep it up Klayton this shit is AWESOME bro!!!
That intro animation was good keep it up👍👍👍
I watch the JP franchise many many times in just one month, its been like that for as long as i can remember. And watching your videos is what is causing those numbers to double😂😂 always putting me in the mood to rewatch em all!✊🏻🤘🏼
I hadn't really ever considered this what if, but, now that you've given me cause to do so, I agree with you that something would inevitably go wrong at some point--and as you pointed out, much more quickly and easily than with Jurassic World because the World was established over years of research whereas Ludlow's would have been set up under less studied conditions. I'm not sure how much damage would necessarily occur or if the herbivores would simply avoid human populations if they got out, but if it were the younger Rex after he'd grown, that would be a legal nightmare.
Then Jurassic park would happen yet again, this time more safe and secured
Never
Jurassic Park safe and secures*gasp*SACRILEDGE!! XD
Yeah for about 10 years
Then shortly after that, the island blows up
Then we could have skipped straight to Jurassic World 3
Love the new intro with the T-Rex coming out of the cargo hold
Great and awesome video Klayton Fioriti, I enjoyed today's content and I had fun watching this video, thank you for the entertainment and for the informations, keep up with the videos.
If you ever had the time to and if you wanted to will you ever make a series on JP Operation Genesis?
Possibly but idk how many people would enjoy it
Fair enough
I always imaged that the Jurassic Park San Diego project if successful would result in a mass dinosaur breakout and with an enraged herbivore stampede rampaging through the streets, with the animals ultimately being destroyed.
Great work would love to see you compare art styles of the dinosaurs of jurassic park to there realistic counterparts.
If I wasn't so distracted during the beginning of the video, that sound would have scared the shit out of me
Klayton, please just bring the initial roar at the beginning of the videos a bit lower, I keep forgetting and blast my ears with a roar every time. Always listen on headphones :) thanks love the videos and keep em coming.
I have a "what if" idea: What if Nedry hadn't gotten lost on Isla Nublar and successfully delivered the embryos? Would Biosyn have been able to create their own Jurassic Park and dinosaurs we haven't seen in the movies would be in the sequels like the Metriacanthosaur?
The animated opening with the bull rex bursting out of the cargo hold was a welcome surprise to the start of this video.
Hey Klayton, are you feeling alright? Good video by the way 👍☺
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This is one of the most awesomest comment!
faster then Udesky's neck?
Me too!!
Same
Not first, but still happy to watch another interesting theory. Good work Klayton!
If they had been successful, then Jurassic Park San Diego would have been a hit, and that InGen would not only bring the animals to the Mainland, but also recoup the company's assets, as well as finding a sanctuary to leave the creatures in peace, as long as they don't sell them as weapons.
Interesting to think of all the ramifications; storyline could still be made. What about the Hitchhiking Raptors ?
Weren't they responsible for the Lost Crew in JP2 ? Havoc would ensue on ships before reaching San Diego.
Remy HocAge That was the planned concept but ultimately was cut from the film,but I do think if raptors made it to the main land they could probably survive if not even thrive.
@@brandonshmandon1799 Wow I would like to see Raptors in the city !
Great video man!! Long live the Carno!!
Another awesome video. Any chance you can do one about how ludlow organized the harvesting expedition to isla sorna? Because it would have been a stretch with all the financial difficulties and lawsuits the company was facing, convincing the board of directors to fund such an operation, creating the hunting equipment and organizing the logistics of it could not have been easy. Or CHEAP for that matter. That is a video we would all love to see.
I've always wondered this question, Jurassic Park San Diego is usually forgotten, even though it could have worked.
Interesting discussion and cool buck trex intro🙂👍
Well, first off, no one would have been killed on Isla Sorna, I feel as though the park would have worked on the mainland... but just as in Jurassic world, visitors would start to get bored with what they had, leading to them going back to the island to get predatory dinosaurs in addition to the herbivores they captured previously, then some years down the line, same thing, and we get an Indominus monster being made.
... I still find it hard to believe people would get tired of seeing dinosaurs as quickly as Jurassic World suggests
Because Jurassic world is poorly written
Thorus Zwolf I mean it’s not that hard to believe the same thing has happen to most zoo animals. The first 2 times people see elephants their amazed but later on they just see them as just another animal. The same thing would happen with dinosaurs.
@@brandonshmandon1799 yeah,cynical adults,but not children
that is so intresting im actually watching the lost world rn
I could imagine the Ingen hunters gathering more dinosaur genre after Jurassic Park San Diego became a hit, especially regarding any sauropods. The only concern I'd have, as a mentioned in a previous video, is the amount of space the dinosaurs would have to roam around. Maybe if JP:SD became successful, they'd make more room for the animals to explore so they won't get stressed and possibly escape.
You dont go half way around the world to visit a zoo....You bring the zoo TOO THEM
And look where that got him.
Keep up the great work!!!
Actually if you think about it, Nick van Owen is one of the most important characters in the franchise. Without him, the three movies that came after wouldn't have existed, at least not the way we know them
Love dude keep it up
I wish they would make the first two films again as remakes but stick to the books word for word. The second book was awesome!!
Compys escaping and wrecking havoc is much more terrifying than any other dinosaur escape. I haven’t read the book but I can already imagine!
I have a real thing for the miniature of the Jurassic Amphitheater. What is it about miniatures??
That is true, but seeing a successful San Diego theme park would still be pretty cool. Like Jurassic World, it's gotta be some time before it fails and seeing how much people enjoy an open park would an alternative I'd also like to see
4:57 Another factor to why Jurassic World would've inevitably fell was Mt. Sibo.
Even if they never created the Indominus Rex, the volcano would eventually become active.
so, the resort was going to end regardless of whatever decisions were being made.
..if anything, the Indominus' attack spared everyone a far worse catastrophe.
its my opinion that if Ludlow hade managed to open the San Diego park it be a disaster. Human arrogance is a running theme in these movies, how we assume control over these powerfull animals. If he opened the park the dinosaurs would get loose and there not be a single T.rex causing havoc but a stampede of them.
I think Roland and Ajay would have been killed by the T-Rex pair during their ambush attempt
@Klaytion fioriti hey i was wondering about the explorers from the first movie. i always wondering if they were completely electritcal or did they ever say they could be driven Manually like taken off the track and drive like a normal car
I feel they would have problems with the larger animals. Looking at photos and models of the amphitheater. Its painfully obvious that the paddocks are to small for the giant bodied and giant herd animals. While there would be no problems at first. As the animals instinct to migrate and forage kicked in. The stegosaurus and triceratops would start to become easily agitated and aggressive. Add the fact that the Rex would need a paddock all to itself and you cut your living space for these large animals.
Another problem is going to be illness. Being in a metropolitan area. The animals would be subjected to modern pollutants that they are not adapted for. They would be rife with illnesses and require constant medical treatment. You could supplant this with rotating the stock with the dinosaurs on the islands. But then you run the risk outbreak and then you have DX virus situation.
The last major problem I see would be with the geological profile of California itself, specifically earthquakes. One good shake and you lose the power grid or a fence pylon falls over. Next thing you know is a 7 ton carnivore loose downtown. Or worse compys on the lose and breeding like sewer rats with a population explosion.
Just a thought
An overly complex and annoying thought
I know it's not the most exciting question to have but I wonder if Roland would have taken that job offer had Ajay not died. I'd love to think he would have but, probably not.
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And right into a glorious roar~
And into a WHAT IF??? Well then~~ and such an interesting subject matter to boot! I like~
Also in terms of what would happen to this enclosure, I'm sure that the animals would get aggressive or sick often given just how big they are. The place looks WAY to small to adequately fulfill needs of space for these animals, to the point that animal activists would riot after a time.
So unless expansion was in plan, the park is doomed to fail because these men "are not reminded of how very small they are."
Do what if they took the spino from jp3 and have it in Jurassic world
Could you do an ingens list or history of the pachy
I've done a History of but not an InGens List...just yet ;)
Nick Van Owen, the real villain of JP2.
I don't really have a problem with him releasing the captured dinosaurs. Now his removing the bullets from Tembo's cartridges however, that was an act of monumental stupidity that only a ALF level animal rights extremist is capable of.
@@Devin_Stromgren that is exactly my problem with him. Releasing the dinos bothers me much less- though if I was one if the hunters I might feel quite differently.
“Jurassic Park could happen” - Rachel Greene
The basic problem of JP remains the same, whether it's on Hammond's island near Costa Rica or a zoo in San Diego. "Life finds a way." Or as the novel's first page puts it, "You cannot recall a new form of life." It's inevitable that newly-created animals will eventually escape their quarantine and mix with the rest of nature.
Could u do a video of What if John Hammond built Jurassic Park not on Isla Nublar but Isla Sorna?
I need to say, that music you used in your intro animation sounds amazing! Is that available anywhere to listen to?
R there anymore JP books beside the 2
Danny Lauttamus unfortunately no
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You should do a video based on the fact that the Raptors and Compys’ are venomous in the novels, but not in the movies. As are the troodons in Jurassic Park: the game. That venom and it’s effects adds an extra terror to the dinosaurs and their attacks.
Heres a good question. What species were on Isla sorna and which ones did the hunter gather in jp 2
Will there be an updated dinosaur profile video on the Indoraptor and Indominus in the future?
Love ur vids
Can you do a video on what if IGN was successfully able to make a Refined Model of the Indoraptor!!!
PLEASE 👏🙏🙌 !!!!
can u make a video about the indorapter
Soon 🤠
I actually think it would go wrong quite quickly for 2 reasons. 1) they hardly knew anything about the animals (whole reason rex got is they gave it too much sedative and then too much adrenaline) Any random mess up could easily happen with the other dinos 2) it's mentioned that the San Diego exhibit was already almost completed by Hammond b4 shifting to Nublar. If the Nublar resort had so many issues, who is to say San Diego didn't (plus Ludlow was in a hurry to get it finished asap)
My simple reaction to this theory?
Ian's got that covered for Me! 😁
"Taking dinosaurs off the island is the worst idea in the long, sad history of bad ideas!!"
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ur a good animator
with all you said that woud actually happen.. but the question is would Malcolm, Sarah and tlw cast return? or just Malcolm Sarah and Nick? i beleieve that in the alternitive look would come from the novels as a pararell thing, eventually captering the dinosaurs being sent back to isla sorna having Ludlow actually listen to Malcolm .. that would make Isla Sorna instead of Isla Nublar the main scene.. think about it.. for the 4th movie Alan Grant would venture to Isla Sorna much like in the 3rd movie and maybe discover they are dying or breeding a lot.. like in the old script back in 2009 i think it was? where Grant and Malcolm go to Isla Sorna to report it all the mysterious things and how the dinosaurs got into Costa Ric by witnesses followed by some deaths by velociraptors on the mainland.. so you would had either Owen Grady on the team as a InGen member who was studying raptor bahevior during the whole movie thing they are sucessfully able to tranquilize the raptors in the jungles of Costa Rica; while team 2 is in sorna and they report to Owen the whole thing while yes ofcourse people had died in their team leaving Grant, Malcolm, Sarah and maybe a other InGen member survive making way for Jurassic world as the 4th leading to the 5th where Owen is the main character except this movie would still be called jurassic park or still be called jurassic world samething storyline but very different in a way, and kinda like in the 1st movie people evacuate because the volcano seems to be making signs of explosian the workers stay behind to sedate dinosaurs transport them to the mainland so you gotta like a real interesting story there ( would not be a fast paced movie)
they would been held back if at all the hybred dino would been a thing but i doubt it would have been but maybe it would been so.. you would see the whole thing of hybred vs. human much like the battle between owen and raptor hybred but its on the island Owen on the helicopter place surrounded by lava and he notices the mosasaur so he gets lucky by knowing what he is doing yet again since i-rex had a sibling he most likely fight eachother having owen escape and having blue and her siblings fight them too so Owen, Clair and other 2 escape same way as they die or 1 of them live so she won't be alone..
mosasaur chomps the last hybred giant helicopter comes in as Blue and other one if at all alive sedate her to get her off the island but by the boat as they transport her making way to the 6th movie we will all see
I think that Jurassic Park San Diego would actually work out rather well. I believe the problem with the Nublar facility was that Hammond wanted it to be somewhat natural for the animals. The San Diego facility was set up more like a zoo. It looks like all the paddocks were recessed into the ground all the way around. Unlike Nublar where the animals and people were on the same level.
It would be a good start for them, But in the long run errors are known to show and come's; That too if each of the holding pins that houses them are secured with heavy duty doors and locks, then the rate of them getting out are slim. The other trouble I see is that we as humans cant control them since they be going off natural nature like they did when they were around 65 Million years ago, and they will start to cause problems. Its always a Best Idea to A large mounts of security to help watch and be sure trouble and problems don't happen if they were successful.
I agree, the worst problem would be the compies. I guess they could be eradicated by using trained dogs or something, though.
I don't think the T-Rex was meant to be a part of the display... we should think what would have happened if Hammond's team had never made it to the island. Or better yet, if Nick van Owen had been the one eaten alive by the compies...
I think there woud've been a problem eventually like in Jurassic Park and Ian Malcolm would now have 'campfire stories' to which Peter Ludlow would be a witness.
My biggest problem with JP San Diego is that it just doesn't look like it is large enough to house the dinosaurs that they were bringing in. Even with all the extra paddocks around the amphitheater shown in the models and concept art, it feels like the enclosures are just too small for them.
I don't know if you're going to do another what if video but I have a interesting idea.
What if dr. Henry Wu created the indominus Rex during the first Jurassic Park? I know it's stupid but I think it would be interesting.
Hi Klayton, could you pls make a video on the lost World Jurassic park, where they encounter the male t-rex in the camp and pisses on the cruiser.
Have to point something out, it’s on the main land, aka no way the government isn’t going to have some response task force to take control of the park security failed, utilizing high caliber weapons, high strength tranq darts, armored vehicles, and definitely training on how to react depending on the dinosaur, one good thing that park was going to have or more like not have, is raptors, think of it yes a T. rex is huge and definitely a threat, but a threat you physically can hind from easily like going in a building, so if that escapes just don’t be in the open, raptors however are a whole different story, go in a building, it can follow due to being small enough, plus harder to spot due to being stealthy, smart, and smaller, now with that does come disadvantages, being smaller they’re weaker and at least you can kinda sorta do something, and not as high caliber of a weapon is needed to deal with them, so I think if they kept the park to the animals discussed, yeah I think the park will run fine for years, a lot of factors play into why it would, better and more available resources, more security, more and better protocol, and the fact that even if weather went extreme they would have better prep to move the dinosaurs and do more to prevent something bad, heck I honestly think, especially without raptors, their would be little to no incidents past even the events of the 3rd film which in these events, with Peter alive to run Ingen and a fully running park that likely won’t have many issues, probably things like the Spinosaurus wouldn’t have been made which in turn likely means Jurassic world probably wouldn’t happen unless Peter decided to do it since with a fully running park he’d be able to amount resources to build another which he’d likely do, so literally could’ve resulted in genuine safe dinosaur parks in multiple areas with very few incidents altogether that would be in operation past possibly even current canon timeline
I've had an idea for a fanfiction for some time about this idea. The idea is that the park is successful and under control but they can't breed dinos in the United States due to some law. InGen is basically kicked out of Costa Rica, so they go where they already have property: Kenya, as mentioned by Hammond in the first movie. So InGen makes dinos in Kenya, but they get out, and a parasaurolophus ends up on Roland's ranch somehow. Roland calls Ludlow and says "Elvis is in my back yard. Are you going to fix this or do I have to?". The dinos cause a large amount of damage to the savanna ecosystem, food competition with the natural animal population and such. The story ends up with Roland teaming up with Gerry and Sarah Harding and Van Owen to round up the dinos and convince the Kenyan government to kick InGen out.
In the end Ian Malcolm will always be right.
SolidViperSnake life finds a way 🦖🦖🦕🦕
The security of the san Diego zoo was top notch actually
Good idea to explore.
How many intros do you have Klayton? 🦖🦖🦕🦕
I really love the compsagnuthus design from the lost world.
That's the last time I keep you in charge.
That into...very nice.
I think they should bring Dodgson back in the last movie. He does have an opening if they made it where he was at the auction. He could be the main villain in the third Jurassic World Series.
1:16, "Now you're John Hammond"
Hey Klayton, why do you think that Ludlow planned to include only herbivores (apart from the Compys) in San Diego? The maps I've seen include a pen for a T-Rex.
jurassic-pedia.com/jurassic-park-san-diego-map/
jurassicpark.fandom.com/wiki/Jurassic_Park:_San_Diego
The dinosaur list in the wiki also includes Brachiosaurus which I think Ludlow didn't plan to bring back (shouldn't they have been killed because they were economically unpopular?), so that list seems to refer to Hammond's original plans. The map beside it, however, does not include any sauropods and seems to refer to Ludlow's plans.
I neither see any film evidence for the Rex being a part of the plan nor any evidence against it. But he seemed to be a greedy and ruthless guy and I think he would have used it as an argument for the safety of the San Diego park if it was planned to include only herbivores apart from the Compys. Aside from that, there's Roland Tembo's line when he requests to hunt "one of the tyrannosaurs, a male, a buck ONLY" - could this be a hint to Ludlow wanting to keep one alive for the park in San Diego?
Thank you so much for your awesome content, I really enjoy it!
The compies alone freak me out. I mean, those things would be small enough to sneak here and there, reproduce like hell, and eventually spread enough to... get here and eat me in my backyard?!
Compis will rule the 🌎
What ever happened to Dodson in the cinematic world?
2:49 How could the dinosaurs escape from the coliseum? it's made of stone and the outside paddocks have steel bars and are down low like in real zoos I think this park is the safest one I really couldn't see anything escaping there
This park and Jurassic worlds big issue was management all mainly caring about what will bring the most income while ignoring the negatives it has on the animals