It's sad isn't it? Some people never grow out of this school kid mentality of thinking life is a popularity contest. They will spend and spend what they don't have, go into ridiculous amounts of debt, and attempt to gain status symbols that mean absolutely nothing.
The problem is not the college. The problem is the society and the corporations and companies making every job require a Bachelors Degree. We have tons of very skilled people, ready to work that don't have a college degree. As a computer programmer, I know for a fact, everything I do right now could have been learned from any simple certification program requiring maybe 2 years, and probably much better than a bachelors knowledge base too.
Sometimes. If it trains you in something valuable. For instance, an A+ certification is nigh on worthless, but a trade school will charge you a years tuition to take the classes quite happily.
Hopefully the trades don't get oversaturated with too many trade school students. I go to a trade school and the classes are really small for the most part except for the more popular disiplines (i.e. automotive, electrician, hvac). Although I don't see this happening anytime soon, I hope it never happens.
+Jean-Eider Pierre-Louis if i had a big dick i would just flop it out when the the interview gets hairy. Since i dont, i just start sweating and stumbling on my sentences like a little school girl.
I'm pretty sure it won't since the emphasis of college still abounds. At the same time however, The stigma of Trade School is still emerging which is a shame. Trade School is a good alternative for anyone if they choose not to go or afford college. I plan on going to the Trades myself.
Spent 20 years programming with no degree. Just finished my undergrad Nuclear Engineering, and going for a masters. I don't think it will be worthless - at the least I have learned a LOT about a subject I was interested in.
The difference is, everyone won't go to school for what you learned, and everyone can't afford to just go to school to learn a LOT about a subject they were interest in. In the least, it would have to make sure they are able to put food on the table. Congrats to you.
Engineering is some of the best degrees you can get, but one of the downfalls is that some will not consider to take a job in a foreign market or overseas, which can make a big difference in their careers. Most people do not want to leave the comfort of familiar surroundings. leave the comfort zone and good things will happen.
Engineering is actually one of the best majors. I only recommend college if you plan on majoring in the STEM Fields. Any subject that doesn't fall into that category is a waste of time and money.
1 it says in the title 'reprise', there was a first part to this video. 2 why is it that you have to go to college to learn engineering? why cant you learn the maths and all that at home, then learn he rest as an apprentice?
I'm glad I genuinely love Accounting. I fell in love with it in high school, and even more after some college classes. :) In 1 year I'll get my 2 year degree. Hurray!
@SapphireDiamond19 u mind pointing out where anyone (myself or the guy that was talking in this video) said anything at all about someone with a math/science degree being 'better' than someone with a art/environmental science degree?
I studied film and have a Bachelors in Film and Masters in Digital Imaging. It can very well be a worthless degree if you just try the conventional route of trying to find a regular job in the industry. To be successful in any creative field, I strongly recommend carving your own path and figuring out how to be an entrepreneur. I did, and although life is hard, it's very satisfying. Just always be sure that you've got basic necessities covered: paying the rent, putting food on the table, etc.
As a Math major, Baylor forces us to take 2 years of a language and its the biggest pain. The professors expect you to live and breathe the language and act like my advanced math classes are not as important.
I would go to a community college or find another IT school around your area, usually those schools they advertise on tv are scams and i hear ITT tech is very expensive and isnt accredited either
This is why college is meant for you to diversify your points of opportunities. I'm in my 3rd year of studying a double major in Economics & Business Management. In my spare time, I learned & practice investing in financial markets; I'm started & am advancing in Taekwondo; and I'm doing some dance instructing. So, do different things in college that you can fall back on if your degree fails to land you a job.
Abel Gaiya 1 all those things you mentioned, can be done on your own simply by picking up a book on the subject much less taking a specific course 2 *diversify your points of opportunities* is all well and nice. Going into debt x thousands to hundreds of thousands for it isn't.
I understand your sentiment against schooling, but I'm from a different country (Nigeria) where we there's no education debt crisis, and we follow the traditional system whereby your parents pay for your education, and if they don't have the money to do so, they set up a business for you to run. So formal education (with all its private benefits such as socialization) still has a lot of value to me and people of my country. Therefore, within the context of my country, formal education is a better option for me.
i don't remember you or any 'cross words' but of you want to re upload this, you migh want to ask aaron clarey, it's his videos that i simply fused together into one vid
It better to learn IT in community college and earn a certification less then 2 years without a 4 year degree utter garbage. If you want to learn programming, you can learn on the internet with motivation or community college, not university. University makes you take worthless exam that doesn’t help you in the real world and they teach programming like 10 years ago. They don’t really teach what new programming tools or engine that today’s world are using.
What do you think about STEM master's degrees, mainly those for people that picked a worthless degree in the past? See for me, I got a worthless humanities degree because I was a lazy fuck back in uni. But, I'm thinking of doing a 1.5 year (or a 2 year) masters degree in Accounting, or professional accounting as you may call it - these programs do not require a bachelors in accounting to be admitted to the program and all the courses act as a way to meet requirements for the CPA exams. Technically, it would be considered expensive, but I can afford the cost, and I do genuinely want to change fields since my previous degree isn't doing me squat (luckily I'm employed right now, but its not a very glamorous position and I'm mostly working in temp positions right now).
@JimBowie1133 problem is, they still aren't going to hire the staff... in fact, va onpy cover a third of psychiatric need patients and they still aren't hiring more...
i feel like a failure =( knew i should've gone to trade school. i was even thinking ota(occupationa therapy assistant) but noooooooo my high school counselor said that i'm "too smart for that". man! what a mistake! i don't wanna go to med school anymore, but do i do with this neuroscience major?? is it too late to reconsider ota??
Diaming787 Physics is worth it, but you will need a Masters or PhD to really do anything. It is not easy, and the chances is you could fail, and many people do not belong in majoring in it. Also, you have to go to a credible college/University, and you will have to basically do a lot of ass kissing to get anywhere. Going the physics path will cost you a lot. The success of physicist a is based on the discoveries made, what you publish, how much it is referenced, and how credible it is, and it is not like what is portrayed on TV, it can be very boring. Also, there will be very complex math, so if you do not like math, then forget it. Durning your degree, you will be spending a lot of time getting it, and even after that point it will still require a lot of work.
I don't plan to go to college also I'm 17 YO.. would like you to pm me and convo with me ... I have a few ideas but I need insights into this ideas that aren't mine
For those wanting to "do college" differently, you should check out the EBook "College out of the Box"! (and the FB page) My son was able to do college and high school together with NO student debt (a total of only about $3,000) from an accredited long distance college. Never had to step foot on a campus, NO debt, no wasted time! It works for adults wanting to get their degree, high school students who want to earn a few credits to transfer in to their choice school or the way my son did it! For sure, college is a HUGE business- don't let your kids start off life in debt or without the needed skills!
what about an associates in arts and then get a bachelors degree in criminal justice? 20 yr old college student here. im almost done wit my associates.
If I'm double-majoring in Economics and computer science, would you say that I'm good for life? Let's assume that I network well, have a few good internships under my belt, and get a solid GPA. By the way, my parents were nothing like the "spineless parents" you described. Like you, I'm absolutely apalled by some kids who ay $55k+/yr to major in theater/drama/art/etc.
After keenly listening to your video(which is really superb!!!).I think you will get interested after googling these terms:- university of florida eliminates computer science department increases athletic budgets
i feel better =) do people let go as time passes? my parents are not happy with me not going to med school. it was their dream. havent heard from them in a year. =/ i mean.....they'll come around right??
Here's the problem. There is too much of a demand on wanting a job, and not enough of supply on creating jobs. People going to college and wanting a job when they get out should be learning how to create jobs.
@jusblaze99 I studied physics and I can tell you that the companies are CRYING for people with advanced (and I mean advanced) degrees in physics. It seems so many people want to be engineers, but lack the understanding that engineering and physics are on complete opposite sides of the spectrum.
I agree with him on most parts. I have a Masters in polymer chemistry and I have a good job but I know tons of people without S.T.E.M degrees and they are really struggling. Not to say you can't make any money in other fields but it can be really competitive and difficult.
@JimBowie1133 so 'psychologists' and 'social work/sociology' are going to be more indeamnd and pay more than a computer engineer, chemical engineer, rocket scientist, i t, etc.? didnt think so. and those jobs are going to be the first to go when ever shit gets bad. cause if the world doesnt have them, it still goes on. if the world doesnt have the engineers and such i listed. we are back to the before the stone age.
Anything in a STEM field! Is always going to be in demand! So few young people in America go into these fields today. American companies kept asking the government to up the H-1B visas. This allows foreign worker to come here and work in these fields, because not enough American kids are going to school to work in these fields and some many jobs go unfilled. May be something to think about. If you are thinking about college.
Ok so, if it's not about what you want to do but it's about what society wants, and you're disgusted/disinterested in the things society wants (consumer mania, obsession with materialism, etc) then what do you do?
I'd like to add that the original purpose of higher education wasn't necessarily to get a job. It was to learn a subject that interests the student. The first students usually were people whose parents had the means to support them while they took time out and studied a subject of interest. It wasn't for the added prospects of getting a job. Added job prospects were given to particular students who studied subjects for positions that required that level of education.
18:09 You're assuming that people will just work for the maximum amount of money that they can get but that's not true. Some people want to work in what that they actually care about instead of sitting in front of a computer all day. Maybe some people want to be a teacher even if they do make less money because they actually care about that. But whatever, this just motivates me to work harder.
As a person who has spent 20 years of my life in a high tech career I can tell you that doing something you hate for the money can ruin your life. I am now about to complete a Masters in mental health counseling and i am finnaly happy. You cannot be happy or successful doing something you hate!!!!!!!!!!!!!
orientals is the correct term. the fact is that if you look on a map if its not europe its asia. making all those people asian. this means that russians are asian, mid eastern, indian and polynesian too. if you want to target the (for lack of a better term) 'people with the eyes' you say oriental. but that's not how general public sees it even though its actually correct
@SapphireDiamond19 why dont you go ak the guy that made the video? im sure you read the start of the video where i said i didnt make this video, i simply uploaded it. as far as 'Not everyone was made to be a math major or science because some people hate that stufff and....' again, according to the video, its not what you like to do, its what society wants you to do. as far as the ppl u mentioned having jobs, how about the ones that dont have jobs much less have jobs not in their field
someone else hasto get 'horse whipped' for 'stealing' a minute of your life that you willfully chose to waste? and who gets hurt for the 8 seconds it took you to type this foolishness you typed, again under your own free will?
How could I be so stupid? You have given me a suggestion that my family has been giving me and that was I should have majored in music since I love music so much. But, no. I decided to major in History all because I'm also a History buff and I could have been a professional pianist. That is if I do well enough on the spiritual, classical, and jazz songs that I hear on the radio. I regret this. Now, I'm trying to find a job that's worth while and may have to go out of my field to get one.
Around 5-6 years ago I was thinking of going for a bachelors degree in something like history because I thought I was too stupid to learn Calculus. This video was probably the video that convinced me to get an engineering degree. Thanks for uploading this.... and no engineering isn't as boring as liberal arts folks like to claim (sour grapes).
oh then forgive me, but i still disagree with the title. You could become an Engineer by reading the right books and taking the right test/certifications but it is time consuming and complicated to take all that on your own I should know. Look at it this way, would you prefer a Civil Engineer form a well credited College/University to build a bridge or a self educated one? *They both have the same work experience. A degree in a highly credited university helps you get a job faster...
Actually, this video gives a good thought for food. All the guy says is true. You might not like his style, but I am telling you - he is on the spot 100%. I have my useless "business" degree and now I am getting second degree in computer science. I wish I could see this video 8 years ago.
honestly i wouldn't be able to tell you. im not the one talking in the video. but the film industry has its own corruption. unless youre doing independent filming i dont know. but thats just me.
Just paused at 16:40 , I can code games for the Xbox in XNA , with a fine Object Orientated style to it , leaving Uni to code instead of do Games Design Course. It's very important that I realized that I don't need to graduate to benefit myself. We should all be encouraged to go after our own custom paths of learning - Only then can we match our skills , our passions and the demand in a dream ballance... and not be stuck in any system that dictates with speculatons...
I am going for mechanical engineering because I suck at English and I hate art. Lol. However I am going to get my associates at my local community college then go to a university. Its cheaper and better that way.
***** this will be the state of things for a while. Robots will take over most jobs in the future. Engineering will be one of the last jobs before we give it to robots.
***** Yeah but the amount of papers you have to write is less in engineering and most science fields than civilization, law, economics, and so forth. Granted, I still need to crap out a 2-5 page lab report every once in a while. Still not as bad as a 10 page creative writing essay.
I am a psycholigist with a 6 figure income. The demand for mental health services is higher than an xbox 360 or an ipod because its something that over half the country is in need of. I also worked in the computer field and it is over saturated.
Tennisumitsuma, thanx for uploading this video. It is really helpfull. : ) Do you think speech pathology and audiology are useless majors? And nursing?
I have a multimedia degree from ITT. It took them 2 years to tell me that I had to move out of state to get a job with it. They kept trying to force UPS on all the students after they graduated, but that was a obvious dead end. I still talk to a lot of my old classmates, they too can't get jobs with it. They recently took out the multimedia class and introduced new classes that have nothing to do with computers really.
I agree with Maximumwangchung with the spell checking but I also believe in typos and seeing that the "i" key is next to the "o" key I can see that happening, in other words I will give you the benefit of the doubt. Now about the computer field...Currently it is not over saturated. There is a high demand for people with degrees in Computer Science and Computer Engineering. These degrees are no piece of cake, about 50% change concentration or dropout after taking the basic programming course.
Just to note. I have red the book "Rich father, poor father". This book has very similarites (not same) with what you describe. The writer notes, that school system does not prepare the children for real world, and give two different aspects form friend's father and his fathers. Also, good point "Producer vs. Parasite". So people, it your descision what do you want to be.
@NothingAtAllXD as is said in the video. 'first you find a job that's gonna pay', 'make sure its something that can put food on the table'. you may 'LOVE and ADORE' women's studies, but that wont pay any bills much less make you live good. i guarantee you, you wont be happy and energetic if you go to work doing what you love, but are homeless on the street starving cause the job doesn't pay anything.
>certificate from technical school? Indeed. If you have the talent for whatever trade you choose then go for it. As a diesel mechanic I can work nearly anywhere. I used to brag to my friends that even if we had another great depression, I'd still be working. So far so good.
answer to 2. You need to study an accredited (in US ABET, in UK Engineering council) degree if you want to be an Engineer and not a Technician - there is quite a difference between these roles and titles. Agreed more people should consider apprenticeships, but this is only really appropriate if you actually want to enter given field of work. In aviation we need Scientists and Engineers, but there is also a large business and logistics support function which is often over-looked.
ur right man. i just spoke to a community college who offers the program. i'm going for it! i'm all fired up! too bad four years were blown. could've done this a while ago. ur the man or woman tenns!
First off let me tell you how much I love this video. A few people that I know have been telling me this however, I did not want to believe them. But my question now is I am considering majoring in Computer Engineering, Eletrical Engineering, or Accounting. I know as you stated they are all solid but which one do you think is better of the three? Thank You
the problem is, yes with a math science or engineering degree you are damn near guaranteed employment. the problem is these fields are not for people who struggled with algebra in high school. you cant pick a career by what it pays, you have to consider your own talents. being an engineer is only for a very small percentage of the population.
The rest of the public who is interested in job prospects should not need a degree, but they are bounded to by the employers who are also members of the public that believe their open positions should require a degree, but have not specified one. This creates a situation where all members of the public believe a degree is necessary for any position, regardless of the subject matter. This undermines the purpose of a degree, which is to learn the subject, not get a job.
The problems are embedded in the public's perception of what is required for a job, with the public being members of the employers and members of the prospective employees. For the people who are interested in job prospects, the resounding solution is not always college unless the subject of interest is law, medicine, engineering, or one of their derivatives.
marketing has never influenced a decision ive made to buy anything. im the most anti-name brand person on the planet. custom self built computer, no name brand clothes (that i make look as if they're designer), and generic xyz store brand unless name brand is unavoidable. when i get computer parts, its specs first then looks second that get me to buy
With the increased focus on these added job prospects that some students were given after they were trained for a particular subject such as law, medicine, and engineering, the public started to believe an education is specifically for a job. This is not true. An education is to learn a subject. No degree is worthless, there just appears to be a misunderstanding of how the value of the degree is measured. Also, many positions have begun requiring degrees when the subject matter is not applicable
i have 3 friends who major in psychology 2 unemployed for several years and 1 is working 3 jobs making minimum wage my child isn't going to school or college there's a such thing as a library internet and book stores i'll teach myself and he can start working and be considered an adult when i think he's ready not when he graduates from high-school which is extended 6th grade education a 6th grader can work a cash register but for some reason you need a high-school diploma to word at McDonalds
He'll yes I was scared I was making a huge mistake with my college. The only one is a four year college but I need it to prepare for more challenging work. I just finished high school and am about to attend a four year college for a degree in chemistry and then move on to get a masters in materials engineering or chemical engineering
kinda, thats if you plan on looking for work in law enforcement which I highly doubt theyre looking for nowadays, but again I have books on criminology and law codes that my neighbor threw away, I can learn criminal justice and child delinquency on my own, its the tact training that counts in the academy. You don't necessarily need a degree to be a police officer.
I disagree with the title. the video does not state that college is a fraud. It only mentions that there are lots of degrees that are worthless and focuses on bringing awareness of such. But he specifies that degrees such as Engineering are degrees worth studying/taking in college. Basically I agree with the video but the title is wrong. You need a degree to be an Engineer thus you need to go to college for that, but there are also "trap" degrees which you need to avoid.
You can almost a kin it too a musician, talent is the overwhelming factor there. I'm getting an electricians degree with a focus in renewable energy and hope to work in the private sector, but I have a backup plan to run my dad's tree nursery if things fall through with that. I know I won't make much money in my life, but I am fortunate I will never be unemployed or without a place to live.
It's sad isn't it? Some people never grow out of this school kid mentality of thinking life is a popularity contest. They will spend and spend what they don't have, go into ridiculous amounts of debt, and attempt to gain status symbols that mean absolutely nothing.
The problem is not the college. The problem is the society and the corporations and companies making every job require a Bachelors Degree. We have tons of very skilled people, ready to work that don't have a college degree. As a computer programmer, I know for a fact, everything I do right now could have been learned from any simple certification program requiring maybe 2 years, and probably much better than a bachelors knowledge base too.
Shoutout to Aaron Clarey (Economics with Aaron)! This video saved my life by helping me choose a trade.
trade schools are good ?
yup! as long as it's in someting of consequence, which most trade schools usually are
Thank you!
Sometimes. If it trains you in something valuable.
For instance, an A+ certification is nigh on worthless, but a trade school will charge you a years tuition to take the classes quite happily.
Thanks ..and tell me about it student loans are no joke
Trade school is the way to go.
Hopefully the trades don't get oversaturated with too many trade school students. I go to a trade school and the classes are really small for the most part except for the more popular disiplines (i.e. automotive, electrician, hvac). Although I don't see this happening anytime soon, I hope it never happens.
+Jean-Eider Pierre-Louis if i had a big dick i would just flop it out when the the interview gets hairy. Since i dont, i just start sweating and stumbling on my sentences like a little school girl.
I'm pretty sure it won't since the emphasis of college still abounds. At the same time however, The stigma of Trade School is still emerging which is a shame. Trade School is a good alternative for anyone if they choose not to go or afford college. I plan on going to the Trades myself.
You know what's funny is that many programming jobs are being shipped overseas as of late...
Yes, that is true. Those jobs are vanishing all the time.
True. Programming jobs are on the decline now. Thankfully, many other jobs like Developmental jobs are fine.
@king78802
what you mean 'didnt really'
What's gonna be in demand 10 years from now?
anything that has to to with technology
A good wife. One with a degree in Robotics.
Cybersecurity. It's hot now and will be in even more demand than healthcare. Big banks and corporations care a lot about their money.
Nothing. Eeverything will go towards automation.
Spent 20 years programming with no degree.
Just finished my undergrad Nuclear Engineering, and going for a masters. I don't think it will be worthless - at the least I have learned a LOT about a subject I was interested in.
The difference is, everyone won't go to school for what you learned, and everyone can't afford to just go to school to learn a LOT about a subject they were interest in. In the least, it would have to make sure they are able to put food on the table. Congrats to you.
Engineering is some of the best degrees you can get, but one of the downfalls is that some will not consider to take a job in a foreign market or overseas, which can make a big difference in their careers. Most people do not want to leave the comfort of familiar surroundings. leave the comfort zone and good things will happen.
In your case, yes a college degree may be a big deal. But yes, there r many degrees that you wont go to far with them.
Engineering is actually one of the best majors. I only recommend college if you plan on majoring in the STEM Fields. Any subject that doesn't fall into that category is a waste of time and money.
seen it. it was the one by inflation.us right?
Whatever you do, don’t major in economics.
1 it says in the title 'reprise', there was a first part to this video.
2 why is it that you have to go to college to learn engineering? why cant you learn the maths and all that at home, then learn he rest as an apprentice?
I'm glad I genuinely love Accounting. I fell in love with it in high school, and even more after some college classes. :)
In 1 year I'll get my 2 year degree. Hurray!
+nicetoeveryone dontpushit
Good for you!
Accounting isn't a bad major, it's actually one of the good ones.
@SapphireDiamond19
u mind pointing out where anyone (myself or the guy that was talking in this video) said anything at all about someone with a math/science degree being 'better' than someone with a art/environmental science degree?
I studied film and have a Bachelors in Film and Masters in Digital Imaging. It can very well be a worthless degree if you just try the conventional route of trying to find a regular job in the industry. To be successful in any creative field, I strongly recommend carving your own path and figuring out how to be an entrepreneur. I did, and although life is hard, it's very satisfying. Just always be sure that you've got basic necessities covered: paying the rent, putting food on the table, etc.
As a Math major, Baylor forces us to take 2 years of a language and its the biggest pain. The professors expect you to live and breathe the language and act like my advanced math classes are not as important.
I would go to a community college or find another IT school around your area, usually those schools they advertise on tv are scams and i hear ITT tech is very expensive and isnt accredited either
all this applies to me considering i shop online, how?
This is why college is meant for you to diversify your points of opportunities. I'm in my 3rd year of studying a double major in Economics & Business Management. In my spare time, I learned & practice investing in financial markets; I'm started & am advancing in Taekwondo; and I'm doing some dance instructing. So, do different things in college that you can fall back on if your degree fails to land you a job.
Abel Gaiya 1 all those things you mentioned, can be done on your own simply by
picking up a book on the subject much less taking a specific course 2 *diversify your points of opportunities* is all well and nice. Going
into debt x thousands to hundreds of thousands for it isn't.
I understand your sentiment against schooling, but I'm from a different country (Nigeria) where we there's no education debt crisis, and we follow the traditional system whereby your parents pay for your education, and if they don't have the money to do so, they set up a business for you to run. So formal education (with all its private benefits such as socialization) still has a lot of value to me and people of my country. Therefore, within the context of my country, formal education is a better option for me.
@TheLifeBidder True, if he lived in America, he'd be saying otherwise.
i don't remember you or any 'cross words' but of you want to re upload this, you migh want to ask aaron clarey, it's his videos that i simply fused together into one vid
It better to learn IT in community college and earn a certification less then 2 years without a 4 year degree utter garbage. If you want to learn programming, you can learn on the internet with motivation or community college, not university. University makes you take worthless exam that doesn’t help you in the real world and they teach programming like 10 years ago. They don’t really teach what new programming tools or engine that today’s world are using.
@ScarletFierce
i dont know, how does the job market look? and does it pass the tests in this vid?
What do you think about STEM master's degrees, mainly those for people that picked a worthless degree in the past?
See for me, I got a worthless humanities degree because I was a lazy fuck back in uni. But, I'm thinking of doing a 1.5 year (or a 2 year) masters degree in Accounting, or professional accounting as you may call it - these programs do not require a bachelors in accounting to be admitted to the program and all the courses act as a way to meet requirements for the CPA exams. Technically, it would be considered expensive, but I can afford the cost, and I do genuinely want to change fields since my previous degree isn't doing me squat (luckily I'm employed right now, but its not a very glamorous position and I'm mostly working in temp positions right now).
@bondthewall
meh....cant bother taking it down and messin with it. ill just put a warning
@Sumwun23
im not the guy talkin. i found the vids and strung them together
@JimBowie1133 problem is, they still aren't going to hire the staff... in fact, va onpy cover a third of psychiatric need patients and they still aren't hiring more...
bottled isnt required. water is required and can (and is) here without being bottled
'how many products suck but make the most?'
what?!
i feel like a failure =(
knew i should've gone to trade school. i was even thinking ota(occupationa therapy assistant) but noooooooo my high school counselor said that i'm "too smart for that". man! what a mistake! i don't wanna go to med school anymore, but do i do with this neuroscience major?? is it too late to reconsider ota??
Is physics ok?! I know its math but he didn't mentioned in the video.
Diaming787 Physics is worth it, but you will need a Masters or PhD to really do anything. It is not easy, and the chances is you could fail, and many people do not belong in majoring in it. Also, you have to go to a credible college/University, and you will have to basically do a lot of ass kissing to get anywhere. Going the physics path will cost you a lot.
The success of physicist a is based on the discoveries made, what you publish, how much it is referenced, and how credible it is, and it is not like what is portrayed on TV, it can be very boring. Also, there will be very complex math, so if you do not like math, then forget it. Durning your degree, you will be spending a lot of time getting it, and even after that point it will still require a lot of work.
Diaming787 no way
physics is ok
I don't plan to go to college also I'm 17 YO.. would like you to pm me and convo with me ... I have a few ideas but I need insights into this ideas that aren't mine
Why was there just a slideshow of Aaron Clarey in the beginning
david plotnik
0:15 explains it.
Clarey did that himself. So you should ask him.
I'm wondering if he took this down from his own channel because a recent girlfriend didn't like seeing pics of him with his ex here in the beginning.
Can a person major in computer engineering and minor in computer science
I am going for comp sci and we take comp en classes aswell your school might have you do a bit of both.
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+Renee LoDolce im 22 never had a job droped out i know i'm complete loser what do you recommend i do
I just started Machine Engineering!
what about an associates in arts and then get a bachelors degree in criminal justice? 20 yr old college student here. im almost done wit my associates.
@NothingAtAllXD
i did read the other comment.
If I'm double-majoring in Economics and computer science, would you say that I'm good for life? Let's assume that I network well, have a few good internships under my belt, and get a solid GPA.
By the way, my parents were nothing like the "spineless parents" you described. Like you, I'm absolutely apalled by some kids who ay $55k+/yr to major in theater/drama/art/etc.
After keenly listening to your video(which is really superb!!!).I think you will get interested after googling these terms:-
university of florida eliminates computer science department increases athletic budgets
i feel better =)
do people let go as time passes? my parents are not happy with me not going to med school. it was their dream. havent heard from them in a year. =/
i mean.....they'll come around right??
is 22 old?
maybe not
Here's the problem. There is too much of a demand on wanting a job, and not enough of supply on creating jobs. People going to college and wanting a job when they get out should be learning how to create jobs.
@jusblaze99
I studied physics and I can tell you that the companies are CRYING for people with advanced (and I mean advanced) degrees in physics. It seems so many people want to be engineers, but lack the understanding that engineering and physics are on complete opposite sides of the spectrum.
I agree with him on most parts. I have a Masters in polymer chemistry and I have a good job but I know tons of people without S.T.E.M degrees and they are really struggling. Not to say you can't make any money in other fields but it can be really competitive and difficult.
@JimBowie1133
so 'psychologists' and 'social work/sociology' are going to be more indeamnd and pay more than a computer engineer, chemical engineer, rocket scientist, i t, etc.?
didnt think so. and those jobs are going to be the first to go when ever shit gets bad. cause if the world doesnt have them, it still goes on. if the world doesnt have the engineers and such i listed. we are back to the before the stone age.
Now that everyone is wanting to major in some type of engineering, is it still gonna be in demand in the future?
Anything in a STEM field! Is always going to be in demand!
So few young people in America go into these fields today. American companies kept asking the government to up the H-1B visas.
This allows foreign worker to come here and work in these fields, because not enough American kids are going to school to work in these fields and some many jobs go unfilled.
May be something to think about.
If you are thinking about college.
@mdp5002221
whats gis
havent taken three of the pre-reqs for ot
how many of your colleagues earns, like your salary?
what country are you from
Ok so, if it's not about what you want to do but it's about what society wants, and you're disgusted/disinterested in the things society wants (consumer mania, obsession with materialism, etc) then what do you do?
I'd like to add that the original purpose of higher education wasn't necessarily to get a job. It was to learn a subject that interests the student. The first students usually were people whose parents had the means to support them while they took time out and studied a subject of interest. It wasn't for the added prospects of getting a job. Added job prospects were given to particular students who studied subjects for positions that required that level of education.
I'm halfway through a chemistry and sports science 50:50 degree, what do I do??
18:09 You're assuming that people will just work for the maximum amount of money that they can get but that's not true. Some people want to work in what that they actually care about instead of sitting in front of a computer all day. Maybe some people want to be a teacher even if they do make less money because they actually care about that. But whatever, this just motivates me to work harder.
As a person who has spent 20 years of my life in a high tech career I can tell you that doing something you hate for the money can ruin your life. I am now about to complete a Masters in mental health counseling and i am finnaly happy. You cannot be happy or successful doing something you hate!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thanks for the message!
orientals is the correct term. the fact is that if you look on a map if its not europe its asia. making all those people asian. this means that russians are asian, mid eastern, indian and polynesian too. if you want to target the (for lack of a better term) 'people with the eyes' you say oriental. but that's not how general public sees it even though its actually correct
what about a master in OT now that you graduated
@SapphireDiamond19
why dont you go ak the guy that made the video? im sure you read the start of the video where i said i didnt make this video, i simply uploaded it.
as far as 'Not everyone was made to be a math major or science because some people hate that stufff and....' again, according to the video, its not what you like to do, its what society wants you to do.
as far as the ppl u mentioned having jobs, how about the ones that dont have jobs much less have jobs not in their field
someone else hasto get 'horse whipped' for 'stealing' a minute of your life that you willfully chose to waste? and who gets hurt for the 8 seconds it took you to type this foolishness you typed, again under your own free will?
How could I be so stupid? You have given me a suggestion that my family has been giving me and that was I should have majored in music since I love music so much. But, no. I decided to major in History all because I'm also a History buff and I could have been a professional pianist. That is if I do well enough on the spiritual, classical, and jazz songs that I hear on the radio. I regret this. Now, I'm trying to find a job that's worth while and may have to go out of my field to get one.
Around 5-6 years ago I was thinking of going for a bachelors degree in something like history because I thought I was too stupid to learn Calculus. This video was probably the video that convinced me to get an engineering degree. Thanks for uploading this.... and no engineering isn't as boring as liberal arts folks like to claim (sour grapes).
oh then forgive me, but i still disagree with the title. You could become an Engineer by reading the right books and taking the right test/certifications but it is time consuming and complicated to take all that on your own I should know. Look at it this way, would you prefer a Civil Engineer form a well credited College/University to build a bridge or a self educated one? *They both have the same work experience. A degree in a highly credited university helps you get a job faster...
Actually, this video gives a good thought for food. All the guy says is true. You might not like his style, but I am telling you - he is on the spot 100%. I have my useless "business" degree and now I am getting second degree in computer science. I wish I could see this video 8 years ago.
honestly i wouldn't be able to tell you. im not the one talking in the video. but the film industry has its own corruption. unless youre doing independent filming i dont know. but thats just me.
Just paused at 16:40 , I can code games for the Xbox in XNA , with a fine Object Orientated style to it , leaving Uni to code instead of do Games Design Course. It's very important that I realized that I don't need to graduate to benefit myself. We should all be encouraged to go after our own custom paths of learning - Only then can we match our skills , our passions and the demand in a dream ballance... and not be stuck in any system that dictates with speculatons...
the hell are you talkin about?
I am going for mechanical engineering because I suck at English and I hate art. Lol. However I am going to get my associates at my local community college then go to a university. Its cheaper and better that way.
ma man
***** this will be the state of things for a while. Robots will take over most jobs in the future. Engineering will be one of the last jobs before we give it to robots.
you still have to do english. shane bacawaka I failed english three times. Makes me wish Ipaid more attention in high school.
***** Yeah but the amount of papers you have to write is less in engineering and most science fields than civilization, law, economics, and so forth. Granted, I still need to crap out a 2-5 page lab report every once in a while. Still not as bad as a 10 page creative writing essay.
What about a Bachelor of Science in PHYSICAL GEOGRAPHY??
Studying chem engineering w/ dual technical marketing & mechatronics minor.
+Nadine G. You'll be fine.
I am a psycholigist with a 6 figure income. The demand for mental health services is higher than an xbox 360 or an ipod because its something that over half the country is in need of. I also worked in the computer field and it is over saturated.
Tennisumitsuma, thanx for uploading this video. It is really helpfull. : ) Do you think speech pathology and audiology are useless majors? And nursing?
I have a multimedia degree from ITT. It took them 2 years to tell me that I had to move out of state to get a job with it. They kept trying to force UPS on all the students after they graduated, but that was a obvious dead end. I still talk to a lot of my old classmates, they too can't get jobs with it. They recently took out the multimedia class and introduced new classes that have nothing to do with computers really.
I agree with Maximumwangchung with the spell checking but I also believe in typos and seeing that the "i" key is next to the "o" key I can see that happening, in other words I will give you the benefit of the doubt. Now about the computer field...Currently it is not over saturated. There is a high demand for people with degrees in Computer Science and Computer Engineering. These degrees are no piece of cake, about 50% change concentration or dropout after taking the basic programming course.
what?!
Just to note. I have red the book "Rich father, poor father". This book has very similarites (not same) with what you describe. The writer notes, that school system does not prepare the children for real world, and give two different aspects form friend's father and his fathers.
Also, good point "Producer vs. Parasite". So people, it your descision what do you want to be.
I couldnt have possibly said it any better. perfectly put. excellent job
@NothingAtAllXD
as is said in the video. 'first you find a job that's gonna pay', 'make sure its something that can put food on the table'. you may 'LOVE and ADORE' women's studies, but that wont pay any bills much less make you live good.
i guarantee you, you wont be happy and energetic if you go to work doing what you love, but are homeless on the street starving cause the job doesn't pay anything.
>certificate from technical school?
Indeed. If you have the talent for whatever trade you choose then go for it. As a diesel mechanic I can work nearly anywhere. I used to brag to my friends that even if we had another great depression, I'd still be working. So far so good.
THIS SHOULD BE A REQUIRED VIDEO FOR EVERY HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT. PERIOD.
answer to 2. You need to study an accredited (in US ABET, in UK Engineering council) degree if you want to be an Engineer and not a Technician - there is quite a difference between these roles and titles. Agreed more people should consider apprenticeships, but this is only really appropriate if you actually want to enter given field of work. In aviation we need Scientists and Engineers, but there is also a large business and logistics support function which is often over-looked.
Degree in natural resources?
I know. Most people are real suckers.
sorry for bad english, fast typing, it is too late here...
ur right man. i just spoke to a community college who offers the program. i'm going for it! i'm all fired up! too bad four years were blown. could've done this a while ago.
ur the man or woman tenns!
First off let me tell you how much I love this video. A few people that I know have been telling me this however, I did not want to believe them. But my question now is I am considering majoring in Computer Engineering, Eletrical Engineering, or Accounting. I know as you stated they are all solid but which one do you think is better of the three?
Thank You
the problem is, yes with a math science or engineering degree you are damn near guaranteed employment. the problem is these fields are not for people who struggled with algebra in high school. you cant pick a career by what it pays, you have to consider your own talents. being an engineer is only for a very small percentage of the population.
The rest of the public who is interested in job prospects should not need a degree, but they are bounded to by the employers who are also members of the public that believe their open positions should require a degree, but have not specified one. This creates a situation where all members of the public believe a degree is necessary for any position, regardless of the subject matter. This undermines the purpose of a degree, which is to learn the subject, not get a job.
The problems are embedded in the public's perception of what is required for a job, with the public being members of the employers and members of the prospective employees. For the people who are interested in job prospects, the resounding solution is not always college unless the subject of interest is law, medicine, engineering, or one of their derivatives.
Nope, my job actually requires hands-on work in the field, not just designing PCBs or something like that. Also part of a union....Anything else?
marketing has never influenced a decision ive made to buy anything.
im the most anti-name brand person on the planet. custom self built computer, no name brand clothes (that i make look as if they're designer), and generic xyz store brand unless name brand is unavoidable.
when i get computer parts, its specs first then looks second that get me to buy
I know people who are CPA's and they make way over $100,000. According to the chart it says they only $45,000.
With the increased focus on these added job prospects that some students were given after they were trained for a particular subject such as law, medicine, and engineering, the public started to believe an education is specifically for a job. This is not true. An education is to learn a subject. No degree is worthless, there just appears to be a misunderstanding of how the value of the degree is measured. Also, many positions have begun requiring degrees when the subject matter is not applicable
Sorry i was too careless to know this wasn't your video. I assumed you were the speaker. I am sorry for the disturbance.
i have 3 friends who major in psychology 2 unemployed for several years and 1 is working 3 jobs making minimum wage my child isn't going to school or college there's a such thing as a library internet and book stores i'll teach myself and he can start working and be considered an adult when i think he's ready not when he graduates from high-school which is extended 6th grade education a 6th grader can work a cash register but for some reason you need a high-school diploma to word at McDonalds
He'll yes I was scared I was making a huge mistake with my college. The only one is a four year college but I need it to prepare for more challenging work. I just finished high school and am about to attend a four year college for a degree in chemistry and then move on to get a masters in materials engineering or chemical engineering
The village needs video game?
kinda, thats if you plan on looking for work in law enforcement which I highly doubt theyre looking for nowadays, but again I have books on criminology and law codes that my neighbor threw away, I can learn criminal justice and child delinquency on my own, its the tact training that counts in the academy. You don't necessarily need a degree to be a police officer.
I disagree with the title. the video does not state that college is a fraud. It only mentions that there are lots of degrees that are worthless and focuses on bringing awareness of such. But he specifies that degrees such as Engineering are degrees worth studying/taking in college.
Basically I agree with the video but the title is wrong. You need a degree to be an Engineer thus you need to go to college for that, but there are also "trap" degrees which you need to avoid.
You can almost a kin it too a musician, talent is the overwhelming factor there. I'm getting an electricians degree with a focus in renewable energy and hope to work in the private sector, but I have a backup plan to run my dad's tree nursery if things fall through with that. I know I won't make much money in my life, but I am fortunate I will never be unemployed or without a place to live.