Using the combination of tannic acid and iron nitrate can enhance the contrast of figured maple by darkening the end grain. Jim demonstrates his method for using these together
I love the finish and I just ordered all three recommendations from your website. Your pup in the background is precious! Thank you for the videos, they are very informative and will help me greatly once I get to that part of my build.
I love your videos about staining and finishing stocks im always interesting in learning the more traditional ways of finishing , ive done hundereds of gun stocks over the years from everything from modern rifles to vintage firearms that are 100+ years old so the more traditional means of doing this are helpful i use a lot of boiled linseed oil but the iron nitrate is new to me and im definitely going to give it a try when i restor my sons win .22 im curious how it will look on walnut
Could you do a video strictly on recipes of colors. So that if on extra curly fancy maple. To get a redish color, this is the recipe. To go with Brown Finish, this is the recipe. Not everyone is familiar all the items on what to use. Thanks
My grandfather had a black lab that lost a right rear leg to a cutter bar but could get around almost as well after as before ( this was in the late 1950s in SW. South-west South Dakota Smithwick) Dog lived out its life on a ranch in Fall River County.
whats the logic of not staining the inlet areas.... especially the lock area....been building for 30 years and have never done it...doesn't make sense to me
That would work fine. It might be a little harder to judge the color without the oil though. Any dust created can be a little nasty as well so breathing protection would be a good thing.
After all this procces , how does tounge oil worked in, work for a realy glossy finish?? ( will the tounge oil change that BEUTIFUL COLOR AND CONTRAST)?
I bought some knife handle blanks on which I can try different techniques. In my opinion ferric acid with aqua fortis alone can be so dark that you barely see the curl afterwards. I will use only aqua fortis on my kit because I dont see the point of buying expensive wood and then stain it black.
I knew I was going to buy one of his kits as soon as I saw his three legged dog walk by. This is the kind of man I want to buy from.
Me too!
Great video. Love the dog, he/she keeps on truckin. There’s a lesson there.
Your variations with the staining process , provide a great service to the followers of your TH-cam channel !!! I Appreciate you & your Lady !!!
At first I wasn't too keen on the way that things started out but it sure did end up looking pretty good
That came out very well, The grain figure is a real beauty!!!!
Thanks--iron nitrate is my go-to for all maple
Hint: put talcum powder on your hands before putting on the blue gloves :) :)
Kim from Australia here, just subscribed and thoroughly enjoying your series, thank you sir.
Thanks and welcome
Great work Jim!! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Nigel
I love the look that you have made it so far.
Thanks--I like how it brings out the figure
I love the finish and I just ordered all three recommendations from your website. Your pup in the background is precious! Thank you for the videos, they are very informative and will help me greatly once I get to that part of my build.
Thanks--her name is Little Dog. She's a trusty shop dog.
@@kiblerjim what happened to her poor leg?
Hi Jim beautiful stock. good job.
Waiting on the tannic acid and going to try this
Love the look
thanks for watching!
Excellent job. I'm a retired Tool & Die guy/ gun builder, be nice to see a video of your shop.
Thanks for watching!
Too bad that stock was damaged. It has some nice character. I like the color you acheived a lot.
Yeah, sometimes issues with the wood show up only after it has been shaped. It sure does make a nice color
not a waste. Knife handles, axe handle...
Would make wonderful cap+ball revolver grips also!!.
I love the look.
Thanks!
I love your videos about staining and finishing stocks im always interesting in learning the more traditional ways of finishing , ive done hundereds of gun stocks over the years from everything from modern rifles to vintage firearms that are 100+ years old so the more traditional means of doing this are helpful i use a lot of boiled linseed oil but the iron nitrate is new to me and im definitely going to give it a try when i restor my sons win .22 im curious how it will look on walnut
Joy of all joys we get to see you put on gloves.
Very good video. Do you have a video on staining/finishing one of the cherry stocks?
2:26 Precious.
Could you do a video strictly on recipes of colors. So that if on extra curly fancy maple. To get a redish color, this is the recipe. To go with Brown Finish, this is the recipe. Not everyone is familiar all the items on what to use. Thanks
Maybe in the future, I kind of wing it because every piece of wood is a little different
Too black for me - think I’ll just use iron nitrate - and hope for some red tint
Not too bad - I like iron nitrate for a more red look
Late to the video but thanks for sharing just the same....give the ol dog Tripod a scratch :)
I love a three legged dog!
She sure is something. Been with us for a very long time.
My grandfather had a black lab that lost a right rear leg to a cutter bar but could get around almost as well after as before ( this was in the late 1950s in SW. South-west South Dakota Smithwick) Dog lived out its life on a ranch in Fall River County.
@@earlwheelock7844 That's a sweet story.
whats the logic of not staining the inlet areas.... especially the lock area....been building for 30 years and have never done it...doesn't make sense to me
You've created tiger ebony!!
Please do a video on your patina solution.
We will--sorry it is not done yet--we haven't had a gun to finish up with it
Yes please do. Bought that from your site, would love to see a video on it.
i think the color is fine without the bone black or further dies
I agree! Thanks for the comment
What kind of look would you expect to get if you used this process on walnut? Just curious. Tks
Jim
Do you ever apply any type of sealer to the various inlets in a stock?
Yes, one coat of sealer to all the inlets. any more than that would keep the parts from fitting well
oh that is pretty
Doesn't tanic acid come from boiling walnuts?
We used to dye steel (rusty iron) traps with tanic acid . Black color looks the same ...
Jim, How would it work to rub the stock back before applying the oil finish?
That would work fine. It might be a little harder to judge the color without the oil though. Any dust created can be a little nasty as well so breathing protection would be a good thing.
When rubbing the stock down with the Scotch Bright pad, how does that affect relief carving? Is the raised carving degraded in any way?
Very minor, it might soften it a tiny bit which can actually be a good thing
Is it possible to do the same process on a guitar ?
Greetings from France
I don't see why not!
What was the ratio of water to tannic acid you used
After all this procces , how does tounge oil worked in, work for a realy glossy finish?? ( will the tounge oil change that BEUTIFUL COLOR AND CONTRAST)?
It would work well as an alternative to a linseed oil based finish
Which tried and true varnish there are a couple different versions ?
It's the Varnish Oil
What will happen to walnut?
Looks good! How would I get it darker and still have the contrasting grain?
I bought some knife handle blanks on which I can try different techniques. In my opinion ferric acid with aqua fortis alone can be so dark that you barely see the curl afterwards.
I will use only aqua fortis on my kit because I dont see the point of buying expensive wood and then stain it black.
I love the top of the stock, but the bottom looks like a black blob. Is it possible to lighten that up?
yeah looks terrible
How do you finish the stock? Do you keep applying coats of the tried and true oil until it’s done absorbing?
it will eventully stop absobing few coats later and start layering in very thin coats. this is a mimick of a french polish
Nitric acid is not easily available in the UK but ferric nitrate for silver etching is, are they the same?
Yes, they are the same.
That stir stick has to be patented and traditional!!
It looks to me like it was painted black not good - curl disappeared
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How deep is this treatment? Is it acceptable to use steel wool for spreading iron nitrate on a wooden surface?
I don't care for that finish, too dark.
To dark for me. It will darken after years and be black. The wife did a stain job and that one was just right.
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