What's With the Sights?? Jim Kibler Woodsrunner Gun Build Addendum | FLINTLOCK | BLACKPOWDER | DIY |
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- Peter returns to the gun build to explain why the sights are on backwards and to provide more information on the products he used to patina and finish the metal and the wood.
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I watched your Kibler video. One thought on bullet molding. Use a candle to flux your lead to get rid of the slag. Just stick the candle in the melted lead and let it burn. Then dip off the slag and discard it. Also, leave a molded bullet in your mold after you are through casting. This will keep the mold clean and keep it from rusting between uses. You are right to warm your mold before casting. It takes several casts to bring it up to temp. I use Super Lube on my pocket knives. It is better than KPL and is bio degradable and food safe. I am sure it would work fine on your lock.
You adjust the sights to where it is shooting. If it is grouping low, then you lower the front sight. If it is grouping high, then you make the front sight taller. Just the opposite for the rear sight. I have always liked TRU-OIL for gun stock finishes. Easy to put on and repair. Thinned out coats for the first few coats. Wet sanded after several coats with 440 W or Dry.
I always cleaned my black powder with soap and water using the ram rod with a tight fitting patch like a pump with the breech sitting in a plastic bucket full of hot soapy water. I then dried it by the fire place with a good coating of oil on the outside and a patch pushed through the bore.
I’m right there with you. I’m 53 and can no longer see the rear sight on my rifle clearly. The front sight and the target are crisp, but the rear sight is blurry. If I wear my reading glasses, I can see the rear sight better, but the target is fuzzy. This seems to work best for me and I still shoot well that way.
I'm right there with ya. Same situation here
Sometimes I think one simply starts to shoot instinctively… once you know your rifle it just works, poor eyesight and all.
❤your videos!
Flattered, thank you.
Thanks Peter!!! Oh and you as well Cathy!!!
I just want to tell you what a joy it is watching you in these incredibly immersive and well detailed videos.
They discuss what I don't really think can be called a hobby. This is a way of life and speaks to a time so different, certainly not simpler as many might think but so worth knowing about and most importantly not losing! Having hunted most of my life and shot competition trap I think these things that are done to make leather, put food on the table, build homes and not just survive but thrive in our world are things to precious to lose to time. Your videos will be viewed for ever and held up as how to do these things right. Thank you for the time and dedication you provide. If you have time it would be great to see a list of other folks that you feel are as diligent and thoughtful as yourself providing similar ideas. Perhaps as a static list in the lower about area.
Thanks so much!
Flattering and kind words indeed. I thank you, sir.
I noticed the sights backwards in the build video but I kept my mouth to myself. My dad is 74 and has his fun seeing the sights too. Your #1 sub from Mb.
There were a lot of folks that didn’t, lol. I knew it would generate some interest. Appreciate your continued interest in our endeavours.
Thanks peter for the follow-up video. Looking forward to your hunts with the new rifle. Have a great sunday and God bless. Thank you my friend.
Thanks and the same back, sir.
Bill Bryson, the author, commented on aging, saying that your vision gets dimmer, your hearing gets worse, your memory sucks, your joints ache, and your bladder leaks - and that’s when things are going “swimmingly well”. Keep it up. Love your videos.
Too funny!
64 here. Eyes are going but thank the Lord that that front sight is still crisp as can be
That’s the important one, lol. Thanks for watching.
Peter, Thank You for taking the time to answer all of our questions and showing all of the processes used in finishing the flintlock rifle. I like all things gun related but have a special interest in the flintlock longrifles that were so important to the people and history of North America. Keep up the great work 👍🏻
Thank you sir.
Thank you for going above and beyond into giving us the PostScript on your build.
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Peter
Boy, you sure hit the nail on the head when you identified age impact on depth of field!! I now have tri-focal glasses to compensate for age related eyesight defect. It helps significantly.
Thanks for the follow up vid. I was sure you hadn't made an error in sights placement. That said, I have been known to misplace a few things myself but I put that down to being either 76 years young or distraction from spousal interaction 😂
Might need to look at a glasses upgrade. However, I never hunt with them on… perhaps I’ve done enough shooting to simply do it instinctively.
Peter , you're an amazing guy to have built all those structures on your property. I would have never guessed that you're in your seventies , you get around like a man in his 20's or 30's. I figured that you were in your late 50's. Keep on truckin' your channel is one of my favorites.
Wow, thanks. You should see me hobble around when the cameras not in, lol!
That turned out so nice! And thank you for answering everyone’s questions. I love that gorgeous rifle!
Thank you.
I haven’t been getting your notifications lately. Glad this one came through finally ❤️🤗🐝
Welcome back!
@@TheWoodlandEscape thank you❤️🐝🤗
Peter and Cathy a many thanks to you two for making videos for us your viewers to enjoy watching it. Again, thank you!
Not a lot of effort as we are doing all this stuff on a daily basis and we love to share.
Just found the addendum! LOL Great video. I just finished up a Kibler Colonial kit in 58 yesterday. I agree with you. Very impressive kit indeed. Really enjoyed the first video, and then the sight's at the end! Oh No! Really made my historical accuracy brain cells crawl. Then this video! I see there was a reason. I'm glad you got them "fixed" and an explanation. Well done sir well done. As a recent viewer and now subscriber of the channel, I have some back videos to catch up on. Take care.
Appreciate your interest and support. You sir gave me a good chuckle!
Very nice gun 😃👍
Thank you.
Appreciate your efforts and dedication! Love the channel as you know, so anytime I can get a bonus episode just makes life a little sweeter. Thanks again and keep your powder dry!
Thanks my friend and do keep an eye on your top knot!
You’ve chosen a great life friend 🎉
I think so too! Thanks for your interest.
Thank you so much for doing this. I hope you will continue for many years to come.
Well sir, we are both on the same page when it comes to longevity, lol.
Too funny!
Your moving dang good for 77. Im thinking pretty cute you got backward forward LOL. We all do it. Carry on.
Actually 70, don’t you be wishing my life away, lol!
Beautiful Long Gun
Thank you.
I noticed that your sights were on ., but thought you were up to something by doing it. I know you know how they go. So, thanks for clearing that up for everyone out there. I know all about aging eyes. At almost 68 years old, and wearing glasses, they don't work like they used to. Again, nice job on that gun. I use some of the same techniques on my guns.
Thanks very much, Jack.
78 years old? Still young! You are proving the nowadays saying "Age is just a number". I do enjoy your videos, thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. Greetings from Utah, USA.
Never let the old man in. Thanks for watching. I’m only 70 though, lol.
You have more energy than a 5 yo raspberry picker ! I enjoy all the knowledge you’ve given. Last time you were building a fort, now talk’n rifles, there’s a new full size farm barn behind you!!! Wow.
There you gone and made me laugh … raspberry pickers you say. That there barn is a ways off as the fort is an undertaking indeed.
Good afternoon from Syracuse NY USA brother and everyone else thank you for sharing your adventures in history videos
Thanks for watching!
Outstanding video brother
Thanks Earl
Outstanding video
Thanks for sharing Mr. Peter.
Very welcome
What a treat, two videos in the same week, and very good videos at that.
Thank you Peter, thank you Cathy.
Glad you like them!
Beautiful work as always.
Thanks again!
Thanks for the tutorial. Beautiful build!
Glad you like it!
Thanks for sharing all this history and info, this is one great site.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for sharing that info with us!
Our pleasure!
I would love to read or see an interview with Peter. To learn about his own history and what led him to become the talented and wise man that he is.
I’m humbled by your kind words, thank you.
Thanks for making these videos and bringing history to life! 👏👍
Glad you like them!
Thx for doing this and sharing. 👍👍👍👍👍
My pleasure!
Gorgeous finished piece Peter.
Thank you, Michael.
Hail from Northeastern Washington State, USA. I forwarded this dandy episode over to a friend on the Washington State coast, about 30 miles from the Pacific Ocean. He really appreciates the 1700’s era and hopefully he forwards your site to others…
We certainly appreciate your support and for watching our step back in time endeavour.
I admire your dedication to our history and your videos are awesome, thank you for sharing! I too have a Kibler and I love it, I'm looking forward to getting another kit soon from Kibler to do this coming fall... God bless brother
Thanks for watching! The kit is outstanding!
This video makes me smile sir!
Then it was worth doing!
I do hope it shoots as good as it looks just enjoying looking at it best of luck on your coming hunts
Fingers crossed, I’m experimenting with loads now and I’m pretty optimistic that it’s a good one.
It’s such an amazing gun, and I wish I had one… have a Blessed Sunday Peter and Cathy…!
Thank you.
Thanks for the extra video it was great.
Glad you enjoyed it!
This is incredibly high quality content. Subscribed. Subject matter, that cricket, setting, and your voice is perfect!
Such flattering words. We thank you for your interest and support.
I sure appreciate you doing this video to explain the sights. All is well with the world again. I also just subscribed to your channel.
Thanks for the subscribing, Roger, we appreciate your interest and support.
I used Beachwood "Plum Brown" to make my barrel look sorta rusted, worked great. Heated the barrel up with a propane torch not hot but really warm and applied it with a dobber. Let it cool and wiped it down with a damp cloth. It there are any spots that need to have the plum brown reapplied just heat it up and repeat the application, no one will be able to tell the difference.
Might have to give that a try someday
Looks great thanks for answering the questions.
The last BP kit I built I did the patina on the barrel with hot white vinegar but have mostly done it your way with cold blue and steel wool
Both work.
I too Love using things that have a Historic Reverence on these or other builds. Just used Teak oil from Dad's shop after he passed, found other things that WILL be used with a story in Honor of Pops!
VERY NICE! Love your Shop! Love your LAND!
GREAT JOB!
So Happy I found your Channel!
I’m also pleased that you found us and flattered by your kind words,
I was going to brown my TVM Virginia, but I really like the way you did yours. TVM suggested doing it like you did. Turned out great!
Awesome! Thank you!
I love the look of your rifle , for explaining your staining. I used iron nitrate on my kibler colonial and woodsrunner but would like to try that on my next one .
That is my normal method, just felt like a little experiment.
Amazing content, God bless!
Thank you! You too!
As for the sights, I just figured you were testing our powers of observation skills.
Perhaps and those that watched are observant indeed. So many commented on the sights!
Cool. I am very interested in how to make my own flintlock rifle for hunting. Thank you for sharing this inspirational video.
Your welcome, Michael.
Interesting video. So was the first one.
Glad you liked it!
Never apologize for getting old eyes. I appreciate the time you take to put out these videos, my old eyes enjoy them. Keep up the good work and having fun doing it I’m sure. Keep your powder dry.
Ok, you’ve convinced me,lol. Glad your enjoying our channel but, do watch yer top knot.
We too use rendered bear grease on all the externals of our Pennsylvania rifle, but quite honestly never thought of using it to preserve the bore or to lubricat the rifle's innards. We sure will be now though! Thanks for a real nice build and, as always, some good useful information.
Thank you.
Somehow I missed the last video, I'll have to go back and watch it! I LOVE my flintlock. I didn't build it and it's not a long gun but it's mine and it shoots a good group. As good as I can shoot these days anyway. Like you I can't focus on all 3 pieces to guarantee a great shot. I have to swap to reading glasses so I can see the sites and the vague outline of the target. It works well for me. A prop works well too! Free hand isn't nearly as good as it used to be. I'm working on a good shooting stick now. I have it in the back drying out. I actually need to check it, it could be time to strip the bark...Another great video, thanks for taking the time to make it!
Off hand shooting is a life long endeavour I’ve found… practice,practice,practice! Having said that, I love my shooting stick, lol.
Hello my friend hello from Detroit Michigan 👍🏻
And to you sir.
It's such a joy watching your videos! You've inspired me and I'm sure others as well. Thanks for taking the time to bring your enthusiasm into my home weekly! God bless.
You are so welcome!
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It such a joy when your weekly posts come in. I just love your enthusiasm and love for history, plus keeping up the old traditions! I have learned more about history and creating then most of my life time of education. I pored through the Allen Eckert books. Recently bought the Grey Owl series as well looking forward to some winter time reading. My question to you is I’ve recently been given a had made 41 caliber rifled flintlock. I would like to harvest a Turkey with it. Would you recommend using shot in it. I have seen a few utube videos where guys have done it but I’m really not sure if it’s safe for the rifling. It’s a beautiful curley maple stock Pennsylvania long rifle. Any thoughts would be welcomed. Keep up the great work to you and the misses!!!!
@@neilgourley4097 I think I’d be saving my Pennie’s for a Fowler. Even if it didn’t damage the rifling I can’t imagine getting a good group for hunting.
Man! you are making me want to try and build one of these kits!!!
You’ll not be disappointed!
My eyes are 60 years old and I'm starting to have problems focusing on all three at the same time myself.
I purchased a rear sight from track of the wolf that looks traditional except for a peep hole in the rear, I've been using peep sights for many years, and for me, this one was a natural.
RS-CA-PEEP-16 Track of the Wolf This is the part number if anyone is interested.
It's not a drop-in fit, but it's close for my Kibler Colonial rifle.
A little filling, then fire blued, and it looks like it's always belonged there.
I do like a peep sight.
thanks for sharing 😊
My pleasure 😊
As we get older sometimes it helps to move the back sight forward to clear the sight picture. I knew a guy once that moved the rear sight about 18" from front sight on a 40" barrel.
I have moved the rear site on guns in the past, but never that much … thanks for the advice.
Very well done. Very well done explained. Very beautiful firearm. I am so ready to burn some black powder.
I’m always ready to burn the nasty stuff, lol.
Hi 👋
I've been watching your videos and first I would like to thank you for all your time and work bringing this information together and reviving a huge part of our historical culture. I would like you to do a video about your hat and what you used to adorn the hat. Please let me know. I think you did an excellent job decorating it. Again,Thanks for all you do!
That might be a good idea in an upcoming episode. We appreciate your interest and support.
As my eyes got older and had trouble seeing the sights on my Cabin Creek Yorktown flintlock, I had the rear sight moved forward about 6 inches. It really made a difference. Might want to give that a try
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I’ve heard that it really helps. I’ll try this falls hunting first and see if I need to do that.
Hi Peter, Good video as usual. Jim definitely has the most precise kit on the market,you can’t go wrong with one. I will say finishing can be done many ways depending on the look and age you are trying to achieve. Art is in the eye of the beholder. Many folks including myself that work in the Woodbury school I think aging with Clorox is a great idea and look if done correctly. My good friend Hershel House has taught this technique to many folks and been using it for 50 years with great success. When finishing a gun use whatever you think will give you the look you want . Not trying to be controversial. Keep up the great work. Best Wishes.
Id certainly glean a lot of knowledge hanging out with the likes of you and your fiends… huge admirer of both yours and Hershel’s work!
Love your videos. I am 74 and I too had trouble with open sights, that changed after I had cataract surgery. Now I can see pretty well, I didn't know how blind I was! Lord bless you always!
Unfortunately cataract surgery won’t fix mine.
Great vid again sir! 👌
Glad you enjoyed it!
I've been using cold blue and carding it off on steel parts for years and it does give a nice look. It also ages well especially around the touch hole and muzzle. There was a series of articles 20 or so years ago in Muzzle Blasts about the early gunsmiths and in that article, the writer had lists of items in inventory during estate sales or in settling debts after death. Blueing Salts came up in several of them. Discussion at the time was that meant "browning" but I think those fellows were pretty smart and knew the difference between blue and brown. My hypothesis is many of the guns made in the 18th and 19th centuries were either blued or the metal parts were "white". What we see today is 200+ years of sitting in an attic, basement or otherwise non -climate controlled environments. Were some browned from the beginning? Probably, the process to rust and then dunk in boiling water to turn the rust black has also been around a long time. Having seen a lot of collections and handled numerous old original riles, one thing I have learned is to never say never. As soon as you say "they never did it that way" someone will pull out an original to prove you wrong. (haha, but it is true). Nice work you did on that rifle by the way. Looks great and, more importantly, it seems to shoot great. Best of both worlds.
You’ve no idea how many times I’ve heard , they didn’t do it that way, lol. Almost as often as, if they’d a had it, they’d used it. Thanks for sharing.
Saw the sights but knew there was a method to your madness.
Usually there isn’t, lol!
Thanks, Mark.
I figured you were just so excited and anxious to get shooting you lost track! 😂
That too, lol!
Hi Peter, one trick the helps my old eye's is an adjustable peep sight just a little bit behind the hammer, Marbles makes one similar to the one I use available at Midway USA, a little pricey, have to experiment with the distance but it does make quite a difference! Or try bending a fuzzy pipe cleaner and burn the center out of it need about an 1/8 inch hole and tape it on there to try in out. Good luck. Paul and Lisa
Hey Paul and Lisa, I might just have to give that a try! Thank you.
Had my cataracts removered when I was 66years old I'm now 68 and my eye sight was greatly improved. I can see my sights as well as the target. I have Jim Kiblers Colonial rifle in .54 cal smoothbore.
Perhaps that would help me as well but, don’t need the operation yet.
That is a beautiful rifle!
Thank you.
An interesting experiment with the sights, I too have just started having problems focussing all three items when sighting, although you are 10 years younger than me, I find that when cutting for the rear sight it is best to loosely place the sight on the top flat, then move it along until you get a sharp picture, that is where I cut the dovetail. Enjoy shooting your lovely rifle! Chris B.
That’s sound advice, thanks for sharing.
Beautiful gun! I'm hoping to get one in walnut one of these days.
You’ll not be disappointed.
Interesting
Thank you.
Shooting : I was a military shooter- so about this video and your comment on shooting. THE HUMAN EYE CANNOT FOCUS ON TWO THINGS AT ONE TIME. SNIPER SHOOTER TRAINING. YOU START AT FRONT SIGHT OR CROSS HAIRS. PUT THESE SIGHTS WERE YOU WANT THEM. YOUR TARGET IS A BLUR. FINGER ON TRIGGER, AS YOU APPLY PRESSURE HUM IN THE KEY OF F. WHEN GUN GOES OFF IT SHOULD BE A TOTAL SURPRISE EVERY TIME. THE LAST 20 YEARS I SHOT BP AT RENDEZVOUS. GREAT PROGRAM LOVE ALL ABOUT IT. HOWDY
That is pretty much how I teach children , particularly the shot should surprise you every time even if you e fired thousands of round . Appreciate your interest.
Thank you for sharing how you did the build. I just finished a Kibler southern mountain rifle. I don't think that there is a better kit out there for people who are unable to do scratch builds.
Totally agree, Tom.
Beautiful work! I am saving up for one. Wish good fortune to do so in this economy 😅
You’ll not be disappointed! Thanks for watching.
DAMN FINE FIREARM COBBER, happy hunting,
Thank you and you as well.
I have a Kibler .45 southern mountain and a .58 cal colonial rifle built them both and they are tack drivers
This one looks like it might be as well… still experimenting with loads.
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Wow 2 videos in 1 week ! That's awesome! You asked what muskets I have . I have 2 both Pedersolie 1 smooth bore ( Brown Bess ) and 1 rifle. 69 cal and 50 cal. Thanks
Try googling Callahan Bag Molds.
Excellent thanks for the info!! I've already Google!!
Thank you Sir for very informative teaching! Keep your powder dry my friend!!
Thank you, I will
Used linseed oil on my walnut stock, rubbing it in with my palm letting the heat of my palm get warm opening the pores and grain of the wood. Over time the, Looks very good.
Good stuff, I’ve also used your spoon stuff with good results.
I think I may just have to pick up one. It'al be number 5 for me. I shoot a fusille, don't need sights with shot.😬
Speaking of mustard, I've used plain mustard to patina knives I've built. Solid coat, or speckled works great.
I love the lines of a fusille. Mustard is certainly a go to for me.
Peter, I'm fascinated by the historical details of everyday life in that time period that you share with us. Just the making of the bear fat oil/grease would make an interesting video; making what is needed to maintain life with just what nature has provided is almost a 'lost art'!
Mother Nature certainly can take care of our needs if one knows where to look. Great idea for an episode.
Hey my friend the gun looks fantastic great job.
Thanks, Larry.
I used to shoot with the tidewater blackpowder club an we had some guys that could build some beautiful rifles most of them lived on the eastern shore Maryland
There are some very talented gun builders out there.
Had I been able to see those sights, I'm not in a position to question you on your placement of them. I figure you would have a good reason for it. 😊😊👍👍
Thanks for the laugh!
Years ago I purchased a Winchester 73 in 44 40. The rear sight was on backwards....had been that way since new.....you could tell by the wear pattern. Elderberry makes a beautiful wood stain.
I used to own a Model 73 … wish I’d hung onto it.
@@TheWoodlandEscape This one still has the cleaning rod in the butt trap! Made 1895....
Very nice rifle
Thank you.
After you clean your gun with the tow, keep the used tow until it dries. Once it is dried, it can be used in the fire making kit. The used tow will have residual carbon and nitrates that help in catching a spark from the flint and steel. Give it a try and see if it makes things easier.
That is a brilliant suggestion, thank you.
Hi
I want you to know how much I have Lea n d watching your show!!
Thanks and keep at it.
I also suffer the same vision issue that you do and thought that I might have to give up hunting with my flintlock….
However I have as told to go buy a pair of the lowest power reading glasses and try to shoot.
I can see the sights perfectly and the he target almost perfect….
Give it a try.
The banks again.
I will most definitely give that a try, thanks for sharing.
To quote Jerry mitcheback, always concentrate on your front site.
The I only has the ability to concentrate on one thing at a time
Sound advice indeed!
enjoyed this. I am 85 years old and still trying to see gun sights and making bulls eyes.and i wore out one mainspring vise.
Still shooting, good for you.