DISNEY Dreamlight Valley Update 5 Review. 3 MOST HATED Features in Update 5. Is It Deserved?
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- There is a few things in update 5 that made fans very upset in DISNEY Dreamlight Valley. My thoughts about Wall-E Dream bundle, did it actually ruin the update in DDV?
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Ok, so Wall-E quest is not bugged, it just wasn't explained very well, I figured it out. I'll make a vid tomorrow on it when I finish it. Also just wanted to make it clear, I'm not defending Gameloft, the pack is overpriced for sure, but the amount of hate they are getting online is not deserved in my opinion, they made a lot of good things and one bad, and I'm hoping they will take people's feedback about this pack and find a way to monetize a game and provide a better value to players in the future updates.
Agree
Tyvm
15:56 just saw what you said, but I also read your comment. It was probably one of the hardest places for me to figure out where to put it on the beach as well. My girlfriend was on the beach for an hour, trying to figure out where to place it, and she told me where to place it.
I agree with you. Sure, the pricing is insane, but people are taking their rage on the development team too far.
I think putting a quest behind a paywall when the game isn’t even released yet really rubbed people the wrong way. Early access ultimate edition is like $70 which is more expensive than fully finished AAA games, and then to put out a new quest and stick it behind an overpriced paywall. People are already paying just to play the game right now. I’m not ragging on the devs personally I’m just not going to buy the wall e bundle, I’m just playing devils advocate and guessing as to why people are this upset.
The issue with the Wall-E bundle though too, is that Gameloft said they wouldn't pay-wall quests during early access and still went ahead and did it anyway.
People actually believed that? XD
Right? This actually is right on point for Gameloft lol I paid $70 for this game, and I can say that I have yet to get my money's worth, and to get more, I have to pay more. Not quite the game I thought I was buying.
No, they said STORY related quests...not quests in general. This one was purely optional and not part of the overrall story.
@@SimplyDeeSims dont say that too loudly in the subreddit they'll jump on you like they did me and insult everything from my face to my personality.
@simsiewriter4876 actually in the mission statement it clearly states DLC content and skins would be the way they would raise money. .... .... .... right in the mission statement...... you know the one they put out to get people to buy the "free" game to begin with.
My guess is that many people are upset/disappointed/angry about the Wall-E quest because it APPEARED from the trailer and patch notes that this would be another free part of the update. And then in reality it wasn't free. Ultimately that is just an unrealized expectation, but it sort felt like a deception.
It is deception. I know they didn't cook this over night. They always knew this would be another revenue stream so they should have told people about it beforehand like they mentioned the paid realms. Not casually drop it next to their already ridiculous premium shop.
yes thats my issue they didnt say it was for pay. Will I still pay for it? Yes yes I will because I love Hello Dolly. And the outfits are based on some of its costumes.
Yeh exactly, it looked free but then I saw a streamer paying for it and I'm not prepared to so I just watched them play it. I think people were led to believe it'd be free, so yeh we're upset.
It literally said at the bottom of the screen when the Wall-E portion of the video played that the dream bundle would be available for purchase. It wasn't in small lettering or deceptive. They indicated on the bottom that the premium shop items including the new tool skins and the dream bundle were not free.
I don’t mind paying for extra quests. I think it’s nice for people complaining for more stuff to do. Just don’t make it half the price of the base model game where we not only get so much game play but also a founders pack with furniture and moonstones. Pricing doesn’t match the content amount
It's still cheaper than going to the theater for 2 hours to watch a Disney movie, at least😊
@@Josh-Man well, the starpaths basically pay for themselves. Because in the end if you finish (which should be easy if you don't have a job) it's only about 400 moonstones.
Also, the base game doesn't cost a thing and everything else is OPTIONAL, so if you don't have a job, then you can't afford it even if it's reasonable, right?
I'd be fine paying for it if it the price were more reasonable. For many of the star paths, users have to buy star coins anyway unless they grinded the previous one to completion and got all the star coin unlocks. So that price compiled with this quest and the shop items? That's asking way too much in one month. They would be better off offering a subscription plan if that's what they're gonna do.
@@raynaemurray the starpath costs 2590 moonstones and you can get back 2100 if you complete it.
Also, the premium shop is optional it's just FOMO that makes people mad. When you buy a new car, do you get angry that all the options aren't just thrown in for free, or that they ARE available for other people to add? It's just weird to be mad at this game that is no more expensive than any console game nowadays. They ALL have premium skins or shops or heroes etc. It's pretty standard...
@@raynaemurray also... The "grind" as people keep calling it, is just playing the game isn't it???
I mean what exactly is the game if not completing quests??
People get upset about the star path but then they see others decorating with star path items asking where they can get those items too but those items were only limited time. Get the items now, be inspired later. Even the motifs. Now that you can do more with it, you’re gonna see some cool designs and may want to do the same
I despise the fact that all the best items are locked behind a pay wall and there's no way that most people who don't buy moonstones will be able to get everything. And wtf 4000 moonstones for two outfits?!? It's Fallout 76 item shop levels of agregious x
@@nejdalej I've never bought moonstones and always do the upgraded starpath.
@@beckisturgeon8824 same here! never spent any money on moonstones. I just finish the starpath and I always have enough for next
@@beckisturgeon8824 yes if you spend the $$ on the big pack that makes sense. You get a step forward. I Use to think this way to until the moment you really get low on moonstones and get stuck between Locked DLC or Star path... Even tho i recall them saying no content well be locked other then skins for the house and stuff like that.. now they are locking quest lol. Red flags are sadly going off. Well have to see.
Right? And the starpath, pays. For. Itself. (If you complete it)
It's like the people who say Casita is too big, there's no room in the valley, or the item limit is too low there's no room... But then want more free stuff. Lol
I wouldn’t mind the Wall-E items were behind the pay wall. But I’m upset because it sets a very bad taste in my mouth that there are quests hidden from players that don’t want to pay for the games
I find it's similar to the sims "vacation" or "school" packs or whatever .. they're optional and expensive!! But they don't make the game any less good .
@@angrymuppet4209 I don't know if they're compareable. This game makes the sims look cheap 👀
@@pa5666 true plus sims have discounts during sales on dlc and ddv didn't consider this as a dlc. So they are clearly using peoples fomo like some cheap mobile game
I mind that it is that expensive! Are they out of their effing mind?! Wth?!
@@Figi_00 I totally agree. I was hoping with all the premium shop backlash, they'd find a way to introduce at least one sale since the items are recurring, but they appear to be holding firm at least for now. It's really annoying to be honest lol.
The paths are annoyingly buggy rn, but I hate way more that we can't just add the edges paths to existing paths!
I’m not as bothered but people are angry because they’re worried about what this means for the future. The game isn’t even out yet and they’re overcharging for things so people expect it either to not get any better or they’re worried it’s going to get worse when it launches free to play. They’re also upset at the low quality of some things and all the glitches on top of high priced items. I think it’s fair to be concerned especially when they have done nothing really and said little when it comes to the price complaints. As far as content updates go I agree with you that’s it’s great but to play devil’s advocate this isn’t a released game exactly as it’s early access and essentially the updates we’re getting is what will be there from day 1 when the game gets truly released so it’s not the same as a released game getting continuously updated. They’re supposed to continue updates after it’s released and I like the game a lot so no doubt I’ll continue buying stuff, but I am disappointed with the pricing.
One thing I would like them to add next is for us to sell furniture we don’t need anymore
Yesss!
I admit I am extremely disappointed with the Wall.E bundle. I live in Australia so in order to purchase the moonstones for this quest it will cost me $30.99 which is a little too steep in my opinion. I love DDVL and this update looks really fun, I love the star path items and everything else is great (apart from the bugged corners on the paths). I also love Wall.E, the cuteness he brings to the valley and his garden, and yes the outfits are cool and Wall.E looks adorable, for me it’s just the price especially living in Australia. I will definitely need to think really hard if I can afford this bundle at the moment and I hope that it is not for a limited time and stays around for a long time so when I can afford it I can get it. I would be even more disappointed and upset if they introduce a new character that we have to pay for it, that will be something I am concerned about and will be disappointed about.
In my opinion Gameloft does not deserve the hate, I definitely do not have any hate towards them, the update is still good. But, I do feel as though they need to rethink their pricing for the Wall.E quest and even for the premium shop because when conversion rates for different countries comes to play, it can get extremely expensive.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but new characters will eventually be paid. And if you think Wall-E was expensive, I can bet that those realms will cost even more. I hope this Wall-E and other future quest expansions will not be limited time. I hope they get put back into the shop every few months or so. If they don't connect to the main storyline, there's no reason to make it limited anyway.
@@Josh-Man You and me both! 😥😤
About the paths with borders I am very disappointed in how they have done it, I wanted to add borders to my paths, not have to craft all the paths again. It's taken MONTHS to put soil in some biomes in my valley and I don't feel like doing it again.
I think that a good option for the game would be that we could destroy or recycle things that we have made and that the materials used be returned to us.
So glad you are a spokesman for this community. Thank you for all you do because I know it must take many hours.
Yes the wall-e pack is expensive but there was so much content added for free. We should be happy by that.
The wall-e update shouldn't have been more than $5.
I'm hoping the paths will be fixed soon and borders will be able to be fused with main paths. The lack of borders was one of the main reasons I haven't yet built out all of my paths in my current world. I'm going to hold off until they get fixed to start crafting them.
And I love the star path! There's usually a few items I love out of it so it's always been worth it for me to do. I've never had to pay real money for it because I have enough moonstones from the chests and my original amount. I've never really used the motifs in the past BUT I think I'll start using them alot more now that we can craft more items.
i just don't like how they put content behind paywalls especially since the game isn't free to play yet
I just wish the star path had more items and fewer motifs but overall I love the star path. The biggest things I want changed are fixing the pathway edges to be crafted using already created pathways. And no longer having chests drop coins. I waited for months and months to finally open those chests in the forgotten lands and one of them was just coins. Chests are rare enough they should always drop a bag.
Yes, way too many motifs.
Only one chest? All my chests in forgotten lands were coins ☹️
Agreed. Crafted bordered pathways is robbery. A star path with 50% motifs is robbery.
Mine too if that makes you feel better
I think there are so many chests with coins because they are trying to reward you with coins at various points and these are the "containers" they chose to put them in. If they only put clothing or furniture packs etc. in the chests there would be fewer chests that spawn in the game. I just think a chest was a way for them to reward coins to players in different ways other than digging or removing night thorns.
I already foreshadowed that Gameloft would go back to the extreme paywall quest just like they did with Magic Kingdoms. The moment they think it goes well they will slowly go to monetize the story quests in the future.. or you would need to wait 8 years of grinding until you get the part you actually need.
Everyone coddling Gameloft doesn't realize how bad it's going to get, lol.
@P A EXACTLY! Gameloft does not need or deserve to be protected or shielded from criticism. And expressing VERY valid criticism, disappointment and anger is not the same thing as “hate.”
Gameloft does not care about those who want to coddle them, all they care about is your money. You are just a dollar sign to them, and they will take advantage of an excuse filled gamer until they get all of your money.
People making excuses and exceptions for major game corporations like Gameloft (or EA) is what leads to a great game dying. Coddling kills games. Silence kills games. Not expresing very valid disapproval kills games. If you allow them an inch, they WILL take a mile, and Gameloft already proved that to be true with Magic Kingdoms.
If people genuinely love and believe in this game, and actually want it to remain a good game longterm, they need to understand the importance of being vocal, brutally honest and boldly expressing dissatisfaction and calling out unethical practices, while also making it known when a game developer is trying to take advantage of players.
It would be different if it was a completely free game. At least then people complaining and “not being grateful” would be more unreasonable, but that’s not the case here. We are still in early access. We already paid a LOT of money for a game that is not complete and riddled with bugs, which is part of early access. What should NEVER be a part of early access, however, is taking advantage of the people who have already funded a game still in development, developers going back on things they have promised in the past, and continuing to charge OUTRAGEOUS prices for people who already paid money for a game still in development.
So technically nothing in ANY of these updates is “free.” We already paid for them when we bought the game, so it’s not like this gift they are offering out of the kindness of their hearts or something that people should “just be grateful for.” Nothing about this game has been free for anyone playing early access. When it goes free to play, that argument has more merit, but that’s not the case yet.
Paying for early access should have been the end of the pay-to-play while early access is still going. We still have to deal with numerous bugs that make certain aspects of play difficult or unplayable/impossible, and we are helping THEM by testing the game for them and reporting bugs and issues so they can fix things before the game is released. We are doing them a favor, and we had to pay to do so.
The very least they could do is wait to take advantage of people until after the game goes free-to-play. And at the very minimum prices for everything should be HEAVILY discounted for early access players. That is a fair trade off, and that is what it would look like for a developer to actually care and appreciate the founding players who are helping them develop their game, putting up with the bugs and glitches and doing a LOT that is of benefit to Gameloft.
What Gameloft is doing, just as they have done in the past, is a slap in the face. And people have a right to be upset.
I will never understand the very warped perspective people have regarding criticism towards game developers, as if we should all “just be grateful” as if a favor is being done for us, when in reality we have paid real hard earned money for something.
ANYTHING else that you buy in the world, whether that be an item from the store or hiring someone to do a service job it is normal to expect a dissatisfied customer to be vocal and complain when things have not lived up to expectations or are not what was promised. But suddenly when it’s a video game, many view all criticism, no matter how valid, to be hate and view it as being “mean” to developers.
Gameloft isn’t a charity. They are selling a product and providing a service. It’s no different than buying something online, getting it delivered, and then discovering that the item was not as described or as promised by the seller, with the seller only responding to your disappointment with additional schemes to sell you even more expensive items and take even more advantage of you and offer no returns or refunds. For any other product in that scenario, people would find that situation to be worthy of the customer being upset, angry and disappointed, yet those same people seem to view video games in the opposite way.
People have a bizarre desire and obsession to protect and sheild MAJOR corporation game developers from any and all criticism or people expressing negative opinions. Anyone rolling over for a company as big as Gameloft and making excuse after excuse for their horrid practices that take advantage of players are only ensuring that this business model becomes the new normal with all video games. That is not being helpful. That is being delusional.
Gameloft can take the heat, and they should. They don’t need people to protect them or coddle them, they need to be called out. If those coddling players enjoy being taken advantage of, that’s on them, but most of us do not enjoy that and actually want to see this game live up to its best potential. The only way to do that is through direct and vocal honesty, not making excuses or labeling everyone as “haters.”
Gameloft isn’t a charity people should “just be grateful” for, and people desperately need to stop treating it as if it is one. When you pay for a service, especially one from a major corporation worth hundreds of millions of dollars, you have a right to express your honest dissatisfaction with that service when it does not live up to what was promised. Nothing about that is hate.
I do not mind the star path or anything, I just wish you'd get more moonstone from the store. $5 for only 1200 is just not worth it, plus nothing is usually that cheap in the store, star path is usually 3,000 and change. Maybe just double it, like 2400 or something
They have said in the beginning, there will never be story or character updates where you have to pay money...just the optional stuff.
I’m in Niagara Falls (Canadian side.) They are saying tomorrow is going to be the worst day for the haze and smoke. Hopefully we can get some rain and tame these fires soon. I have never seen anything like this in my life. Stay safe everyone in Canada + New York and anywhere else dealing with this. 😢
I love the starpath but it cost me 3000 moonstones. Then I had to spend another 4000 for the wall e content. I think if they are gonna do like dlc content if you bought the top version of the game it should be included like most games do. The moonstones I think are the biggest issue. We should have a better way to earn them. I mean we sit on so many coins unless someone just started but if your playing from day one we sitting on coins. I love the update and starpath but the moonstone deal is my issue.
Typically DLCs are paid content. If you buy a deluxe or ultimate version of a base game and it includes DLCs for the first say year or x amount of DLCs, you are paying for that content up front instead of when it comes out. They typically get you enticed to do this because they offer the DLCs at a discounted rate if bought up front instead of waiting. I would not consider this Wall-E dream bundle a DLC at all. It is a short optional quest line with additional cosmetics. I'd liken it more to a seasonal event at best.
For the Wall-E quest you need to place the items by the dock on the beach where you saw Merlin and Mother Gothal talking right before this part of the quest.
Nooo, but I have built a whole market on that exact spot with Donald's houseboat on the dock 😓 and I was really happy with it as well! Guess I'll have to tear it apart for one date setup for two of my least favourite characters in the game 😝 I'll do it for Wall-E!
Thank you
Thank you so much for posting this advice!
thanks i thought it was a bug
Putting quest content behind a paywall, not a good idea. Great way to alienate a lot of players.
Not necessarily a paywall though. Can be free if you have the stones already
Just wait until they start putting quests and whole characters behind paywalls. You think people are pissed now? Wait until they have to pay $20 to add rapunzel to their game.
They already confirmed there would be character quests in the premium shop in the FAQ when the game launched
Gotta not spend money anymore and save in case an Alice character or someone else comes that I need D;
@@okgamer0128 I hate that. The game should be free to play, pay for extras like cool cosmetics or companions etc. Not pay to play (characters and quests). Not only do they put too much behind a pay wall, but the pricing structure is way too inflated to be worth it. Charging me for a wall e mini quest and outfit is rude, charging me $15 real life dollars for it is unacceptable
Starpath is underwhelming, WALL·E paid quest is bugged, borders was a huge flop, Mannequins are indoors only when we can change our clothes anywhere…Majority of features I was excited for was a huge let down. I was however surprised with the premium shop and I wish the touch of Magic had more options but maybe in the future we’ll get more furniture and clothes.
I think the prizes might be reasonable fot the free players in the future but not for the people that gave them €70 to develope the game further. I'm not buying any moonstones, so i only buy what i am really stoked about. And i grab my blue chest every day. I do always get the starpath with my moonstones, i think it's worth it.
When you look at the amount of moonstones we got from the early access, we basically did get the game for free and paid for the moonstones. However, I am with you that I won't be buying every single thing that gets released as the prices aren't justifiable. This annoys me because I'm normally a completionist but I'm not letting them scam me.
I feel this. I'm a collecter by heart. Achievement Hunter. All my potato quests are bugged too cause I had to restart. And I feel the pressure with the wall e quest. I'm at a point where I'm like. Do I continue playing knowing it is very possible that every few months there's gonna be exclusive dreamstyles and other rewards/quests?! I'm in love with the game but I simply do not have the money for stuff like this shit. They probably gonna keep doing this😅 was to be expected didn't expect being this much money though 😮
Another argument for starpath Is you have "rare items" that will never come back to the game.....people who didn't do the starpath or missed it won't have those items
this!! i missed the amusement rides and i’m so devastated! :(
Instead of nickle and dime offers in the premium shop, offer paid DLCs with substantial content worth the cost. Don't make quests/gameplay locked behind paywalls, not cool, big turnoff.
Yeah, if they wanted to charge for this stupid Wall-E line, the premium shop items should have been added to it as a bundle instead of spreading everything thin.
We should have been able just to add the little border to the actual paths ????
Yes i agree!
It seems that most of us are not just adding simple sidewalks or small paths, but we are wanting to cover larger areas with the pathing. Having to spend additional time crafting more pathing (and yes some take longer because of the materials needed) is a little annoying. I hope this is something the developers will change in the near future.
I am very happy the fires are now gone in the Forgotten Land! 😄
I’m pretty happy with this Star Path! I love the hair and outfit options, and the pet! I like motifs, especially with the new furniture options.
The fish tank has no fish in it. That was a little disappointing
I kind of think they do deserve quite a bit of hate they clearly are not listening to how expensive everything is. The community has been saying since the premium shop came out that it’s over priced. Especially in the economy we’re in right now. 15$ could be a meal to some people.
Also…does it not seem like the grass in every biome has gotten taller??? I need a freaking lawn mower.
And, Fairy Godmother’s run is hilarious. So…that’s a plus.
Yes I agree
I completely agree about the borders. I was so excited and took out all of my edging and now I have to craft everything again? Well I have a plaza full of gold and opal and I am not crafting them all again. So discouraging. I always enjoy the starpath so I don't have any complaints about that. So far I am enjoying the WallE quest but it is very expensive. It should be cheaper than 4000.
I totally agree with what you said. We don’t have to talk about the price for the wall-e quest, but this doesn’t make the update worthless. This is by far the best update we got so far and denying it just because of the wall-e pack is ridiculous.
nearly all the new stuf is behind paywall, I am not seeing "the biggest update" so far, not much has changed. I have done less with the update than ever, one storyline quest that we now have to wait till we get Godmother leveled up, starpath is the only other thing. Those that can't afford another 20 bucks for a questline got nothing. not a single thing foxed or new in store. nothing has changed. added some crafting and more items we have to hope and pray will someday show in store. I must be missing something.
@@TheREALGNoMe Leveling up Godmother is super quick by just having daily conversation and giving her daily 3 items. There is a lot of value and context from the updated story line. I love what they did with it. I'd say just keep playing and leveling her up. The initial friendship leveling of any character is super easy.
I don't know maybe it is just me, but way back in the day when Disney Infinity came out and LEGO Dimensions, I bought the initial starter pack/game and then along the way would buy the various expansion packs - toy packs etc. Heck going to a movie these days is let's say $10 for a 90 minute movie and then done and over. When framed in that context, I am not upset about the moonstone cost/need to pay/buy moonstones for various aspects.
ESP on the premium shop and dream… pack? The Wall-E one and now on the borders… this makes me feel like Gameloft actually created this game not for early access 😂 They should just do this FTP from day one , or just open the early access for few months and open to all the moment they monetise the game via premium shop and that dream thing. And phew! I just managed to create very small number of that opal path! But now gotta keep grinding and maybe only able to build proper path months.. or maybe after a year 😂 considering I don’t have much time to play. Hope they’ll find ways to meet us in the middle.
About your comments near the end: in my opinion, all the small things are actually what make up the bigger picture, so giving them negative feedback when you're unhappy with the details isn't "hate" in my opinion. Especially since they are constantly asking for feedback and bug reports. If they hype up a huge patch, like they did, and it's disappointing for a lot of reasons, like it was, I think it's good actually for the bigger picture to tell them, especially en masse, so they know they are actually problems and not just complaints from a loud few. :)
Thanks for all the updates!
I love your take on this. Games are expensive because people have absolutely no idea how much effort goes into making them. And technically we're playing a beta version so bugs and stuff are bound to happen. I think it's more than fair for extra quests and stuff that aren't part of the main storyline to be pay to play.
They already get money from moonstones and frim people buying the game
I think it's ridiculous. They obviously knew this would always be part of the plan, so they should have mentioned it from the beginning. This isn't even a realm expansion, it's a short quest line. I think it's a pretty 💩tactic to get already addicted fans to buy it. I'd never buy something like this normally but am thinking about it now. They already have their overpriced premium shop, future paid realms so this is just another cherry on top for them 🙄
@pa5666 They have. It was in the FAQ they would do paid expansions and quests after EA.
However we are still in EA and they did this, so it should still be criticized
@@okgamer0128 Well maybe it's my fault for misinterpreting it but "paid expansions and quests" sounds more like quests for new character expansions, not existing ones. That's a bit ridiculous to me. I wouldn't have cared if it was priced more appropriately. And I need to mention that this is Gameloft which is why I'm especially angry. They have a history with predatory microtransactions so I'm not giving them any leeway for excuses.
I do think they will charge us for characters in the future.
They will. Before the game even came out it said realms would be paid. They also own Disney Magic Kingdoms which charge people anywhere from $9.99-$19.99 for a SINGLE character. Mind you, the animations in that game are limited compared to Dreamlight Valley. Prepare to get bled dry.
I agree! The borders should fuse with the middle parts of the path...thats crazy.
Fortnite didn't charge people $80 (OR $40 OR $65 cad) for content to begin with. Paying for early access than paying for additional content is wrong. I have bought 4 major games in the last year, each at $80 and have not had to pay any additional extra. Look at Hogwarts; no additional DLC for your $80 CAD. Disney has only been out for 9 months. The game is in early access. Being in the future FTP doesn't matter right now when people have paid money already to play the game and were told that paying would include all updates until it did go FTP. Why don't you try and play a game without buying additional moonstones or paying premium or buying 2 or 3 different editions or having your supporters fund your game play or writing it off as a tax deduction.
well they didn't give use 20k vbucks to start with either:)
@@mrStarInSky No because evewrything was included in the game. We paid for those 20K moonstones, they put an arbitrary inflated price tag in the premium shop of what they are worth to repurchase to make dupes feel like they got a deal.
One last comment from me I promise on this video - Thank you for your videos and being honest! I enjoy them. My comments were directed at anyone just observations in the community as a while since buying the game in November 🙈
One update that has not been mentioned that I appreciate is when the game starts and shows your character the camera is not facing you now i dont have to turn around to rush to scrooges
Mine starts the way it always has..mm
I love the skin for Wallie; the sherlock holmes reference is so cute.
Also, they did say that the main storyline will be free, but the add-ons aren't.
So we don't know right now what will be considered the main storyline and what will be considered add-ons.
but they said the paid expansions wouldn't be until it went f2p
As long as characters themselves as free it's fine by me. Especially as it'll be free to play soon
@@dougtheghoul2845 Sorry to break it to you, the characters won't be free. Realms were already confirmed to be paid and that's where the rest of the characters come from. It's Gameloft's MO to edge people in slowly before putting up ridiculous paywalls. People might be fine now because of the amount of characters we have, but just imagine when it goes free. We'll get probably 1 free character per update every few months and the rest will be $20+ expansions with all the better characters. We literally see this happening in their other games. They are foul.
Exactly what pa said... It's so sad! People don't mind spending a little money but these prices are absolutely insane!!!
@@pa5666 Honestly I think it will be interesting to see what the prices are going to be. More characters more money? or will it be the same amount for every realm.
since they game has come out, I've seen a lot of entitled players and WAY more judgment and negativity to the developers even though the game is still early access and not ready yet. I see some freindly feedback and suggestions but the very vocal minority on Twitter are straight insufferable and complain all the time about EVERYTHING. I couldn't be any more happy with this game and this new update. I did go 😧 whenI saw the price for the WALL E bundle but thats the First time Ive EVER felt negative about this game and it wasn't even that big of a deal.
How many glitches have you encountered? I think it's much easier to look at the bright side when your game is actually working. Early access or not, they still paid the same amount of money we did and are not getting to play it. Thankfully, I only run into minor glitches that don't really have an impact. I hope it stays that way.
Totally agree. Gameloft doesn't deserve so much hate. The Wall - E bundle is overpriced but I am fine with it. The update as a whole is still great with the story and other features
are we gonna get the forgetting outfit? it is pretty awesome I think and would love it as a completing reward. I just hate we paid fortune and are still asked for more and more money to get cool stuff, when the store is the same, nothing fixed. Orbs still the same, I got 1 new clothing item i store and nothing new. Ton of cooking and no orbs. They are work on the paid stuff, still cannot buy the waterfall, it shows in shop and you can't buy it, you can't reorder it from inventory because it is broken. I think it is all way too expensive. The starpath is fine but I hate it has so many motifs, I am sick of motifs to be honest. They could have simpy made a border that rotates how you need it and make it connect, seems a lot easier then the way they did it. I also play TOTK and it has a ton of action, movement flashing, items and never once crashes. New update and cannot play an hour without crashing. I have more items on AC and it neveer crashes, so why limit items and use half of what I am allowed for crap that lays around, like the dang wood. I should not hve to clean up 160 pieces of wood everyday.
Okay, so I have a roleplaying character of mine as my DDV character. Everything I buy is based off her. I'm brand new to the game and this is my first update. That raven skin alone was worth it to me!
Great video. Thanks for researching, and sharing your thoughts. The pricing of free to play games is such a nuanced topic, but I really resonate with your views on the value of the game.
I love the update so far. The game still crashes frequently (I play on switch), but honestly I just save after anything that I don’t want to redo. The auto save helps a lot, too. What I am most upset about is that I didn’t understand how star paths worked, so I feel like I missed out. To be clear, I don’t blame the devs for that at all. I didn’t read the mail in super great detail, I’m sure. There’s just a lot in this game and I feel like the star path being timed got lost in all the excitement. I am a new player, still learning, but I have quickly become obsessed.
Personally I feel like the argument of “how many games give you updates like this” ignores the fact that the game is in early access. Content and quality of life updates like this are a pretty fundamental part of the early access experience. Added DLC makes sense to me once the game is fully released, but adding a new type of paid content before the game even exits early access feels weird to me.
Exactly. We've especially paid to play test the game and pay for extras we want but now also pay for dlc?! And dlc that was shown with everything else as part of the free update? Craziness.
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The starpath is ONLY a good deal cause they overprice EVERYTHING in the game and they still haven't listened to us about having too many motifs in it but I bet he won't EVER bring that up in a video 😒🙄
I say it’s worth the walle cost. Yes I get that it’s one character Skin and a few outfits for your character. But it’s actually quite a cute quest line.
It’s optional content but for me it’s worth it. For others it may not be so especially dependent on your financial situation and priorities.
Figured out how to get through the bug. Just keep picking up and placing the items. I had to wrap the 4 lights around the chairs on the same side of the table.
Again, I totally agree with you, the only thing I don’t like is that the game is less stable on Switch after every update…
I can't play my game - can't dig, mine or pick items up, there's just no text prompts and usual stuff doesn't do anything. I restarted the game but then also couldn't even pet my pet? So I can't progress the star path I paid for or progress on the fairy godmother quests. I can't even do usual game stuff because the actions just don't work? Nevermind being stuck in godmothers house as a glitch wouldn't let me leave unless I continually tried walking at the door for about 5mins. Was amazed I could pick up a memory just for it to stick on screen and I had to force close the game. So sad.
@mrstarinsky I truly love and enjoy your videos very much! My crazy job has kept me from joining in on the videos when you go live, unfortunately, but I will always watch them when I get off work. You're amazing ❤
The company has to make money. They could reduce the price, and probably sell more...but they can also have sales. As for paid content, this is from the Gameloft support site: "During the Early Access period, several updates will be released, adding new characters and story content for free. When the game is out of Early Access, we will continue adding new characters and story content for free on a regular basis.
After Early Access, we have plans to add paid expansions that will add significant content to the game. These optional expansions will add new content (including characters) to the base game. However, we are currently focusing on delivering a great, complete experience first."
I agree with you...all the hate being thrown at them is mostly from those who just don't understand how it works, or they have FOMO and are upset they have to make a choice to go without here, or on some other game.
And the game isn't even out of early access which means they already lied.
@@pa5666 I can see where some may think that, due to having a "quest"...but the quest only brings in skins and cosmetics. It is giving the buyer more for the purchase. No new characters, biomes, realms, or features. What will happen once those things are paid, and the only way to get say, Tarzan or Mary Poppins or any other character not central to the main story, and the content associated, is through a $15 purchase?
@@jimmythegeekxl My problem is only with how much it costs, not that they're charging. I would have happily paid if it were $5-8, but $15 is way too much for what we get. And the fact that they don't even allow you to purchase that much currency without forcing us to buy multiple moonstone packs is in itself another scam. Those extra characters definitely will be paid, but if they were willing to sell Wall-E (an existing character) for $15, I imagine the new characters and their associated realms to be anywhere from $20-30 each 😔😔
I liked two starpath items (scooter and fireplace) so I did get it :)
I agree on the borders. I crafted some thinking I could just pull up my edges and replace them with the border one. But then to my surprise, they didn’t even merge. And it was bugged so I’m glad to know I wasn’t doing anything wrong when placing them. But the not merging part amazed me. So I’m not doing any borders until they change it and they can merge with the already established paths.
Disney Magic Kingdoms, which is also created by GameLoft, has a ton of paid characters. I really hope they don't go down the same route with Disney Dreamlight Valley
From today's Wall-E drop, we know it's heading exactly in that direction. It really pisses me off. I wouldn't mind the paywall, but the content does not justify the price.
If ppl don’t show that their upset over a feature, game loft/Disney is going to continue with this method of even adding more pay wall-content in the future. I don’t think ppl are disregarding the great stuff that got added it’s just that they’re trying to prevent more stuff like this happening in the future lol
On the Wall-E quest “Sprouting a Story” when you find the youth potion with the curly hair (gross) I can’t progress. I tell Wall-E “I’ll see what I can find out” but Gothel doesn’t respond and the quest still tells me to go in Wall-E’s house to check on the plant. I hope this doesn’t keep Eve from arriving. Please fix this! I love the Star Path items and Wall-E’s quest. I spend a lot in Scrooge’s store on things I will never use just to see new items without a second thought. It’s an amazing game!
i dont know what people hate star path that much, this one i m not particulary exited about, not a lot of things that i like, i like the statues, but turning red not so much, but still is something to do in game
As someone who hasn’t invested in my roads AT ALL, just started placing them last week, have a very small area, and have only used free tiles that I cleaned up elsewhere; I feel very blessed 🤯🥳😇
I never had my paths bug.. and I have been using them heaps! My problem with them is you can’t just add a border to all the paths you’ve already placed.. now I have to go collect a bunch more supplies to replace all my pathing
They do deserve to get the hate. Imagine trying to get everything in the shop, the star path, AND the Wall-e quests. You are spending a TON of money for all that.
I was hyped about the boarders but now knowing that they don’t convert with the ones that I already have, sucks. Now I have to mine more just to craft on what I want to do.
I do love the starpath and I’m going to get those rewards. The ones complaining are going to be sad when it goes away and wonder where other people got the items.
I just want to add that people did the same thing with Animal Crossing and the devs just stopped with the updates because people were complaining. No more updates and now you can’t get better and newer things because they don’t want to do the updates anymore.
@@roxie0007 That is not why they stopped updating. They always had a singular path for that game. The only reason there were as many updates as there was is because the features weren't finished in time for release. And even with all those update drops, it still didn't come close to the content in New Leaf. Also, their DLC was very nicely priced. I didn't see anyone complain about it. Now compare it to this game and the problem becomes clear.
My wall e quest was also bugged the same but I figured out how to complete it. I just wound up crafting different color torches and making sure all four are different colors that I’ve placed down and after one chair was set out I went back crafted a wooden bench and it worked
My only issue with the Star path is that they put too many motifs, but it's optional.
The first Star Path duties are easy, but they get more difficult as you get new duties. I currently have a duty to pick 10 orange star lilies with Wall-E. Today I was only able to find 3. I have several duties that ask for 5 favorite gifts for specific characters, so those are 2 day duties. I also am getting start 2 discussions with specific characters, so another 2 day duty. The duty to catch 15 bass seemed to take forever because bass don’t show up very often. So I do feel like this Star Path is taking me longer to complete than the last one.
They always get more lengthy as you go along. However, there are 60 days I believe to complete it which is totally reasonable time frame. I usually have the star path completed within a week and am bored until the next update. So, I am glad there is a tiny bit of slow down as you progress or it would be over so much quicker.
It's not purely cosmetic. You get more story with Wall-e. If they had just offered a Wall-e skin and two outfits for 4k moonstones I would have been fine with it. But now I'm missing out on story content? LAME I'm the type of person who finishes the quests and star path WAY before the deadline so it's fun to have more story, more quests to do. I'm not mad at the developers they didn't decide to put it behind a pay wall. That comes from Corporate greed.
I couldn't complete it until someone said to set the items down where Merlin and Mother Gothel met & I was able to complete it. Basically close to the pier area.
Very underwhelming StarPath. Like…not much cool stuff. The storyline update is continuing to be as lame as I figured it would be. But I DO like that our different houses can be decorated different inside. I wanted that.
I completely agree! I had the best day playing this update. I absolutely LOVE this update! I trust that they’ll fix these few bugs.
The star path is one of my favorite tasks. The items are always worth the grind, but then I decorate all my rooms, and design clothing.
Pay for quests? Never. No matter how expensive or inexpensive it is. I've never paid for quests in any game, and after 47 years of gaming I won't start now... Although I do love the vintage clothing lol.
DDV is a money pit, and is the reason why I never play free games. However, DDV is beyond the average free game in that their in-game prices are outrageous.
All paid for games give massive free updates with no in-game costs, and I'm more than ready to buy DLC's. This is how other game developers make their money, and they do well. It's a shame that Gameloft chose this route instead.
I totally agree with you, Deborah! ✨✨
I feel like my biggest gripe with the Star Path is that there should be the option to not have to buy every item in the Star Path. For my personal gameplay, designing items just isn't my thing, I don't enjoy it, so I'm very unlikely to ever use motifs. I should be able to choose not to buy the motifs and instead sell back the balls (or whatever it is we're collecting) for moonstones at the end without being limited to buying every item on the Star Path. With how expensive moonstones and the premium shop are, I think that's a fair trade for those of us who don't care for certain items on the Star Path, like motifs, and would prefer to spend our moonstones on items we'll actually use in the future. But maybe that's just me and that seems unreasonable. Though I will say that the Wall-E bundle seems like a better deal to me than the house skins at least. The nightmare castle house skin is nearly the same price as the Wall-E bundle with added gameplay and multiple items. A single house skin in-game costing about $15 in real money seems even more insane to me. The way they're going about the premium shop just seems like they're shooting themselves in the foot tbh, everything is ridiculously priced but it doesn't seem like they have an actual scale to measure content (i.e. value) vs how much something costs.
I agree with you. When we initially bought the game, they were very upfront about how their business model was going to proceed. FTP with optional microtransactions. I guess some people didn't see that part. 😕
The Mickey and Minnie date is very specific to the area of the beach. My items wouldn’t register unless I set them up in the area right above the dock.
You’re also in NYC?! Stay safe, I’ve been stuck in the house due to the smoke and you/this game have been helping me have fun & keep some sanity 😅
Hey from Canada! Yesterday the outside smelled like a giant campfire
I hope that wildfire gets put out soon. Stay safe out there, girl!
If we keep saying “the devs work so hard” to justify these insane prices, they will just keep charging more and more in the future. This happens all the time but gamers don’t learn. Stop kissing devs asses and hold them accountable but that’s just me 🤷🏾 you don’t have to buy the extra stuff but them going back on a lot of things they’ve said (saying they wouldn’t start charging until after the game was completely finished, etc) isn’t a good look and very greedy. Y’all need to stop coddling corporations but that’s #justme
Normally I would agree on the devs part, but this is Gameloft we're talking about. They're a whole different kind of evil when it comes to monetization. I don't feel any pity for that company catching flack. And I'm not even sure the developers come up with the prices anyway. It has to be another sector of the company that is approving them. All love to the people working on the actual game, not the ones pulling strings.
@@pa5666mo@@pa5666me@@pa5666We are still in early access btw. @@pa5666 Even tho some games flopped bc of these practices but anyways Gamelot and everybody involved are to blame for the micro transactions, I find it hard to believe that developers actually care about people paying more for overpriced crap. I’m not going to coddle these ppl or the company sorry
@@user-jm6kc7ls2y I definitely don't disagree with you, lol. I don't think developers care either way, I was just mentioning I don't think they have a say in the prices. I really want to shake anyone in the company who thought of these ridiculous prices LOL
When I first heard about the pathway borders, I really thought we would be able to craft any border of choice (that was available), to simply add to the edge of any part of an existing pathway - this was my hope and boy was I wrong. And you would think you could simply add and remove the border easily, considering the amount of existing pathway many gamers would have already in their valleys. So I was very surprised to see that I had two options of each pathway to craft, and then not being able to even fuse them together. Im surprised you have to pick one or the other without the option of even potentially combining the two. Someone didn’t think this through.
I really wish people would give the devs their props for keeping this game going and understanding how hard they probably worked to get us everything we've been complaining about. I think they're doing amazing. And you can't please everyone.
@@Wavily I totally agree. And I think you might be generous with that $20 each estimation because if they were willing to make us pay $15 for a Wall-E side quest (a character that we already had) I can imagine the new characters will be anywhere from $25-30 when you factor in that most will be accompanied with realms and a full quest line.
Every inch of my map is covered in paths (which I had to do twice because my game reverted to the last cloud save - BEFORE all my hard work 😭). boy was I pissed when discovered the new paths!
I agree with you, a lil pricey but within any game that’s what it is to be expected.
My worry is starting to become how much will they charge for realms after we go F2P
If they charged nearly $15 for Wall-E, I can see them charging $25-30 for each realm.
The boarders should ABSOLUTELY 100% connect with the interior of the same type of path. I already got the ultimate edition. It’s too soon to be asking for so much.
The pathing situation is honestly ridiculous. I understand crafting new paths with borders on them, that's fine, but they should fuse with the original non-border pathways... having to redo ALL of our paths for new ones with bugged borders is 100% ridiculous and feels like an insult to the time people put into the game. You should play a game because you WANT to, not because a ridiculous, bugged update feature FORCES you to farm for paths again for no reason. That's not fun. Why would they do this?
It seems like they really rushed the borders out definitely with all the glitches. Waiting a couple of months would have been just fine if the borders released..actually function-able
It's unfortunate that Wall-e bundle expensive. I especially liked the new outfits.
My only issue with the pricing is that once it’s free to play all those people aren’t going to get those moonstones that we got for paying to play. With that being said I feel like it doesn’t make sense to make the prices that much because the new players are going to have to buy moonstones at some point if they want to do any of the moonstone “paid” things.
i would say not to change all of your paths wait and see if they change it to where they can merge
I’m so glad I didn’t start decorating my village I had a really funny feeling things like this were going to happen I literally have the paths we start with and I added some bits to make it a full path but that’s it, I got off so lucky compared to some
Also don't like, the new cooking format, example if want to make a fruit salad with 5 coconuts have to keep reclining and search out the coconuts all 5 times, the marker resets to the side so you can't fast click 5 coconuts in a row....
Mr. Star, they are mirroring the other game that Disney had called Disney Magic Kingdoms. It started out as an amusement park. You had to get characters and it was so hard to get coins to progress. My concern is that is the road this game is headed. I was hopeful at first, but with all of these updates, high cost of items/stories and misleading information it makes me think the next few updates are going to end up costing more. I hope I’m wrong, and I’m happy we got anything. But it just made it feel so flat after all the hype and marketing.
I'm glad you're familiar. I keep bringing it up to others because I always knew they would head in this direction eventually. Gameloft is literally the worst when it comes to monetization, borderline shady.
@@pa5666 Yeah. It’s such a bummer that it’s headed that way. Guess I’ll be going back to ACNH once this gets to a point where I can’t get anywhere anymore.
The problem with catching certain fish is that they lower the spawn rate of said fish. I have been trying to catch 15 bass since the new update and I’ve only caught 4.
They just charged way too much. If they lower all the prices like $3-5 for a set of items that would be more people to buy and they could have earned more. But now, less people willing to buy and everyone starts hating it. Not just because of the prices but also because they lied to us that they promised only cosmetic stuffs will be charged. Selling a side story quest is a bad move, it is a pay-to-win. Imagine if they sell you characters in future and for how much? Consider this is still not even a free-to-play game yet and it is already like this.
Someone would say game company still need to make money, $5 is too cheap. Think about star path. It is only few bucks and the company still make a lot of money out of it. Simply because most people do buy star path. All the other selling items should be charged in same range, $5 for one single item will be still overpriced compare to star path, unless they are super special like the castle. Compare to 100,000 people pay $5 and 1000 people pay $50, which one you earn more? And you get more and more people to play when you charge less. Tons of people would go crazy for it. Not to mention moonstone should be more easy and more way to gather as well. Or the game company wanna make no money because the pricing strategy is stupid. And I am not a hater not even a disney fan, just talking about business.
For someone saying the game have a lot of updates it deserves more. I mean, this game is not a finished game, it stills in early access, tons of bugs need to be fixed. Isn't that obviously game updates are expected. People just forgot the fact. And if you compare to other games pricing, you are spending way more in this unpolished game that you can literally buy 10+ full games instead.
Amen, finally someone who gets it! Their pricing stategy is ridiculous. Had the prices been more reasonable, I'd literally buy everything and anything. Not at these prices. The corporate heads ruin everything.
I’m sad about all the hate devs are getting. Do people not realise this kind of reaction sours things between the community and the devs so that the devs want less and less to give things to the community and then the game just dies? It honestly makes me want to buy the WALL•E bundle just to show my support to them. We got so many great free things. It’s really frustrating to be represented by such an angry, vocal mob. I hope the devs know there are players who really appreciate their work and are grateful for all the updates they’ve implemented THAT WE REQUESTED.
You can't be serious...this is a company we're talking about. A game isn't going to stop because feelings got hurt. As long as they are making money, which they will be since these prices are insane, the game is still going to go on. And they listen to our requests because that's what early access is for. They aren't doing it to make us happy, they're doing it for money. Again, because they're a company. You're really giving them too much credit. If you knew the history of Gameloft and even worse, their newer CEO, you wouldn't be coddling them like a baby.
I never said I should get anything free. I said I paid 70 dollars and I should get the same experience as everyone else such as increased item limit. I think that is a fair statement. It’s easy to make comments when you get great items from the Scrooge shop and are benefiting from the increase item limit. I stand by my statement. I like a lot of the updates, but some of the things they are doing to people who paid is unfair. PERIOD!
What doesn't make sense is that the option is still available in the Switch menu so if we're able to toggle it on and off, why did they choose to not make that an option for people to at least try? -_-