I'm 74yo and shake a bit. My golf is pretty ordinary. Well that was until I discovered your youtube tutorials on Wed night. Yesterday (Thurs) was a huge turning point in my golf. After 3 hours I was hitting the ball into the net like never before. Consistency and confidence had found a new home. This morning as I addressed the ball on the 1st Tee you could hear my mates whispers... then the sweet ball strike and the sudden disbelief. My second drive was over 200 yards middle of the fairway -it felt so good to walk past the big hitters by 20yds+. What can I say-I'm walking on air - my 89yo mate wants me to show him - it doesn't get better than that. Thank you Todd and Moe.
My points after messing with this for 10 plus years . #1 From the set up . Keep your head perfectly still and let your left knee moving to the ball bring your arm back to the back swing . Do not lose the position of the arm in relation to the body as it was in the set up .They call this your " 7" because your shoulders and left arm form a "7" . This will never change until after impact . Feel like the arm is going under not around you . Go back to what ever is comfortable . #2 Let the left knee initiate the down swing by moving to the target . Do not lose your number " 7 " or the position your arm was in relation to your chest and body and swing from inside out or to around 1 o'clock .Target being 12 o'clock . Send the butt of the club to the ball for as long as possible . This is holding your lag . Keep your left arm as straight as possible and imagine you are throwing the club at the target . Feel like you are swinging under your self . #3 After impact your right arm should be extended fully to the target when it reaches shoulder height . Straight down to 12 o'clock #4 . Do not rotate but slide during the swing and rotate after step 3 . Hope this helps .
Single plane swing is the best swing in the world once you get the mechanics down nor will take some work to learn. Been using it for 2 years and still learning but have improved exponentially. Down to a 9 handicap from a 2+. More confidence than ever and enjoying the journey.
One thing I find very unique in this concept is the "limitation" of movement. At 69, I no longer have the ROM I used to have and yet, it's SO interesting to see Moe/you limiting the entire sequence range. Up until now, I have been cognizant of how my swing is so restrictive - as in, a negative aspect of my swing. Here-in, I see a reduced ROM in Moe and yet, even later in his life, he still struck a ball enviably well. One of the greatest transitions for me will be to apply "constructive" limits to my swing, without a ball BUT with video.
Its finally starting to come together. This is my second season with single plane swing and I've shot a couple low eighties rounds and felt a little like Moe. I let the swing balance me!😁
single plane swing has allowed me to drive the ball straighter and farther than I ever have. it has done wonders for my game. it completely eliminated my slice, and given me significant distance off the tee. it was an almost instantaneous change. it just feels more natural to me. my swing feels so much more effortless, and I'm hitting the ball better
Todd, I really appreciate all of this wonderful content. I have been playing golf since I was seven years old. I had heard about Moe Norman back when I was in high school (early 90s), then recently a couple of conversations about ball striking, and the power of the internet and TH-cam, led me to you. You convinced me to give up riding the roller coaster of conventional golf and make the commitment to embrace the SPS. I have been at it for only a few weeks and am already amazed at the level of consistency. I used to shank a shot every 3 or 4 rounds, with all of the anxiety and frustration that brings. Now, nothing is ever left/right or short/long more than one club, and it is only getting better over time. What a concept! Lol. One important question for you if you have the time. I have two boys, 9 and 13, both about a year into golf. My oldest son has improved a lot in this first year, but his swing is nowhere near repeatable and I sense he will have the same lifetime of struggle I have lived through until discovering I could learn an easier way. 13 is an impressionable age unfortunately, and although I explain and show him all of the ways the SPS truly simplifies the swing, I know there is a reluctance to give it a try. Do you have any helpful tips on how to do a better sales job, for lack of a better term? ;)
Ask your kids how would they feel or what are their thoughts if they could be the one most consistent golf players w just a few changes. Intrigue them to why
Most kids just want to be "part of the gang" and be accepted by their peers. If your kids like golf and want to get better, appeal to their innate, selfish natures. Better scores (than their competition) because they will have a reliable model and if you can afford it (The price of a new driver!) video lessons from a private instructor. Best investment ever. :)
Good advice Todd. I am trying my best to set an example, at least in regard to showing how to put in the work on the positions and proper motion. When I start to get really consistent results on the course (consistency of ball striking, not necessarily scoring results), I hope that is the tipping point to get him to give it a try. Time will tell.
It doesn't take a brute to play golf,but I get a feeling watching the older Moe that he was incredibly strong the majority of his life.He had serious swing speed in his later years.
I think that, too. If you look at his hands and forearms, they look very powerful. Whilst that alone certainly doesn't account for his amazing ball striking, I'm sure it made it easier for him to execute his technique.
@@johnathanwetherill456 no he didn’t, he released earlier than most tour pros. Gripping it in the lead hand the way Moe did makes it so you have to release in order to not have a dead open clubface, he would hit everything right if he held his lag angle, Just watch some slow motion videos of Moe(there’s plenty on TH-cam) and he doesn’t retain lag, it’s especially evident in his short iron/wedge swings. Also lag isn’t necessarily what produces speed, to much lag is a thing, it’s how you retain the lag through the shot like you’ll see in almost any tour pros swing.
Todd This is very intriguing! I’ve been studying Hogans swing. A lot of folks have named Hogan, including some of the best ball strikers ever, as being the best ball striker. What is it which leads you to believe Mo was better? Not being argumentative at all, I’m just trying to figure out who I should model for me Thank you for what you do!
Been messing around with this method for awhile and working on ingraining with some time off the golf course. Very happy with my one length clubs I have been playing for about a year now. I catch my fair share of skins with some pretty good players but when I blow a hole I can blow it good. No time for practice frankly with a little practice with the short game would clean the chip and pitch shots and save some strokes . I play better when I get out of my way as a recreational weekend golfer. I get the concept but really can't get in positions I'm observing you and Moe are getting into through impact the bent knee actually makes my back hurt looking at it. Not knocking it just can't go there. Deffientlly some merit there with address position and whole piece takeaway and Moe talked about swinging in the course is pretty cool stuff. So I'm checking out my handle pivot postion it is further forward than yours for solid straight flight. I'm not to far up here in Kansas . guess I should check out what kind of deals you got in Ok and run down for the weekend.
@@ToddGravesGolf I've dissected everything in this for the past 8 months and love mainly the importance of the grip and address. There's a reason why Moe held it the way he did. I see that now. It feels amazing. Thank you for all of your efforts in explaining the genius of Moe. I think most don't take enough time to understand it fully. It takes time to piece it all together. But so worth it
I might add that for me I came up with my own prioritizing of what parts are more important then others. I believe that while all aspects of this swing are important to be aware of and understand, since the arms swing the club and the hands grip the club, I believe they have the highest priority of importance to be done correctly. I've found that for athletes with good hand eye coordination that they can accomplish the rotations and trail foot with sometimes some mistake but if the grip and arms work properly and there is a lot of practice and touch and feel that the ball can be struck consistently well by holding it properly and swinging the Arms in the proper manner in and up and vertical drop then all is amazing !
Is there a functional benefit to initially dropping under the plane on the back swing as opposed to staying on it? I might be wrong on this but DeChambeau seems to stay on it through out the backswing.
Hey Coach. Does the stabilization in the back swing and the move into the lead left knee occur because of the initiation of the swing with the knees? If so, is it the same for chip shots? Or does the weight stay completely forward with no stabilization required of the trail leg? (3 weeks into the swing, best ball striking I’ve had in 3 yrs, and I still have no clue what I’m really doing, but I’m golfing better than ever😂)waiting for your Palm Springs CA dates!!
Purchased your DVDs some years ago but never got the message from them… this video has opened my eyes again and I think I’m now understanding the swing… but two things …is the takeaway activated by the left or right side? And is the downswing left or right sided ? 🙏
Lead side definitely takes it away. The downswing is lead by the lead side but the trail side releases the club too. The swing is BOTH sided it just depends on WHEN during the swing.
Thank you… I’m going back to Moe due being 80 and have hip & joint problems… still playing off low single figures and your latest vids have explained things better than some years ago 👍
Hi Todd, I am back trying Moe's swing! I noticed Moe points his iron clubs towards his intended target on his follow through, yet when he played his woods, he actually closed (arms crossed over) in his follow through! I took his swing onto the course today and I started of great, but felt I was losing distance, so by the time I reached the 11th, I switched back to having the shaft/grip in my fingers and sad to say - I played better! Maybe I need to take the huge leap in fitting thicker grips in what Moe had, I think that is the key to be able to swing/play like Moe! But then if it doesn't work for me, then am left with bigger grips that do not fit in my fingers!
@@alancarlyon3928 No he did not. I have his clubs and I played with Moe for years. HE did not hold the club in the palms and did not have oversized grips. Here is a picture. Overlapping Grip and Regular sized grips. www.thefeelingofgreatness.com
Thanks, Todd! I love your pragmatic approach. Golf, like life is not easy is not easy, but you have shown us there are real practical ways to make it much more predictable and repeatable!
Can someone please answer this question because I am not sure. Here is my question : Do you think Moe could accurately breakdown his own swing so analytically and a strong understanding of body mechanics ?
Hi Todd this is Luke from Gibbon Nebraska when I'm videoing my swing I have a limited space which position of the video is better the front view or behind View thanks
We are "vectors" for transmitting energy from our bodies to the golf ball through the golf club. When we are correctly "aligned", that transmission results in correct contact with maximum effect for minimum effort. I personally like the sound of the club accelerating through the ball, compressing it against the club during impact. A resounding "thwack" as the ball flies away, straight and long. The feeling of greatness, on many levels. Thanks Todd, your instruction and my hard work have paid dividends.
If I could just get consistent with the driver!..... all my clubs are getting way better! Great height, straight and super far!!!! With my Rogue X irons I get ridiculous distance. At times I gotta club down like 2 levels compared to my peers
I have been following this for the past month or so and I have shot my best rounds in the last 25 years. However , found myself now hitting off the toe . It is going straight however losing distance. Any suggestion ?
Yes. We have an online coaching program (Single Plane Academy). You send videos of your swing and we instruct you online. You also get access to watch.gravesgolf.com / our online instruction programs. Email me at toddg@gravesgolf.com if you are interested.
I had to cancel my gold membership. My coach didn't help me at all. All has been through videos, trial and error and using some of the tools they sell. Oh and the new version of their grips is amazing
You can go there now. We have inventory. Thanks. Todd shop.gravesgolf.com/collections/full-swing-training-aids/products/alignment-ball-position-trainer?_atid=tZKHVffSJc16dsGEw1kp05tzlbkk3K
I noticed one most important part which is not emphasizes by you is how Moe grip the club ,I have tried his grip which is great but your grip is different from Moe which result in how you finished quite different .Please diagnose my comment .
Todd - Haven't seen you for a while; I see a bit more weight on your frame; congrats on your marriage. I gained 20 lbs my first year married to my wife. My wife is such a great cook and baker. captski
@@ToddGravesGolf you ever watch my swing evolution? check it out he is a proponent of OTT swing, moe's initial direction on the transition, his hands appear to make that move. it's not a bad thing, he's always been my favorite! he's inside to out, ever so slightly.
I'm 74yo and shake a bit. My golf is pretty ordinary. Well that was until I discovered your youtube tutorials on Wed night. Yesterday (Thurs) was a huge turning point in my golf. After 3 hours I was hitting the ball into the net like never before. Consistency and confidence had found a new home.
This morning as I addressed the ball on the 1st Tee you could hear my mates whispers... then the sweet ball strike and the sudden disbelief. My second drive was over 200 yards middle of the fairway -it felt so good to walk past the big hitters by 20yds+.
What can I say-I'm walking on air - my 89yo mate wants me to show him - it doesn't get better than that. Thank you Todd and Moe.
Great!
@ilove2watch100 is it still going well for you?
I live moe and Todd day after day for a year now learned more in last year than I did in 22 years of golf
Started the Moe Norman swing last year and have already shot par golf. Also steady shooting in the mid-high 70s. GG Moe and Graves
What hándicap were you before?
My points after messing with this for 10 plus years . #1 From the set up . Keep your head perfectly still and let your left knee moving to the ball bring your arm back to the back swing . Do not lose the position of the arm in relation to the body as it was in the set up .They call this your " 7" because your shoulders and left arm form a "7" . This will never change until after impact . Feel like the arm is going under not around you . Go back to what ever is comfortable . #2 Let the left knee initiate the down swing by moving to the target . Do not lose your number " 7 " or the position your arm was in relation to your chest and body and swing from inside out or to around 1 o'clock .Target being 12 o'clock . Send the butt of the club to the ball for as long as possible . This is holding your lag . Keep your left arm as straight as possible and imagine you are throwing the club at the target . Feel like you are swinging under your self . #3 After impact your right arm should be extended fully to the target when it reaches shoulder height . Straight down to 12 o'clock #4 . Do not rotate but slide during the swing and rotate after step 3 . Hope this helps .
mike austin swing
Single plane swing is the best swing in the world once you get the mechanics down nor will take some work to learn. Been using it for 2 years and still learning but have improved exponentially. Down to a 9 handicap from a 2+. More confidence than ever and enjoying the journey.
One thing I find very unique in this concept is the "limitation" of movement. At 69, I no longer have the ROM I used to have and yet, it's SO interesting to see Moe/you limiting the entire sequence range. Up until now, I have been cognizant of how my swing is so restrictive - as in, a negative aspect of my swing. Here-in, I see a reduced ROM in Moe and yet, even later in his life, he still struck a ball enviably well. One of the greatest transitions for me will be to apply "constructive" limits to my swing, without a ball BUT with video.
Its finally starting to come together. This is my second season with single plane swing and I've shot a couple low eighties rounds and felt a little like Moe. I let the swing balance me!😁
Now were talkin’
single plane swing has allowed me to drive the ball straighter and farther than I ever have. it has done wonders for my game. it completely eliminated my slice, and given me significant distance off the tee. it was an almost instantaneous change. it just feels more natural to me. my swing feels so much more effortless, and I'm hitting the ball better
Todd, I really appreciate all of this wonderful content. I have been playing golf since I was seven years old. I had heard about Moe Norman back when I was in high school (early 90s), then recently a couple of conversations about ball striking, and the power of the internet and TH-cam, led me to you. You convinced me to give up riding the roller coaster of conventional golf and make the commitment to embrace the SPS. I have been at it for only a few weeks and am already amazed at the level of consistency. I used to shank a shot every 3 or 4 rounds, with all of the anxiety and frustration that brings. Now, nothing is ever left/right or short/long more than one club, and it is only getting better over time. What a concept! Lol. One important question for you if you have the time. I have two boys, 9 and 13, both about a year into golf. My oldest son has improved a lot in this first year, but his swing is nowhere near repeatable and I sense he will have the same lifetime of struggle I have lived through until discovering I could learn an easier way. 13 is an impressionable age unfortunately, and although I explain and show him all of the ways the SPS truly simplifies the swing, I know there is a reluctance to give it a try. Do you have any helpful tips on how to do a better sales job, for lack of a better term? ;)
Ask your kids how would they feel or what are their thoughts if they could be the one most consistent golf players w just a few changes. Intrigue them to why
Most kids just want to be "part of the gang" and be accepted by their peers. If your kids like golf and want to get better, appeal to their innate, selfish natures. Better scores (than their competition) because they will have a reliable model and if you can afford it (The price of a new driver!) video lessons from a private instructor. Best investment ever. :)
Set an example. That is the best teacher. Help when they ask. Struggle is a teacher. Let them struggle. People only learn when they are ready.
Good advice Todd. I am trying my best to set an example, at least in regard to showing how to put in the work on the positions and proper motion. When I start to get really consistent results on the course (consistency of ball striking, not necessarily scoring results), I hope that is the tipping point to get him to give it a try. Time will tell.
That was awesome. I learned so much. Can't wait to go back and practice!!!!
It doesn't take a brute to play golf,but I get a feeling watching the older Moe that he was incredibly strong the majority of his life.He had serious swing speed in his later years.
He held his lag for ever . Thats where the speed comes from .
I think that, too. If you look at his hands and forearms, they look very powerful. Whilst that alone certainly doesn't account for his amazing ball striking, I'm sure it made it easier for him to execute his technique.
How far did Moe hit his drives?
@@dukeblair7792 There are stories of him aiming at and hitting 250 yard markers, so has to be at least that far.
@@johnathanwetherill456 no he didn’t, he released earlier than most tour pros. Gripping it in the lead hand the way Moe did makes it so you have to release in order to not have a dead open clubface, he would hit everything right if he held his lag angle, Just watch some slow motion videos of Moe(there’s plenty on TH-cam) and he doesn’t retain lag, it’s especially evident in his short iron/wedge swings. Also lag isn’t necessarily what produces speed, to much lag is a thing, it’s how you retain the lag through the shot like you’ll see in almost any tour pros swing.
Todd you have helped me so much with the single plane swing. TY 😀⛳
I feel every shot I play
It stays the same all the time nomatter what club you use
And the feel is the greatest discovery
Man what a feeling
Todd
This is very intriguing!
I’ve been studying Hogans swing.
A lot of folks have named Hogan, including some of the best ball strikers ever, as being the best ball striker. What is it which leads you to believe Mo was better? Not being argumentative at all, I’m just trying to figure out who I should model for me
Thank you for what you do!
Been messing around with this method for awhile and working on ingraining with some time off the golf course. Very happy with my one length clubs I have been playing for about a year now. I catch my fair share of skins with some pretty good players but when I blow a hole I can blow it good. No time for practice frankly with a little practice with the short game would clean the chip and pitch shots and save some strokes . I play better when I get out of my way as a recreational weekend golfer. I get the concept but really can't get in positions I'm observing you and Moe are getting into through impact the bent knee actually makes my back hurt looking at it. Not knocking it just can't go there. Deffientlly some merit there with address position and whole piece takeaway and Moe talked about swinging in the course is pretty cool stuff. So I'm checking out my handle pivot postion it is further forward than yours for solid straight flight. I'm not to far up here in Kansas . guess I should check out what kind of deals you got in Ok and run down for the weekend.
Great stuff as always!
Thanks
@@ToddGravesGolf
I've dissected everything in this for the past 8 months and love mainly the importance of the grip and address. There's a reason why Moe held it the way he did. I see that now. It feels amazing. Thank you for all of your efforts in explaining the genius of Moe. I think most don't take enough time to understand it fully. It takes time to piece it all together. But so worth it
I might add that for me I came up with my own prioritizing of what parts are more important then others. I believe that while all aspects of this swing are important to be aware of and understand, since the arms swing the club and the hands grip the club, I believe they have the highest priority of importance to be done correctly. I've found that for athletes with good hand eye coordination that they can accomplish the rotations and trail foot with sometimes some mistake but if the grip and arms work properly and there is a lot of practice and touch and feel that the ball can be struck consistently well by holding it properly and swinging the Arms in the proper manner in and up and vertical drop then all is amazing !
The secret in Within and Without you
Is there a functional benefit to initially dropping under the plane on the back swing as opposed to staying on it? I might be wrong on this but DeChambeau seems to stay on it through out the backswing.
The club should naturally be under and parallel to the plane in the backswing.
Hey Coach. Does the stabilization in the back swing and the move into the lead left knee occur because of the initiation of the swing with the knees? If so, is it the same for chip shots? Or does the weight stay completely forward with no stabilization required of the trail leg? (3 weeks into the swing, best ball striking I’ve had in 3 yrs, and I still have no clue what I’m really doing, but I’m golfing better than ever😂)waiting for your Palm Springs CA dates!!
Great lesson, puts it all together.
Purchased your DVDs some years ago but never got the message from them… this video has opened my eyes again and I think I’m now understanding the swing… but two things …is the takeaway activated by the left or right side?
And is the downswing left or right sided ? 🙏
Lead side definitely takes it away. The downswing is lead by the lead side but the trail side releases the club too. The swing is BOTH sided it just depends on WHEN during the swing.
Thank you… I’m going back to Moe due being 80 and have hip & joint problems… still playing off low single figures and your latest vids have explained things better than some years ago 👍
Hi Todd, I am back trying Moe's swing! I noticed Moe points his iron clubs towards his intended target on his follow through, yet when he played his woods, he actually closed (arms crossed over) in his follow through! I took his swing onto the course today and I started of great, but felt I was losing distance, so by the time I reached the 11th, I switched back to having the shaft/grip in my fingers and sad to say - I played better! Maybe I need to take the huge leap in fitting thicker grips in what Moe had, I think that is the key to be able to swing/play like Moe! But then if it doesn't work for me, then am left with bigger grips that do not fit in my fingers!
My club is in the fingers. And single plane.
@@ToddGravesGolf That's odd, as Moe held the club in his palm with oversize grips!
@@alancarlyon3928 No he did not. I have his clubs and I played with Moe for years. HE did not hold the club in the palms and did not have oversized grips. Here is a picture. Overlapping Grip and Regular sized grips. www.thefeelingofgreatness.com
Todd loving this concept but getting stuck with a hook? Can you help?
do you have school in canada 🇨🇦
Great. So does your side bend change the distribution of your weight on any part of your body during your swing. (I mean any part of your body.)
sidebend changes throughout the swing and yes, the weight distribution changes as well
What about ball position? Do you play every shot off your front foot? Do u play PW off back foot & Driver In front?
Here's the explanation th-cam.com/video/PCXiIp7YUWs/w-d-xo.html
Thanks, Todd! I love your pragmatic approach. Golf, like life is not easy is not easy, but you have shown us there are real practical ways to make it much more predictable and repeatable!
Thanks. I agree.
Great information
Can someone please answer this question because I am not sure. Here is my question : Do you think Moe could accurately breakdown his own swing so analytically and a strong understanding of body mechanics ?
I hear you or other signal plane swings say to be in a squatting position at start to finish. Not sure if you got a video on that
Hi Todd this is Luke from Gibbon Nebraska when I'm videoing my swing I have a limited space which position of the video is better the front view or behind View thanks
Depends on what you’re modeling - initially I study down the line
Do the Lie Angles all need to be the same for this method of swing ?
We are "vectors" for transmitting energy from our bodies to the golf ball through the golf club. When we are correctly "aligned", that transmission results in correct contact with maximum effect for minimum effort. I personally like the sound of the club accelerating through the ball, compressing it against the club during impact. A resounding "thwack" as the ball flies away, straight and long. The feeling of greatness, on many levels. Thanks Todd, your instruction and my hard work have paid dividends.
If I could just get consistent with the driver!..... all my clubs are getting way better! Great height, straight and super far!!!! With my Rogue X irons I get ridiculous distance. At times I gotta club down like 2 levels compared to my peers
I have been following this for the past month or so and I have shot my best rounds in the last 25 years. However , found myself now hitting off the toe . It is going straight however losing distance. Any suggestion ?
Yes. We have an online coaching program (Single Plane Academy). You send videos of your swing and we instruct you online. You also get access to watch.gravesgolf.com / our online instruction programs. Email me at toddg@gravesgolf.com if you are interested.
I had to cancel my gold membership. My coach didn't help me at all. All has been through videos, trial and error and using some of the tools they sell. Oh and the new version of their grips is amazing
Would urge you to explore promoting your single plane swing in India, I have been a top amateur and could help.
How exactly do I do that?
Amazing person.
Would it be possible to use AI to analyze the swing like the Trackman creates ball data?
Todd.
I bought 2 swing trainer boards. Both stolen. Went to buy #3. You are out. Are you getting more?
Email me at toddg@gravesgolf.com - thanks
You can go there now. We have inventory. Thanks.
Todd
shop.gravesgolf.com/collections/full-swing-training-aids/products/alignment-ball-position-trainer?_atid=tZKHVffSJc16dsGEw1kp05tzlbkk3K
Why are not more tour players using this?
On a few occasions, I get a lot of hits off the toe. How do I correct this.
Keep forward tilt. You may be coming out of it
Does your swing model require you to play clubs that are more upright in lie
My Clubs are custom fit to my swing. IF you measured my clubs against the "standard" they are 2 degrees flat.
Without the sensors attached to the body or the club
What is covered in your 1 day class ?
I noticed one most important part which is not emphasizes by you is how Moe grip the club ,I have tried his grip which is great but your grip is different from Moe which result in how you finished quite different .Please diagnose my comment .
I’ll diagnose it. You’re wrong.
Tood how am I hitting the ball way to high
Check ball position and stance width. If you ball is too far forward or stance is too wide, this can cause the ball to go too high.
Todd - Haven't seen you for a while; I see a bit more weight on your frame; congrats on your marriage. I gained 20 lbs my first year married to my wife. My wife is such a great cook and baker. captski
moe's actualy over the top 6:54
I disagree. This is the natural movement of motion. Over the top is a conventional swing term. Moe’s swing is natural not manipulated.
@@ToddGravesGolf you ever watch my swing evolution? check it out he is a proponent of OTT swing, moe's initial direction on the transition, his hands appear to make that move. it's not a bad thing, he's always been my favorite! he's inside to out, ever so slightly.
@@kipkapper3014 th-cam.com/video/GsSdp3aoGhY/w-d-xo.html
@@kipkapper3014 th-cam.com/video/HDmujDFyl8U/w-d-xo.html
Moe eliminated the ground as a problem
Ive been working at this, but the ball just doesn't go far like 120 yard for a 5 iron, 175 for driver moe obviously is a lot stronger than me
Length (distance) comes from proper technique. Are you positive you are doing it correctly?
Mows hands never ever passed his belly button
Fact
Not sure what that means...fact.
hes like a info commercial the way he sells. hes got a different swing but a b.s way to sell it. to bad
He. You mean me.