The Rise & Fall of CYBERPUNK anime
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ค. 2024
- A look through the history of the Cyberpunk anime genre, from Akira to cyberpunk edgerunners.
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00:00 PART 1
15:17 Oshii Pitch
16:53 PART 2
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Music
snatcher audio
T-9508G_MX1
One Night In Neo Kobe City
Karl Casey - Dark Synthwave Collection Vol. 2 - 14 Wicked City
Nihilore - Katabasis
Umurangi Generation
i cri in da club
The Bottom Barrel Baby Boys
Silver Gate
Kusabi
Kusabi (2nd ver.)
Furuya (Unused, 1st ver.)
smt3 Jewelry RAG
mgs4 Love Theme
I love oshii so much so that's something I'd absolutely go crazy over. It would be awesome if you went into some of the live action films he worked on too like Avalon
Great video, man! Question: what's the track that starts playing at 9:34? I've looked through your music list, but I couldn't find it.
@@TheDigitalArcanist katabasis
@@Stevem Ha, ok, but like, there's a band named Katabasis, and multiple bands who have done a track named Katabasis, and I haven't found the one you used yet, lol.
@@TheDigitalArcanistto be honest I lost the name of the group myself lol but just found it, it's a free song under the artist nihilore
It never fell off. Just wasn’t long enough. We need more cyberpunk anime
no let it remain a cult classic vibe
I don’t even know if you can say it fell off if it won Anime of the Year over Demon Slayer and Attack on Titan. It was big, everyone watched it, more anime came out. We aren’t going to watch the same anime over and over again until we die. There’s more to see.
@@creatorsfreedom6734 Elevate it to Cowboy Bebop status? Smart.
Cyberpunk deserves a _Renaissance_
who knows what the future brings
Wasn't that kind of how they sold the Deus Ex prequels?
No it does not. We have an oversaturation of the genre in media, and the genre itself has been appropriated by the kind of organisations that it speaks against.
Like a _Second Renaissance_ ?
It never fell. Throughout the years, I've seen movies and stories that are undoubtedly cyberpunk. I see it even more in recent years.
There was an old 90's American animated show called Spicy City that came out in 1997. It was on HBO and was created by cult American animator Ralph Bakshi (Fritz the Cat, Wizards, American Pop, Lord of the Rings, Cool World) and was all Cyberpunk. I remember one episode being about two people meeting in a virtual space who fell in love but were complete opposites in real life. They ended up dying but had their memories and souls kept alive in the virtual program. Very cool stuff even back then.
i guess at the times there were a fair few american or otherwise cyberpunk shows like Aeon Flux etc
Moenvision is a yt channel that posted spicy city if u want to rewatch.
After reading this comment I watched all of Spicy City, it really is cyber punk of the hood. I find funny how an episode like "Manos hands" is played out, a Japanese animation with that same story line would have been more existential. In spicy city its just a mafia misadventure hahahaha
I believe it was aired on Adult Swim, the late night programming on CARTOON NETWORK.
You're slowly turning into Kavinsky.
lol
A series about Oshii would be awesome
you know what to do !
His recent anime series The Fire Hunter had epic worldbuilding and characters but was tragically under-funded and the inconsistent animation art and frequent use of still images shows. Still worth a watch IMO
@@hitachicordobait wasn't technically his but he had a part in the production it was an adaptation but one without a production committee hence why it was a fairly limited show
I'll watch it fanatically
@@Stevem that's interesting info, it was only anime worth watching last year, it was somewhat convoluted but enjoyable (it's hard to find relatable anime when you're in the late 30s, like I don;t want to wrap myself up in the nostalgia cocoon and on the other hand, I'm not teenager anymore and there's full blown up war right beside the border)
Cyberpunk isn't fun when the fiction is taken out of science-fiction.
Sadly, we are the only generation that actually got what we were promised. Cyberpunk dystopia
@@justinfrancis2644Idk, we didn’t even get the cool neon cities or useful cybernetics.
Some rich jerk can unlock his door with his palm, that’s about it.
We just got the dystopia
@@piedpiper1172 yea more or less
As always, you produce top-quality content. I'm constantly looking forward to when a new video drops. Well done, my man!
Thank yoU!
My favourite genre made by my favourite youtuber
glad you enjoyed
Fantastic video as always. I think the appeal of cyberpunk even beyond the detective noir is that one can take a true story and apply fictional/fantastical elements to emphasize the bleak reality. Thanks to its future setting, unlike fantasy which is usually set in the past, this seems plausible and we are more receptive of it.
I recently watched Dennou Coil and loved it. And at the time (2004 methinks?) I think the glasses could have been an imagining of if we were actually able to fit a computer on our head and the addiction of computer usage which I think was already there in 2004. Of course there are many other themes, but I want to point out that the cyberpunk element takes
something real (computers) and imagines it as future technology. Surprisingly today, there are genuine attempts in AR technology. I suppose that most of these hyperreal anime genuinely try to warn us of something based on the roots that the creators see taking place.
most of time theyre more wrong then right, but when theyre right we pay attention
I feel like you touched on this briefly but watching this and noticing (now that you brought it up) the significant drop in cyberpunk anime it really does fell like maybe one of the big reasons we moved from cyberpunk is because we've already reached and to a degree surpassed the genre and its a nostalgia... but not for the 80's genre but for a time when we could look at this fantastical dystopian future rather than the disappointing dystopian reality we're stuck in.
Like if medical costs are so exorbitant I really need a street doc the least I can get is cybernetic arm out of it, but no - all we get is Canadian insulin
trends are always moving for sure
You brought up every single cyberpunk ova, movie, or series i’ve ever seen. I love your videos.
Thank you,
There's probs more to mention texhnolyze, azuma drive, ergo proxy etc but I tried to show an eclectic selection
Really wish this video got to the 10k likes... An Oshii retrospective would be amazing.. talking about some of my favorite anime of the 90s and early aughts.. always appreciate your historical perspectives.. keep up the great work.
Fantastic deep dive as always! I always learn things that I didn't even know I didn't know from these videos. While also the information feels familiar and friendly. Can't wait for the next one
glad you enjoyed!
Really cool video. I’ve been developing my own cyberpunk project for a few years now, and I love videos like this that give context to the genre, both so I can pay homage to the greats while avoiding ground that’s already well tread
Well I hope it can help 🤞
Just realized I've been following your videos for years. Awesome stuff man keep it up 👍🏿
thank you!!!
your videos are incredible, I love the way you narrate and how you manage to put a bunch of information in such short videos (I know for some 35 mins may seem like long in nowadays internet but these are complex topics that cover more than 40 years of history, sumarizing that in 35 minutes is definitely hard). Keep it up!! When I find a new job I'll join your patreon!! (Nowadays the argentinian peso is pretty fucked up to pay monthly in us dollars lmao)
I appreciate the comment and support thank you very much !
as always, thank you for a wonderful video! this might be my favourite genre of all time (put neon lights and give me corporate/class struggle and im there), and i was so excited to see the release on patreon. a really cool dive into the genre's history, and definitely have a few things to check out.
As a cyberpunk fan since the late 80s, I can recommend some recent anime: Blade Runner Blackout 2022 and Black Lotus, Akudama Drive, Vivy Fluorite Eyes, The Gene of AI, Yurei Deco, Deca-Dence, Altered Carbon: Resleeved, Pluto and less recently Time of Eve, Planetarians and Ergo Proxy
You're very welcome!
It is always worth waiting for the next Stevem video.
Thanks for the shout out! 🙇
Any time!
I will always love the work you put into these man, I know it must take a lot of time and effort, absolutely love the sketches and narration as well, keep it coming
thank you!!!!!
So many classics displayed. Amazing video
Thanks so much!!
great stuff as always, thanks stevem
Very welcome!!!!
Ugh, your video essays/informationals are SO GOOD! You deserve more followers but I'm glad to see a healthy Patreon community. Do what you love! Keep it up!
thanks for the support!
I love how I always learn some new shit every time I watch one of your videos
I'm glad!
Thank you oh so much for putting the sources of these clips. Not nearly enough people do that
youre welcome!
You’re always outdoing yourself on every video man. I don’t think it’s about how good it does viewer wise (even though that does majorly help) but the amount of time & energy you put into every topic.. it’s astonishing. You are an inspiration & I’m not even working in the same field 😅
I appreciate that!
Hella interesting Video and good work. Thanks for this!
thank yoU!
As always great video Steve. Keep up the great work
(I don’t know why but the sound in this video is extra clean and crisp. I like it)
I was softer on post processing the audio i guess the preamp does and interface do most of the work so I just work on the levels now
Thank you.. this video is so amazing.. seeing all the anime listed took me back to my childhood.. in the UK, anime in the 80's and early 90's was such a small niche genre, I was absolutely addicted and would try and get my hands on as much as possible.. I wonder whether there could be a cyberpunk renaissance.
Don't know really the popular ips are still going but it would depend on wheres the money and staff coming from
I’ve used your videos like a quasi fine arts survey course over the past couple years; the ones you select are in my opinion; are usually the best entry into that genre. The first anime I picked to watch at the age of 30 was Knights of Sidonia; that was a few years ago. Just wanted to say your efforts are much appreciated. You always have a few that I haven’t seen yet; and they’re always worth checking out.
Glad you're digging it there's probs more worth checking out than what I could stack in here of course!
Knights was my first anime too! Also around 30.
I really liked it at first, but then it got just… super weird about women. By season 2 it felt like a harem thing and I had to just check out. A shame it didn’t stick to such a compelling premise instead of… what ever it became
This was not the video I thought it was would be watching but the video that I didn’t know I needed to see 👍 great video
thank you!"
Thanks for this very well made quality feature, man.
No problem!
I think I'm gonna watch every video you mentioned to refresh all the feelz & zeel.
good luck!
Thanks for this! Loved your last vid! I have also live-translated huge parts of your last Ghibli video to my 10year old son (English 2 Finnish). Keep up the great work!
That is awesome! hope they enjoyed
You are really a quality anime channel. Both in production, and most importantly: research.
Thank you!
Thanx for the good work. Many times I'd wonder if you would leave something out, only for it to show up a minute or so later, and then you'd go on to remind me of something I had forgotten about. =)
Glad you enjoyed!
I’m not even finished with this video yet, but I have to write this: this is an incredible essay.
Everything about it. I don’t know how you don’t have a million subscribers. You are criminally underrated. Please keep making content, and I’m going to tell everyone I know about your channel!
Thanks so much, that kinda stuff really helps so i appreciate it !
Very good review of these cyberpunk works; would add Silent Möbius as well
Long time fan of the genre, read lots of novels and I have a nice collection of cyberpunk anime, you got a new subscriber right here...by the way I respect someone who remembers Armitage III
Glad you enjoyed
thanks for making this specially for me
lol youre welcome
Its your first compilation video where i have seen everything, even that red rouge
quite the accomplishment since there's a lot of titles and clips in this video
amazing, steve.. really. thank you!
no problem!
Well done on yet another banger. Admittedly I wasn’t totally familiar with the genre outside of a few obvious things but this has certainly piqued my interest. I’m definitely going to watch some of the examples you’ve shown here.
Im glad it peaked your interest !
Dennou Coil mentionned, I'm so happy, this work is fondamental to all my thinking about technology
As far as AR in anime it's certainly one of the most interesting
@@Stevem I love how the series elaborates on an idea that beyond our understanding of the techology there is a layer of supernatural. (A bit like Dimension W, a sci-fi manga/anime)
yeah its kinda interesting how tech mixes with folklore, even that shrines are free of certain influence
Bruh this is perfect im having terrible dental pain so this is perfectly timed i can forget about it and chill
I prescribe copious amounts of whisky applied to affected area as needed.
hope it helpss
Beautiful video
thank you ^^
Hell yeah man I'm gonna look a lot of these up. I haven't explored this genre much since my mid 20s
hope you enjoy!
@@Stevem blame mentioned! Immensely!
You've reminded me to watch Metallic Rouge. Thanks.
It's a bit contentious haha but it's interesting to see an new IP coming in
your art is getting better. Great work on the video.
Thank you very much!
I worked part time at a video store in the early 90's. Manga was being marketed to video rental throughout the U.S. and the tie ins with comic books announced when Cyberpunk films would hit theatres. Believe me, the producers knew what markets they were going after. The response from the public was predictable, but product had a hard time keeping up with demand. I had to travel from Rochester, N.Y. to Cleveland, Ohio just to see the premiere of AKIRA. And that was shown at a planetarium. Very cool ! Later on new companies started handling distribution to get product into the hands of customers.
that sounds quite nice, to watch the film is a planetarium, but yeah they also knew what they were doing over here they actively insighted some controversies for publicity
When you were talking about Lain, which I still haven't seen, I wondered if you would mention Den-noh Coil. I only watched it last year but was surprised how many of its concepts are now pretty much available in VR and AR. I really liked its darker undertones, and how the soul or mind could be locked in a digital world, only for the body to be left as an empty vessel in the real world.
yeah its certainly concepts that have been around in fiction for a good while, though theyre a bit more doable now
Your probably the first TH-camr I've ever heard mention Malice@doll! I picked that up a few years ago from a CEX, not knowing anything about it. But when I saw that Chiaki Konaka worked on it (Serial Experiment Lains, Armitage III, Vampire Princess Miyu etc) I was immediately intrigued. Have to say it's quite the underrated, misunderstood and trippy gem. I think some people may have criticized the ps1 looking animation, until you realise they were actually playing into the limitations of CGI at the time to create a kinda Stop-motion-esk CGI look, that seems appropriate given the setting and the Androids being in states of disrepair - thus their clunky walks etc. Definitely an animation worthy of discussion. Great video, I enjoyed watching! :)
yeah they wanted it to look like Czech animation, they also draw on the top, it creates a unique look
@@Stevem oh awesome! So kind of like Jan Svankmajer's "Alice" from 1988(?) The stop motion in that was sure unsettling. An oh right okay, I did notice more of a drawn look towards the end of Malice@doll, especially some of the close-ups, and the end sequence where she is flying away, looked visually fantastic. Never knew thats how they pulled it off though, and great to see them trying to innovate like that. I'd love to see a high resolution version.
@@AniFAE_Productions there's a dvd version but that's a question i suppose it all depends if they still have the masters and files from the show or not if so they could rerender them out at a higher res if not making a hd version becomes a bit tricky
This was really good
thank you!
Beautifully done 👍
Thank you!
Great stuff. Hello from Glasgow
Hello there!
Great video dude!
Thanks!
Greatness as always
thank you!!!
Ridley Scott was in Hong Kong a few months before starting to work on Blade Runner. The rainy dark city is really LA in a not too far Future. I remember the influence of Japan in the early 80's. The future was dirty and worn in Scotts's vision.
He's made some ungraceful remarks about his time there for sure
I just recently started playing cyberpunk- figured it was a finished product finally- and it has pulled me into the genre. I had watched edgerunners previously and ADMITTEDLY I have adored the tie-ins. But it's not like the game doesn't stand on its own (now). I want to check out some of these older works you're bringing up- I vaguely remember seeing some of them as a younger lad. It's a difficult genre sometimes though when reality is beginning to feel closer and closer to cyberpunk.
Is exgerunners set before or after the game?
I’m planning to play the game for the first time using he VR mod once the PSVR2 PC adapter comes out in a month or so. I’d watch the show, but don’t want any game spoilers since I’ve dodged them this long
it's set before i think
@@Stevem thanks!
All those great anime could never be made in current Japan, how sad...
they were barely made during the time periods frankly
@@Stevem the closer our reality comes to that dystopia, the more people prefer to be isekaied.
Also, waiting for a let's play of metal gear 3 delta, when it comes out :)
@@lupinsensei7456 youll never catch me playing that lol
@@Stevem I know, it was a joke
@@lupinsensei7456 I was just thinking about that. Theres like 2 constants.... 1. the big trend at the time actually sucked, but 2. in the context of things, makes perfect sense. The 90s were a period of explosive experimentation following a period "complacency" for lack of a better word. The "Punk" in Cyberpunk being the embodiment of postulations for technology upsetting the norms of a stable, but arguably stifling period in history.
Now that technology, despite still advancing at a rapid pace, its creating a new form of cultural stagnation. Fantasy is escapism; hopeful at best, toxic at worst. Popular in times of strife. Science Fiction, and the various punk sub-genres, are often cautionary in nature. Hopeful at best, prophetic at worst. Popular in times of stability, when we don't know what to do with ourselves.
So color me surprised when the top 2 anime for this year are Slice of Life Fantasy anime, both being a direct response to the trend of isakai power fantasy.
I can easily see this coming full circle back to SciFi again, when we're done wishing for the presumed simplicity of fantasy settings (see cottage core).
top content, as always!
thank you!
How you dare make me remember Snatcher soundtrack, by putting it in the background ;)
banging game
Oshii but you need to do a follow up when Angel's Egg drops in western theatres
You mean a rerelease, or is there a very ill advised live action remake looming that I haven't heard of?
I say "ill-advised" because, while I love that anime movie, and, yes, there are ways to adapt it successfully, I very much doubt anyone with the money needed would be interested in doing it justice. :)
Well I don't live in the states so I don't know what I'll be bringing to that but I will be going to see a showing in Australia next month
@@jmalmstenthe license was picked up expect a short us theatre release into a Blu-ray home release
Oshii video please😎. He is my favorite director!
I second this comment. Oshii's work is a cut above the rest
You all know what to do like the video and force your friends to like the video lol
please i would KILL for an oshii video
you know what needs to be doneeeee
Bro you got that Cyberpunk lighting going on too?
That's like, the one time the 'streamer' setup finally makes sense.
streaming the modern horrors of mankind
Fall??? No ive been waiting for more of this !!
What is the Ghost in the Shell as seen at 13:10? I don't recall seeing that one before! When did it come out? Its series name (other than the GITS part I mean)?
it's from the ps1 game, which had some custom animated cutscenes that are much closer to the original manga
All hail to the most underrated channel on the platform
🎉
Big Ups for using The Silver Case OST as BGM
banger ost for sure
Great work as always. Minor flub at 17:23 saying Las Vegas instead of Los Angeles.
Whoops loll
Some other anime's which fit into the cyberpunk genre is Ergo Proxy (2006), UnGo (2011), AEon Flux (1991), Darker than Black (2007), Girls last Tour (2018) and Psycho Pass (2012).
I wish there was more new age cyperpunk anime. It should really make a comeback
New Stevem? Yeaaaaaaahhhhhhhh boi!
less gooooo
The goat is back
Love this one ❤
thank you!
Good video, but the truth about cyberpunk is that its true backbone lies not in media but in the TTRPG. Some periods will be more lively than others, but as long as the TTRPG keeps thriving, the genre as a whole will survive.
TTRPGs are a particular niche for those interested, but they aren't exactly the cultural centre of which where the genre formed so it didn't really seem worth mentioning here too much
I never even watch anime but I never miss a Stevem video. Strange but true
Interesting conundrum lol
@@Stevem Just here for the cool chill vibes mate. Even a non-anime watcher knows these videos are well-made!
@@milquetoastedwell I'll take it as a compliment glad you're enjoying it 😄
Good stuff. Wish you’d covered Texhnolyze, man, but it can be a lot to get through.
didnt really know where it would fit in to be fair
Oh man I wish I watched Den Noh Coil when it was new, but I had no idea it existed. Watching it now, it's hard to keep up with sometimes because we have AR and phones with full OSes, and a lot of the tech they put in that show just seems dated, and it breaks the disbelief in the world. But then I remember that show came out in 2007, and the amount of stuff they DID get right, or figured out as a concept with only the technology that existed then is really incredible. It's such an interesting show.
it's pretty interesting for sure
You best start believing in cyberpunk dystopias, you're in one.
thank you!
no problem
oh man please do oshi that sounds like a rabbit hole we all would like to fall into
you know what to do
Love the video but could out help me out? What is the anime at 11:37 into the video? It looks like Motoko but I've never seen GITS in this style. Thank you!
that's the GITS ps1 game
@@Stevem Thank you, didn’t realize the game had scenes like that in it!
Amazing work as always. Also where is your shirt from? Looks sick
its a bootleg shirt, that parodys another shirt
born to hug
What a great video.
thank you!
If you think about it, Megaman is a cyberpunk series. (also so was the movie short circuit, but we don't talk about that)
Yes, on the Oshii question. I want to know more of that guy!
Then you know what to do like the video !
Edgerunners was a certified banger! Mardoc Scramble is also a hidden gem in the cyberpunk genre
i was thinking of mentioning the opening of mardoc scrambled but id already mentioned so many cityscape based things by that point
If we do get a Oshii video. I'll be psyched only because I love the Urusei Yatsura and Patlabor franchises. Be i would love more insight into Angel's Egg (can't wait for the physical copy to release), GITS and Jin-Roh.
yeah im going with likely a 10 video approach that will then be turned into one long video maybe with some extended sections,
total Panzer Cop franchise will be covered, both GITS & Angel's Egg which i will be seeing in theatres this month
Mr. Stevem, would you recommend manga Pluto? Or that big Tezuka biography? Thank you for the video.
i have not read pluto im afraid & i've yet to finish that book on the bookshelf either i forgot it was there to be fair ahahha
I love how so many works of fiction in the past just assumed there's going to be WW3 with nuclear weapons and built on top of that. There's rarely any dwelling on the how or why, it just happened and we moved on like nothing happened.
likely just a sideeffect of living through the cold war
Check out the french animation emerging. The Lastman and mars express. Both masterpieces in this genre.
mars express isnt available for yet but im going to try when it is
Name of the first song used here?
all songs are in the the pinned comment, think that's from Snatcher
Please please please do a video about Oshii as he one of my fav anime directors.
you know what to do!
Syd Meads art is beautiful
very much so
Great video im sad texhnolyze didnt get a shout out
It's technically in the video when I showed kosakas writing credits in the genre but it didn't really feel relevant to bring up when I was talking about the different topics same with ergo proxy I may have been able to squeeze them in but probs have just been for the sake of it
11:48
What GitS adaptation is this?
that is an animated cinematic for the PS1 videogame Ghost in the Shell
There were many cyberpunk influences before Blade runner came out in 1982. Metropolis is, for example, classic cyberpunk, except it was not called that and, sort of, it ended well. Closer to what we understand as cyberpunk is the French comics which were popular in the 1970’s and which resulted in the movie, Heavy metal in 1981. The 2nd story in the movie, Harry Canyon, is a classic high tech, low life story. This in turn was based on The Long Tomorrow by Mobius, which was first published in 1976 in the magazine Metal Hurlant.
the genre was only coined as a term in 1980, Metropolis is a very influential scifi work but i can't say it's part of a genre that hadnt been formed yet, also I do bring up The long tomorrow in this video i'm pretty sure which is defo a place of influence visually that cyberpunk works took from self admitted
I finally got around to watching Armitage III this year and loved it. With respect to newer works, Cyberpunk Edgerunners was also fantastic. Metallic Rouge was a rare miss for the genre due to its convoluted story.
ML felt like it whas trying to force a 24 episode outline of a 90's show into a 12 episode show.
Regardless of quality assessments I do think that it's interesting that bones would make an original IP in the genre