FIRST TIME WATCHING THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING | PART 2/2 | REACTION | REVIEW
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- Hi everyone! :)
Today we are watching THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING. This was Tania's first time watching the movie.
Join us along the the first installment in The Lord of the Rings! An epic fantastic adventure trilogy that will leave you speechless.
PLOT: The future of civilization rests in the fate of the One Ring, which has been lost for centuries. Powerful forces are unrelenting in their search for it. But fate has placed it in the hands of a young Hobbit named Frodo Baggins (Elijah Wood), who inherits the Ring and steps into legend. A daunting task lies ahead for Frodo when he becomes the Ringbearer - to destroy the One Ring in the fires of Mount Doom where it was forged.
Sit back and relax while you enjoy one of the best movies we have ever watched!
Remember you can watch this in full with us on Patreon. We also have number 2 and 3 up on Patreon before TH-cam get it.
/ taniadillon
good reaction, but man, stop anticipating things to the girl!
Galadriel is NOT Gandalf's girlfriend, and never was.
Galadriel’s husband standing right there and he says that silliness😶
Who said that Galadriel was Gandalf's girlfriend?
Of course, she'd never cheat on me.
At 19:22, Peter Jackson & Co. give Galadriel a sinister vibe that is absent from the book, probably to increase the tension between Galadriel and Frodo with the Mirror. Galadriel is extremely powerful, but she isn't evil. Tolkien constantly wrote and re-wrote his "legendarium" of Middle-earth, even after publication of LOTR. One character who continued to evolve in Tolkien's mind was Galadriel. In the book she says, "[Celeborn] has dwelt in the West since the days of dawn, and I have dwelt with him years uncounted, for ere the fall of Nargothrond or Gondolin [kingdoms of the First Age] I passed over the mountains, and together through ages of the world we have fought the long defeat." But in some of Tolkien's latest writing, he puts Celeborn and Galadriel together in Valinor (the Undying Lands), where they departed and came to Middle-earth in the First Age. This sort of thing is why Tolkien was never able to finish The Silmarillion; his son Christopher put together a more-or-less coherent version which was published after his father's death, in 1977.
Fun fact: Actor Sean Bean has a severe fear of flying and that was quite a problem during the filming of Lord of the Rings. Scenes were regularly shot in isolated places. The actors and crew were brought by helicopter, but our Boromir was not seen. When the time came again, he would start a walking tour to the filming location hours in advance and already wearing his costume.
OMG that is absolutely crazy! I had no idea. I don't blame him though, I am also scared of flying 😅 Thank you so much for sharing! 🙂
Tolkien, (The OG of all Authors) was a veteran of the First World War and many other battles such as The Battle Of Somme etc. his works of art were to give back to the England as a form of restoring lost mythologies that he himself was a master of since he was a top professor of philology at Oxford.
He did ALOT of his writing while in the trenches during WWI during small “breaks” while down in those trench forts built into the ground. And while he eldest son was in the Second World War; his Lord Of The Rings writings was strictly created above all else to give his eldest something to read while stationed wherever he was stationed.
I forgot that part. They sent letters back and forth about it all the time. He was also the one and only son that actually protected his fathers legacy and work.
A lot of his other work were put together BY his son after his father passed away.
It’s well worth to react to the documentary behind the scenes film the director and crew and cast created together as well as the interview with the son Christopher Tolkien who you get to sort of enjoy a nice indoor and outdoor chat for like what came to about 1-2 hours of wonderful footage from an era that really must not be forgotten.
His work shed a light on things like The Finnish Kalevala, Norwegian Elder Edda, The Welsh Mabinogion, The Norwegian Nibelungen, The Indian Bhagvagita & Several Irish Folklore + other Cultural things! The man also restored and translated ancient relics for the governments as one everyone trusted. Much of what’s in our dictionary come from his efforts as well.
Anytime he spoke & even posted several comments into the paper as an editorial or response to certain issues as a very involved man for the world and the environment everyone turned their head to listen to him as everyone knew his worth and respected him greatly. His works show how NOT to glorify war; shows in the films if you pay close attention while watching the next films.
Sharing what you know now via the after thoughts at the end of the second film! Remember. Extended edition. There is a lot missed out on especially in the second movie regarding Boromir backstory which there is much more in the books but the films WANTED to keep more but the cinemas and Harvey Weinstein literally harangued him into making a “theatrical cut” which is why you have two versions.
The real version and the “theatrical cut”. It was all to make more money for the company that is the theatres/cinemas.
To get more showings in per day during the year. And believe me. People were camping outside and travelling the country to watch it MORE THAN ONCE.
His creations literally lead to inspiring the most currently famous books games & movies we all literally wouldn’t have enjoyed and be touched to our souls core without him and his spiritually connected brilliance. That and he was a philologist professor at Oxford first and foremost which covers so many things.
Not just linguistic. The man was a true genius and Jack of all trades but ultimately LOVED the simple life.
The inspiration for Lord of the Rings was not any war, but author J.R.R. Tolkien's love of language. Especially Welsh, Finnish and Old English.
He lamented the loss of any true English folklore, that was wiped out after the Norman invasion of 1066, so Tolkien wrote many books on these new "legends" he came up with himself. Much of which is centered around three languages he fully developed himself. Two Elven languages and Dwarvish., Númenorean Adunaic, Black Speech(warped Numenorean and elvish)
They all have syntax, vocabularies, and a whole writing system that can be learned as the Tengwar alphabet is moreso to match with the spoken elvish rather than one to one for other country’s alphabet. Hundreds of people worldwide speak elvish fluently. Tolkien did draw upon his personal experience in the trenches of World War ONE, not Two, as inspiration for some parts, most notably, the Dead Marshes that Frodo and Sam and Gollum pass through in The Two Towers. But war was not the inspiration for the entire series.
World Of Warcraft. Skyrim, Harry Potter, Diablo, D&D, even Warhammer and so forth wouldn’t have. Existed without taking inspiration from and or completely ripping off from Tolkien. Many great documentaries to react to about him also more about him and AWESOME stuff from the hours & hours of behind the scenes documentaries from the DVDs of the movies which are also on TH-cam & I can send you a playlist to react to from top to bottom on the channel called Pajasek99.
Wow that´s awesome! I will definitely be watching the extended versions for the next two movies
The other members of the fellowship were off the end of the bridge before Gandalf directly confronted the Balrog. In the book, Boromir and Aragorn both leapt back on the bridge, but they were too late.
Also Gandalf fell off much more quickly in the book, PJ made it look like he could have pulled himself up after resetting his grip.
Peter Jackson tried to subtly suggest that they couldn’t go back to the bridge because there were orcs in the sidelines shooting arrows at them
Galadriel is Gandalf’s girlfriend? wtf?
At 4:00, Tolkien provides a detailed chronology of events as an Appendix to the main story. Gimli's cousin Balin and his clan had been destroyed about 25 years previously, so they had been dead for a while.
@TnDMultiverse So have you been convinced to watch the extended versions of the next 2 movies yet?
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Absolutely! And we also will be watching the scenes from the extended version on this one
@@TnDMultiverseawesome. Slip that one in before two towers and all will be dandy!
“Demon of the Ancient World”, not ‘underworld’
You’ll love the full scene with Frodo+Sam &Galadriel the great Peter Jackson & team didn’t seem to include.. which all this little stuff lead to that scene in the movies which gave it more meaning; & the”one who has seen the eye” thing was a mistake by the team. It gave the wrong message and was not needed as it lead some reactors to be like “so creepy lol” which diminishes how much farther that well done scene could have gone especially in the extended to do it properly as in the books that lays it out perfectly.: •[Frodo] stepped back shaking all over & looked at the Lady. “I know what it was that you last saw”, she said; 'for that is also in my mind. Do not be afraid! But do not think that only by singing amid the trees, nor even by the slender arrows of elven-bows, is this land of Lothlórien maintained and defended against its Enemy. I say to you, Frodo, that even as I speak to you, I perceive the Dark Lord and know his mind, or all of his mind that concerns the Elves. And he gropes ever to see me and my thought. But still the door is closed!'
She lifted up her white arms, and spread out her hands towards the East in a gesture of rejection and denial. Eärendil, the Evening Star, most beloved of the Elves, shone clear above. So bright was it that the figure of the Elven-lady cast a dim shadow on the ground. Its rays glanced upon a ring about her finger; it glittered like polished gold overlaid with silver light, and a white stone in it twinkled as if the Evenstar had come down to rest upon her hand. Frodo gazed at the ring with awe; for suddenly it seemed to him that he understood.
'Yes,' she said, divining his thought, 'it is not permitted to speak of it, and Elrond could not do so. But it cannot be hidden from the Ring-bearer, and one who has seen the Eye. Verily it is in the land of Lórien upon the finger of Galadriel that one of the Three remains. This is Nenya, the Ring of Adamant, and I am its keeper.
'He suspects, but he does not know - not yet. Do you not see now wherefore your coming is to us as the footstep of Doom? For if you fail, then we are laid bare to the Enemy. Yet if you succeed, then our power is diminished, and Lothlórien will fade, and the tides of Time will sweep it away. We must depart into the West, or dwindle to a rustic folk of dell and cave, slowly to forget and to be forgotten.'
Frodo bent his head. 'And what do you wish?' he said at last.
'That what should be shall be,' she answered. 'The love of the Elves for their land and their works is deeper than the deeps of the Sea, and their regret is undying and cannot ever wholly be assuaged. Yet they will cast all away rather than submit to Sauron: for they know him now. For the fate of Lothlórien you are not answerable but only for the doing of your own task. Yet I could wish, were it of any avail, that the One Ring had never been wrought, or had remained for ever lost.'
'You are wise and fearless and fair, Lady Galadriel,' said Frodo. 'I will give you the One Ring, if you ask for it. It is too great a matter for me.'
Galadriel laughed with a sudden clear laugh. 'Wise the Lady Galadriel may be,' she said, 'yet here she has met her match in courtesy. Gently are you revenged for my testing of your heart at our first meeting. You begin to see with a keen eye. I do not deny that my heart has greatly desired to ask what you offer. For many long years I had pondered what I might do, should the Great Ring come into my hands, and behold! it was brought within my grasp. The evil that was devised long ago works on in many ways, whether Sauron himself stands or falls. Would not that have been a noble deed to set to the credit of his Ring, if I had taken it by force or fear from my guest?
'And now at last it comes. You will give me the Ring freely! In place of the Dark Lord you will set up a Queen. And I shall not be dark, but beautiful and terrible as the Morning and the Night! Fair as the Sea and the Sun and the Snow upon the Mountain! Dreadful as the Storm and the Lightning! Stronger than the foundations of the earth. All shall love me and despair!'
She lifted up her hand and from the ring that she wore there issued a great light that illuminated her alone and left all else dark. She stood before Frodo seeming now tall beyond measurement, and beautiful beyond enduring, terrible and worshipful. Then she let her hand fall, and the light faded, and suddenly she laughed again, and lo! she was shrunken: a slender elf-woman, clad in simple white, whose gentle voice was soft and sad.
'I pass the test,' she said. 'I will diminish, and go into the West and remain Galadriel.'
They stood for a long while in silence. At length the Lady spoke again. 'Let us return!' she said. 'In the morning you must depart for now we have chosen, and the tides of fate are flowing.'
'I would ask one thing before we go,' said Frodo, 'a thing which I often meant to ask Gandalf in Rivendell. I am permitted to wear the One Ring: why cannot I see all the others and know the thoughts of those that wear them?'
'You have not tried,' she said. 'Only thrice have you set the Ring upon your finger since you knew what you possessed. Do not try! It would destroy you. Did not Gandalf tell you that the rings give power according to the measure of each possessor? Before you could use that power you would need to become far stronger, and to train your will to the domination of others. Yet even so, as Ring-bearer and as one that has borne it on finger and seen that which is hidden, your sight has grown keener. You have perceived my thought more clearly than many that are accounted wise. You saw the Eye of him that holds the Seven and the Nine. And did you not see and recognize the ring upon my finger? Did you see my ring?' she asked turning again to Sam.
'No, Lady,' he answered. 'To tell you the truth, I wondered what you were talking about. I saw a star through your finger. But if you'll pardon my speaking out, I think my master was right. I wish you'd take his Ring. You'd put things to rights. You'd stop them digging up the gaffer and turning him adrift. You'd make some folk pay for their dirty work.'
'I would,' she said. 'That is how it would begin. But it would not stop with that, alas! We will not speak more of it. Let us go!'
When at last all that [Galadriel] had desired in her youth came to her hand, the Ring of Power and the peaceful rule of Middle-earth which she had dreamed... her wisdom was full grown and she rejected it....
Meaning definitely by now it’s become trivial to her. Even back in the day he couldn’t find her or pierce her mind and whenever he went looking for her presence he boils t find her ALL AT THE SAME TIME AS HER BEING ABLE TO READ HIS OWN MIND WITHOUT HIM KNOWING! Often times even from a great distance. That’s power. Just one calm look from her is all it takes to send even the Nazgûl run away from her. They even avoid her realm entirely, opting to travel hundreds of miles around her realm; both because of its own power as well as they know exactly who she is and her exact lineage through themselves being very old. 4000+years old. Especially the WitchKing(head Nazgûl). Remember Númenorean men are not like other average men. They were known to be rather superhuman & very tall. Between 6-8 feet.
I am considering reading the books after this! So interesting!
@@TnDMultiversethere is a lovely immersive ambient audiobook by Phil dragash and awesome lore videos to pair them with. We’d love to see reactions to the Phil dragash stuff that’s for sure.
@@TnDMultiverse many channels also do book clubs. Veggie Gamer’s style is awesome. The journey never ends as the big Tolkien lore channels are still to this day making awesome content. Diving deeper and deeper and making connections we didn’t notice before. Being fellow scholars that are piecing things together in the same way he and his university colleagues/mythology-SAGA loving writers club friends would do! Many were meant to work with him on his writing ventures but they died in the world war as I may have shared already. There are awesome videos about Tolkien that are worth reacting to as well. If you make a community post you’ll get many awesome suggestions that’s for sure.
Only Ecthelion the elf of the First age and Gorfidal killed balrogs before and some unknown guys in the war of wrath and it makes sense why Gandalf would know what it is as they are the same order of creatures, Maiar but the balrog is like a fallen angel and Gandalf is an angel incarnate
Fëanor killed several. Glorfindel was a lord of Gondolin, who after the city fell was helping civilians flee. A Balrog was set on a mountain pass to ambush & genocide the citizens in what was known as Battle Of Sudden Flame. Glorfindel battles the Balrog solo, which culminates in both falling off the mountain into a ravine to their mutual destruction.
Ecthelion was also a lord of Gondolin, and the warden of the city’s gate. He had been injured fighting through the city during its fall. The remaining forces were in the centre square, with the city’s Fountain (of which Ecthelion was lord of the people of the fountain). Gothmog, captain of the Balrogs, breaks through with the attack. He wounds Ecthelion, who - due to his injuries - cannot hold neither sword nor shield. So he leaps at Gothmog, rams his spiked(bladed helmet) helmet into the Balrog, and causes both of them to tumble into the Fountain. They are both too heavy to swim, and both injured, so they both drown (or have their inner fire extinguished). The steam from the fountain’s ruin adds to the chaos, assisting in some fleeing the city with Tuor, the princess Idril, and Glorfindel.
(Remember the prologue war in the fellowship of the ring? See those curved Blade-Esque things ontop of the elvish men’s helmets? That’s due to the ancient battle of Echthelion and the Balrog at Gondolin making its way into augmented design for their armour.)
So it’s also a theme that happens in the books where there usually is always something to do with falling into water. Except Fëanor who slayed several balrogs at once & Gothmog slayed him after one bound him suddenly when he was supposed to have a “one on one” duel with Gothmog but one wasn’t wanting to play fair. But he was fatally wounded and so his sons and host moved him away to a safe place where his body burned up from the fires of his own spirit. This was at The Battle Under Stars (Dagor Nuin Giliath).
@@Makkaru112 it's just not explicitly stated that Feanor did kill any it just says that he fought fearsly
At 26:19, the Argonath are colossal figures of Isildur and his brother Anarion, the first kings of Gondor. They were erected about a thousand years ago to mark the northern boundary of Gondor at the height of its power--Gondor's borders have shrunk considerably by the time of our story. I love the job the craftsmen of Weta Workshop did on these figures. If you look behind them, you can see quarry marks on the cliffs where the stones for the figures were cut.
You talk too much bro
The elvish songs of lamentation were for Gandalf when they arrived in Lothlórien. So the song you hear is literally for him whilst being a theme for the movie itself. This was expanded & set to music by Philippa Boyens & Howard Shore, respectively, for The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring.
It was sung in the said film by Elizabeth Fraser in the track Lothlórien. Notable about this song is that it assumes that the elves of Lothlórien were aware that Gandalf was an incarnate Maia. This is debatable. As well, the lyrics ask "What drove you to leave/That which you loved?". This suggests that Gandalf was well aware that he would fall in Moria.
Other verses include Gandalf being the wisest of the Maiar, and that with him the Flame of Anor would leave the world (assuming that it and he were one, or he was the only wielder of the Flame).
(English comes after the Quenya)
* The first part is in Quenya:
A Olórin i yáresse
Mentaner i Númenherui
Tírien i Rómenóri
Maiaron i Oiosaila
Manan elye etevanne
Nórie i melanelye?
- The Second part is in Sindarin:
Mithrandir, Mithrandir, A Randir Vithren
ú-reniathach i amar galen
I reniad lín ne mór, nuithannen
In gwidh ristennin, i fae narchannen
I lach Anor ed ardhon gwannen
Caled veleg, ethuiannen.
* Olórin, who once was...
Sent by the Lords of the West
To guard the lands of the East
Wisest of all Maiar
What drove you to leave
That which you loved?
Mithrandir, Mithrandir O Pilgrim Grey
No more will you wander the green fields of this earth
Your journey has ended in darkness.
The bonds cut, the spirit broken
The Flame of Anor has left this World
A great light, extinguished.
And Since Gandalf is tied to the story and fate of the elves as he is one of the Maiar spirits is that when one perishes it tends to be a big deal when something like one “dies” if you will. Spending thousands of years together even in his current embodiment is still greatly impactful upon his death.
I love Tolkien and his ability to just keep building the Lore of Middle Earth.
I truly appreciate you sharing.
“I shall NOT be dark, all EVIL will despair” part 2 - All creatures whose flesh are nourished by the matter of Arda have a tendency towards Melkor AKA Morgoth, for greater or lesser. Since Melkor poured his evil power into the very existence and essence of the world(Morgoth’s Ring” book explains a lot including how and when he put a portion of his remaining power into the earth itself.
Sure, Galadriel was born in the Undying Lands where there was supposed to be no evil (souls of the Elves are greatly less subject to making faulty decisions), but Galadriel & the rest of her father's kin were directly targeted by the Evil Lord himself. Melkor corrupted a decent portion of the Noldor, basically telling them things along the lines of “My Valarin kin are cooping you all up in Valinor.”, which wasn’t their ancestral homeland to begin with, like Middle Earth was, Some were affected little, most were affected to greater degrees, and Galadriel was the least affected woman by the lies of Melkor, which were “sweet but poisoned honey" as she’d call his words.
Her natural pious tendency towards goodness & kindness as shown by her ability to read the hearts of everyone and all living beings around her which aids her to provide what anyone truly needs. Due to the magic bleeding from the world as the ages went on; thanks to Morgoth’s Ring poisoning the earth long ago; lead to a what if scenario in her mind as she’d be the only living creature left with the skills & power to even use the ring.
She didn’t need her ring at all to block him out of her realm telepathically as well as read his mind from afar without him knowing. But there is a difference between good people who are a bit morally challenged and the evil people.
The evil folk act upon their impulses and unlawful desires, while the good folk overcome such flaws within themselves (and for some not always they can masterfully do this). Galadriel WOULD NEVER listen to Melkor and tread the path of toxic pride and ambition.
Galadriel has a Fëa spirit that’s only grown larger as the ages passed on and on. Enough to channel into an effect that threw down fortress walls, without tiring her at all. And with that much Fëa, she is capable of holding her own against Maiar for a good long while, much like her brother Finrod did against Sauron, or her uncle Fëanor did against Balrogs.
Fëanor effectively lost all claim to the crown when he rebelled and dragged his entire house to Middle Earth. Where he promptly died a heroic death after slaying several Balrogs at the Dagor-nuin-Giliath; The Elves first encountered Lord Of Balrogs named Gothmog in the Dagor-nuin-Giliath; (meaning “the battle fought under stars”) before the first rising of the Moon.
In that battle, Fëanor's fury had caused him to draw forward of the main force of the Noldor, and so he came upon Gothmog with only a small guard left around him that rushed so deep into enemy territory.
Fëanor slayed 2 or 3 balrogs at once & Gothmog slayed him after one bound him suddenly with its primordial flame whip when he was supposed to have an uninterrupted “one on one” duel with Gothmog but one wasn’t wanting to play fair. But he was fatally wounded and so his sons and host moved him away to a safe place where his body burned up from the fires of his own spirit.
Even with a lesser ring like Nenya, Galadriel had enough of a boost in her Fëa(spirit) , that she could sustain an unassailable magical realm against Maiar and virtually anything on Middle-Earth. Only problem was when Sauron wore the one ring, she had to take off Nenya, and had to lose that Maia level Fëa spirit from the modernly termed “boosted power up”
With the one ring, Galadriel would have such a boost in her Fëa spirit, that she’d literally become stronger than the foundations of the Earth.
Due to Galadriel’s immense native Fëa, she was prone to a super healthy pride and a small lust for dominion/ but not domination, her goodness kept this pride from going over to the dark side. Galadriel at heart was extremely good so she’s definitely not evil. She never once is called queen or desires to be called such a thing, she and her husband Celeborn became the wiseman and wisewoman of that realm; after the previous elven lord Amroth died and his wife Nimrodel disappeared ontop of the fact Amroth’s Successor later died as well in the “Last Alliance”, (same battle shown in the prologue to Fellowship Of The Ring), All Evil Despairs at her presence let alone hearing her name on the wind.
The Nazgûl themselves avoid her realm every chance they get to the point of choosing to go the long way around for over 100 miles just to avoid her. (So she’s definitely scary to foul entities that have turned away from Eru Îlluvatar the one AllFather.)
She’s a totally good character. Aragorn even says to the Fellowship as they enter Lothlórien, “There is in her and this land no evil, unless a man bring it hither himself. Then let him beware!” If you’re going by her portrayal in the movies, you might think she has an evil element to her character, but that came from Peter Jackson’s portrayal of the addictive, coercive power of the Ring. When Frodo offered her the Ring, it presented her with visions of herself as the all-powerful Goddess of Middle-Earth.
Luckily, she was smart & intuitive enough to realize that the Ring was totally evil, and despite the best of intentions, it would have turned her evil in the end-but she still would have appeared to be beautiful and good. I don’t agree with Jackson’s “drowned Galadriel” portrayal of her being tempted by the Ring-I think she’d have appeared as a supernatural being of divine beauty, and her regular appearance was close to that already, but how do you show that in a movie? Apparently, in her youth in Valinor, she was somewhat of a rebel, but that’s not necessarily evil.
She certainly could have fallen into the same trap as her uncle Fëanor did, of thinking that everyone was entitled to her opinion-but she kept her ego in check. (If you’re not sure what I’m referring to there; please read The Silmarillion and “Unfinished Tales”.)
No matter how noble her reason was to use the ring as a last resort, especially if said fellowship fell off the “edge of the knife” as she called it. she had a change of heart which happened in the middle of talking to Frodo.
Galadriel left Valinor(The Undying Lands) for a reason - and it was different from most of the other elves.
She wasn’t with her uncle Fëanor, who wished to make war against Morgoth and retrieve the Silmarils - she was not wishing to go to war, and had no interest in the Silmarils in which Melkor stole from Fëanor which was the surviving light of the two trees of Valinor within them that the only Fëanor; the master of all elven smiths could have accomplished but it could not be done a second time as is any pure creation of one’s heart, especially in regards to the elves and Valar alike.
Though she traveled with her other uncle, Fingolfin, her goals were not aligned completely with his either despite her full support of her noble and regal uncle Fingolfin in general.
- They both wished to keep an eye on Fëanor and make sure the Noldor were in good hands -
Galadriel wasn’t interested in Fëanor and wanted her own realm. After spending some time in Doriath, Galadriel and her husband Celeborn passed to the east out of Beleriand and passed eastward through Eriador and over the Misty Mountains; to where she founded her own realm in what became renamed as Lothlórien. Her motivation and goal was to preserve her realm, possibly at any means necessary.
With Sauron’s return in the Third Age, Galadriel was forced to ask herself how far she would go to preserve her realm. If Frodo failed, she must forsake her own ring & her realm. If he succeeds, her ring will lose power and her realm will fade. Would she seize the ring, taking Sauron’s power for her own, to save her realm? She decided she would not. She had decided to “test” the Fellowship, to find some flaw that would allow her to justify seizing the ring, and she did find a flaw - in herself. She stated to Frodo, that by telling her that he would offer her the ring if she asked, that she had come to test his heart, but found that he was testing hers.
She had a change of heart, she would pass into the West, and remain Galadriel.
Which one is better? Being born completely good and living your whole life without any evil inside, or having a character growth ?
Great reaction❤😊.....
Yes, you should watch some behind the scenes....WETA workshop/Richard Taylor and his crew did such an amazing job ❤
Been to New Zealand twice, and visited alot of Lotr locations, and yes it does really look like this ❤
That's amazing! I would love to watch some behind the scenes videos! Everything was so perfectly done, it feels weird to think that it is actually a movie and not real life 😅
Here is more stuff that connects to when Morgoth killed Fëanor’s father Finwë (as described in Part 1 of Galadriel’s Mark Of Tragedy):
•The First Kinslaying occurred before the Helcaraxë. It took place in the city of Alqualondë on the shores of Aman when the Noldor, lead by Fëanor, stole the ships of the Teleri (which also that clan didn’t like the energy coming from Fëanor but also didn’t want to start another war with Morgoth ontop of Teleri being rather peaceful in general; along with the fact it was all just a bit rash on their perspective so to speak to leave for Middle-earth, resulting in the deaths of many Teleri.
This act was a major turning point in the history of the Elves and led to the estrangement of the Noldor and the Valar. This is the battle where I may have mentioned in the Galadriel hair comment. Where she was defending her mothers people from Fëanor and his army which is one of the main reasons he backed the hell off. She’s a very cool character. One of the most beloved still alive in middle ear to after so many ages of the world had passed into the third age that you’re watching this movie in!)
•The decision to leave Aman and journey to Middle-earth was a choice made by the Noldor, led by Fëanor, on their own. They were driven by their desire to reclaim the Silmarils, which had been stolen by Morgoth, and to avenge the deaths of their kin who had been killed in the pursuit of the jewels.
The journey through the Helcaraxë was a difficult one, and many of the Noldor perished along the way. However, it was not seen as a punishment, but rather as a test of endurance and resilience. Those who survived the journey were strengthened by it and became more powerful as a result.
In summary, the First Kinslaying occurred before the Helcaraxë, and the decision to leave Aman and journey to Middle-earth was made by the Ñoldor on their own. The Helcaraxë was a difficult journey, but it was seen as a test of endurance on its own rather than a punishment.
This isn’t even 10 percent of the whole story just with her life and the life of her family shaped middle earth as we know it and made sure survival into the ages was even possible. Especially for both men and elves. She even among many elves is a living example of a bygone era for both kindreds.
Aragorn responds to the fellowship as they enter Lothlórien: “There is in her and this land no evil, unless a man bring it hither himself. Then let him beware!” If you’re going by her portrayal in the movies, you might think she has an evil element to her character, but that came from Peter Jackson’s portrayal of the addictive, coercive power of the Ring. When Frodo offered her the Ring, it presented her with visions of herself as the all-powerful Goddess of Middle-Earth.
Tolkien stated in other works and letters between others and himself that she essentially could subdue Sauron especially so with the one ring but the true scary part would be that all would love her so genuinely to the point of it being uncanny. The forests would expand throughout what’s left of middle earth as it begins to reflect the elder days to some degrees it’s hard to explain and I don’t have Tolkiens exact words on hand right now but yeah.
It's not quite shown in the movies but Boromir's brother was meant to go show up for the council which ended up being about the ring, all kindreds were showing up for separate matters. The dwarves mainly because one of the Nazgûl had come offering the remaining dwarvish rings they had received long ago that were reclaimed by sauron. But even those thousands of years ago their forefathers were NOT effected by their rings even though those were infused with Sauron's malice. If anything it just increased their hoarding of wealth and resources. Though the echoes from the nameless ones deeper in the mountains had caused certain groups and clans to grow a bit greedy but othet than that they remained fully strong and noble.
(English below) - Moria gate Gandalf said : Annon edhellen, edro hi ammen!
Fennas nogothrim, lasto beth lammen!
“Elvish gate, open now for us! Doorway of the Nargothrond dwarf-folk, listen to the word of my tongue!”
Actually Gimli attacking the ring shows it has no hold over him just like the Dwarvish rings out of the 16 meant to go to the elves had no hold over them. So technically they could easily be used offensively & defensively but many disappeared over the ages mainly due to Sauron collecting them back again over the last few thousand years. One or two eaten by dragons (not simple minded beasts here. They were twisted and enhanced beings by Melkor/Morgoth(Saurons Upperclassman as far as the Ainur face goes.). There were only a few of them and their offspring are lesser drakes throughout middle earth. Most recent one you’ll see in The Hobbit movie and one other most recent dragon left of the originally created dragons was Scatha, of which I don’t think Scatha even has wings or could fly in any permanent sort of way.
“Evil cannot create. Only twist and warp what is already natural to the world”
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“Nobody Trust An Elf”
The thing is with a certain clan of dwarves: A giant set of events throughout the ages caused a huge rift between dwarves and elves since before any elf ever saw a dwarf. Elves are the firstborn. Men are the secondborn. Dwarvish forefathers were created by the hands of one of the Valar named Aulë, then essentially Eru Îlluvatar(AllFather) breathed life into them to later wake up at a later date since Aulë was still excited to create things of his very own. It’s also why dwarves overall can resist the rings power and so forth.
There were these beings became known as Petty Dwarves in the books where these beings were super hostile and the elves thought it was just another spawn of Melkor (now Morgoth) so when they finally did see actual dwarves they killed them on site. That and dwarves were keen on chopping down trees by huge amounts so you can kind of see why… but this was only the beginning. But it’s not a very good start. Buuut not all dwarvish clans share this rift as the creator of the 16 rings was an elf named Celebrimbor and is one of the best characters ever. His main smithery guild in Eregion was full of dwarves and elves called the “Gwaith Ír Mirdain”. Even Gimli’s father was really close to a certain elf I won’t name yet! ❤
Not all dwarves were enemies to elves. Galadriel and her brother were best friends with dwarves. Famously the fortress of Nargothrond was built by Finrod Felagund with the dwarves! It was only a certain clan that killed Elu Thingol! (Elwë)
Galadriel & her elder brother Finrod Felagund were best friends with the dwarves. Finrod was named Felagund by the dwarves meaning “Earth Hewer” from the fact he helped them build the great fortress called Nargothrond of which he was the elven lord that ruled there justly. Was the same for Celebrimbor and the dwarves of Eregion especially the guild called Gwaith Í Mirdain. His bestie was Narvi the dwarf. Narvi and Celebrimbor created the doors of Moria. Moria is also the elvish name for Khazad Dûm. This gift for Gimli set it into imperishable Crystal and would be the only thing left in middle earth that holds the light of the two trees of Valinor (Valanor by the Eldar). It’s basically the uncursed version of the Nauglamir. He named it The Galadramir. ❤
If you search for
'victorian hair art' then you can see what amazing things people created with hair in the past. Craftsmen as dwarfs were, I imagine that Gimli must have created something beyond exquisite!
“I shall NOT be Dark. (All evil) will despair”, The elves (Galadriel especially is one of the few remaining that existed before the sun & moon. They pre-existed day & night.) How utterly, completely terrifying do you think it would be for your whole world to irrevocably change in a matter of an hour? For the thousands of years of (what you would come to know as twilight to be abruptly ended in a profundity of genuinely painful light and an infinity of colour? Of the joy, wonder and terror of distinguishing the difference between green and blue for the very first time in your whole life?)
She is talking about the immediate, majestic sublimity of reality that one experiences in it's totality for the very first time. How on earth could that not be so terrifying as to threaten one's sanity?
Galadriel with the ring would be exactly as beautiful and horrifying. I personally would not know whether to weep bitterly and perfectly, or claw my eyes out through the sheer, unutterable terror of her being in such a circumstance.
But know this: she was showing Frodo what would happen if someone else got the ring. She wasn’t tempted at all. Gandalf tells. Galadriel shows. See the difference now. Two sides of the same coin. Both were needed.
(But yes there was a more fluid beauty full of colour before the rise of the sun. Her uncle, Fingolfin, whilst in middle earth beheld the first rising of the sun and to see this wide field before him in even more definition than before while he was in Middle Earth. This was also the beginning of the dominion of men.)
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“Beautiful & Terrible as the dawn” Galadriel was quite correct to call the morning and night both “beautiful and terrible…”. In truth the physical and metaphysical natures of morning and night were both by turns beautiful and terrible.
First the morning. Physically the morning is the result of the golden fruit of Laurëlin, transformed into a vessel by Aulë’s craftsmen, hallowed by Varda and piloted by the fiery Maiarin spirit Arien. The sun was so terrifyingly powerful that its radiance instilled fear even into Melkor’s heart and defied the assault of his minions. She literally gave up her physical form to take her original form and enveloped the sun; becoming its flames we see today.
Physically the sun is a beautiful golden orb yet it is simultaneously terrifying in its intensity and cannot be observed directly for more than an instant without pain. Metaphysically the morning is beautiful because it diminishes the evil power of those creatures who haunt the night, gives strength to the righteous and because it illuminates the serene loveliness of Valinor and Middle-earth. Metaphysically the morning is terrible because it obscures the light of the stars and sheds light on the ugly reality of Arda Marred, whose very substance is corrupted by the power of Melkor.
Last the night. The night is the Void surrounding the globe of Arda, which existed even before the creation of the Ainur at the beginning of time itself. Physically the beauty of the night lies in the fact . Physically the terror of the night is that it conceals the beauty of Arda and limits the senses of the elves and gives strength to the creatures of evil such as orcs, trolls and the Ringwraiths.
Metaphysically the night is beautiful because it is during the hours of darkness that the stars of Varda, the most beloved creations for the elves, shine most brightly. Metaphysically the terror of the night for elves, who are irretrievably bound to the world of Arda, is that the Void represents the interstellar coldness which is the prison of Morgoth.
Terrible in its more original archaic form didn’t always mean “bad”
(the sun stuff was to move it into a place where Melkor couldn’t go by virtue of how the Valar and Maiar are bound to the world until it’s ending; (which isn’t the true end either. It’s deep stuff. There ends up another song of creation which all kindreds take part in and working with the powers of that long ago past of our world to rebuild everything. Even the Mountains too, healing it after Dagor Dagorath, Also known as the final battle, the worlds ending.
Becoming the greater version of the original form before Melkor’s discord into the first music and so forth which dictated eventually what all ended up ensuing when they entered the world the first time which also was interesting because when they entered it after seeing the complete version it hadn’t been done yet so that was millions of years of work which lead to Middle Earth and the other lands being the remnants of it. Including Valinor being the only remnant of an even older world. At that time of building and tending to the world when the world was young.)
“There lie woods of Lothlórien! That is the fairest of all the dwellings of my people!" - Legolas. "There are no trees like the trees of that land. For in the autumn their leaves fall not, but turn to gold.
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“The grass in this clearing is as green as Springtime in the Elder Days,” and it seemed to Frodo “he had stepped through a high window that looked on a vanished world.” This is the what the world is like for elves; the flowers and trees, re-enchanted, recall the very real wonder of the world.”
The inscription is in Twisted & cursed elvish & Adúnaic but prime BlackSpeech is twisted Elvish. “Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, ash nazg thrakatulûk, agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.” These words were disturbing to any Elves who heard them as well as made them gravely ill, if it doesn’t kill you or make you go deranged first which as for most of mankind may have more dire effects, as any words of that "Black Speech". When Gandalf recited them at the Council of Elrond, the sky darkened and the Elves trembled and covered their ears. This was the first time words of that language had been spoken in Rivendell.
Roughly translated, these words mean: “One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them.”
At some point following the gifting of the rings, a verse was written and kept as part of the Elven-lore as a way to make sure everyone remains vigilant since he could always find other ways to interact with the world and deceive someone into toppling the entire world, what's left of it.:
(Full poem inaction below)
☆"Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie." ☆
◇Oddly enough: From the poem, we get the numbers, coming from the number of rings, 3, 7, 9, 1. Now, if these numbers are flipped, we get the year 1973, THE YEAR IN WHICH HE DIED!◇
((Mordor {BlackLand}wasn’t always what it was either, it was given this name after it became this way. Let’s just say it was once a VERY beautiful land where elves lived and then I believe certain clans of mankind later on. ❤. You’ll find no work of art is as detailed and endless as the works of veteran and Oxford professor named John Ronald Raul Tolkien. ❤
When Isildur cut the ring from Sauron's hand, it was burning hot, and so Isildur was able to transcribe the inscription before it faded.
He described it to be written in an elven-script of Eregion in a language that was not known to him.
Gandalf first learned of the inscription when he read the account that Isildur had written before marching north to his death and the loss of the Ring.
When Gandalf subsequently heated the ring that Bilbo Baggins had found and passed on to Frodo, the inscription appeared, leaving him in no doubt that it was the One Ring.
Long before, at the creation of the One Ring, the smiths of Eregion who had forged the other Rings of Power heard in their minds the voice of Sauron, reciting the words. They then realized his plans, removing the rings from their fingers.
At 2:33, Tolkien originally illustrated LOTR the book with several maps of Middle-earth, but the only other illustration was the Door at the west side of Moria, with its Elvish inscription. If you're wondering why a Dwarvish door would have an inscription in Elvish, it is because back in the Second Age, 3,000 years previously, there was an Elf-kingdom west of Moria called Eregion or Hollin. Uniquely in Middle-earth, the Elves of Eregion were friendly with the Dwarves of Moria and carried on an extensive trade, to the enrichment of both races. So much of the traffic through this door would be Elves.
Love it! So curious to know what happened between the elves and the dwarves. Hopefully we will get to see some of it in the Hobbit 💕
Gandalf has the Amulet of Persistence (or something like that). That's how he's able to return from the next world. It allows him, once he's set his mind to a task, never to forget it or give up. So he spent hundreds of thousands of years in the next world, and never forgot about Sauron, trying to find a way to get back.
There were 5 wizards initially sent down to Middle Earth: Sauron, Sauroman, and Gandalf and two others. Sauron was given the power of Forge (something like that) so he had the ability to make things to increase his power, which eventually seduced him.
Galadriel is not Gandalfs girlfriend LOL, her husband is next to here. Poor Celeborn, here his wife is cheating and in the Shit Of Powers he didnt even exist neither theiir daughter...Elrdons wife.
Indeed. Whacky stuff.
16:02 That Balrogs are (Yes there were so many balrogs at once upon a time) Balrogs are Maia.. (Angelic creatures/ half gods).. They are so much higher than Elves, humans, dworfs etc... Also Gandalf, Saruman, Eagles (The big eagles), Sauron etc. are also Maias (Maiar is multiple version of this maia word)... So actually Gandalf and that Balrog are the same kin.. :))
Galadriel's life was marked by much loss & tragedy part 1. She lost many family members, including her brothers Aegnor & Angrod, who died in the War of Wrath, a great conflict between the forces of the Valar and Morgoth.
She also lost her grandfather, Finwë, who was slain by Morgoth by a terrible & unholy lighting strike that left his body broken but one can imagine he was just as mighty as Fëanor by being the FATHER, Morgoth himself being responsible for the deaths of her uncles Fëanor (& Fingolfin quite a bit later on when he faced off one on one with Morgoth/Melkor and left the fallen Valar 7 permanent wounds which left him eternally limp to the point of being mocked by his generals and the like indefinitely which left Morgoth in intense pain forever!)
Fëanor was Galadriel's half-uncle, as he was the son of Finwë by his first wife Míriel. Fëanor's sons were therefore Galadriel's first cousins. Most of Fëanor's sons died in the wars that followed the theft of the Silmarils, including the tragic deaths of Celegorm & Curufin, who were slain by their own cousin, Lúthien's son Dior.
Galadriel also lost her relative Aredhel, who was her cousin, & Aredhel’s brother; king Turgon of the hidden kingdom of Gondolin. These losses weighed heavily on Galadriel, but she remained strong and resolute in the face of adversity.
Fëanor's death was a tragic event that marked the beginning of the First Age of Middle-earth. After Morgoth stole the three Silmarils, Fëanor swore an oath to retrieve them, even if it meant going to war with the Valar themselves. Fëanor led the Ñoldor in their rebellion against the Valar, & he and his sons played a significant role in the events that followed.
Fëanor was eventually slain by Balrogs, demonic creatures who served Morgoth, during the flight of the Ñoldor from Middle-earth. His death marked the end of an era, & his legacy continued to be felt in Middle-earth for many ages to come.
Fingolfin's death was no less tragic. He challenged Morgoth to single combat & fought valiantly against him, but he was ultimately slain by the Dark Lord. His death inspired many to rise up against Morgoth, & his legacy continued to inspire the people of Middle-earth for many ages to come.
Despite the many losses she suffered, Galadriel remained a powerful and influential figure in Middle-earth, & her wisdom & knowledge continued to be sought after by many.
Galadriel's history is rich & complex, & she played a significant role in the events of Middle-earth. She was born in the Undying Lands before the creation of the sun and moon, and she was a member of the Noldor, one of the three Elven races.
Galadriel's family, the House of Finarfin, was closely connected to the Vanyar, the first of the three Elven races to journey to the Undying Lands. Galadriel's grandmother, Indis, was a Vanya, and her mother, Eärwen, was a Teleri princess who married Finarfin.
Galadriel's father & brothers participated in the rebellion of the Noldor against the Valar, which resulted in the exile of the Noldor from the Undying Lands. Galadriel, however, did not participate in the horrifying kinslaying, protecting her mothers people from Fëanor’s onslaught at Alqualondë instead, - returning in the Undying Lands for a while longer before reuniting with her people still travelling the Helcaraxë.
As I recall her father was with the others that returned to Valinor at the Doom Of Mandos which in basic terms set a warning prophesy sort of thing where if they left Valinor it’d cause a domino effect throughout time etc. but Fëanor’s fire burned inside and he had a HUGE bone to pick with Morgoth.
So that’s what was mainly leading him there but it was several years long of travel on what was called the Helcaraxë (grinding ice wastes) Galadriel did end up there but through other means as her way to middle earth let’s just say lead her to there where she sort of rendezvoused with her family and helped lead her people to middle earth. Many died on this trip of HARSH conditions.).
During the Third Age, Galadriel played a key role in the events leading up to the War of the Ring. She helped the Fellowship of the Ring by giving them gifts, advice, and guidance, and she played a significant role in the defeat of Sauron. (She played a bigger role than shown in the movies)
Galadriel possessed many magical abilities, including the power to read minds, the ability to communicate telepathically, & the power to cast spells but above all was her ability to project herself across large distances(not teleporting, think more like a sort of mental and spiritual projection similar to astral travel) She was also renowned for her beauty & grace, and her wisdom and knowledge were highly respected by the Free Peoples of Middle-earth.
Overall, Galadriel's long life and rich history make her one of the most intriguing and powerful characters in J.R.R. Tolkien's Middle-earth legendarium.
Galadriel is one of the oldest and most powerful beings of the Elven race left in middle earth. According to Tolkien's writings, Galadriel was born in Tirion in the Undying Lands(which means untouched By Morgoth’s Ring where he poured his essence and malice into the earth itself. Middle Earth. Not all of Eä(the world), also known as Aman, which existed before the creation of the sun and moon.
And this landmass used to be closer to middle earth and existed long before Middle Earth became what it was as a landmass in itself due to the reshaping of the world a few times due to Valar’s battles with Melkor along with natural shifts over the millions of years etc.
The creation of the sun and moon occurred after the Two Trees of Valinor, which provided light to the world, were destroyed. This event, known as the Darkening of Valinor, marked the end of the First Age of Middle-earth.
Based on Tolkien's timeline, the events of the First Age occurred approximately 5,000 years before the start of the Second Age. The Second Age lasted for approximately 3,441 years, and the Third Age lasted for approximately 3,019 years.
Therefore, if Galadriel was born in the Undying Lands before the creation of the sun & moon, it is estimated that she would be at least 25,000 years old by the end of the Third Age, which is when the events of The Lord of the Rings take place. This calculation is based on the assumption that Galadriel was born before the start of the First Age and that she has lived through all three ages, which is supported by Tolkien's writings.
Most important thing here is about Galadriel’s eldest brother Finrod: Finrod Felagund, also known as Findaráto, was a noble elf of rarer mixed heritage just like his younger sister & brothers, the Noldor/Vanyar/Teleri renowned for his wisdom and fairness but also his valiance. He was the eldest son of Finarfin, one of the three sons of Finwë who was the High King of the Noldor.
Finrod played a crucial role in the events that led to the creation of Númenor. When the Valar summoned the Noldor to return to Valinor, Finrod and his companions chose to stay in Middle-earth and establish their own kingdoms. During their travels, they encountered the Edain, a group of mortal Men who were the mightiest of them all and the elves considered them equals!!!
They became friendly and open to the elves. Finrod was particularly impressed by their courage and loyalty, and he became the first elf to befriend them.
As time passed, Finrod & the 3 main Houses Of The Edain formed a close bond. Teaching them many things about the world and the lore of the elves. He also helped them in their struggles against the dark forces of Morgoth since even before meeting the elves. The Edain pledged their allegiance to the elves and fought alongside them in many battles. He even learned their language due to his way of reading hearts and minds which essentially aided hugely in his learning how their language worked etcetera.
Eventually, the deeds of Finrod and the Edain were recounted in the halls of the Valar, and the Valar took pity on the mortal Men. They decided to give them a gift, and thus Númenor was created, a great island kingdom in the middle of the sea, where Men could live in peace and prosperity.
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As for Finrod Felagund, [Galadriel’s Eldest Brother], he did not live to see the rise of Númenor, for he perished in a battle against a werewolf in the dungeons of Tol-in-Gaurhoth, also known as Sauron's Isle. Protecting Beren, saving his life by breaking free from his own chains to kill that same werewolf with his bare hands and teeth. Facing off with Sauron before that. He and Beren were forced to watch the elvish companions who were most loyal to Finrod get ripped apart by said werewolves
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He was a true friend to the first of mankind to show up in middle earth, the Edain, and played a key role in the creation of Númenor. He was also close to his sister Galadriel, and together they shared many adventures and battles. (I’ll share the significance of Elrond’s father which is the main character in how his deeds lead to the assistance from Valinor to help insurmountable odds and circumstances regarding Morgoth to take his physical form out of the picture for good in what’s called the War Of Wrath which was 80 years long nonstop. But I’ll go into it more when I share about Elrond in a different comment which I may save for the second movie or if you want I can post it below this video!)
In the end, Finrod's legacy lived on through his deeds and his influence on the fate of Middle-earth. His noble example inspired many, including Aragorn, who was born centuries later & gave him the chance to claim the throne of Gondor & Arnor/Anor as a descendant of the line of Elronds Twin brother who was first king Of Númenor and started the line of the Faithful Númenoreans.
Wow! I felt like we didn´t get to know much about her at all during the movie. Hopefully they will tell us more things about here in future movies!
@@TnDMultiversecheck the part twos in the comments section.
The current ages of the characters: Frodo Baggins is 53. Samwise Gamgee is 38. Meriadoc Brandybuck (Merry) is 36. Peregrin Took (Pippin) is 28. Gandalf (Olòrin) - is 15,000 (in his current form. Aragorn is (won’t say, you’ll find out). Legolas is 2,131-2731, still quite young but a prodigy of his time. Gimli is 139. Boromir son of Denethor II is 41!
Elves aged differently than men and dwarves. They did not suffer from old age or disease, and their lives were not limited by a fixed number of years. Instead, they aged very slowly, remaining youthful and vigorous for much longer than mortals. Though they could voluntarily leave their bodies and the ultimate thing that can kill them is grief or Sorrow that’s palpable enough for them to just not wish to live anymore.
Here are the ages of some of the main Elves of the Third Age, as of the War of the Ring:
1. Elrond Half-elven - over 8,586 while his daughter is around 3000 old! And is said to be the last elf to ever be born upon Arda. Yet again marking the ending of the age of the firstborn (Elves).
2. Galadriel - around 20,000(180.000 in solar human years [1 elf year is one lifetime of man] but time is counted, felt & experienced very differently before the birth of the sun and moon. ❤)
3. Celeborn - 20,000; (he may have been alive before her birth or around the same time as his lineage that he lived amongst his forefathers and kin might suggest he is older but they are both very ancient.)
4. Glorfindel (replaced scenes with Arwen in the movies but it helped prop up Aragorn’s Film character progression. I still think they could have incorporated them both in the scenes somehow and included the other important stuff that went on in that forest meeting Glorfindel and his company of elves)- he’s over 2,000 (although he had been re-embodied after dying in the First Age which means his Fëa {spirit} is far older than 2000.)
5. Thranduil - over 8000, (as he was born in the First Age and lived in Doriath with his father Oropher; Thranduil is also the father of Legolas. (As Haldir mentioned him when speaking to Legolas in Lothlòrien during the first movie’s extended scene. He shares the same kindred elven clan as to Celeborn(Galadriel’s husband).
It's worth noting that Elves could choose to die voluntarily, usually when they grew weary of life or when they had fulfilled their purpose in the world. However, their spirits would then depart to the Halls of Mandos and could eventually be re-embodied in a new
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I meant to add that Frodo was 51 when he left due to the whole Gandalf coming back to the shire after many years. that explains why his youthful appearance didn’t change much throughout the entire film!
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One source is 2931 years old.
Legolas was portrayed by Orlando Bloom. In the "official movie guide" for The Lord of the Rings, a birthdate for Legolas is set to 87 of the Third Age. This would make him 2931 years old at the time of the War of the Ring.
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Unfortunately, Legolas’ age remains a mystery, which is a shame as Tolkien detailed the age of all the other Fellowship members, and even that of less famous Elves as Arwen, Elladan and Elrohir. But we can use various other methods to get the closest estimate! I provide the books used below!
There is reason to believe based on what we know about the Elves' life and about his father Thranduil that Legolas may have been very old, just that old, or very young. He may have been as old as the sons of Elrond who were just a century younger than all the 3000 years old Third Age, far older, or younger.
His estimated age varies very much.
There are several mentions of his father Thranduil in the annals of the Second Age. Although it is said that was his grandfather Thranduil's father Oropher the leader of the Silvan Elves in the Last Alliance, Thranduil is mentioned as one of the princes of Sindar who established realms amid the Silvan Elves before Barad-dûr was founded.
In the beginning of this age many of the High Elves still remained. Most of these dwelt in Lindon west of the Ered Luin; but before the building of the Barad-dûr many of the Sindar passed eastward, and some established realms in the forests far away, where their people were mostly Silvan Elves. Thranduil, king in the north of Greenwood the Great, was one of these. (1)
We're talking about some 6000 years here, and Thranduil himself was older as he was already a prince. He was very likely born still in Beleriand in the First Age, which was until its destruction the home of the Sindar - Oropher we know for sure came from Doriath.
However, even If Thranduil was indeed that old, Legolas was not necessarily a little less ancient.
About Elvish fatherhood:
But except in the first three generations the begetting of children by Elfmen did not usually follow immediately on attaining “age 24” (though “betrothal” often did, or even “marriage”). It was by degrees postponed, until soon “age 48” became regarded as the optimum age for the beginning of fatherhood, though it was often delayed until 60 (sc. 24 years of growth + 36 life-years). [4] Of course, begetting of further children could happen later than this. It could occur up to about a male age of 96 - later than this age (96) a first-begetting seldom occurred. (2)
In 24 years when they reached maturity, the rate was of growth or 12x (288 years). Thranduil may have fathered Legolas when that young (if Legolas was his only and oldest son). But it was usually at 48 which is an additional of 24 life-years of 144x (288+3456 = 3744 years) so Legolas was probably born-depending on Thranduil's and his unknown spouse age- in the end of the Second Age (maybe before) or in the beginning of the Third Age.
It is possible though unlikely, however, that he was only some three hundred years younger than his father. Or If Thranduil did delay until 60 (5472 years) as often happened he was born well after the beginning of the Third Age making Legolas younger than the sons of Elrond. It is very unlikely but not impossible that he was younger than that, we know for certain that he was already mature, so at the very least he was 288 years old.
To sum up in extremes, Legolas could have been so old as to be born at the end of the First Age or so young as to be only a handful of centuries-old at the end of the Third. The most reasonable estimate is of some 3000 years old, with 2000 years not being unlikely either. Reference to his old age can be seen when he says that the 500 years of Rohan were of little amount for him, and when he refers to Aragorn and Gimli as children.
As for his experience, impossible to say as he is an unusual known and mysterious character. But given his age it must have been great.
Sources:
(1) The Lord of the Rings. The Return of the King
(2) The Nature of Middle-earth
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we can give a highly educated guess regarding his age. I'm not here to disagree or agree with anyone. He's not ANCIENT. Nor is he young AF.
He's a bit younger or older than
Arwen. The last of the Eldar to ever be born save maybe the rest of the Avari clan.
Hope I made sense and it was enjoyable to read. We can deduce which elves were the last to ever be born upon Arda. Thranduil himself &
Celeborn literally lived in Dortiath.
Legolas was born near the beginning of the third age or near end of the second age. He's not young. He's around the same age as Elladan and Elrohir.
I have three audio versions of the Lord of The Rings in my Audible account; two in English and 1 in French. I often pick certain sections to help me fall asleep.
Almost all of the orcs in these movies are real people in makeup, rather than CGI.
yeah i think the only 2 times they used CGI orcs were in the very start during the battle on mt. doom and at the end of the last movie if you know you know i dont wanna type spoilers lol
Legolas agreed to be blindfolded along with Gimli as Dwarves for various reasons were not allowed to know where the heart of Lothlórien reside. The scene ended up not making it into even the original uncut edition.
In the morning, the Company walks further into Lórien, reaching the river Silverlode. At one point, the Elves tell Gimli that he must be blindfolded so that he does not know where he is walking, especially because the Dwarves and Elves have not gotten along since the Dark Days. Of which I’ll explain more in your next upload.
Whatever happened between Dwarves and Elves for them not to get along is something that intrigues me! Hopefully we get so see in the next movies
@@TnDMultiversethere will be something that I’ll be able to explain in the second movie but you’ll also watch these two become closer and closer.
I like _The Lord of the Rings_ a lot better than the superhero movies most of us Americans are so obsessed with. Superhero movies glorify power and violence. The world is out of control, menaced by villains, and the only way to protect ourselves is to trust a person with superpowers and make him a vigilante. The underlying message of all superhero movies is _ordinary people don't matter_ . In contrast the goal of the LotR series is to destroy power. The Hobbits are uniquely qualified to save the world, because of all creatures they desire power the least. Instead of the different races fighting over the Ring, they collaborate in the Fellowship to take the Ring to Mordor and destroy it.
At 16:50, George R.R. Martin is said to have used Gandalf's death as inspiration for his killing off of major characters in GoT.
No spoilers, I read the book several times before the movie came out in 2001 and I watched it on opening day at noon. It was a great experience and one thing people overlook is Enya's song "Let it Be" played in the end credits, which set the tone for those who had to exit knowing they would wait another year for the next film. I disagree with some of the choices for the film adapation and feel that this part feels most like Tolkien's original story and less so as the films go on but some prefer to watch them as a whole. Enjoy.
"who would ever want a ring like that" everyone becuase the ring tempts you frodo and and aragorn are the only two people able to resist its temptations so far
I love how you two would say “that’s a great line”, several times in this movie.
Tolkien truly was the OG of Authors. (Thanks Makkaru).
If I had one miff in this entire reaction, it would have been the fall of Gandalf. Although I’ve seen it many times, I watch these reactions to see reactions and felt a little cheated on that.
No big deal, you guys are great and I wish you both much success.
I was honestly waiting for Gandalf to show up and say: "Heeey! I fooled you! I am alive!" I didn't think that was his actual death scene for some reason. Maybe because I thought he was dead before when he had the fight with Saruman and then we got to know that he was still alive. For some reason my brain was thinking this time it would be the same
Gandalf death is shocking but Boromir’s death was so emotional that I couldn’t watch that part of the movie for years.
Agreed! And I feel that after watching all the movies it's even more emotional
Technically, Galadriel is older than Gandalf the Gray, since he appeared in Middle Earth, early in the 3rd age, while she was born in the age of the Trees, before the sun and moon were created, and Olorin had not yet gone to Middle Earth to become Gandalf.
Gandalf is older than Arda.
Everyone starts from scratch, don't give up, I hope that one day you will become a great TH-camr.
Thank you so much!
At 27:20 you ask, "How can you let the most important person disappear?" Good question, but here is a major difference between the movie and the book. In Tolkien's version of the story, Aragorn and Boromir were going to Minas Tirith to defend the capital of Gondor from the attacks of Sauron, not necessarily to continue with Frodo to Mordor. But when Gandalf fell in Moria, Aragorn felt he was obliged to continue with Frodo. Boromir urged the Company to go with him to Gondor and strike out for Mordor from there, but the straight road to Mordor lay on the eastern bank of the great river Anduin. Aragorn welcomed Celeborn's gift of boats, because it put off the decision to go east or west, at least as far as the falls of Rauros. But at this point, the decision had to be made. And Frodo still hadn't made up his mind. So Aragorn gave him an hour by himself to decide. That is why Frodo is off by himself, at least in Tolkien's original version of events.
i mean i wouldn't call that a difference they just don't show them having that talk in the movie peter Jackson actually film most of the books like every scene but couldn't find a way to make it all work out as you cant have a 6 hour long movie and he had to make each book one movie becuase he had a 3 movie contract. he was surprised that it worked out as well as it did even becuase he still felt it was gonna be consider too long of a movie and people would start leaving the theaters before the movie was done
I suppose there is too much information in the books to make it all fit in a 4 hours movie 🥲 I would mind a 6 hours movie though 🙃
My favorite movie series of all time. Looking forward to see your reactions to the next 2 movies.
Thank you! I am loving it so far
Best series ever 🎉
Good
At 18:53 you say, "Can you tell Dwarves are always angry?" Tolkien describes the race of Dwarves thus: "They are a tough, thrawn race for the most part, secretive, laborious, retentive of the memory of injuries (and of benefits), lovers of stone, of gems, of things that take shape under the hands of the craftsmen rather than things that live by their own life." Speaking of the Seven Rings of the Dwarves, Tolkien writes: "The only power over them that the Rings wielded was to inflame their hearts with a greed of gold and precious things, so that if they lacked them all other good things seemed profitless, and they were filled with wrath and desire for vengeance on all who deprived them."
They film all 3 movies at once. Exactly 8 years for the whole project and i believe 438 days to complete filming. Majority of it is film in real location in New Zealand.
the behind the scenes of these movies are legendary. you don't have to watch them all, pick those that interest you the most.
That's crazy, Gandalf is my favorite character too!
As I’ve heard other fans say, “it’s the shortest 4 hour movie ever.”
At 3:10, in the book Sam developed a very strong attachment to Bill the pony, and he was very much opposed to letting Bill go off on his own. Gandalf spoke some soft words in Bill's ear, which somehow provided Bill with protection from the wolves and other dangers of Middle-earth.
Wow! That is awesome! 😍
hola, como estan.. nuevo suscriptor..aqui ya esperando las dos torres!
I was waiting for part 2! Love it
If I'm not mistaken borimere killed something like 60 urakia (sorry about the spelling) so in the later movies when you hear gimlea and legolass (again apologies for the spelling) giving their count of kills they are for the mostly facing just orcs I love borimere as he is a true reflection of what I like to believe the average man can be or at least aspire to b
Say oh my gosh instead please