Cut Roof With A Steel Ridge Beam - New roofing square
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ย. 2024
- In this episode we go through all the steps to fitting a gable end cut roof with a steel ridge beam. I am also using the new ultimate roofing square from Essential Carpentry Tools
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Hi Rich,
More than welcome to a chat on a bank holiday. 😉.
Great work. 🙌
Thanks for the promotion..
Glad you put the extra strap in, 🙈
Thanks Dan appreciate you commenting on the channel and cheers for a great roofing square. 👍🏻
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@@mrabuilders6723 Brilliant tool the ultimate roofing square,makes roofing so much easier now,well worth the expense..
I wouldn’t have been able to sleep at night, if that strap wasn’t fitted 😅
Dan is a top man. I’m sure he was happy to help you out. 👍
This channel is so underrated .
Great wee channel..
Thanks Brendan appreciate your comment 👍🏻
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Subs should be much higher..
Dan Cox is a legend when he gets on his roofs and his square is very popular amongst carpenters on TH-cam. You hade a complicated detail trying to work those work those roof windows into the roof, but you got there in the end. Keep up the good work and hope to see you guys soon on your big project.
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You are by far my favourite building channel…. Everything is explained so well. Please can you do another video showing how you then tile this gable roof x
Got to ‘ our kid ‘ as a retired slater & tiler I wish i’d have followed joiners like you and your dad on many occasions ) with great attention to detail ( especially the positioning of the trimmers for the veluxes!!! ) and the squareness of the the roof structure!!! The number of jobs I went to and got “ Oh, can't you get over this and get over that “ !!!! It was a pleasure to watch a bit of old school work, the best of course. Thank you.
brickwork looks really neat. like the way you birdsmouthed it over the ridge for airflow !
Doing a cracking job of that roof.
With the amount of steels and heavy timbers in that roof it could double up as an air raid shelter 😂😂
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Great video Rich, I wish I could have worked with my dad, he was a chippy too. I would have learned so much. Glad that you’ve had the opportunity to work with yours, he seems a good bloke. 👍🏼😊
Love this channel I'm an apprentice and lots and lots of helpful information in each video. Cheers
Lovely job Rich and I’m glad you got your head around the square.
Just a little tip those tech screws are for steel up to 3mm, they do make them for 12mm and 25mm and it was also good seeing you use a drill driver and not a impact driver on them.
Cheers mate it’s a great square and looking forward to using it again. From what I remember those tek screws were for up to 12mm but nevertheless worked a treat. Didn’t want to risk trying to put them in with out a pilot hole and yes mate definitely not for use with an impact. 👍🏻
practicing holding your breath for periods of time can come in very useful when dealing with building inspectors
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love the belt and braces approach to this roof well done to you
Hi, top video, was great watching you work with your dad. Bless you and him. 😊
Last rood we did lime this we used a 9" x 3" timber and not steel, steel is just iver the top on my eyes, talking of steel, that side limtel looked a bit ropey, i know its not your work buddy but surely red oxide should have been used. That rust looks well set in. Your work is brill though mate
Blimey, that roof ain't going nowhere!! 👌
Proper details perfect. Worth the subscription
Regarding wall plate straps, the Brickie should have built some in to the fair faced wall, cavity side, so you could bend over the wall plate!
That would have been a good idea. I came into this at wall plate level 👍🏻
Tht new roofing square 😂😂😂 ,we all do it even wi small speed sqares cutting bay cills . Great job on tht timber work 👌👌
Good to see you have joined the YTS scheme Rich. That youngster helping looks a keeper lol. Good informative video.
@5:35 first spectator 🐈
That's the building inspector!
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You never fail to impress Rich, nice one.
Building inspector into bondage. I went to do a loft conversion and was told to use steel. I decided to ask a nother joiner to help me. Building inspector came round to make sure we were doing the work right. The helper said I don't work with steel and he said OK use wood but I wanted to use wood no you can't. Thay new each other . One rule for me and another for him . Wood was used and signed off.
I’ve done many loft conversions using laminated timbers glued and bolted on site and never been called back to as much as a crack in the plasterboard. I can’t see an issue with using timber and the Americans never use it from all the channels I watch. We really need to catch up they are so far in front of us. Building inspector common sense seems to be getting worse as well. If it’s not in the book they can’t help 🤷
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The wife got all excited to see your tool rich ,i told you just gonna have to manage with mine 😂
Can you thank your wife for the attention please, my wife doesn’t like looking at my tools at all so it’s nice to have them appreciated 😂
Hi good morning hope you have a great day today 😊
I had a great day thanks and I hope you did also 👍🏻
How old was your dad when he had you, 10 yrs old. looks younger than you. HAHAAAAAA
Though he was his younger brother!!
Is there Specsavers near you?ha ha
@@DeanMosley-gr4zf obviously not HAHAAA
That RSJ looks real heavy (Definitely give you a Blister on your toe if it fell on you !!) and mounted on those pad mounts - beautiful real life building
build my kitchen extension any time you want, great videos m8
Some inspectors are like that, but hey ho... at least you done it. Just to sign it off. 😂 another good video matey
Don't forget the cavity trays! 😂
Cracking job as always keep up the good work.
Just how clean and tidy is that site.
Got to be clean. Don’t like working amongst mess and who doesn’t love a good sweep and tidy unless of course it’s at home 😂👍🏻
@@mrabuilders6723 love pulling floorboards and having a 100 year spring clean and vacuum, 60 year old ones I just leave now though,👍.
I do rafters 2 ways. If a ridge beam, I sit a straight edge on the ridge and wall plate and sit my Bosch digital level n to get the angle. I cut the end of the rafter to that angle. Sit two on either side and temp pin. Mark where it touches the ridge and wall plate. The off cut from the end can be used to mark out the birds mouth.
If no ridge beam, I just measure the opposite, the adjacent is half the extension width, divide the opposite by that and that gives me the tangent. So the inverse of that is the angle.
On vaulted ceilings, I rarely spec ridge beams and do my rafters the second way. It means you can get the cross beam higher, plus I use dog washers.
You have to love working with dad, but the question is who is dad and who is son, on a side note was that Russells hall estate you were working on. Love the videos keep them coming.
Absolutely fascinating
Great video, keep up the good work
Another good un, I’ve learned some stuff here
You could use resin bolts on the wallplate of the feature wall.
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Nice work 👍👍👍🇬🇧
great job and details 👍
that belt does make sense mate. Sorry that you had to go back.
Great job.
God I hate benchdogs, I regret every purchase I've made with them, glad it worked alright for you, started going with woodpeckers & ukj quality is 100x better shows you how primitive they really are & trying to spank the price to mimic the quality on everything, clear instructions, better tools, same price point
Great video I was looking for this
Very tidy.
I would love to work with guy, Even the cat next door is intrigued😀
Well spotted 😹
I am wondering whether the disaster house held up by hopes and dreams has mercifully fallen down which is why we don't see much about it these days.
@@reggiedixon2commenting inside another persons already responded too comment rarely gets the attention of its intended 👍🏼
We will hopefully have an update soon Reggie thanks for taking the time to comment on our channel.
Cant watch that till End😮
Good video nice insight
That shed is built like a brick $@!t house. Given the structural lag screws I wonder if collar ties were even necessary. Nice work.
They are doing nothing apart from supporting the plasterboard. Unfortunately some Building inspectors have little understanding of Engineering and Structural Engineers love to over design.
another cracking video Rich , how many times did your dad say , put that bloody phone down son !
well done top roof
He knows the crack now of having to stop and start and re film stuff but when he started to help me out when we first started the channel he’d just huff and puff and ask if we were going to do something 😂👍🏻
Nice work. The size of steels and timber we are told to use now is getting out of control.
Surely as you have lost so much height with those collar ties which aren’t necessary for structural purposes it would have been better to get a vaulted (barrelled) roof truss ?
Not worth it because of having to fit those 3 velux in it. 👍🏻
Tidy bit of brickwork that and probably no point in avoiding the straight joint in the timber in the ridge beam but I would have done the same good practice 😊
Straps down the back of the brickwork for feature walls
I would’ve thought they would have made them do that and screw them up before building the outer skin, although great work and overcome the problem anyway.
No paint on the beam ? whys that ?
I reckon the inspector was right to have a tie down ar the open end of the back wall.
If the house wall is being plastered then therr ought to be one there as well really.
If the rear wall is double skinned the brickie should have built in a few vertical straps as he went then it would have fully complied with the regs.
Whoever designed the extension should have ensured that it would comply.
How did houses of the past survive with 6x1 as a ridge,
My thoughts exactly Steven. I’ve taken roofs down to put up extensions with 6x1 ridge and 3x2 rafters with no bow or sag with rafter lengths longer than this one albeit proper rough sawn 75mm x 50mm. 🤷
@@mrabuilders6723That old timber would be proper slow grown stuff with really dense growth rings. The only thing to complain about on old roofs is a lack of worm treatment.
If there's no ceiling joists the spreading force of the rafters can push the walls out. The ridge beam (as opposed to ridge board) prevents the spread as the ridge can't drop. So in this case, with a ridge beam, the collar ties aren't really doing anything structurally, but I guess it gives something for the ceiling to be fixed to...
I honestly thought Christian bale decided to learn roofing 😂 all jokes aside job looks good bud
Quality job guys 🙂 but I was left thoroughly confused with your new square and all these measurements, it was like trying to understand Pythagoras theorem when I was at school and I never got my head around that either. You sure that’s your Dad? I hope you paid him a decent wage 😂😂😂 Nice one guys 👍
I think you’ll find that my explanation of it did it know favours it really is a great square. With regards whether he’s my Dad or not he is according to my Mum so unless she’s been lying to me all these years then I think so 😂
HI Rich your dads like silent bob!😀
Next question :- is the wall plate meant to be 'glued' down by the compo ?
The wall plate is sat on compo
Top job A builders, just wondering if you knew the name of the bricks of the internal feature wall 😊
Smashing
Couldn’t it just of had a vaulted ceiling? Also going to look weird with windows on one side only. Great solution to the issue with the ceiling joists
Hi you are doing a great job and having fun making some brilliant videos superstar Ali Walsall west midlands england junction 10 m6 Walsall churckery
surprized the steel is not red oxide or metal primed before the timber is bolted,nice brickwork good to see these days
Would that be necessary? Is it just to protect from being weathered while not covered in or?
We are required to do a red oxide coating on all steels in the south@@BcMzRusT
is oxide on the a rsj n9t a requirement anymore?
Hi Mark I can’t give you a definitive answer to that but we do it if it’s specified but in this occasion it wasn’t mate so we didn’t. 👍🏻
Pity the steel guy hadn't painted the beam with some zinc phosphate. Would have made it look better for the client and Building control
The 'Bill's mother's' reference is to Shakespeare's mum, Mary Arden😂
That's all because of litigation , if they oversize and spec things , they cannot be held responsible.
Hi Mr A Builder where do you buy this tool from please. Thanks.
Building inspectors ugh.My son is one and his brickwork did my crust in.Told him one day I,d finish his corner and he lifted me by the throat and then stormed off swearing at me.(he,d had an accident and the doctor told me this might happen as he,d had head damage.)Wouldn,t have been so bad if the annals hadn’t seen it all.Those were gut wrenching days.
Collar ties ? Why bother with the steel ridge why so high with the wall plate too high above the exterior brick work will need a huge fascia brick
Great video, always love the the way you explain things that your going to do. One think that concerns is why do you look older than your Dad ?
I've got my extension roof to di, very similar with a steel ridge.
I was planning on bolting a timber ontop of the steel Instead of the sides like you. Do you think it would work OK on the top?
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I can’t see why not but my plans didn’t ask for any fixing detail at all 🤷so I decided that I would do it like I did. All the best with your project and I’m more than happy to help you by answering any questions 👍🏻
What tool belt do you use in this video?
So this square helps
You do the birds mouth cut too
the ceiling collars are too low, it would have been so much easier and better to have fixed them flush to the bottom of the ridge beam, 145mm higher from your measurements, it would make the rooflight trimming much tidier, why not put the wall plate straps down the cavity side of the feature wall, much better than the horizontal straps
Hi and thank you for commenting but I’m gonna have to say that if you’d watched the video from start to finish your questions would have been answered and the reasons for what I did would make sense to you.
And breath mate good old inspector gadget 😂😂😎
FFS just use your angle measurement tool mark the top line and transfer it at the opposite side
First for the first time lol 😂. Great Job
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That certain;ly looks like belt and braces to me, designed for tornados no less.
Great Work. Has the work top been sorted out at home yet m8 ?
I’d love to tell you that but I’m sure Adam will look forward to a show and tell next week mate 🤞🏼thanks for commenting
Could you not have just bolted a length of 4 x 2 on top of the steel and birds mouthed onto this?
Hi John thanks for commenting and Happy New Year to you. I did think about that but I decided that bolting into the web would be a better fixing and bolting on top would need to have been planned in advance to make sure the bolts didn’t end up being in the same place as a rafter. If you missed it in the video I only did the timber work the customers builder did everything else I just specified the timber web holes. 👍🏻
@@mrabuilders6723thanks for the reply. Nice job by the way,.
Did you notice the cat watching you from next doors bedroom window ?
Your dad looks younger than you Rich 😀
😁 retirement does that for you I reckon complete lack of stress but I hope I’m as able as he when I do reach his age which is a good while away yet thank you very much 😂
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Biggest fail with dans square is it’s only 1 sided. Prefer rob klevetts method of using a fence on a traditional square
I think I understand it 😂
Very nice work but seems completely overbuilt for the size of the roof. Of course I’m no expert as I’m only TH-cam certified 😂
TH-cam certified or not Chris your not wrong. I wasn’t involved as I said but I believe the foundations could have supported a block of flats. All a bit ridiculous for the size of it but what can we do 🤷
Building inspector is trying to justify his costs .....most are cluless never had a hammer in there hand ....
Bit of a poor show not having the steels cleaned and painted painted before being installed
you only wish 😛😛😛😛😛😛😛😛😛😛😛😛😛😛😛😛😛
Notice you still have a total disregard for H&S and saying it's to expensive is not good enough. It's all ok until someone gets seriously hurt or worse 😢
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What a waste on a steel, you didn’t need a steel in there. What a waste of money.
You don’t need to tell me. The whole job has been over spec. If they ask for it and it’s submitted to local authority what can we or customer do then 🤷🤷
Just do what’s on the plans and there’s no arguments, even if it is overkill.
Y steel ridge.y not a lamo beem
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Top builder screws not nails were posable. Lovely job.