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Single Storey Extension Stage 7 Cont. What comes next?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ม.ค. 2023
- In this video I explain why I left the velux openings until this stage, I'll complete the ladder frame ready for brickwork cut ups and go through the complete 'how to' when it comes to setting out your lath for tile gauging
Brilliant video. You explain how to set out a job to perfection. Not many builders take the care you do with your jobs. Thank you.
I always run my wall plates through to the outside skin , then you have something to fix your barge board to . Love the videos that you both do you can see that you like the banter which is what keeps us builders sane . 😅👍🏻
Hi Lee. If Im honest which we always are on the channel that was the first and last time I won’t run it all the way through it was a complete pain in the arse to fit my ladder frame rafter on my own without it there. Thanks for watching mate have a good week
Me too
Always open to new ideas
I’m a carpenter by trade but I’ve never done a roof, always worked internally abd 2nd fix (bar in college 20 years ago!). Just about to start the pitched roof on my own extension and this has been a fantastic reminder/education. Thanks 🙏
I have to say I am really enjoying your videos, I just wish I was still making similar ones but I have run out of projects and my wife tells me I am too old to start another lol. I did build a 40 sq m extension to my bungalow single headedly 4 years ago at the age of 75 including hand digging 130 ton of soil/clay/concrete etc so I can't complain. I did make a video if anyone is interested or thinks they are too old to start such a thing. Anyway keep up the good work
Cheers Michael I’m glad your enjoying our content and hope we can continue to keep you entertained. Your never too old to do an bit mate my Dad is 74 this year and he still loves getting his tools out. In fact if you look back through our content you’ll see him in the background on a couple of videos. 👍🏻
Omg I didn't know there was so much to roofing, I am impressed with your work and expertise
Cheers Sonia thanks for watching
My Sunday night complete, Sunday roast, glass of wine and watching you guys work… class tradesmen, keep it guys, it’s appreciated thumbs up 👍
Thank you for the comment and glad we can contribute to your Sunday. Thanks for watching 👍🏻
These roofing videos are incredibly interesting 👍
Many thanks for taking the time out to explain tiles etc. I learnt a lot there. 👍👍👍
Cracking video with great information 👍 so pleased to know their are tradesmen who care 😀 keep them coming 🤗
Thanks Tom cheers for the comment and thanks for watching
These are great videos mate. Thanks so much for sharing your expertise. 👌
Well done on the work and the quality of this video guys 👏👏 I’ve been watching your content since 4:30am this morning before I get ready to go work (in construction) and very much appreciate all the knowledge that you share throughout your projects 👍
Good morning Jermaine thank you for your comment its our pleasure mate. Thanks for watching 👍🏻
Excellent stuff, nice one Richard and the guys. Bit late this time to the vid - been saving it lol. Hugely informative on the tiles and laths for a landscaper with pretensions to be a builder. Keep 'em coming. Thanks again.
Cheers Lester and thanks for watching
Have to say, I was brought to your channel by TH-cam pushing your wonky patio/retaining wall video, and my initial thoughts were that you were a bit of a cowboy. I’ve watched this build progress and I’ve more and more come to realise that your standards are actually really high and I’m enjoying them. Completing a self build currently and building it to engineering rather than builder tolerances as it seemed finding someone to take the project on to a good standard was next to impossible after a proper dodgy cowboy starting it off so badly, along with countless bad experiences in other properties over the years....
Anyway, keep it up, really enjoying this now and the attention to detail is ticking all my boxes. 👍
Cheers for the comment and the continued support. Thanks for sticking with us and we are glad we’ve changed your mind about us. Thanks for watching 👍🏻
This is fantastic film. You're a natural
Thank you Martin your very kind and thanks for watching 👍🏻
Great job, a pleasure to watch and thanks for posting. Regards. Mike
Cheers Mike pleasure is all ours we enjoy doing it and receiving comments like yours. Thanks for watching. 👍🏻
Huge - big thank you guys...
Very enjoyable episode, you make it look easy.
Cheers Steve thanks for watching.
Really good video very well explained
Really enjoyed this video. Explained really well.
Perfect timing Rich 🎉
Enjoyed this video, nice workmanship, keep them coming 👍
Very good.
Very interesting.
Very helpful.
Cheers for the comment Tony it’s very much appreciated and thanks for watching. 👍🏻
Great video
Top wood work looks great 👍
Thank you Stephen cheers for the comment
Very informative video. Thank you very much
A great series. Really enjoyed it and learned a lot. Couldn't see how the rafters were attached to the wall plate though?
Bit of swearing going on ! Like that 😂 . Brilliant work as usual
Cheers Terry but that’s the first and last time I don’t run my bolted plate all the way through to the outside of the roof line like I always do. F@&king nightmare on my own. Thanks for watching. 😁👍🏻
Another top rate video keep up the good work
Really great explanation - thanks.
Another quality video
Thanks for watching Paul 👍🏻
Brilliant work gents
You’re having a laff pal, it’s called a batten😂👍🏻
A pleasure to watch as always unlike the dodgy accent 🤣 class work as always 👍🏼 😀
You’ve got me thinking now what the dodgy accent was. I’ll have to watch the video back now 😁 Thanks for watching 👍🏻
@@mrabuilders6723 🤣
I run my soffit on top of the brick work and then pin it down with those soffit blocks, so much quicker
Thanks for the comment 👍🏻
I always put my soffit onto block work and lock it in place with blocks. Great video.
Should have took your wall plate further to hold and support ladder section, there’s a risk of sagging on the corner once tiled, and should have extended main wall beam to fix ladder section on to and put wall starter underneath
Hi David. There’s a block at the bottom on the brickwork supporting the barge board rafter, it’s nailed and screwed into each noggin which has been built underneath when we completed the brickwork cut up and I can’t disagree with extending the bolted plate cos I have always done that but didn’t this time cos I thought I try this way to allow me to run the wall starter up further. However The plumb cut of it is sat on a piece of plate section and tight to the wall so I’m happy I’ll get no sag. Thanks for watching 👍🏻
Quality video
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Quality
How wide should you leave for velux/Dakea/key light
It will always say in the instructions but if I remember rightly a velux asks for 40-60mm wider than the window. Thanks for watching and commenting on our video have a great weekend 👍🏻
Another great video. Thank you! I have another question. Looking towards the extension from the garden, the LHS wall is in accessible due to the neighbours extension. What do you do about rendering the blocks in this case? Do they just sit without a covering? Cheers
Don’t forget to take out cement joint for lead cover flashing first it’s easier
Your Velux base plates and header plate should be doubled up same as your rafters , also roof should be sheeted with 12mm OSB boards then felted, counter batons on rafters then tile batons
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Very informative video. Regarding the squares nailed onto the sides of the rafters, you said they were to fix the soffit to. Would not be better to rotate them 90 degrees so you would be nailing into side grain not end grain? Just wondering..
I was thinking the same.
Hi Peefor. The reason for that is because the fascia fixings need to be more substantial and then you have gutter fixings as well. The soffit fixings only requires a couple of small screws to hold the soffit starter trim therefore end grain is pointing in this orientation. However, this is C24 treated timber and a couple of nails into end grain would have no detrimental effect. Thanks for watching 👍🏻
@@mrabuilders6723 Thanks for taking the time to reply. Most helpful and appreciated.
Very interesting, but as a non builder person I’m wondering how strong the fixings are connecting the rafters to the house wall plate, is it only nails holding them in place. I’m not criticising but it just doesn’t seem strong enough to me to take the weight. Thanks for making this video 👍.
Still no top birds mouth........the whole wait of the roof is being supported by the fixings, probably plasloade nails with the shear strength of a chocolate tooth pick. Using marley pan tiles adds a massive amount of weight at a guess about 1200kg. Velux windows 120kg x3. 1560kg all sitting on 3 nails per rafter nice.....
Double that weight when snows.
It's not though, is it. If you, you know, actually think about it.
It doesn’t quite work like that 😂 unless the new extension block work can physically move outwards, for the timbers to move DOWN they have to also move out due to the angle they’re cut at. If hey were a flat roof with no hangers yes this is a valid point, but as it’s pitched the timber can’t physically move downwards without lengthening, which makes it TIGHTER, helping the fixing rather than hindering.
Good lordy roo we've found someone who gets it!!! Haha! Cheers man, hope you're well.
There is no tie beam people which means the weight of the roof wants to push away from the existing building. Hence the top birds mouth which prevents this. Put a tie beam in and you wouldn't need a top birds mouth.
I'm about at this stage with my lean to extension roof. I have to construct a ladder at each end and made note that yo said you would use 120 x 6 screws. Are these screws special in any way? I have a supply of 100 x 6 stainless screws. The noggins will only be 200mm long for technical reasons. If you could reply I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you
Have enjoyed watching your progress.
Paul
Hi Paul glad you enjoyed it. Can’t remember the exact reason for the 120mm screws if I’m honest. 😁
What you need to make sure is that once it’s all fixed together that the brick work is built up around it and supports it properly unless when the weight of the tiles go on it it can drop. 👍🏻
@@mrabuilders6723 OK, I'm constructing ladders now. It will be a warm roof with zinc folded seam work above the insulation. I'm sure it won't weigh anything like tiles so I reckon I'm fine doing as I suggested. I have learned and been reassured massively by watching your progress. Thank you and your team. 👍
very good explaination but please when you vedio do it slowly recording.
Mr A . Would you mind talking about budgeting costs for a similar sized build? I know people don’t like talking prices but it might help someone think before deciding to move forward with a major investment like this.
Hope the health and safety don't see this video because you could be on course for hefty fine working without a scaffold
Top stuff RIch
Why don't you use truss shoes on the rafters at the house end to help take the weight of just the nails
Not necessary Steve. The only way the nails will fail is if the rafter was to push the main wall over first. I could understood the thought process if this was a floor because of the vertical loading but it’s different when there are pitches involved. This method has been used for more years than I’ve been alive so who am I to change it. Thanks for watching 👍🏻
Hi Rich and some great info on how to set out the laths in the video. The line your pointing to at 18.31 on the video, am I right in saying that this is the top edge of a lath and not a tile. Also at 8.07 on the video did you say where the kneeler's going, what did you mean by that?
Hi Kev. The lines I would have pointed to would have been top of lath and the kneeler is the tile kneeler feature we did to match the house but you’ll see that in the next episode where Adam builds it 👍🏻
@@mrabuilders6723 Thanks for the reply and video.👍👍
is this guy for real
How do you price an extension is it about 2700 a square metre these days
I generally price on material costs at the time and then how long it takes me to do certain tasks. Once I’ve worked it all out I will then generally have a look at what the price per square should be and then see where my quote sits in that. However, there are a lot of variables dependant on what your doing and where your doing it so the £PSM doesn’t always work 👍🏻
I would have put the top lath level with the end of the rafter , your going to have a 50-60mm gap at the top that the lead will eventually settle in to , you could fill it with mortar...
Hi Rob. Your correct in your assumption of what is now 40mm above tile to the wall gap but I used 300mm lead to dress down and it also sits on top of the abutment ventilation. That’ll be covered in two episodes time. Thanks for watching 👍🏻
I would recommend a good breathable membrane here, too many people buying cheap membranes thinking it'll be ok if I have fascia vents then abutment vents st the top but then your roof windows block any ventilation above and below them. Tyvec, Klober or Cromar be good choice as they require no additional ventilation
so do you have to put a lat + the thickness of a tile on the 1st row to keep the tiles at the same profile or not.?
That’ll be covered in the next roof episode and I’ll show exactly what I did 👍🏻
@@mrabuilders6723 champion, looking forward to it, thanks for reply
You should tell the bloke using the nail gun that you never shoot towards yourself!
Why are your velux trimmers plumb and not square to rafters? 🤔
Good morning. In the instructions of a roof window the bottom trimmer should go plumb and the top one go level. This aids the air flow around the window. However I don’t put the top one level as explained in the plasterboarding video later on because it’s a struggle to get it insulated and boarded properly so I put the top one plumb as well and trim in around it later. Hope this answers your question have a good day 👍🏻
@@mrabuilders6723 Ha. I've put dozens of roof windows in. I need to read the instructions more 😁
I know what you mean and it’s all changed again since the insulating regs 😁👍🏻
What about solid bridging?
How much will it be the cost plz for 8x4m
You can’t have timber touching brickwork without a damp course in between, moisture will travel onto timber constantly 🤦♂️doesn’t matter if it’s treated
I can see what your saying David and in any other circumstance like a base plate on a stud wall yes but under a wall plate? That’s a new one on me
@@mrabuilders6723 moisture from your brickwork and mortar bed will travel into your timber, you always should have a damp course between masonry and wood no matter where it is
@@Davidlouis3once the mortar is dry, there will be no further exposure to moisture. Think you’re chatting bubbles pal.
@@dankelly4976 you obviously don’t have a clue mate, there’s always moisture in every material especially mortar, brick concrete, and any timber material joined to it needs a dpc, dpm or coated In bitumen, been a builder 44years family are building engineers
@@Davidlouis3 is it a regulation? Sounds like you’re clinging onto some outdated and unnecessary practices there Dave. Kind of makes installing a DPM near ground level pointless if you’re gonna still have damp bricks on an internal wall over 2 meters high.
Down south we call it battens instead of laths 🤣
Hi Mr Silver. Ive watched videos from up north and they call them Lats. 🤷🤷 cheers for the comment and thanks for watching.
Will u put ladder frame on both sides of roof?
Hi Tim. If you watch the next episode it’ll show you why we won’t be putting a ladder frame either side. However, a ladder frame is needed for a barge board but on the other side we are running tiles over the brickwork and cutting the bricks to the line of the roof. Thanks for watching 👍🏻
@@mrabuilders6723 let's hope the sun shines for you 🙏
I wasn't bothered by the audio or the wind, it was the hsircut that was scary. 😀😃🙂
What pitch is next doors peg tile roof?
Sorry Chris I don’t know.
@@mrabuilders6723 looks low to me
A little bit toooo looowww
Length rafter how thick ta
ware s the joist hangers I this guy for real
At 4:13 😂🤯 shocking how that scaffolds middle standard has been spliced with swivels Bad practice.
Don’t you you use straps
Mmmmm
Scaffold brace sleeved out and uprights spliced together, they scaffolders are cowboys. 😢
hope hse isn't watching lol
less talk more action, was getting bored
We can’t please everybody and the whole theme of our videos is trying to tell people how we do things and unfortunately that means talking as well as doing. Thanks for watching
@@mrabuilders6723 you lost me with far too much explaining.
Maybe I’d be the same unless it was something I wanted to know about so maybe on this occasion we hadn’t grasped your full attention. Stick with us and hopefully we’ll keep you entertained on the next one. Have a good weekend 👍🏻