Why I *STILL* Think Cubing Is Dead
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.พ. 2024
- This is a condensed response to many of the comments that the original video got.
Original: • Is Cubing Dead?
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No, cubing is still not dying in any way. We’re just entering a new era, people get older and find interest in different things in life all the time. Also, I have no problem with you using a style of content that works and then repeating it, however making another video like this doesn’t do anything positive for the community
Yes that's what I want to here
You're comment is funny because you made a video about the end of it
Of course, everyone is going to get bored at some point and move on, but that's where we need new and exiting TH-camrs to come onto the scene (like yourself) and get people back into it.
The intent of this video isn't to harm the community, rather to reply to the many comments that the original got in a more concise/easily digestible way.
@@UK_Cuber but the youtubers didn't even slow down at all
Bro did not watch the vid 💀
I agree with this "New Era of Cubing" there are new top cubers, and new top TH-camrs creating. Its not dying, its expanding and changing
2:00 use R' F U' F' R
I mean, thanks for the advice but that is so random! 😂
I think that you might want to actually do research in trends like amount of new comers and people joining the hobby every year. It’s still increasing exponentially. I think that this style of video is so negative and harms the community especially beginners who just started. You can’t hide bad content behind a wall of good editing
Fair enough. All of my points are just theories on why cubing might be dying. Nothing is a definite reason and the intent isn’t to harm the community. It’s just this was a simple and easy way to get back into cubing content after taking a break.
personally its not youtubers that make the community alive, you can't know if a community is alive just by the views. its more about whether the community has stopped caring and moved on.
I agree to be fair. However new people will struggle to have anything to engage with if there aren’t large TH-camrs with consistent content.
@@UK_Cuber 100%, but what you're saying is as if a country's language wasn't taught, the country would be dead.
restarted cubing recently and though magnets were already a thing by the time I quit, seeing stickerless magnetic cubes without the traditional tensioning screws makes me feel like a boomer
my newest cube is an mf3 I got from a friend
Haha, wow. That must have been quite a long time ago that you quit??? Not even stickerless!
@@UK_Cuber by the time I quit my cubes were already outdated
in fact during my first and only comp I wanted a thunderclap and they gave me a v2 so I had to specify that I wanted a v1 which I still have
now I wanna collect cubes from 8-10 years ago
As of right now, I still cube a lot and work on videos when I’m not busy, but don’t watch cubing content (except for world class solve videos) as much as I used to. The Beluga Cubing “Skits” (in my opinion) left a huge scar on cubing videos attention spans with their fast cuts and flashy editing. I believe that’s what made the bigger cubing creators take a break, since there longer videos weren’t getting recommended as much as the fast stuff. As for the competitive side, I think Yiheng didn’t end it, since there are events that he can’t solve or is slower at, which is where other cubers come in. I also haven’t been paying much attention to new cube releases since the Guhong Pro, but I’m a bit excited to try Gan’s new 5x5x5. Since I’ve also been away from the cubing scene, I wouldn’t say it’s dying, but people aren’t receiving much updates because they’ve been away.
I didn't think about that at all but it makes a lot of sense. I guess when the older creators saw their watch times decreasing (potentially due to the "skit" style videos) it could have caused them to not want to continue.
On the competitive side, it's nice that there are other people dominating other events so that it's not just run by one person but considering the majority of cubers care the most about 3x3, it is slightly worrying.
Last compitition in my area was in 2017
skill issue
Honestly, fair enough.
Just so you know I watched both videos all the way through.
And I think it’s ludicrous to say any community is “dying.” Like: if a community for a certain video game gets fewer people, like among us for example, then many people will say “this game is dead” just because the game is less popular. But the servers still run people still play it, and there are many updates and mods that make the game BETTER.
The cubing community is like that; competitions still run, we have constant improvements in hardware, especially with side events, we have new discoveries made that improve solving methods (like OPA on 4x4, and the popularity with APB) we have non-WCA speed solving and new better puzzles THERE(diansheng’s gigaminx, and I heard they’re making an FTO soon), I could go on.
My point is: is the cubing community shrinking? Maybe. I haven’t looked at statistics so I wouldn’t know. Are some people getting bored? Of course! People get bored of hobbies and move on all the time.
Is cubing dying though? No. It’s healthy and it’s improving constantly
Thank you for watching both before leaving a comment! It's surprising how many people gave their opinions before watching the video! It seems like with that example, it *could* be argued that cubing is dying but I guess if there are still lots of people still enjoying it, then cubing is still alive.
Yeah, people will get bored of any hobby so that makes sense. But if nothing changes, could we see cubing continue to decline to a point of no return? Who knows!
quits cubing. comes back...causes a war. result : profit (;
My channel stopped monetising once I quit 😭. Can assure you I didn't make any profit.
Why are you lying?
I'm not... TH-cam disables all monetisation features if you don't upload 3 videos in the last 90 days. And considering my last video (before I came back) was over 6 months ago, I currently don't make any money from uploading.
So why are you farming views whats the point?
@@UK_Cuberbut that’s only temporary right? Surely if you make more videos they’ll realise you’re active again
why did you follow up the worst cubing video ever made?
are you trying to make a worse one?
Haha, sorry!
I agree with him cubing is dying
@@Randomvr9i kinda agree
@@Randomvr9 I disagree
so youre worng@@Randomvr9
I'm new here and I don't know anything about 'cubing' but this video seemed really interesting to me😄
Thanks!
@@UK_Cuber ;)
I still don't agree with you and seeing all the passionate responses is more proof that the cubing community is very alive. And you obviously know how to play the TH-cam game well :)
Yeah I see where you're coming from. People are still very passionate about cubing and I hope that stays the case. (If there's an open opportunity for views then why not haha)
Tighten your gan 12 and learn pll and how to sledge. Also did you not say that the gan 12 was a disappointment in your original video? (You posted it in a short)
Thanks for the advice! I said that it was a disappointment compared to the 11 in terms of innovation but as a cube it’s alright. Just think they could’ve done so much more with it
This feels too much like him just defending himself and not listening to peoples reasons on why it isn't. And if it really were for him to get back into making cube videos why make a video on the thing you are wanting to get back into dying?
After hundreds of comments telling me why an opinion is wrong it's hard not to want to defend myself but I see what you're saying. So maybe this video should have taken a different approach. Does that mean a part 3????? (jk I don't want to annoy this community any more!)
At this point you are just attacking the entire thing and should leave the entire drama alone. I feel that would do you best.@@UK_Cuber
Well this concludes that we won't know it till it arrive, but i think Mr.UK Cuber was in the right, he said maybe... not saying it would
Thank you for agreeing. Like you said, all of the points are just speculation of what *could* be happening.
@@UK_Cuber yeah, i see some comment saying it is still alive, there still are passionate cubers and whatnot. Yeah, it won't be on a complete halt, there would always be someone doing it, and even if it is dying you wouldn't notice it in an instant, it's gonna be a gradual process.. 'ing' said it all
I agree, there will always be people who continue cubing even if the majority slowly stopped.
I think he has strong points while most of you can’t agree but its personal opinion while he can make some bad videos that we dont agree but the guy makes very good videos so lets enjoy it
Thanks! Yeah it’s all just my opinion and so people are naturally going to disagree.
hey, if it allows me to improve my times secretively during this era, so that a sudden rise in cubing would start again and I'd be able to impress non-speedcubers and speedcubers alike with fast solves, then I approve of this "downfall" of cubing.
Haha, first person looking at the positives! Might join you on this one!
hey man but you made a good video for me to react too though and actually kinda agree with you 😂love your content though man!
Feel free to react! (And thank you)
@@UK_Cuber oh yeah of course! I did make a short about it but to be honest the editing in that one wasn't my best 😂
That short was good!
@@UK_Cuber Thank you! I was kinda rushed that day so I left the Descript watermark in there which makes my captions on accident lol
Nice
Thank you!
Thats a big analytics jump
Yeah a little bit!
I love the ending. Sorry (kinda)
Haha, thanks!
Thanks for making this video because it's very reasonable, and I would do the same. I still don't agree on the subject, but it doesn't annoy me that you don't think so.
Thank you! Despite having differing views it's nice that you still thought this was reasonable.
Bro forgot that you can make engaging content without being flat out wrong. Bro also plateaued in progress but he isn't bothering to learn the full method. I understand why you play the YT game but that's doesn't make your videos not toxic for the community. In the words of Jayden McNeill, "Get good."
Fair enough. This is just an opinion and it’s fine for you to disagree!
1:18 false
Ok...
Let's talk about this video
first off you talk about youcubing, and how supposedly when you started scripting the video, most buig youcubers weren't uploading? And your reason for not changing the script is because you thought no one would watch the video. So you're saying it's ok to lie to a smaller audience? Absolutely not true. Also I love how when you talk about youcubing, you purposely leave out Souptimmy, who's been growing really quickly on youtube. With that said, let's talk about some youcubing stats, viewership Because although some of these youcubers weren't the most active, viewers were still watching their content:
SoupTimmy: gained almost 2 million subs in 1 year (double his sub count)
Jperm: ~250k subs in 1 year, over 100 mil views in 1 year
Arisandra Soo: gained ~225k subs in 1 month (originally had ~25k)
Cubehead: gained: gained ~400 k subs in 1 year with ~ 225 million views in 1 year
Tingman: gained ~200k subs in 1 year, with ~ 130 million views in 1 year
cuberzn: ~100k subs in 1 year, 46 million views in 1 year (more than double his views from before)
cuberzn short: ~197k subs in 1 year, 111 mils in 1 year
TheCubicle: steady 50k growth in 1 year, 20 mil views in 1 year
There's also a youcuber from southeast asia who hit 1 mil subs, don't remember his channel name though
will admit tnlcubing, cyoubx, cubesolvehero, and cubingencoded didn't grow subs cause they didn't really upload.
So with that said youcubing is absolutely growing.
And with that said, yes, I will agree some people are quitting cubing, but at the same time there are so many more new cubers coming in at the same time.
So they are growing but... there is no new content. Which means that all of the people who have already watched the videos will likely have nothing to watch anymore. Therefore all of the older cubers who are not so new to these TH-camrs will get easily bored of having to watch the same old content or not watching any cubing content at all. Also, all of these new subscribers who are watching and enjoying their videos are going to be so disappointed when they realise that none of them upload anymore.
also forgot to add my biggest complaint, is with both videos you didn't use a single statistic as evidence...
Such as talking about tv3 being the last "popular cube" with no stats to back it up
etc.
if you're going to make a claim, show concrete evidence, not just your own opnions and assumptions
Oh yeah I hated that video. He clowned on the cube with no evidence as to why. Made me not want to buy it.@@CewbPianist
You have a few good points and a few bad points but yeah good job
I agree, some of my points aren't overly strong. But thanks!
Jperm fr carried cubing
Yeah
Nah
Ok…
please ignore the extremely excessive and unnecessary hate comments, some people in cubing community are very fragile. you're doing well on your channel, and you're entitled for your opinion ❤
Haha, don't worry they don't affect me! Just like you said all of this is just an opinion and no one else is obligated to agree!
some people in the cubing community are very fragile* not everyone went ahead and threw hate comments on the video, most were just respectfully discussing the topic
so yes, i guess those people who hated on him are kind of fragile but i wouldnt loosely generalize things like that
were still fucked
Your words 😂
You avoided the main points people were making in the video, though the points you did address, firstly that ? Thing does not apply to all of TH-cam, because they are just trying to get clicks, they aren’t actually asking a question, but you were.
Secondly if you put off making a video for months it might be a good idea to review the script and see if anything has changed.
Also you’re cherry picking easy responses, you ignored most things like organizers like myself having to organize more competitions that are bigger to compensate for the growing community.
Also most of the community doesn’t only practice 3x3, I see why you quit, because you were boring and only practiced one event, but the rest of us know how to actually enjoy a hobby
Lastly congrats, you got a bunch of views for your terrible takes, though if you’re a niche TH-camr for a specific community if you make the community hate you then they’re not going to watch your future videos, for example I used to watch your videos, but after this shit why would I continue to support you, and I know for a fact that many other people in the community think the same way because I have talked to other people that I know about it
I think that with the question mark, there are so many examples of creators asking a question within the title to try and get more people to watch. That is something that has been around on youtube for such a long time.
Yes, I fully agree. I should've reviewed the script to ensure it was up to date. I made a mistake, my bad.
I mean, if I'm making a video on why I think cubing might be dying it would be wrong to show the reasons that disagree with my point. Can you imagine if a world leader finished a speech with why they aren't the best candidate! It just wouldn't work.
I understand that you are likely to stop watching my channel now, and that makes sense. But there are a significant amount of people who agree with this video (and the original). My point wasn't to annoy everyone, I'm just giving *my opinion* on why cubing *might* be dying. This isn't a *definite reason* why cubing *is* dying.
@@UK_Cuber it’s sounds to me like there are a lot of points that proves your points wrong, you know that you’re allowed to just admit when you’re wrong, like if you realize that you’re wrong just admit it, people would respect you much more
@@SamSpeedCubes My opinion still stands. I believe everything I have said even if others don't. I know understand that people are so passionate about cubing and therefore it is not dying as fast as I thought it would but at some point everyone will move on, and without new youcubers or exiting WR's no one new will replace them.
@@UK_Cuber but this isn’t a matter of opinion, it’s a matter of fact, and the facts are against you, your opinion might be that your not enjoying cubing anymore, but your opinion can’t be that cubing is dying, because that isn’t an opinion it’s a fact, and a fact that is easily disproven just by looking at the growing size of the community, also the top comment on this video is a new up an coming youcuber, and there are a lot that you are just not seeing