Its just as cute that Woolie reassures Reggie about it after the fact. "Gumshoe is invincible, Gumshoe is unstoppable, Gumshoe is fine. Don't worry about Gumshoe"
13:18 Woolie come on, you really think anyone could just walk into court with a cheap-looking badge and just start acting like a lawyer without any red flags being raised? What judge would be stupid enough to fall for that? As if that could happen in Japanifornia, puhlease.
I don't know how much of an unpopular opinion this is, but Rise from the Ashes is my favorite Ace Attorney case ever. Being one of the last cases the original team worked on before moving to Apollo Justice, you can tell that they are pouring every ounce of the experience they gained working on the original trilogy here. It's complex, multi-layered and engaging all the way though, with very little in the way of filler. Sure, they were going all in with the whole Nintendo DS thing but that's something I am willing to see past if we get to play a case this good.
@@xalrath There's few places I find where the story itself actually drags, it's almost always interesting, but there ARE places particularly in the middle where the logic is just kind of not there and so you spend a LOT of time wandering around lost if you don't get it immediately. I am a BIT worried about that for this LP lmao
I definitely wouldn't say there's NO filler (you could cut Angel Starr & her involvement and miss basically nothing for how long you have to deal with her), but I still consider this one of the best cases in the series, and a good tie-in from the 1st game to the 2nd.
Pretty sure this is still the single longest case in the entire franchise (haven't played Investigations yet). Even later in the series when they start splitting the final cases in two (Dual Destinies and Great Ace Attorney) they don't get as long as this
36:20 School is almost all about memorization and regurgitating after all. I remember quite alot of top grade people aswell, who clearly didn't understand anything they were learning, but were great at perfectly reciting it. As far as averages go it actually tended to be the B+ type of students, who reliably understood it, but just didn't memorize it as well down to the letter. The typical A grade students either understood it and memorized it well enough or memorized and didn't understand at all, but still got the same grade, diluting the A grade student pool. And there was definitely a pattern of the people who were the most perfect at reciting stuff falling into the "but also not understanding it" group. If you got somebody who perfectly recited the exact textbook sentence, chances are that one did not understand it. The people who did understand tended to use their own words to describe things, not the perfect text book version.
22:37 Edgeworth,from deep within his closet,says "Objection! Your Honor,they were classmates. And,as historians have confirmed, they were very good friends"
I like it quite a bit but all the investigations are needlessly dragged out, all the witnesses are kind of annoying and Ema doesn’t hit the highs that Maya hit IMO like it’s a pretty mixed bag. What saves it is the killer who’s pretty much undefeated in terms of AA villains. Easily top 1 in the series imo. Lana is a very unique and well done defendant and it has some of the best Edgeworth and Phoenix stuff in the series, especially in the final trial, so it gets a pass.
Definitely one of my fav cases. While I don't care much for the DS gimmicks, the characters were pretty memorable and enjoyable and damn is it a beefy case. Looking forward to when Woolie gets more into it.
We heard you liked Maya 1.0, so we are now introducing Maya 2.0, now with high school forensics and a living sister. Coming soon, Maya 3.0: Pocket Edition
I never pictured Lana setting backwards and just rotating the chair when she does the dramatic Bon spin. Can tell this 2 love this game. Played the trilogy in spanish and can't remember what Phoenix said instead of "hombre" Lana and Ema Skye / Tomoe and Akane Houdzuki. Houdzuki mean "treasured moon" or "jeweled moon." Their english name is associating with the japanese phrase "akane sasu sora", meaning "a glowing sky."
With Manfred's gigantic 40-year win streak, I'm surprised he never became Chief Prosecutor. Hell, those stats would've made him perfect for Attorney General. Would've made a way better AG than Matt Gaetz before he backed down just earlier this afternoon, making my joke already dated as I waited for this part to get uploaded.
Manfred probably would not want the chief prosecutor job. He would likely consider any failures his subordinates made to be his failures. He would not be able to tolerate such marks on his flawless record.
Any bets on how long Woolie struggles with the orientation puzzle? I’m gonna say 20 minutes. Btw this is not a jab at Woolie being bad at video games or anything. It’s a jab at how bad the puzzle in question is.
There's a few things in this case that I cannot and will not give Woolie shit for. As cool as this case is, there's a lot of times where I watch someone play it and I just nod and go "yeah, it's actually that bad. That's not you, buddy, we all struggled here."
Fellas, if you can slug through this one, then you’ll be able to get through all of the games easy. It’s not the worst case, in fact I think it’s even a great one. But there’s probably only one other case in the series that is at least *as* notorious for being difficult to persist through as this one (and for different reasons).
@@agarciahunterHas anyone actually dropped the Ace Attorney series over Big Top Kek? Heck, I haven’t even completed RftA, I just skipped it and went straight to JFA (yes, it is THAT boring, I’m sorry).
One of the most perfect crimes in Ace Attorney, too. It took A LOT to even get close to the truth, no accidental slips which gave away the crime, almost everything was planned to a T
He is right though, to my knowledge no victim in the series’ corpse was mutilated or beheaded or de-limbed, part from maybe one that I can’t quite recall (also haven’t played GAA yet so not sure about that)
Guys, in detention centers, they usually have you sit in a stump chair, a chair without a back so it's just that round seat. More likely she's spinning on a stump chair to turn around
*Lana's chair mystery. All endings/options* 15:15 There is one way for her to be able to spin despite it not being a rotating chair, which is if she sat even more awkwardly with both of her legs already on the right side. Another way would be for her to very quickly tilt the chair or drop it on the floor for a moment and then quickly bring it up again after she stepped over it. Or yet another alternative would be if she just rapidly swung her left leg over to the right side and we just didn't see it because she did it so fast.
I played through Ace Attorney once in middle school and I remember this last episode better than any of the others. I am so hyped to relive it with these guys. I can't wait to see the reactions :3
Bro idgaf this case hits between the music, the twists, and the length. Catching the culprit after so goddamn long is almost as rewarding as the 3rd games finale. And the damn music is unsettling and great.
Why are you shocked about her being 16, Woolie? You are the one with the joke about how anyone 20+ in anime world is over the hill and may as be at death's door lol. This just tracks with that.
"Give it three years. Then we'll see what you have become." Wait a minute...did they actually set up the future plot points since the very first game? Thats actually crazy if so.
The first game, was originally for GBA back when it was Japan exclusive, and Rise From The Ashes wasn't a part of it. This case was added to the DS edition as a bonus, after the original trilogy had already been completed.
It was really cute how Reggie was instantly concerned about Gumshoe. I’m telling you these two love this game.
Oh yes
I really, really hope they finish at least the second game. The last case there, you KNOW the one, is probably the single best case in the series.
Its just as cute that Woolie reassures Reggie about it after the fact. "Gumshoe is invincible, Gumshoe is unstoppable, Gumshoe is fine. Don't worry about Gumshoe"
13:18 Woolie come on, you really think anyone could just walk into court with a cheap-looking badge and just start acting like a lawyer without any red flags being raised? What judge would be stupid enough to fall for that? As if that could happen in Japanifornia, puhlease.
People wouldn't do that, would they? People wouldn't go into a court and lie under oath right?
God, could you imagine?
Imagine if *two* judges were fooled into believing someone was a defence attormey? Jeez...
Nobody could just walk into court with a badge made of cardboard, you'd never see THAT happen!
I don't know how much of an unpopular opinion this is, but Rise from the Ashes is my favorite Ace Attorney case ever. Being one of the last cases the original team worked on before moving to Apollo Justice, you can tell that they are pouring every ounce of the experience they gained working on the original trilogy here. It's complex, multi-layered and engaging all the way though, with very little in the way of filler. Sure, they were going all in with the whole Nintendo DS thing but that's something I am willing to see past if we get to play a case this good.
it feels like it could have used an editing pass, in my opinion- theres bits in the middle that just kinda drag
Bud, I'm waiting with _bated breath_ for them to encounter Gant.
“With very little in the way of filler”
Lol. Lmao even.
@@xalrath There's few places I find where the story itself actually drags, it's almost always interesting, but there ARE places particularly in the middle where the logic is just kind of not there and so you spend a LOT of time wandering around lost if you don't get it immediately. I am a BIT worried about that for this LP lmao
I definitely wouldn't say there's NO filler (you could cut Angel Starr & her involvement and miss basically nothing for how long you have to deal with her), but I still consider this one of the best cases in the series, and a good tie-in from the 1st game to the 2nd.
Pretty sure this is still the single longest case in the entire franchise (haven't played Investigations yet). Even later in the series when they start splitting the final cases in two (Dual Destinies and Great Ace Attorney) they don't get as long as this
Great Ace 2's final case is longer, finally dethroning 1-5
Nah, 5-5 is the longest.
GAA2's final case is split in 2 parts, but the 2nd part is STILL longer than Rise from the Ashes
I wanna say 6-5 is longer. There's an entire 2 cases lol
FWIH AAI1 has a notoriously lengthy case that takes forever at the end
5:50 - "at least everyone in Phoenix Wright has only ever been bonked over the head or shot"
Haha. Ha. [looks at the one game rated M] yeah
36:20 School is almost all about memorization and regurgitating after all. I remember quite alot of top grade people aswell, who clearly didn't understand anything they were learning, but were great at perfectly reciting it.
As far as averages go it actually tended to be the B+ type of students, who reliably understood it, but just didn't memorize it as well down to the letter. The typical A grade students either understood it and memorized it well enough or memorized and didn't understand at all, but still got the same grade, diluting the A grade student pool. And there was definitely a pattern of the people who were the most perfect at reciting stuff falling into the "but also not understanding it" group.
If you got somebody who perfectly recited the exact textbook sentence, chances are that one did not understand it. The people who did understand tended to use their own words to describe things, not the perfect text book version.
22:37 Edgeworth,from deep within his closet,says "Objection! Your Honor,they were classmates. And,as historians have confirmed, they were very good friends"
"At one point, they may have even been roomates."
Is it safe to say, that Woolie and Reggie are hooked on Ace Attorney?
Hopefully!
Seems that way
I'm waiting to see how woolie plans it. If he said they need a break between games, that'd be fine
I hope they are, because I love watching them play it!
Unless this shit case makes them drop it.
I know it's not everyone's cup of tea. But this is still one of my fav 3 cases in the series.
I like it quite a bit but all the investigations are needlessly dragged out, all the witnesses are kind of annoying and Ema doesn’t hit the highs that Maya hit IMO like it’s a pretty mixed bag.
What saves it is the killer who’s pretty much undefeated in terms of AA villains. Easily top 1 in the series imo. Lana is a very unique and well done defendant and it has some of the best Edgeworth and Phoenix stuff in the series, especially in the final trial, so it gets a pass.
I honestly have to say I feel the opposite. It's 3 of my fav cases in the series.
15:25 Just imagining the sounds of the chair scraping against the floor as she turns around lmao
Definitely one of my fav cases. While I don't care much for the DS gimmicks, the characters were pretty memorable and enjoyable and damn is it a beefy case.
Looking forward to when Woolie gets more into it.
We heard you liked Maya 1.0, so we are now introducing Maya 2.0, now with high school forensics and a living sister.
Coming soon, Maya 3.0: Pocket Edition
Took me a second to realize you were actually referencing a character with that last bit, and I laughed when it came to me.
What about Maya 4.0 thief edition and Maya 5.0 magician edition?
Don’t forget Maya 0.5 from the Victorian era
@@sebastianbarrios7288 that would imply that maya 4.0 actually stole something.
@@DarthSpiderMario
I dunno, that version of Maya was a lot more polite and could defend herself from kidnappers with judo.
Love this case but get ready for a long one.
41:15 "Everyone's coming out of the Wild West!" "We've got a flapper!" 😅 He's a bit confused, but he's got the spirit.
now I kinda wanna draw Lana Skye sitting backwards in a chair
I never pictured Lana setting backwards and just rotating the chair when she does the dramatic Bon spin. Can tell this 2 love this game.
Played the trilogy in spanish and can't remember what Phoenix said instead of "hombre"
Lana and Ema Skye / Tomoe and Akane Houdzuki. Houdzuki mean "treasured moon" or "jeweled moon." Their english name is associating with the japanese phrase "akane sasu sora", meaning "a glowing sky."
Behold with the power of the DS!
Look upon the power of this *checks notes* 20 YEAR OLD console!
14:08
I did not expect Woolie and Reggie to roast Lana's backwards sprite lmao I didn't even think she was sitting at first
Yooo Woolie aint ready for the timeskip. Attorney Shippuden is gonna spin his head
With Manfred's gigantic 40-year win streak, I'm surprised he never became Chief Prosecutor. Hell, those stats would've made him perfect for Attorney General. Would've made a way better AG than Matt Gaetz before he backed down just earlier this afternoon, making my joke already dated as I waited for this part to get uploaded.
Your joke is older than Matt Gaetz's escorts. Tragic
Manfred probably would not want the chief prosecutor job. He would likely consider any failures his subordinates made to be his failures. He would not be able to tolerate such marks on his flawless record.
2:15 "The killer in danganronpa is always a naked guy."
This is the correct way to explain that, Woolie.
Any bets on how long Woolie struggles with the orientation puzzle? I’m gonna say 20 minutes. Btw this is not a jab at Woolie being bad at video games or anything. It’s a jab at how bad the puzzle in question is.
There's a few things in this case that I cannot and will not give Woolie shit for. As cool as this case is, there's a lot of times where I watch someone play it and I just nod and go "yeah, it's actually that bad. That's not you, buddy, we all struggled here."
@ It took me a good 20-30 attempts until it finally worked. You have to be pixel perfect with that stupid thing
@bladenight23 there's also the chance that he'll just get it no struggle. Those are the only 2 possibilities
Fellas, if you can slug through this one, then you’ll be able to get through all of the games easy.
It’s not the worst case, in fact I think it’s even a great one. But there’s probably only one other case in the series that is at least *as* notorious for being difficult to persist through as this one (and for different reasons).
Would that be the final case of Investigations?
@@thedazzolator3670"MY EXTRATERRITORIAL RIGHTS ARE TOO POWERFUL TO LET THIS CASE END!"
*Laughs in terrible clown puns*
@@agarciahunterHas anyone actually dropped the Ace Attorney series over Big Top Kek? Heck, I haven’t even completed RftA, I just skipped it and went straight to JFA (yes, it is THAT boring, I’m sorry).
@@thedazzolator3670 I haven't played Investigations so I wouldn't know.
This case alone safely doubles the length of the game, but it still has some of my favorite characters, music, and overall structure.
One of the most perfect crimes in Ace Attorney, too. It took A LOT to even get close to the truth, no accidental slips which gave away the crime, almost everything was planned to a T
Much like my mega Phoenix Wright fan friend told me, "I'm interested to see what you think of Case Five."
So far? No crazy murders, Woolie.
Yet.
They get WILD.
He is right though, to my knowledge no victim in the series’ corpse was mutilated or beheaded or de-limbed, part from maybe one that I can’t quite recall (also haven’t played GAA yet so not sure about that)
@@DarthSpiderMarioSomeone chopped up a robot with a sword once, but it got reassembled.
That’s true but I was just thinking of human victims
Ah yes, the marshal from the great state of Tex-okkaido
Guys, in detention centers, they usually have you sit in a stump chair, a chair without a back so it's just that round seat. More likely she's spinning on a stump chair to turn around
You can actually see the back of the chair though. I think she's just supposed to be standing.
35:35
I had an immediate flashback to "I, Robot" here because at this line i legit thought: "You are the DUMBEST 'smart person' i have EVER SEEN!"
"Let's debate" says Reggie.
>Aristotle Means has entered the chat
Dual Destinies isn't real. I refuse to acknowledge that game.
*Lana's chair mystery. All endings/options*
15:15 There is one way for her to be able to spin despite it not being a rotating chair, which is if she sat even more awkwardly with both of her legs already on the right side. Another way would be for her to very quickly tilt the chair or drop it on the floor for a moment and then quickly bring it up again after she stepped over it. Or yet another alternative would be if she just rapidly swung her left leg over to the right side and we just didn't see it because she did it so fast.
I fucking love Skye-ance.
21:27 FFS guilty people still get to have lawyers!
"No one's tried to dismember a body at any point!"
Aaaaand I just started laughing uncontrollably
Good one, Woolie
I played through Ace Attorney once in middle school and I remember this last episode better than any of the others. I am so hyped to relive it with these guys. I can't wait to see the reactions :3
Bro idgaf this case hits between the music, the twists, and the length. Catching the culprit after so goddamn long is almost as rewarding as the 3rd games finale. And the damn music is unsettling and great.
Why are you shocked about her being 16, Woolie? You are the one with the joke about how anyone 20+ in anime world is over the hill and may as be at death's door lol. This just tracks with that.
The more shocking thing is that the series actually allows her to age with subsequent games.
I'm the step beyond Christmas Cake according to Japan
@@enlongjones2394 I'm down bad for Apollo Justice Ema.
I’ve always loved this case. And the villain has such a satisfying take down
everyone in this case look like a One Piece marine to me idk why
Oh they were so roomates.
Turnabout Goodbyes and Rise from the Ashes are absolutely peak Ace Attorney. I can't wait to see how they like it.
Marshall is 100% the type to have a Buc-ee Beaver plushie at his desk despite never having been to Texas. Or a Buc-ees.
best case in the game :]
Maya-Ema Horseshoe Theory is difficult to disprove. Scientifically speaking, of course.
Welcome to the next 50 to 70 percent of the game.
And so it *begins...*
This is one of ny favorite cases.
Gumshoe is safe. All is wright with the world.
26:40 The Coolest Guy!
Oh! We’re doing this? Let’s go!!
I guess Pheonix just can't bring himself to investigate a case without a teen by his side to chat with 😅
If there isn't at least the potential of Mia bailing him out he gets anxious.
Yeah being T-rated somewhat precludes the use of LA Noire level gruesomeness.
Ema "facts dont care about your feelings" Skye.
"Give it three years. Then we'll see what you have become."
Wait a minute...did they actually set up the future plot points since the very first game? Thats actually crazy if so.
The first game, was originally for GBA back when it was Japan exclusive, and Rise From The Ashes wasn't a part of it. This case was added to the DS edition as a bonus, after the original trilogy had already been completed.
The characters and mechanics introduced in this case will also vanish until Apollo Justice lol.
Is that the lil yachty hardest walkout thumbnail?