Really appreciate Tom listening and responding to Joey in the final scoring. Not that anyone is bad, but it just felt so genuine and from a place of curiosity. Great collaboration on the video for a collaborative game.
As someone who really enjoys poker, but other players doesn't really play seriously without money, and i don't want to play too brutally against my friends while playing with some money, i think I'd really enjoy this. It would be a good exercise practicing hand strength and range in poker while having fun with friends I'd guess
Part of playing poker is learning to evaluate hand strength/put your opponents on ranges (in this case, your teammates), so this seems like an interesting way to try and teach people how to do that. Yes I think there will be a bit of that "there's no way to tell whether my weak hand is better or worse than my teammate's weak hand", and because you can never fold in this game you'll see that happen quite often (although weak hands can improve more often in this game because you see all 5 cards), but maybe that's where comparisons with The Mind make sense. You kind of learn an inherent sense of rhythm and improve game sense to where it becomes possible. It seems to live in an interesting crossroads between playing an isolated game and "practicing" skills for a different game (poker). I can see people who don't care about poker and don't want to learn how to evaluate hands just bouncing off the game completely, but "bite-sized cooperative poker" does seem like there will be an audience for either existing poker players, or people who "always wanted to learn how poker works". Curious to try it myself with my poker friends.
Awkward framing trying to get the logos on the front in there. It would look better if the top of the table were closer to the bottom of the frame. (By zooming in)
We played 6 player and won about 80% of the time. We added an additional challenge card each time we won to make it harder...and still won. We then kept adding additional stacked challenges until we lost 3 times. Our last hand had 7 stacked challenges!
I played this and my knowledge of Poker was very limited at the very beggining. I've enjoyed the game very much! And it has taught me a lot about Poker! After a few games we have developed a much deeper understanding of hands and values. It's also important to say the chips mean very different things and should always reffer to a very specific game state. It's a good idea to watch when a player goes for higher or lower chip - in combination with new cards beying revealed I can better understand what cards and what type of poker hand the player has.
I was looking forward to a review of this because i have the same doubts like Tom: the ranking system feels too vague. With The Crew, you get info from the cards being played as well with the communication token, but without those boons Chris talked about, i'm not sure there is really a good way to deduce other people's hands. I'd still like to try this one, but unsure if I wanna buy it just to do so.
OK, so, yes, you really need a familiarity with poker to play the game well. In regular poker, however, which I have played a considerable amount of, you are encouraged to have a "poker face", to have no "tells". Here, not so much. You actually want everyone else to know what you have. I play a number of other card games in which I frequently have to say, "Excuse me, no board talk." Which is, as frequently, ignored. This game is rife with the potential for "board talk". From what I have seen, those who have claimed that it is to easy are those who have had too much "board talk". Yes, if automatons were playing the game based on just the choice of chips, that would work. But we're not dealing with automatons. Don't get me wrong, I think that with the right group of players, this would be a great game.
11:30 Was that "I don't know who's higher" intentional? Because if not subconsciousness rocks, and if it was - kudos. Still getting used to the news anchor table, but it's really pretty in a classy sort of way. My complements to the internal designer.
If this is real poker hands, the pair 7s and pair 5s wouldn’t work because the pair jacks are on the flop. A hand is the strongest hand, so the 2 jacks stay and the two players split the pot on the pair 7s. So they both end up with two pairs
After Tom initially explained the game, I immediately put it in my cart. It seems cool, especially if your playgroup has good poker experience as mine does. But the game not seeming to help eleviate that vagueness in hand variations of having a 2-3 vs. 2-4 has me second guessing. I guess for $11, it’s worth trying.
It‘s a handicap if you play Poker - you‘d be playing the potential of your hand, which you must not do with „The Gang“. I‘m sure it can absolutely be a blast!
Playing poker only makes sense when there's really something at stake. Only then do people behave the way they do and you can start to read facial expressions and gestures. Everything else is kindergarten and pointless for poker.
@@wolflarson71 sorry I should have put a timestamp. I was referring to Tom's statement that he likes to play poker from time to time, but only without stakes.
Really appreciate Tom listening and responding to Joey in the final scoring. Not that anyone is bad, but it just felt so genuine and from a place of curiosity. Great collaboration on the video for a collaborative game.
As someone who really enjoys poker, but other players doesn't really play seriously without money, and i don't want to play too brutally against my friends while playing with some money, i think I'd really enjoy this. It would be a good exercise practicing hand strength and range in poker while having fun with friends I'd guess
Part of playing poker is learning to evaluate hand strength/put your opponents on ranges (in this case, your teammates), so this seems like an interesting way to try and teach people how to do that. Yes I think there will be a bit of that "there's no way to tell whether my weak hand is better or worse than my teammate's weak hand", and because you can never fold in this game you'll see that happen quite often (although weak hands can improve more often in this game because you see all 5 cards), but maybe that's where comparisons with The Mind make sense. You kind of learn an inherent sense of rhythm and improve game sense to where it becomes possible.
It seems to live in an interesting crossroads between playing an isolated game and "practicing" skills for a different game (poker). I can see people who don't care about poker and don't want to learn how to evaluate hands just bouncing off the game completely, but "bite-sized cooperative poker" does seem like there will be an audience for either existing poker players, or people who "always wanted to learn how poker works". Curious to try it myself with my poker friends.
Awkward framing trying to get the logos on the front in there. It would look better if the top of the table were closer to the bottom of the frame. (By zooming in)
Yeah awful job
We played 6 player and won about 80% of the time. We added an additional challenge card each time we won to make it harder...and still won. We then kept adding additional stacked challenges until we lost 3 times. Our last hand had 7 stacked challenges!
How much communication though to win 80%?
I played this and my knowledge of Poker was very limited at the very beggining. I've enjoyed the game very much! And it has taught me a lot about Poker! After a few games we have developed a much deeper understanding of hands and values. It's also important to say the chips mean very different things and should always reffer to a very specific game state. It's a good idea to watch when a player goes for higher or lower chip - in combination with new cards beying revealed I can better understand what cards and what type of poker hand the player has.
I was looking forward to a review of this because i have the same doubts like Tom: the ranking system feels too vague.
With The Crew, you get info from the cards being played as well with the communication token, but without those boons Chris talked about, i'm not sure there is really a good way to deduce other people's hands.
I'd still like to try this one, but unsure if I wanna buy it just to do so.
i like the bar, much better than the little IKEA couches. the 'all play' logo is obnoxiously large
Hey Joey and Chris - I like poker and would love to play this with you. Deal me in! 😃
OK, so, yes, you really need a familiarity with poker to play the game well. In regular poker, however, which I have played a considerable amount of, you are encouraged to have a "poker face", to have no "tells". Here, not so much. You actually want everyone else to know what you have. I play a number of other card games in which I frequently have to say, "Excuse me, no board talk." Which is, as frequently, ignored. This game is rife with the potential for "board talk". From what I have seen, those who have claimed that it is to easy are those who have had too much "board talk". Yes, if automatons were playing the game based on just the choice of chips, that would work. But we're not dealing with automatons. Don't get me wrong, I think that with the right group of players, this would be a great game.
The crew, the gang, next up the bros, the homies, the dudes, cheese bags 😂
The game that breaks The Dice Tower. Great review
11:30 Was that "I don't know who's higher" intentional? Because if not subconsciousness rocks, and if it was - kudos. Still getting used to the news anchor table, but it's really pretty in a classy sort of way. My complements to the internal designer.
If this is real poker hands, the pair 7s and pair 5s wouldn’t work because the pair jacks are on the flop. A hand is the strongest hand, so the 2 jacks stay and the two players split the pot on the pair 7s. So they both end up with two pairs
did you the person who dumps the games he reviews onto the ground damaging and bending pieces just remark on the "Scuffed Cover"??
But what if you hate The Mind, but love poker?
Sounds like 3-4 player is the sweet spot.
After Tom initially explained the game, I immediately put it in my cart. It seems cool, especially if your playgroup has good poker experience as mine does. But the game not seeming to help eleviate that vagueness in hand variations of having a 2-3 vs. 2-4 has me second guessing. I guess for $11, it’s worth trying.
This would be like if you added a poker chip mechanism to Chess... and makes it cooperative? Why?
It‘s a handicap if you play Poker - you‘d be playing the potential of your hand, which you must not do with „The Gang“.
I‘m sure it can absolutely be a blast!
Playing poker only makes sense when there's really something at stake. Only then do people behave the way they do and you can start to read facial expressions and gestures. Everything else is kindergarten and pointless for poker.
Poker in this case is just a vehicle to harness group comradery that exists in coop games like The Mind, The Game, The Crew, etc.
@@wolflarson71 sorry I should have put a timestamp. I was referring to Tom's statement that he likes to play poker from time to time, but only without stakes.
BORING!!
Like the mind just another dumb 50/50 game. Only this is more convoluted because it's poker. There's nothing strategic about random chance.
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