How a nuclear war starts: Second-by-second timeline | Annie Jacobsen and Lex Fridman
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Annie Jacobsen is an investigative journalist and author of "Nuclear War: A Scenario" and many other books on war, weapons, government secrecy, and national security.
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Guest bio: Annie Jacobsen is an investigative journalist and author of "Nuclear War: A Scenario" and many other books on war, weapons, government secrecy, and national security.
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Nice it's launch on sight if they see something when they admit there's uap's flying about. Sweet dreams guys
What kind of Meditation involves contemplating? Meditation is the science of clearing your mind and withdrawing from the senses.
@@Mac-qi5nzUAP don’t give the signature that a ICBM does (Burning Fuel). Unless you know something about UAPs I don’t.
There was another pod cast or interview on this matter but the pentagon guest wouldn't disclose or elude to classified technology that would be able to block part or mitigate most nuclear strikes. The pentagon's UAP or ARV tech is another reason for nondisclosure.
6 minutes, that's barely enough time for congress to get their stock trades done.
Please, they made those trades days ago ;)
6 minutes, wonderful! That should give Biden enough time to piss twice, mention something unfathomable, inappropriate, creepy and/or unrelated to whatever is going on, so we MIGHT fire back, but the inbound missiles would be overhead by that time. I imagine though, if Biden gave the military ANY issues returning fire, someone would cap him and do it themselves, prior to forcibly acquiring his codes.
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It's auto launch on site at the sane time they tell us "There's uap doing hypersonic speeds in our atmosphere" guys. Sweet dreams 😂
@@johnjacobjingle846 lol so correct :)
She even sounds like Sarah Connor
Omg she does!!!😂
Damn bro I can't unhear it now😅
No Fate
“If you can hear this message, you are the resistance”
Truth! 😂
To think we could go from everything being ok to the world completely destroyed in an hour is terrifying.
It only takes two people from opposite sides to unalives a billion more people.
It happened before.
We are not ok.
@rankalot Everything is not ok.
@@johnkelly3886 Sure it is. Relative to nuclear destruction things are fantastic!
As Nicole Kidman said in "The Peacemaker" (1997): I am not scared of a country with hundreds of nukes. I am terrified of the man who only wants one.
You’re talking about a woman who eats bugs?
@@lhmomas1550get..a..life
@@lhmomas1550super relevant, good comment
Ohh the US, the most peaceful country ever. Why would you be scared of them? Just only addicted to weapons and violence.
@@hstrangemusic irrelevant like the OG post
We're all fucked, buy My book
Nah, life is good dude!
I get what you're saying, but fuck it my man. Keep on keeping on live life.
Watch a neil breen film and have few beers.
😂😂😂
Nailed.
@@niallkennedy23it's launch on site when they tell us "There's uap doing hypersonic speeds in our atmosphere" so he's right
@@niallkennedy23I’m right there with you.. living life afraid is no life at all
Her voice is so soothing I fell asleep to a nuclear nightmare description.
Personally I kind of like her hair😅
😂😂🤯
Lol
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Same
"If the probability of something happening is greater than ZERO, then the only other factor before it happens is TIME."
Bingo. And some use Probability of Detection in addition to Consequence. Both are going up rapidly so that the price paid is also increasing.
Murphy’s law man, anything that can go wrong eventually will
we running out of time. we should be disarming these nukes for future generations
Thems the stats. Might as well be a law of the universe.
We need to get these people out of power and put people in power that are so against nukes it's unreal
this video is 34 mins long and its crazy to think the world could be over in the short time it took to watch
Ohhh. Ok, that's an interesting way to make it a little more real.
I live in New Zealand. So will be eating popcorn while you lot fry. It maybe radioactive popcorn but I'll survive several years longer as have a doomsday bunker
@@brobinson8614 Enjoy 😂😂
@@brobinson8614did you ever watch "on the beach"?
Hahahahahaha
Imagine they detect a launch when Joe is taking his senior nap.
Can they even wake him up in 6 minutes?
Doesn’t work anymore. Now we know Trump’s “executive time” was nap time. Just like he does in court. The trump slump.
Read her book yesterday. Chilling update to information I already had learned. At 71 I realized we have little hope at this time of our civilization of continuing humankind.
Yes but look at humankind. Look at the actual state of it. Look at the idiots in the street with the false lip implants and the eyelashes, ti the idiots in charge of the world governments. Look at the conflicts going on due to individual mad men. It’s actually time to press the button. All hope is lost.
I agree. 99% of people are walking around clueless. 30 yrs ago, at least everyone was aware. Now I’m told Russian rockets won’t fly straight. This is how it ends.
Is that really such a bad thing? We are the only animal on earth that is actually cruel... No other animal acts like us
@@vandal1764tell that to the fox in the hen coup, or the cat and her regular doorstep offerings. Or the dogs that run off lead to disappear down badger dens. Don’t be fooled by the left id3ology that tells you humans are bad, humans are canc3r. Were no worse or better than the rest of nature.
Capitalism
It is better to have 500 years of negotiations than one hour of nuclear war.
Orginal quote:
‘It is better to have ten years of negotiations than one day of war’
Andrei Gromyko
That assumes that both parties want to negotiate.
History shows that's an incorrect assumption.
PUTIN IS COUNTING ON THIS
FEAR
RULES
SOOO IT IS BETTER TO HAVE TRUMP AS PRESIDENT BECAUSE HE WILL TALK AND BE ABLE TO BE TRUSTED AND TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE TO AND UNDERSTAND
No one is more fascinated by the way Annie Jacobsen tells a story, than Annie Jacobsen.
Bruh😂😂😂😂😂
Why does it appear that Lex and Annie have the inverse skull and bones (anatomical structure)? I'm sure these people are to be trusted. I'm also quite certain that Nukes are completely and utterly real and aren't a giant hoax and mockery just like everything else.
It's her JOB!! Leave her be man.
Is she there to get Lex's opinion on everything? He's interviewing her, she's a writer, they tell stories for a living, so criticize her for being a good storyteller???, Be it fact or fiction. I agree, she's not for everyone, her Kindergarten teacher voice can be annoying, yes.
Riiiiight. Ugh
The irony is that she has such a soothing voice describing the end of the world in the most devastating way.
I know I couldn’t be more relaxed !!
One man can give the command to launch Nuclear weapons.
Think of the countries with Nuclear weapons that have a mad man in charge.
or a doddering old fool who doesn't know where to walk half the time, and can't talk without a teleprompter
They’re all nuts.
Or a dementia patient
Sounds like America.
Men in dresses decorated as 4 star generals.
Wonderful episode to view before bed!?!
Pray we can all coexist in a positive and peaceful manner
I’m not afraid of death but watching my family die slowly from radiation poisoning is terrifying.
You're afraid of death and a liar
*BS''D it wont happen, BS''D don't worry*
Most people will die from 3rd degree burns
The rest will die of starvation caus the cant eat radioactiv food.
Any survivors will die in the civil war for resources/food after the apocalyps
If your not in a large Goverment Bunker Complex you cant make it.
The earth will turn freezing cold for 3 years or decades. No food will grow. No Animals you can hunt.
Especially when you know your hands are tied. What can you tell the loved ones.
Definitely, the billionaire's building luxury Bunker's, is definitely an example of rich people not understanding the aftermath!
MY dad loaded nuclear bombs and missiles on aircraft in the 1960s, (Cuban missile crisis!) Then my brother worked Boomer's (nuclear missile subs) 1980s then spent 30 yrs testing them DARPA! Few military or scientists even know if most of these weapons will blow! 😅 💥🚀
I don’t know why this guest is getting dragged so hard in the chat. she has approached this issue earnestly and with great intellectual curiosity, and reported the results of her investigations and interviews with a great degree of journalistic integrity. thank you annie for a fascinating discussion.
Aside from the obvious answer (she is shedding light on a subject most people have no control over and would rather not think about if they can help it). I think the reason she rubs me the wrong way (and I only speak for myself) She seems to be using sensationalism to drive book sales. An example is when she contradcits herself by saying these nuclear submarines are virtually indetectable, yet she found documents mapping the locations of foreign nations subs off our coasts. All in order to illustrate how scary the subject is and how little control anyone has to prevent it.
Just my $0.02
She's generally full of shit and presents things without context that makes the topic seem far more grave and less calculated than it actually is...
It lacks scientific merit.
th-cam.com/video/ZobEjtrriXU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=bJrqppleUlXvcCl8
The answer to why anyone drags anyone online is usually the same all around.
I just finished listening to this book on Audible, and it was amazing. I did wonder how the southern hemisphere was affected though.
I thought the Triad was: 1) Land Launched 2) Air deployed and 3) Submarine Launched?
Everyone in the comments saying she's too animated in her speaking delivery can suck my bollocks, the importance of this conversation couldn't be more overstated, people should be appreciative that there are people out there keeping us in the know. Great podcast.
Read a book. There's nothing new here.
@@glib4233 agreed there is nothing new here. However, millennials and gen z 'rs are mostly post modernist. Even Tim Pool and his like, think you can survive nuclear war. Joe Rogan has also stated similar sentiments. He even stated, modern nukes don't leave fallout or radiate the land. Its indicative of modern day ignorance. Listen to Lex in the full podcast, he is surprised by all this info, which used to be common knowledge since the 60's.
Mind Begs the Question:
- If those who defend Apartheid
- Possess Nukes,AI,Digital Money
- Police of World or Threat to World?
The people complaining about her voice took the time to listen.
They're just hating on her. Nothing new but, its great to get the message out to as many as we can who wouldnt otherwise know.
That being said, she knows her shiet.
"The Day After" 1983 and even better movie "Threads" 1984 shows most of what comes along with and after nuclear war. The second mentioned has a textual ending disclaimer before the end credits: "The film is fictional. The real-life outcome of a nuclear war would be much worse than the events portrayed onscreen".
Try finding the 2 season CBS series JERICHO
Yes and did a good job of creating fear.
I’ve seen both and Threads terrified me more. I had nightmares for years afterwards!
I think about Threads every day now.
We need a re make, right now.
Fantastic interview/ discussion. I downloaded her book immediately after listening
if lex and annie had a kid, that kid would have the most soothing voice of all time and certainly make billions in the audiobook reader industry 😂
This is what the 50’s was like in schools across North America
No, in the 50’s they taught kids that they would be OK if they got under their desks and covered their heads.
there is an awesome series of documentary on netflix,watched it last night. turning point
@@paints_his_shirt_red .. In the very early 1960's my elementary school's hallways were lined with pegs for coats and small personal lockers in the walls. There were accordion type doors in the halls that would open and close to expose an entire classroom's pegs and lockers. Our nuke drill was to pack ourselves inside those accordion doors. I always felt sorry for y'all poor suckers who were doomed by hiding under their desks while we would be able to ride out the blast and fire storm in safety.
that was terrifying as I recall.
WAIT!... THEY HAD LEX back THEN?!?
I was a 15E10 Pershing Nuclear Missile Crewman in the US Army ... I was in Germany 79-82 and we had P1 Pershing Tactical Battlefield Nukes ... I was a Crewman who helped launch that Nuke if that call ever came thru.
This lady knows her stuff 💯% .. it's better to be in Ground Zero once the flash goes off you just turn into instant carbon .. no way I want to survive this bs.
I wan too I’m man enough bruh
And your carbon instantly turns into carbon dioxide, which is really bad for the environment! Thanks for ruining our planet with your selfish CO2 inferno! 😂
Yeah, let's get over this and be done with it.
@bruhbruhh5103 Bless your heart. Here's hoping you/we never have to find out just how wrong you are
@@bruhbruhh5103you a 304
I lived through this in 80’s when we had drills at school hiding under desks - honestly did not think I will hear it all again. Those drills and propaganda with graphic photos never left my mind.
Dying in the immediate isn’t the scariest part it’s the surviving that’s terrifying.
I went to a grade school in the late 50's early 60's that was built on top of steel I beams, 20 feet up in the air. As we got under our desks we all knew how exposed we were and how silly the drills were.
It's literally designed to be this way. You are supposed to be absolutely terrified of it. That's the whole point.
Didn't Helen Caldicott do the same narrative back in the 80's?
Yup it a classic narrative, she’s not the first to claim detaining the truth about Nuclear warfare to sell books and speeches.
@@bo1341your denial of basic facts has to make you a psyop operative. You can't be this naive.
I realized recently that some of the nightmares I had as a child were cold war related. Strange to think about it all these years later.. S.
@@stevengill1736your comments makes me wonder how much of this stuff stays in our subconscious, we all know about nuclear weapons growing up. Best not to think about it too much i guess
My formative years spent in the 70s and the 80s, a lot of this is hardwired into my brain from all the attention it was given during the height of the Cold War. Still, with these details your guest provides., it’s quite sober to hear.
Definitely, the billionaire's building luxury Bunker's, is definitely an example of rich people not understanding the aftermath!
MY dad loaded nuclear bombs and missiles on aircraft in the 1960s, (Cuban missile crisis!) Then my brother worked Boomer's (nuclear missile subs) 1980s then spent 30 yrs testing them DARPA! Few military or scientists even know if most of these weapons will blow! 😅 💥🚀
@@j.dunlop8295 Agree,
“Dial a Yield” Tactical Gravity Bombs we “can’t” test.
Let’s put them on F-35s in Europe!
It’s scary to know how many insane people there are in this world.
Great book, highly recommended if interested in the subject of nuclear war/end of the world ideas. I’ve been into this since high school in the 90’s and seeing a movie called The Day After.
This book also freaked me out! Because of how fast could happen. Grew up in northern MN on the ND border in a very small town called Fisher. It’s even shown in the movie War Games. Used to go to the air shows every summer. Grandparents lived in far western ND, as time went on found out how many of the ICBM’s sights were on the side of the road.
It’s amazing how fast it could all end…
What concerns me is the number of people wanting to go toe to toe with Russia. It's like politicians and the media don't consider the possibility. A lot of us grew up with the threat of nuclear war hanging over our heads.
Yes, insane...some politicians basically saying... "don't worry about talk of nuclear war from the other side, we can't let that affect our approach."
I am terrified about this and every time I express that we want an end to that war since we should not allow humanity to end at no matter cost, they praise more and more our politicians fueling the war and talking about direct intervention from NATO in the war
I heard people in the internet saying that Russian nukes don't work. I heard Russians on the internet discuss how they would nuke that country or that country. I don't even talk about how upset some Russians are that Putin didn't nuke Ukraine to save lives of Russian soldiers
The truth is that russia has no nukes. Not anymore. While NATO's nukes will reach their targets minutes before ruskies can even launch. What you really need to warry about is the conventional war with russia and then china if putin is not stopped now as many American troops will be sent there to fight.
Putin and Trump both have the vainglorious personality to do it--even for sat. Giving up power. Or getting a fatal diagnosis and just saying "If I can't be here, no one can!"
Jealous of life and willing to annihilate all humanity.
The two of them. The tone of this interview is so calm and measured, it's like they're discussing a book about global economics.
And that is a good thing. What are they supposed to do? Cry, lament, sprinkle ashes on their head and self-flagellate? Calmness and objectivity is the ONLY way to approach this subject. The facts are horrifying enough without theatralics.
And global economics might be the cause of a nuclear war. LoL
Or how to achieve nirvana....
I fell asleep on three different plays of this, it wasn’t until my 4th play that I got through end to end without falling asleep 😅
My father worked with Nuclear Submarines munitions. Used to scare the hell out of us as kids in the early 90s.
This is one of those genies that won't go back into the bottle. I also know that if one side think it can win a nuclear war then that is the path to war. So I don't really know what me or anyone can do about it. So I just get on with enjoying my life, not worrying about it (I live close to an airfield so I wouldn't survive anyways) and hoping for the best.
I love how lex "clips" are longer than most TH-cam videos 😂
Her books must be like a set of Encyclopedia Britannica's. From 1983.
Underrated coment 😂
They are both speaking sooo slowly, I'm not surprised this 'clip' is very long.
@@DW-dd4iw Normal… calm down
It's hard to sum up wisdom in clip form. Most TH-cam channels are intellectually challenged, so you can't expect much. If I've learned anything in my short 40 years, it's that the human condition is always disappointing! If for nothing else than the fact that we fall so short of what we are capable of!
This woman could voice an audiobook about nuclear war for children.
Children do not have the necessary abstract concepts formed in their mind, nor do they have the mathematical knowledge to comprehend the numbers involved in this discussion, so there's no point in writing a book for them.
@@User-jr7vfhey buddy, shut up
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@User-jr7vf are you trying to Rick Roll the rickroll? 😂😂😂
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It is important to realize that the flight paths are over the polar caps, North and South, not across the ocean East/West. That is why the time is less than a half hour.
The graphic in the thumbnail is inaccurate. That weapon is either a UGM-133 or a M-51. Both of which have a maximum range several times greater than what's depicted.
Ok that’s enough internet for today 😮
Welcome to the 1980s
time for SpongeBob now 😂
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Hate to burst your bubble but this is not confined to the internet
Yesterday too !
The book, Command and Control, is a must read that covers near disasters with nukes. The Damascus incident alone is the stuff of nightmares. The guys involved still break out into tears when they try to talk about it.
The Damascus incident???
@@ebenezer6844 1980. A group of Titan II missile techs dropped a $6.00 spanner that bounced against and ruptured the missile case as it fell all the way to the bottom of the silo 50-60' below. The missile fuel oxidized as it contacted the atmosphere which in turn started a fire. Every nuclear bomb -- including thermonuclear ones -- start with a conventional explosion that "primes" the initial reaction. At a certain temperature the conventional explosive component of a nuke will cook off. So it was a horse race: would the conventional part of the Titan warheads blow up, thereby igniting all the thermonuclear warheads on the Titan? Or would the propellant explode first? Fortunately, the propellant in the Titan II ignited completely first. This blasted the heavily armored lid off the silo and scattered the Titan's MIRV warheads over several miles of Damascus, AR. We could have had a "dirty" bomb disaster or a multi-megaton thermonuclear detonation(s). Think about how close to a gigantic, god-awful tragedy we came-- over a $6 wrench that was accidentally dropped.
@@ebenezer6844 1980, Damascus/Arkansas: Explosion of a Titan III ICBM thanks to dumbassery while handling its fuel. The missile was armed with a 9 megaton nuclear warhead.
Bioweapon was used in Syria (Damascus is the capital) by its own dictator President to kill an uprising, not too long ago.
Please further elaborate on that
I'm just thinking about all the innocent animals...😢
I thought about that also. They are so innocent and would have no idea what is going on. If that happened it would be so sad and evil
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Thanks for ground confirmation on hallucination.
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones" -Einstein
Maybe WW4 would actually be WW1 to the people fighting in it.
I've read this so many times and every time it hits me with the same question - why and how all the people who left after WW3 lost all the knowledge of how to create something so simple as gun powder. I've never found an answer to that question.
@@thenewexeptor this is not the first societal collapse. Look at the Bronze Age, which was mainly caused by famine. it took centuries for humanity to recover
I seriously hope I’m among the first to go. Ive been living with the threat of nuclear war my whole life and I’m in no way designed for post-nuclear survival.
Spared the horror of surviving. I hope I’m at ground zero.
Definitely, the billionaire's building luxury Bunker's, is definitely an example of rich people not understanding the aftermath!
I lived through the "duck and cover" drills back in the 1950's. Now, If I get a warning that the missiles are on their way, I think I'll just go stand in the front yard to watch. Don't think I'd care to wait for the looters to burn me out when all the food is gone.
It's car on with the garage door closed time if I manage to survive the first day.
Your whole life? Damn, and for nothing!
I was an 80’s kid, very interested in history and war. The last two yrs have taught me that very few in the west have spent anytime thinking about the risks. At least lately. This yr. I took the winter off and skied. We’ve never been closer to ending it all, and I’m told Russian rockets won’t fly straight. This is how it ends.
Amazing story and facts are very chilling to say the least. Annie Jacobsen really knows her stuff and I can't wait to order her book.
The problem is that most of the slugs we vote into power no longer know what a nuke actually does.
You’re right
The Squad will be bitching about all the minority cities destroyed while Biden can't make a simple decision. Yeah, we'll be screwed.
@michellebrown4903 when did he say that. Do you have the EXACT quotes?
I mean most of the people we elect lived through the Cold War so idk wtf you’re talking about…. And the trump comment is hilarious if true.. but I would be interested if it’s actually true..
I still don’t understand how you could possibly give that decision to a stale old fart from either one of the parties so out of touched with reality and the people that it would be funny if it wasn’t so egregiously upsetting
when I read the title of the video. I didn't think it was something taken seriously.
But after listening to them talk so seriously about the subject and with so much concern and information, I have changed my mind.
Now the one who has been worried is me
We can’t worry about things we can’t control. Live in the moment. ❤
I love Annie. She is so good at telling her stories I really need to read her books
Big fan of Lex, always calm and chilled, asking honored guests, poignant questions, rendering them with ample mental space to elaborate; thoughtful, yet simple questions, no less shinier than the answers; his clips are like full episodes, for others; to top it off with burning passion and unwavering stamina!
Yes, he talks like a sloth walks - slowly, hand then leg and after some lengthy pause, another hand or leg but never both. Just one slow-moving limb after the other. It's incredible he has an audience. Perhaps they are bots or severe insomniacs... 🦥💤💤
@@alerotyafamily302or perhaps, adults
@@rare6499 More so pretentious adults that conflates unnecessary dramatic pauses with gravitas
I’ve had dreams/nightmares of being in a nuclear blast. Panic and screaming and then see huge flash of light and then feel tremendous heat envelope and lift my body, then flying through the air, weightless and looking all around me at grey matter and rising up. Felt calm and no pain. So bizarre.
I had the same kind of dream last year. Wtf. I was walking on a sunny day nd then all of sudden a flash nd it all goes black grey. And I could feel the same pressure on my body as I was I a fighter jet pulling 25+g like
Yes so have I exactly the same. I have lived through really close calls especially in the 80’s they were issuing leaflets in the UK about “protect and survive” being nuclear war. I would dream of the missiles launching. Horrifying.
You may be a reincarnated japanese experiencing a past life memory
A nuclear war could wipe out humanity, but it would also have disadvantages.
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A book that left me feeling slightly nauseous for all the right reasons. Annie is so detailed, the book is so meticulously & tirelessly researched. I don't know how we go about globally dismantling or reducing this capability that has the very real ability to entirely destroy nearly all life on earth, but I hope this starts the dialogue before our precarious geopolitical situation
As crazy as it may sound to some, not launching on warning greatly reduces the opportunity for reponse and this policy creates a strong deterrent
The existential gravity of these types of conversations make my head hurt, bro.
Same…. Same
The severity of retaliation is not the deterrent. It's the certainty.
What i'm most curious about is how GAI would react to the global stale mate created by nuclear weapons. Eventually a GAI will exist and the nuclear problem is also a threat to its existence as it is to our own.
I heard just the audio first and I swear I thought it was Linda Hamilton.
Oppenheimer movie is doing for nuclear war fears what Day After Tomorrow did for global warming fears.
Forget the Day After Tomorrow. The 1970’s film The Day After, starring Jason Robards, was about what happens in a nuclear war. The British film Threads was too.
@@mkkrupp246280s
I hope so. People are clueless.
First podcast hearing about Annie. Immediately buying the book.
Annie Jacobson is great author, all of her books are so well researched. Only reason I clicked on this video,
Lex should market his voice for sleep apps.
Sarah Connor once said. 3 billion human lives ended on August 29, 1997. The survivors of the nuclear fire called the war Judgment Day!
If the Bible says the world will come to an end (Armageddon) then what's the point of avoiding a nuclear war at all costs? To me a nuclear war sounds just like the prophecy being fulfilled.
2019 , past or future . P.K.D.
The lesson is,
Never delegate nuclear deterrence to AI.
We're not gonna make it are we?
@@eamoc we will
it's actually the only defense against such devastation. the knowledge from the attacking side that your target will know that you are about to obliterate them within a second that you decide to attack. and that this will mean that you will be obliterated all the same. so now that button means: self-destruction. but it can take one lunatic to press that button. insane.
I would not want to live next door to Annie Jacobsen. I think she too much loves her work. Reminds me of the eerie professor in FAIL SAFE (1964), played by the great entertaining late actor, Walter Matthau, who was a comic.
Living in Brussels, I have no doubt the fireworks would arrive here in an instant and be terminal in a fraction of a second.
To have the discussion that no one wants to have is brave and commendable. I salute you!
brave? lol
The conversation has been had since the cold war. If it was news to you that nuclear war meant everyone = fucked, you can't be saved from yourself let alone a nuke
You know that kinetic centripetal slingshot they are working on for space launches, what if that were used so the thermals couldn’t be detected?
Do I see a miniature version of Dimebag Darrell's guitar on a shelf in the background? Very cool.
Over the years I’ve listened to hours of this legendary lady speak on this stuff.
Much appreciated 👏🏻👏🏻
What's Really irritating is, the rats have their plush bunkers stocked and ready for use. You'll know its coming when your "betters" suddenly all go on "vacation ".
I was in the Army Engineers. All bunkers can and will be breached.
Yeess..I know ppl from here in Louisiana, went to Minnesota its a big group of ppl having bunkers built close to Canada's border
Even those bunkers have a limited supply of food and water. Once they run out, they’ll die too bc everything on the surface will be a wasteland because of the nuclear winter.
@@nevink4717Not as long as they develop their Vaults and maintain a sustainable life within the vaults like vault 66 👍
Been sticking up on the goods underground bunkers so if we on the surface that’s l we all know where the food and water will be huh?..all you in your bunkers will need to be coming out sometime we will be waiting
Her voice is pure ASMR, just bought some of her audiobooks because she does the narration
Living in New Zealand in a self-sufficient farm, so not particularly worried, on a personal level, about the nuclear armageddon (most of my family lives in south Argentina, so they'd also be safe).
But man would that ruin my week...
I just listened to the book, and i do recommend it. It goes into so much terrifying detail that it leaves quite an impression.
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which book did you read
My father is a contracting acquisition guy for a joint defense company based out of the U.K. And he writes/reviews contracts for these satellites that are capable of tracking and essentially shooting missiles out of the atmosphere. The bad news is this technology is very early phase and they haven’t been deployed in mass yet. The good news is in 10 years nuclear war can be averted with laser weapons. Hopefully we make it that far.
silver coating ...
"silver bullets killing werefolves" now has a meaning ...
dangerous part about this is once laser weapons invalidate the doctrine of Mutually Assured Destruction, some nations may start nuking other nations
Many of us have such misplaced faith and belief in technology to save us. Takes only a few ICBM with MIRVs to destroy a country.
Until we develop laser weapons to knock the laser satellites out before the launch, or an anti-laser coating on an ICBM, or some other defense mechanism. These weapons have been 10 years away since the Star Wars programs 40 years ago.
Don't be afraid. We're all in this together.
There's no reason to be afraid because there's absolutely nothing the average person can do about it.
By now shouldn't even have to worry as much about 6 minute retaliation. Now that we can launch missiles to intercept over the ocean it will tell everyone if it was an actual nuke or not.
I don’t know why, but I’m 100% certain that I am going nowhere for sometime, and if I am going nowhere, then you’re going nowhere too.
You never know what tomorrow brings. Don’t be so naive
the only way you'd be so certain is if you were holding yourself to such a notion
This brought me some peace and for that I thank you
its just depressiojn
With what's going on in Israel with Iran and them drone attack might not be far off
Hay I grew up in the 80s and this was on my door step. I read the book, Domain. I watched wargames and Threads and the day after and when the wind blows, I remember the coup in Russia in 91 and thought there could be a Nuclear war 😮 I could sit down with this lady and talk about it 🎉.
"DOMAIN" was the third book in the late Novelists rats series of novels.
Domain is Threads in literary form.
Probably the finest, terrifying novel ever written about nuclear war and its aftermath.
James Herbert was a bit of an enigma.
He wrote possibly the worst, poibtless, badly written novel ever, "Once..."
Then wrote the best ever, "Domain."
Read it once.
Then twice.
Then read it a third time.
It grips everytime.
Truly unforgettable, trUmatic reading experience!😢
This book is AMAZING. Everyone should listen to this book. It will open your eyes and scare you to death. Plus her voice is so soothing
I read somewhere, ( a long while ago) National Geographic published a satellite photo mapping the Nile river delta, it wasn’t Nat. Geo’s satellite, it was NRO’s letting USSR know we knew where all their silos were…..
31:04 Making those treaty-accountable asset reports that eventually channeled up to DTRA and on to Russia used to be part of my job. We always did so accurately.
Lex has consistently fabulous audio quality. Can anyone help me know what rig he uses? Mics? Mixers? Amps? Sampling rates? Anything information at all would be appreciated.
Really good ones
Those are shure sm7b mics
They look like Shure sm7b mics to me.
There's no point. We're all going to die
“Threads” (1984) still holds up as the most honest, bleak & disturbing depiction of life for ordinary people during and after a nuclear war.
and if all the above is not enough you'all must see the movie 'Threads' 1984 which in my opinion is the most terrifying, realistic depiction of 'life' before and after a nuclear war
I have to watch it
Its gonna be weird just standing there seeing the nuke blast and feeling the heatwave coming
Don’t stand by a window 😂
If you can see the light and you're within the thermal radius, you're fucked. It's gonna be a very short weird time.
Dont worry it’s not gonna happen. People have been worried about this for many decades.
When? Who would ACTUALLY launch a nuke? What nation? You are stuck in a Cold War mindset. Things have changed. People don’t even want to fight each other head on in Ukraine, it’s drone age.
Get into the nearest fridge
Good content as always. Think this episodes going to blow up!
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Production value is sky high
What an incredible reality. Amazing the times we live in and the horror of man’s nature. Phenomenal interview. Thank you.
The vast majority of veterans involved in the clean-up operations in the Pacific test sites are dying or have died due to horrible cancers (lung, bladder, lymphoma)- they where not entitled to automatic compensation for this. In the Marshall Islands there is a dump of nuclear waste held by a thin concrete block and a small tsunami or earthquake, which the area gets, could break it easily. What was learned from Chernobyl is that atmospheric radioactive fallout increases your risk of thyroid cancer (as the gland stores the radioactive isotopes) and iodine tablets can reduce this risk significantly. However the entire world will try and stockpile iodine tablets when nuclear war is looming and the people who need them the most won't get them.
I just realized that if this happens when my child is at school I won’t even be able to get there in 6 minutes and hug her that one last time
Well, the 6 minutes frame is for the President to decide on whether or not to retaliate. For the average person, it is not like the first few nukes will hit your city/town and destroy everything around you immediately. So you might still be able to hug your children, if that helps :)
Always keep that in mind everytime you hug your kids goodbye because a lot more could happen in 6min or less , don't take any moment for granted
26 to 32 minutes
I listened to this book in two days in audible. I felt physically sick to my stimach through alot of it. To think how easily and quickly this could happen and end our world..and the government wont warn us or help us during or after. Terrifying
But they have a plan to collect taxes
With rocket launches daily all that had to happen to miss launch or warning is to launch a "supply mission" that supplies a nuke.
I remember being a little kid during the Cold War in the 60s. And as a small 8 year old kid, being aware that this could happen. Becuase back then it was constantly on everyone’s minds, like it’s starting to now again. Only now, I have to say, it’s worse and it seems much more plausible. Becuase back then at least we had diplomacy and leaders who were afraid of it happening.
Listening to this makes me think of that scene in the original Ghostbusters where the voice booms out "Choose the form of the Destructor."
There is no Dana only Zuul 😂
@@urmailman Beat me to it! "Zoolie! You kidder!!"
What a great, terrifying interview. Was hoping you guys would cover our ability to shoot down any incoming missiles but did not hear that, at least in this clip. Awesome work, as always!
There is NOTHING in the inventory of any country that has been proven capable of intercepting an incoming icbm in real world scenarios, except in very highly scripted SIMULATIONS. And even in simulations the systems have failed when then incomings were arriving at night.
So that's why she didn't mention any.
We have 44 interceptors according to a different interview.
@@gaiadruid thank you. They actually talk about it in the full interview. We have them but we don't have many and they will not have a chance at shooting everything down.
Its messed up but why is there even an option if they launch we launch you could wait till it hits but you need to respond right?
In the discussion there are a number of technical inaccuracies related to the operation and capabilities of SSBNs and SSNs between the United States and their adversaries. Otherwise it's interesting.