Sainz not being a team player is totally fine by me when he was practically begging for a box and the team was ignoring him. Id be "well fuck it ill do it myself" too if i was treated like that. No shade to charles but i think ferrari themselves fucked that up more than sainz.
Ok so using ur logic after Silverstone 2022 Leclerc should have tried to help Perez and Lewis and block Sainz on purpose to help the other drivers to win
Can't blame Sainz for Ferrari mistakes. He'd been better all weekend and out raced Leclerc. And the no pressure comment Sainz obeyed, one clean build up and pass, no messing around.
Carlos should be a higher rating than leclerc considering Charles qualifying and over cooking his tires in race Carlos made less mistakes and was on the podium
Totally, the problem is that Matt has never been neutral between the Carlos and Lecrec, sadly because he has good opinions but his fangirl moment makes him less credible
4:27 Matt about Hulkenberg: « he’s not gonna beat the McLarens, the Red Bulls, the Ferraris or the Mercedes! » Sergio: am I a joke to you? Me: yes Sergio, you kinda are… 🤦
Insane that Carlos can beat his teammate all weekend, get his pitstop and strategy messed up, let his teammate past in the race due to team orders only to still end up beating him and still get the same score...
The whole "there was an agreement" as an argument for Carlos definitely still having done something wrong is very strange, if you think about it. It's been confirmed both drivers got fed different messages as Tommy said - Carlos got the "don't put pressure on Charles" and Charles got told "he's been told not to overtake," followed by the correction "but it is very close. He has been told not to put pressure." The point is, what WAS the agreement? It would make sense if it was "follow team orders" - but since we know they were given miscommunicated orders surely that would mean Carlos should be left off the hook? If the agreement was to let Charles win, or to help Charles' driver championship then this might make sense, but it's highly unlikely as the team has always said it's constructors' first and they were going to finish in P3-4 either way. We cannot use Charles' reaction and words of "there was an agreement" to justify saying Carlos definitely has done something wrong when there was a miscommunication from the pitwall to both drivers in the first place.
If the agreement pre race was any kind of “Charles finishes ahead of you no matter what” then I don’t blame him for disobeying at all. That’s a stupid team order when Carlos was faster all weekend. For the only championship either of them are still in the order doesn’t matter. If Charles wants p2 than he needs to be faster and get the higher position himself 🤷♂️ why should Carlos care about that and lose what could be he last podium for something that doesn’t benefit him? Especially when the only reason he’s behind him in the first place is due to Ferrari messing up his pit stop. Also if the agreement was to follow team orders than you’re right the pitwall messed that up but then why can Charles not keep calm until they go back and do the briefing? Why does he have these public blowups before he knows all the information, Carlos can do it why can’t he?
You explain it perfectly. The whole "there was an agreement" ok what was it? If it was "Charles finishes ahead" then that's a bullshit agreement when no one but Charles gives a fuck about P2 in the Drivers Standings now, it has about as much relevance as P12. If Charles has a monetary bonus in his contract as some have suggested then that's Charles' job to achieve that not Carlos'. Also I don't see why Ferrari themselves would care about Charles getting P2 in the championship, they know it means nothing and they want the Constructors cause it's still within their grasp and they maximised the result regardless, they likely weren't going to catch the Mercs and if they did it would have only happened by following Carlos' proposed pit strategy and not the one the team used. If it was merely "follow team orders" then as you said the miscommunication means it's Ferrari's fault not Carlos' although the team order is still stupid why should Carlos on warmer tires stay behind. If they'd just pitted Carlos one of the many times he asked beforehand that would have freed up Charles meaning they wouldn't have lost time making the risky swap and meant they wouldn't have come out on track together when Charles eventually pitted.
People are talking about Carlos not respecting team orders but they don't talk about how Charles got ahead of him in the first place. Charles was only ahead of Carlos because of a team order (which Carlos respected and let him pass) and because Ferrari screwed Carlos' pitstop which made him lose 4-5 seconds. Do they expect Carlos to just stay behind Charles, wait till his tyres are ready and then fight? What is this, a race or a joke? Carlos was faster this weekend and got a well deserved podium even after that Ferrari clownery.
Yeah, I don't get this whole "Carlos didn't follow team orders" debate. He literally did, let Charles past and almost risked being overtaken even though he had asked for a pit stop for 2 laps, which would have had the same effect. Ferrari really trying everything they can to make Charles happy, even apparently being "not ready" when he finally almost came in, even though it was clear that they would put on the hard and Carlos had asked for a pit stop 3 laps ahead.
@@bl4xxunFerrari’s team orders: “Carlos, if you are ahead you need to let Charles pass but if you are behind you don’t overtake Charles, understood?” Carlos: “Well, you can all go a suck a fat one. And by saying a fat one, I mean Hamilton’s contract”
I feel like Tommy is cooking this season with grades. Last year I thought he had some questionable grades given to drivers. But this year Matt is the one that's giving weird grades to drivers. Tommy>Matt this season.
24:37 i'd like to understand when carlos didnt follow team instructions in your opinion. carlos was told not to put preassure on charles so he didnt. what was he supposed to do? brake?
Yeah they thought leclerc would be ahead and Carlos would try to overtake him and told him to not put pressure but he overtook him too easily so it was like, what pressure from sainz he is already ahead😂😂
Matt also, when you play it out, this pre race agreement is so nonsensical because Carlos qualified ahead. Unless the agreement was roll over and die for Charles if he’s in the vicinity, none of it makes sense. The way things were laid out, someone wrote this Yeah the agreement must be totally reasonable. Teammate who qualified ahead by .3 seconds, must give way to his position for unseen and seen circumstances for the other driver to be ahead. Lol
Charles overtook him at the start and followed team orders while Sainz didnt. Shouldve been a 7/10 for both anyways. Finished where they should have, period.
pitlane incident was his fault. Ferrari undercut Leclerc and Carlos ignored teamorders trying to hold up Leclerc as much as possible by giving Max DRS on purpose. Also Sainz fucked up his start. if anything Charles should be higher up, but the delusion of Carlos Sainz fans is crazy
as always Matty is Charles Delulu. nothing is his fault and he can't just been having a bad day, so of course Carlos is the villan. Fucking hilarious 🤣
The thing with Carlos passing Charles, is it looked like it wasn't anything but Carlos being up to speed and Charles not. Like the only way Carlos doesn't pass Charles is if he gets seriously on the brakes. And not sure the race officials would've appreciated that.
Well, what you guys failed to mention is George Russell was managing his tires and gap to Lewis towards the last stint. Not that Lewis had a greater race pace.
@@DerickChen I have to disagree with you there. I think the point the original commenter was making was that Matt and Tommy said that George managed the first sets of tyres (aka the mediums) well and that was what won him the race, when in fact he managed all sets including both sets of hards. Even the last set of tyres he was on (aka the second set of hards) when Lewis was making up time to him, it was clear that even though Lewis was on a flyer he would never have beaten George last weekend unless he forced George to make a mistake. George wasn’t punishing his tyres as he wanted there to be tyres left to use if he needed them, plus he said himself in interviews he didn’t want to risk making any silly mistakes and costing himself the race. Lewis was flying but chewed through his set of hards and with about 5 laps to go stopped making up time (infact he started losing some of the time he made up) and sliding around on the track as his tyres were shot due to him trying to chase George down. It was a great drive by Lewis but I agree that to put all of the reason for George winning on his management of his first handful of laps on the mediums is doing George and his strategy a bit of a disservice. It was, all around, a great weekend for Merc. (And please before anyone responds with, “if Lewis had qualified higher he’d have beaten George in the race”, just don’t. Qualifying is an important part of the racing weekend, hence why it happens and why drivers get so annoyed on a Saturday when it’s buggered up either by themselves making mistakes or by the team releasing them at the wrong time or interrupted by any colour flag for whatever reason. Hamilton made mistakes on both of his flying laps in Q3 and admitted so in his post quali interviews that he only had himself to blame for his poor performance/end result.)
Would love to hear what the actual agreement within Ferrari before the race was. I'd be surprised if Ferrari has said something along the lines of Carlos not fighting Leclerc for position given that Sainz started ahead. Not to mention Sainz not hesitating in letting Leclerc by when asked, and managing to hold up Hamilton while doing so. Feels more like Charles was frustrated at the amount of time lost due to the graining in the early stages. Or just getting more and more frustrated with Ferrari's continuous strategic issues.
Matt trying to sneakily give Carlos worse rankings than he deserves will never not be funny to me 😭 it's okay to appreciate him having a good weekend, in the end of the year Charles will still be ahead lol
@@josiahboatengmyrie Carlos obeyed team orders. He was told to let Charles past, he did, almost risked losing another position to Lewis because of it. And when he was asked to not put too much pressure on prescious little Charles, he quickly overtook to avoid Charles feeling like he's under pressure. Carlos had the better race pace by an average of 2.5 tenths. I think it's mostly Charles realising he won't be the favorite anymore come next year and he's kind of panicking
Who lied you about that? Even with a new engine and new components and a car which since last upgrades in Austin is understeery and that's suiting so much on Sainz's driving style and it's opposite to Charles's driving style, Charles would've finished in front of him If Ferrari wouldn't have kept him too much on 2nd stint.
@@PetruStefan25 if you look at the facts of the race, what you said makes zero sense. Charles is the lead Ferrari for 5 laps. Barely able to hold it together. Carlos was mid overtake when Charles says he will “give in” similar to how easily he gave in to Max too I guess, was Max also his teammate? Also Carlos was behind Charles for 3 laps with no team orders. How nice for Leclerc Then Charles gets the undercut, cuts Carlos’s 5 seconds lead (which was done in just 2 laps) Carlos pits, still ahead (because you know, he drove fast enough for it) Charles has a better second stint, gets within .5 and starts whining, and Carlos given the order. Charles only stuck for 1.5 laps. Carlos gets fucked in the pits, lost about 3-4 seconds, still gets out close after Charles’s pits, (unlike Charles in the second stint) and you want Carlos to bend over for him? Yeah right
I do like these ratings videos but I feel that sometimes personal feeling about a driver has too much influence. If Alonso had an ERS failure in FP3 that resulted in just 1 qualifying lap, (with no other track time) then had a botched pitstop & drove the entire race with no radio he’d certainly get more then a 5.
Personal feeling affect each one of us too. I would charge them more if they were journos but ultimately they're just fans like us but with a TH-cam channel.
25:35 Remember Silvestone 2022, if things had went Ferrari's way, most likely they would have not win at all, and they wanted Leclerc to go first. They just suck. There was a chance of Sainz get P2, and they screwed it, and put it in danger of Verstappen owning Sainz if they gone for Leclerc first.
I was interested listening to Charles radio. It wasn't just in the race he had a sweary rant. He had a bit of a sweary rant after Q3, which obviously in that case had nothing to do with Carlos. He was clearly upset over something even before the race started. Wonder what that was...?
I remember last season when Max was dominating every race and he really wasn't racing anyone and no one bothered to fight him on track knowing this but; Piastri, Russell, Sainz and Hamilton. All the other drivers would just move aside for him. That's why I'd also love to see Russell and Max fighting for a win or title.
During the middle of the race, xhou was actually legitimately 10th place on the field while on the same stint as everyone else. The shitake team gave him 2 stops average 4 seconds and also seem to be very confident about the overtaking ability of their sh*tbox as they let everyone undercut zhou and pitted him much later than he should. iF anyone actually pay attention to that team, they would realize that they had more chances to score points than ppl think but repeatedly subotage their drivers through unbelievable pitstops and horrendous pit timing.
Remember before first pitstop, Zhou was in P6 or P7 I could not remember the position, after the 3.9s super long pitstop he was in P17, and remember P17 was because Bottas slow the P19 down otherwise Zhou would be in P19. Think about that, from P7 to P19, what a ****ing good pitstop!
Ranking is always difficult: do you rate the driver, or the driver's result. If it's just the driver, more drivers may regularly deserve a 10. Some of them either get more out of the car than realistically is in it, or are simply driving flawlessly with the material they have, but still finishing well outside of the podium.
I love how Oscar got a 5 but his teammate got a 7! By only finishing a place in behind of Lando despite getting a dubious penalty which made him lose time in the worst possible circumstance.......... Shouldn't Lando only get a 6 when he is a "Better" driver given that?
Russell wasn’t pushing the entire race and just saving his tyres for a safety car. So the notion that Hamilton would’ve breezed to an easy win had he qualified normally is wrong.
@@bniceuk8207shovlins comments do not change the fact george was not pushing his tyres at all. You act like shovlins comment mean for absolute certainty LH would have won, thinking george would have just sat back and let him pass🤣
Impossible to know the answer. My guess is if Hamilton and Russell were in P1 and P2 either way around, Hamilton would have held onto his tyres better, because his style tends to be better on tyres. Russell is quick but has a lot to learn, often he is too aggressive and compromises his race with tyre degradation and mistakes. Las Vegas was a great performance for Russell, but it really doesn’t tell us much about the relative performances of the Mercedes. To be fair to Russell, Hamilton made two mistakes in Q3. Would have been good to see them fight for the win, but sadly it didn’t happen.
We shouldn’t speculate, I know, but what else could that pre-race agreement be if it wasn’t Leclerc finishing ahead of Carlos? Charles already stressed his ambitions of getting that P2 and surpassing Norris in his instagram posts and interviews. I’m pretty sure he’s just annoyed (hysterical) that Carlos didn’t follow that.
Charles, if you cannot do it on track, then Carlos was right to do what he did, especially with the pitstop snaffu with Ferrari screwing him over as so many times in the past.
Carlos has no reason to follow that. Every position except P1 in the Drivers Standings is entirely meaningless to everyone except maybe the driver who gets that position since there might be a bonus attached to it, but that makes it entirely an individual pursuit. Ferrari don't gain anything from it, so if that was the agreement then it's stupid and Carlos was right to not follow it. If Charles was fighting for a World Championship then fair enough the overall team gains a sense of prestige with that, but not for P2. If Charles wants it he can get it himself.
@@elieli1056 Sure we don't know the pre-race agreement but if Carlos agreed on something and then failed to do so he becomes untrustworthy. Only speculation so we'll never know.
@@soundscape26 he has a way of being crytic, like teenage girls and tumbler posts. He shouldn’t have mentioned it at all if he wasn’t going to go into the details
I’d rate leclerc’s drive a bit lower tbh just because I view him very highly so for him to fuck up his tyres at the start by trying to catch George was a bit disappointing + getting outqualified by carlos. If it was any other driver I’d say 8 is fair but to me leclerc is the best out of the none wdc drivers so it was a bit eh
Oscar - 5/10 because he is 7th "In A Mclaren". Lando - 7/10 because he is 6th, but "the car wasn't there for him"😂. I agree that Lando was a bit better in the race, but you guys have to give better reasoning, otherwise sound ridiculous
Agreed. Oscar at least went from 8th to 7th. Lando made up no positions. How is it that they say the car wasn’t there for Lando but for Oscar it was just a poor performance? They’re literally in the same car.
It does seem ridiculous. I watched Oscar do like 5 overtakes every time he pitted & came back into the race Universally agreed, this wasn’t a McLaren track But, even if Lando & Osc, have identical races, Matt would STILL favour Lando I wonder why ? 🤔
Oscar opened the gap so Lando could try for fastest lap and ensure the finish for the WCC. Listen to the radio messages. Crystal clear. He even got told not to pass Lando, who was just in front of him before allowing the gap to build. and you give Lando 7 ?!
What? Lando had built a 20s gap to Oscar already before they told him Lando was pitting to try get fastest lap. Even with 10 laps to go Lando already had a 14.5s advantage. Oscar only got told not to interfere with Lando's outlap on lap 49.
@@inspajamas2480 Because what was the point of pushing really? They were both so far back from P5 and so far ahead of P8 it was better to chill. Oscar will not be allowed to pass his teammate at that point. Every race Car 4 is the one ahead, Oscar is on chill mode as soon as that team order thingy was put in place.
@@inspajamas2480 Yeah, and? Car 4 is the car ahead, no threat from the car behind. What was the point of pushing? Nothing. They will finish P6 and P7 no matter what.
Idea to improve the format, maybe give a rating out of 5 for quali (or sprint if there is one) and out of 5 for the race, then combine the scores to give overall. Better reflects if someone had a good Saturday but not Sunday (and vice verse)
I understand that Leclerc doesn't explode like this often, but he does whinge on the radio quite a lot. It begs the question how he will fare against Hamilton who is known for being a very dominant team mate. Sainz didn't really do anything wrong and Charles being slower and having cooked tyres at the end is not really Carlos' problem. There comes a point where team orders need to be ignored if they are stupid or overly impact one driver over the other and it is not in the interests of the team.
Fanboy Matt not seeing Carlos out qualified Charles. Beat him in the race and ignoring the fact Charles cooked his own tires early which cost him the advantage he gained early... It's hard to take him seriously.... Facts don't care about your feelings... 🫤
I’ve noticed a lot of people saying Charles’ tires fell off like no he destroyed them trying to catch George. If he’d gotten past Carlos at the start and just sat there and didn’t destroy the tires he would’ve been justified in feeling wrong about finishing behind him but he didn’t so…
Also Stroll forgot the agreed upon tactic, so after the radio failed, Aston Martin crew weren't ready because he pitted earlier than what they had agreed upon pre-race.
Matt please, your reasoning on Leclerc is ridiculous. Carlos qualified ahead, was faster, Leclerc cooked his tyres in the first sting by being overly aggressive, so even if you want to argue some predetermined team orders, they would have been in Carlos' favor since he qualified ahead. Secondly, Leclerc should not have even been ahead of him after that second stop since they were not ready for Carlos when he had to pit and he lost seconds there. Take that into account and he is easily ahead of Leclerc. This was honestly a disgraceful radio from Leclerc, and it incited an insane response from so many "Ferarri fans". There were some big Ferrari accounts on twitter attacking Carlos, calling him a fraud, a fake Ferrari driver etc. Disgraceful. If the roles were reversed, all these "fans" would be calling Carlos a crybaby. He beat him fair and square, he was faster all weekend and that's that. Deserved podium, if Leclerc wanted that podium he should have driven faster. Simple as that.
I’m also just confused of Charles argument of “we discussed this before the race” (fighting for second in racer standings I bet but 🙄) Carlos started in 2nd Charles in 4th………. Soooooo
Yeah this Charles bias is just getting laughable at this point. Gets outqualified AND finishes lower than his teammate (while having a better strategy mind you) and STILL gets the same points as Carlos. Thanks Tommy for being unbiased. Unsubbing.
probably the Monaco incident doesn't count as it wasn't his fault, but at the same time when Magnussen tried to overtake and took out Perez who then took out Hülkenberg the 2 "victims' " damage was also counted into the destructors' championship
I cannot wait for Matt's face after Lewis and Charles create fireworks. Wonder what LH fans will do to Matt if he crucifies LH for his pookie Charles!!
Carlos was better than Charles this weekend, he should never have even been near Charles if Ferrari didn’t screw him over with the pit stop. He would have been well clear and challenged Lewis for P2. 9/10 for Carlos, 8/10 for Charles who made a great start and had a go for the win.
What's the point of pushing on Oscar's part when his teammate is the one ahead and Max so far more ahead. Better to chill and manage the tyres than compromise everything if he pushes more. He would never be allowed to pass his teammate, let's be real here You gave him a 5 for being so far back from his teammate but that one got a 7 and no mention of how far back from Max he was? Yeah, lads, you're being objective there.
A little unfair to criticize Bottas for finishing behind his teammate considering he had a grid penalty and spent quali giving Zhou a tow. He didn’t really do anything in the race, and he did finish last, so it’s not a great performance, but there were circumstances against him preventing an exciting qualifying.
For Hamilton to finish 5 secs behind Russel shows when he’s got the car he’s got more then what it takes, it was his fault in Q3 but Q1 and Q2 he was topping the timing sheets, I think he’s lot a bit of confidence on pushing the car over one lap, defo be interesting to see what happens next year. Russel is and has always been massively underrated by the fans! Remember that time he sat in for Hamilton in 2020 and would and should have won that race if it wasn’t for Mercedes phucking his pit stop up and then the puncture, and that’s with a car that wasn’t fitted for him!
@ quite possibly, but we’ve seen over the year that Hamilton seems to have better race pace then George, just George is schooling Hamilton in quali, probably an age thing 🤷🏼♂️
@@alexsutherland9593 in 6th place with no fastest laps, lead no laps, and topped no sessions in a car from the top 4 teams. That’s a solid 5-6 there. Mark his team mate down a point for being even more mediocre.
Lawson a 5 what? The gap between him and yuki in qualifying and race was huge. He finished 2 or 3 last of the finishers. And went backward in the race. That was a bad performance. He doesn't deserve more than a 3.
a 5 is fair. He lost 1 place on a track he hasn't driven . Colapinto wrecks his car for the 4th time and gets a 5. You know expectations are so high for a driver on his 4th race and more givening for the popular rookie. Yuki did well but it is only a P9, but if he had of taken out Max on lap 1 that would be a 3 lol.
Let's not forget that Lawson has 9 races in F1 total to Yukis 80+. He's a rookie for crying out loud. Yeah, I'm a Kiwi, so naturally a little biased, but objectively it wasn't his best performance, but it was Yukis!!
Also Vcarb left him out for way to long on old Hard tyres. Near the end he was practically beginning to pit. Only so much can be done with those tyres. Same thing they did to DaniRic in Baku
Norris a 7 and Piastri a 5 when Piastri made up positions and Norris didn’t. Also Piastri was told to leave a gap at the end for Norris fastest lap makes no sense at all. They were both 6s. The got points they finished together, they were the 3rd fastest team not much more they could do with that.
Max is seemingly collecting different runner ups/rivals like infinity stones. 😂 Lewis, Charles and now Lando couldn’t defeat Max. George is probably like: “Fine, I’ll do it myself”. 😂
@@daarom3472 People say "it is just the car" but I think that when next year there are 4 teams of approximately equal strength, and all 4 of them win races, maybe even the same number (3 wins for each driver, assuming Checo is replaced), Max will still win the championship because on the races he does not win he has a better average than the others.
@@soundscape26 basically 0 if you look at genuine race pace. And his car had no business being on the podium in Silverstone and COTA (and arguably even in Zandvoort/Singapore).
Russell Vs Verstappen is the next great championship battle. That title battle would be incredibly unpredictable as there’s no guarantee on who’d win. Both are incredibly ruthless, and as George allegedly said last season at Baku: “I’m here to fight, I’m here to win. I’m not just going to wave him (Max) by just because he’s Max Verstappen in a Red Bull”. 👀
@@MrTomWaffles No he doesn’t. He’s been incredibly consistent this season. And shows in the H2H against Lewis. He’d probably have at least four wins this season if it wasn’t for Merc incompetence. Which would give him more wins than anyone but Max in a very unpredictable/inconsistent car.
Russel is one of the best qualifiers in the sport. Almost got pole with a backmarker Williams. Give him an equal car and he’s likely on pole 9/10 times.
@@paperplane-db8qf And at which point he can set the trend of the race. As he’s been phenomenal at starts too. Thinking back to Spain and Brazil this season.
George is very quick, but quickly becomes error-prone and nervous in tricky situations. If it really were to come to a head-to-head duel, it would be clearly in Max's favour. But I don't really see Max in the championship fight next year. Over the winter, the last bit of the Newey factor will disappear for Red Bull.
You know that Mercedes might actually be quick in Qatar too since this time it's late in the year so it's actually kinda of cold there not like last season where the race was in October
Max dropped back to ensure he had good tires in case of a VSC. He said he would have battled for the podium if he didnt need to think about a VSC and Norris.
Call it spade for spade, Charles threw a tantrum. The Lecfosi are going to STRUGGLE with Team LH. I actually really like Leclerc and rate him but his fans act like he’s Schumacher without the resume.
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Sainz not being a team player is totally fine by me when he was practically begging for a box and the team was ignoring him. Id be "well fuck it ill do it myself" too if i was treated like that. No shade to charles but i think ferrari themselves fucked that up more than sainz.
Agreed. Without that mishap, he might have even finished before Hamilton, given the time lost with the pit stop that wasn’t.
@@ronbally2312 Hamilton was flying, he would always finish P2.
@@soundscape26He lost 3s in that shenanigans plus the few laps staying out extra he couldve at least challenged hamilton
@@soundscape26Hamilton couldn’t get past leclerc so I wouldn’t be so sure
Ok so using ur logic after Silverstone 2022 Leclerc should have tried to help Perez and Lewis and block Sainz on purpose to help the other drivers to win
what matt doing under the desk 💀
You mean...deck? xD
Greasing his Johnny looking at Leclerc's pics
Choking on something
Catching his breath
Glizzy gobbling
Can't blame Sainz for Ferrari mistakes. He'd been better all weekend and out raced Leclerc. And the no pressure comment Sainz obeyed, one clean build up and pass, no messing around.
Carlos should be a higher rating than leclerc considering Charles qualifying and over cooking his tires in race
Carlos made less mistakes and was on the podium
Totally, the problem is that Matt has never been neutral between the Carlos and Lecrec, sadly because he has good opinions but his fangirl moment makes him less credible
4:27 Matt about Hulkenberg: « he’s not gonna beat the McLarens, the Red Bulls, the Ferraris or the Mercedes! »
Sergio: am I a joke to you?
Me: yes Sergio, you kinda are… 🤦
Harsh but fair.
Would have been even better if he had said 'the Red Bull'.
"he’s not gonna beat the McLarens, SUPER M4X, the Ferraris or the Mercedes!" Fixed
Pretty much the start of the video too at 4:27, what a joke
Insane that Carlos can beat his teammate all weekend, get his pitstop and strategy messed up, let his teammate past in the race due to team orders only to still end up beating him and still get the same score...
That’s matt bias for you
Yes, mat is disgusting , he is like a a fangirl of Lecrec
@@danielagarciaaguirre9235Well, they are fans like us, I think we can take some bias
Matt is 🏳️🌈 for Charles. I root for Max, but when he goes crazy, I don't defend him.
@@danielagarciaaguirre9235 It's not that serious
The whole "there was an agreement" as an argument for Carlos definitely still having done something wrong is very strange, if you think about it. It's been confirmed both drivers got fed different messages as Tommy said - Carlos got the "don't put pressure on Charles" and Charles got told "he's been told not to overtake," followed by the correction "but it is very close. He has been told not to put pressure."
The point is, what WAS the agreement? It would make sense if it was "follow team orders" - but since we know they were given miscommunicated orders surely that would mean Carlos should be left off the hook? If the agreement was to let Charles win, or to help Charles' driver championship then this might make sense, but it's highly unlikely as the team has always said it's constructors' first and they were going to finish in P3-4 either way. We cannot use Charles' reaction and words of "there was an agreement" to justify saying Carlos definitely has done something wrong when there was a miscommunication from the pitwall to both drivers in the first place.
If the agreement pre race was any kind of “Charles finishes ahead of you no matter what” then I don’t blame him for disobeying at all. That’s a stupid team order when Carlos was faster all weekend. For the only championship either of them are still in the order doesn’t matter. If Charles wants p2 than he needs to be faster and get the higher position himself 🤷♂️ why should Carlos care about that and lose what could be he last podium for something that doesn’t benefit him? Especially when the only reason he’s behind him in the first place is due to Ferrari messing up his pit stop.
Also if the agreement was to follow team orders than you’re right the pitwall messed that up but then why can Charles not keep calm until they go back and do the briefing? Why does he have these public blowups before he knows all the information, Carlos can do it why can’t he?
You explain it perfectly. The whole "there was an agreement" ok what was it? If it was "Charles finishes ahead" then that's a bullshit agreement when no one but Charles gives a fuck about P2 in the Drivers Standings now, it has about as much relevance as P12. If Charles has a monetary bonus in his contract as some have suggested then that's Charles' job to achieve that not Carlos'. Also I don't see why Ferrari themselves would care about Charles getting P2 in the championship, they know it means nothing and they want the Constructors cause it's still within their grasp and they maximised the result regardless, they likely weren't going to catch the Mercs and if they did it would have only happened by following Carlos' proposed pit strategy and not the one the team used.
If it was merely "follow team orders" then as you said the miscommunication means it's Ferrari's fault not Carlos' although the team order is still stupid why should Carlos on warmer tires stay behind. If they'd just pitted Carlos one of the many times he asked beforehand that would have freed up Charles meaning they wouldn't have lost time making the risky swap and meant they wouldn't have come out on track together when Charles eventually pitted.
@@camra554parce que Sainz le fait chier depuis le début de l année
@@ElectricPrincess100 no it has as much relevance as p22 ad p23 logan and botta very importnant battle
People are talking about Carlos not respecting team orders but they don't talk about how Charles got ahead of him in the first place. Charles was only ahead of Carlos because of a team order (which Carlos respected and let him pass) and because Ferrari screwed Carlos' pitstop which made him lose 4-5 seconds.
Do they expect Carlos to just stay behind Charles, wait till his tyres are ready and then fight? What is this, a race or a joke? Carlos was faster this weekend and got a well deserved podium even after that Ferrari clownery.
The Leclerc fans expect a red carpet for him every time he is in other drivers' rear view mirror.
yes, mostly people forget or even don't know about this.
Leclerc fans vs Hamilton fans is going to get nuts
Why is nobody saying anything about Ferrari telling Carlos to let Charles pass after Sainz begged to pit him and they didn’t want to do it?
Yeah, I don't get this whole "Carlos didn't follow team orders" debate. He literally did, let Charles past and almost risked being overtaken even though he had asked for a pit stop for 2 laps, which would have had the same effect. Ferrari really trying everything they can to make Charles happy, even apparently being "not ready" when he finally almost came in, even though it was clear that they would put on the hard and Carlos had asked for a pit stop 3 laps ahead.
@@bl4xxunFerrari’s team orders: “Carlos, if you are ahead you need to let Charles pass but if you are behind you don’t overtake Charles, understood?”
Carlos: “Well, you can all go a suck a fat one. And by saying a fat one, I mean Hamilton’s contract”
@@bl4xxun That wouldn't fit f1 media representing carlos as a bad guy this weekend for clicks!!
Tommy speaks the truth, Carlos was better than Charles.
I feel like Tommy is cooking this season with grades. Last year I thought he had some questionable grades given to drivers. But this year Matt is the one that's giving weird grades to drivers. Tommy>Matt this season.
I’m a kiwi so a Lawson supporter but Yuki killed it this weekend, always strong and a great race. Liam struggled all weekend to match him.
Gotta take into consideration that this is Lawson's first time racing in Las Vegas, so I already imagined he'd struggle there.
Laurent Mekies also stated that they messed up with Liam's car set up and they nailed it on Yuki's car. So, something to consider.
24:37 i'd like to understand when carlos didnt follow team instructions in your opinion.
carlos was told not to put preassure on charles so he didnt. what was he supposed to do? brake?
Not to put pressure was likely not to overtake him
Yeah they thought leclerc would be ahead and Carlos would try to overtake him and told him to not put pressure but he overtook him too easily so it was like, what pressure from sainz he is already ahead😂😂
Matt also, when you play it out, this pre race agreement is so nonsensical because Carlos qualified ahead.
Unless the agreement was roll over and die for Charles if he’s in the vicinity, none of it makes sense. The way things were laid out, someone wrote this
Yeah the agreement must be totally reasonable. Teammate who qualified ahead by .3 seconds, must give way to his position for unseen and seen circumstances for the other driver to be ahead. Lol
yes but then who led into turn 2. I am assuming the first car gets priority
@ so many concessions is what makes this ridiculous
I don't get how both Leclerc and Sainz get a 8 when Carlos qualified ahead and would have been even more ahead without the pit entry incident
exactly
Definitely agree
Leclerc should lose points for his radio outburst as well.
Charles overtook him at the start and followed team orders while Sainz didnt. Shouldve been a 7/10 for both anyways. Finished where they should have, period.
pitlane incident was his fault. Ferrari undercut Leclerc and Carlos ignored teamorders trying to hold up Leclerc as much as possible by giving Max DRS on purpose. Also Sainz fucked up his start. if anything Charles should be higher up, but the delusion of Carlos Sainz fans is crazy
What is all with the Sainz negativity Matt? 8 for both? And defending Charles crying about Sainz?
+1 to Tommy for staying real.
as always Matty is Charles Delulu. nothing is his fault and he can't just been having a bad day, so of course Carlos is the villan. Fucking hilarious 🤣
The thing with Carlos passing Charles, is it looked like it wasn't anything but Carlos being up to speed and Charles not. Like the only way Carlos doesn't pass Charles is if he gets seriously on the brakes. And not sure the race officials would've appreciated that.
Well, what you guys failed to mention is George Russell was managing his tires and gap to Lewis towards the last stint. Not that Lewis had a greater race pace.
They mentioned that in the podcast
@@DerickChen I have to disagree with you there. I think the point the original commenter was making was that Matt and Tommy said that George managed the first sets of tyres (aka the mediums) well and that was what won him the race, when in fact he managed all sets including both sets of hards. Even the last set of tyres he was on (aka the second set of hards) when Lewis was making up time to him, it was clear that even though Lewis was on a flyer he would never have beaten George last weekend unless he forced George to make a mistake. George wasn’t punishing his tyres as he wanted there to be tyres left to use if he needed them, plus he said himself in interviews he didn’t want to risk making any silly mistakes and costing himself the race. Lewis was flying but chewed through his set of hards and with about 5 laps to go stopped making up time (infact he started losing some of the time he made up) and sliding around on the track as his tyres were shot due to him trying to chase George down.
It was a great drive by Lewis but I agree that to put all of the reason for George winning on his management of his first handful of laps on the mediums is doing George and his strategy a bit of a disservice. It was, all around, a great weekend for Merc.
(And please before anyone responds with, “if Lewis had qualified higher he’d have beaten George in the race”, just don’t. Qualifying is an important part of the racing weekend, hence why it happens and why drivers get so annoyed on a Saturday when it’s buggered up either by themselves making mistakes or by the team releasing them at the wrong time or interrupted by any colour flag for whatever reason. Hamilton made mistakes on both of his flying laps in Q3 and admitted so in his post quali interviews that he only had himself to blame for his poor performance/end result.)
Would love to hear what the actual agreement within Ferrari before the race was.
I'd be surprised if Ferrari has said something along the lines of Carlos not fighting Leclerc for position given that Sainz started ahead. Not to mention Sainz not hesitating in letting Leclerc by when asked, and managing to hold up Hamilton while doing so.
Feels more like Charles was frustrated at the amount of time lost due to the graining in the early stages. Or just getting more and more frustrated with Ferrari's continuous strategic issues.
@@_mickmccarthy After the papaya rules we now have the scarlet rules. 😄
@soundscape26 "Okay Carlos, for this stint, we are following ruleset F, question?"
Yuki should get a 1 yr RB deal and put Liam and Franco in the junior to evaluate. If Yuki smashes it keep him, if not promote the best of the noobs.
trueee
Matt trying to sneakily give Carlos worse rankings than he deserves will never not be funny to me 😭
it's okay to appreciate him having a good weekend, in the end of the year Charles will still be ahead lol
Carlos disobeyed team orders there’s nothing sneaky about the lower rating this time
@@josiahboatengmyrie Carlos obeyed team orders. He was told to let Charles past, he did, almost risked losing another position to Lewis because of it. And when he was asked to not put too much pressure on prescious little Charles, he quickly overtook to avoid Charles feeling like he's under pressure. Carlos had the better race pace by an average of 2.5 tenths. I think it's mostly Charles realising he won't be the favorite anymore come next year and he's kind of panicking
Carlos absolutely earned that podium.
How can you put the ferrari's the same note??! I mean, Carlos was stronger all weekend. Thanks Tommy for being objective😂
C est pas vrai juste en qualif a la course Leclerc avait plus de rythme pure
Who lied you about that? Even with a new engine and new components and a car which since last upgrades in Austin is understeery and that's suiting so much on Sainz's driving style and it's opposite to Charles's driving style, Charles would've finished in front of him If Ferrari wouldn't have kept him too much on 2nd stint.
@@PetruStefan25 if you look at the facts of the race, what you said makes zero sense.
Charles is the lead Ferrari for 5 laps. Barely able to hold it together. Carlos was mid overtake when Charles says he will “give in” similar to how easily he gave in to Max too I guess, was Max also his teammate? Also Carlos was behind Charles for 3 laps with no team orders. How nice for Leclerc
Then Charles gets the undercut, cuts Carlos’s 5 seconds lead (which was done in just 2 laps)
Carlos pits, still ahead (because you know, he drove fast enough for it) Charles has a better second stint, gets within .5 and starts whining, and Carlos given the order. Charles only stuck for 1.5 laps.
Carlos gets fucked in the pits, lost about 3-4 seconds, still gets out close after Charles’s pits, (unlike Charles in the second stint) and you want Carlos to bend over for him? Yeah right
Carlos also should have gotten a penalty for cutting the pitlane. But here we are
@miokujou before spreading misinformation please inform yourself. He did not entry, so this line is treated like a track limit
Matt your fangirling of Charles is getting a little grating when you blame other drivers for his own mistakes in the race. Kinda unsettling
I do like these ratings videos but I feel that sometimes personal feeling about a driver has too much influence.
If Alonso had an ERS failure in FP3 that resulted in just 1 qualifying lap, (with no other track time) then had a botched pitstop & drove the entire race with no radio he’d certainly get more then a 5.
It’s just their opinion
Personal feeling affect each one of us too. I would charge them more if they were journos but ultimately they're just fans like us but with a TH-cam channel.
It’s all objective fella.
@@bonesdoes6142Subjective.
i thought that was stroll? not alonso
25:35 Remember Silvestone 2022, if things had went Ferrari's way, most likely they would have not win at all, and they wanted Leclerc to go first. They just suck. There was a chance of Sainz get P2, and they screwed it, and put it in danger of Verstappen owning Sainz if they gone for Leclerc first.
2022! but yes, fully agreed with your point here
@@jeauhhh thanks!
I was interested listening to Charles radio. It wasn't just in the race he had a sweary rant. He had a bit of a sweary rant after Q3, which obviously in that case had nothing to do with Carlos. He was clearly upset over something even before the race started. Wonder what that was...?
Probably Carlos had agreed before hand to not be better than him and then was better than him in qualifying 😂😂😂
@@georgythomas8451
I remember last season when Max was dominating every race and he really wasn't racing anyone and no one bothered to fight him on track knowing this but; Piastri, Russell, Sainz and Hamilton. All the other drivers would just move aside for him. That's why I'd also love to see Russell and Max fighting for a win or title.
brazil 2022 was the best example of how good their racing can be and I wish to see more of it
@@leonie364. that was a fun battle they had. Though, it's fierce.
I forgot Zhou hadn't pitted and was actually hopeful he would get a point 😭😭😭😭
He would have the chance if the team Gambler haven’t give him two tire-changes averaged of more than four seconds 😅
During the middle of the race, xhou was actually legitimately 10th place on the field while on the same stint as everyone else. The shitake team gave him 2 stops average 4 seconds and also seem to be very confident about the overtaking ability of their sh*tbox as they let everyone undercut zhou and pitted him much later than he should. iF anyone actually pay attention to that team, they would realize that they had more chances to score points than ppl think but repeatedly subotage their drivers through unbelievable pitstops and horrendous pit timing.
Remember before first pitstop, Zhou was in P6 or P7 I could not remember the position, after the 3.9s super long pitstop he was in P17, and remember P17 was because Bottas slow the P19 down otherwise Zhou would be in P19. Think about that, from P7 to P19, what a ****ing good pitstop!
Couldn’t care less about the other drivers I’m here for Zhou 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳
With the noises Matt was making at the start I thought it had finally happened and Tommy has turned Matt in to a full on Gimp.
Leclerc shouldnt have got more than a 6 ffs 😂
7 imo
Ranking is always difficult: do you rate the driver, or the driver's result.
If it's just the driver, more drivers may regularly deserve a 10.
Some of them either get more out of the car than realistically is in it, or are simply driving flawlessly with the material they have, but still finishing well outside of the podium.
I love how Oscar got a 5 but his teammate got a 7! By only finishing a place in behind of Lando despite getting a dubious penalty which made him lose time in the worst possible circumstance.......... Shouldn't Lando only get a 6 when he is a "Better" driver given that?
Russell wasn’t pushing the entire race and just saving his tyres for a safety car.
So the notion that Hamilton would’ve breezed to an easy win had he qualified normally is wrong.
@@bniceuk8207shovlins comments do not change the fact george was not pushing his tyres at all. You act like shovlins comment mean for absolute certainty LH would have won, thinking george would have just sat back and let him pass🤣
Impossible to know the answer. My guess is if Hamilton and Russell were in P1 and P2 either way around, Hamilton would have held onto his tyres better, because his style tends to be better on tyres.
Russell is quick but has a lot to learn, often he is too aggressive and compromises his race with tyre degradation and mistakes.
Las Vegas was a great performance for Russell, but it really doesn’t tell us much about the relative performances of the Mercedes. To be fair to Russell, Hamilton made two mistakes in Q3. Would have been good to see them fight for the win, but sadly it didn’t happen.
@@fatbikemontage2931 Russell proved in Spa he could look after his tyres if he wanted to while also defending and holding onto a lead.
KMag: 5
Hulk: 9
Zhou: 8
Bottas: 3
Yuki: 9
Lawson: 3
Franco: 5
Albon: 6
Ocon: 5
Gasly: 7
Stroll: 3
Alonso: 7
Piastri: 3
Lando: 5
Sainz: 8 (still waiting on the penalty)
Leclerc: 7
Russell: 10
Lewis: 8
Perez: 1
Max: 8
Hulk would never beat Alonso or Max in the same car, he's waaay too overrated just like Albon.
We shouldn’t speculate, I know, but what else could that pre-race agreement be if it wasn’t Leclerc finishing ahead of Carlos? Charles already stressed his ambitions of getting that P2 and surpassing Norris in his instagram posts and interviews. I’m pretty sure he’s just annoyed (hysterical) that Carlos didn’t follow that.
Charles, if you cannot do it on track, then Carlos was right to do what he did, especially with the pitstop snaffu with Ferrari screwing him over as so many times in the past.
Carlos has no reason to follow that. Every position except P1 in the Drivers Standings is entirely meaningless to everyone except maybe the driver who gets that position since there might be a bonus attached to it, but that makes it entirely an individual pursuit. Ferrari don't gain anything from it, so if that was the agreement then it's stupid and Carlos was right to not follow it.
If Charles was fighting for a World Championship then fair enough the overall team gains a sense of prestige with that, but not for P2. If Charles wants it he can get it himself.
@@elieli1056 Sure we don't know the pre-race agreement but if Carlos agreed on something and then failed to do so he becomes untrustworthy. Only speculation so we'll never know.
@@soundscape26 he has a way of being crytic, like teenage girls and tumbler posts. He shouldn’t have mentioned it at all if he wasn’t going to go into the details
I’d rate leclerc’s drive a bit lower tbh just because I view him very highly so for him to fuck up his tyres at the start by trying to catch George was a bit disappointing + getting outqualified by carlos. If it was any other driver I’d say 8 is fair but to me leclerc is the best out of the none wdc drivers so it was a bit eh
Amazing performance from George.
Oscar - 5/10 because he is 7th "In A Mclaren". Lando - 7/10 because he is 6th, but "the car wasn't there for him"😂. I agree that Lando was a bit better in the race, but you guys have to give better reasoning, otherwise sound ridiculous
Agreed. Oscar at least went from 8th to 7th. Lando made up no positions. How is it that they say the car wasn’t there for Lando but for Oscar it was just a poor performance? They’re literally in the same car.
It does seem ridiculous.
I watched Oscar do like 5 overtakes every time he pitted & came back into the race
Universally agreed, this wasn’t a McLaren track
But, even if Lando & Osc, have identical races, Matt would STILL favour Lando
I wonder why ? 🤔
British bias?
Oscar opened the gap so Lando could try for fastest lap and ensure the finish for the WCC. Listen to the radio messages. Crystal clear. He even got told not to pass Lando, who was just in front of him before allowing the gap to build. and you give Lando 7 ?!
What? Lando had built a 20s gap to Oscar already before they told him Lando was pitting to try get fastest lap. Even with 10 laps to go Lando already had a 14.5s advantage. Oscar only got told not to interfere with Lando's outlap on lap 49.
They highlighted how far back he was from his teammate but no mention of how far back that P6 was from P5.
@@inspajamas2480 Because what was the point of pushing really? They were both so far back from P5 and so far ahead of P8 it was better to chill. Oscar will not be allowed to pass his teammate at that point. Every race Car 4 is the one ahead, Oscar is on chill mode as soon as that team order thingy was put in place.
@@charmedbops on lap 46:
P5 LEC
P6 NOR +10.978
P7 PIA +20.230
so almost double?
@@inspajamas2480 Yeah, and? Car 4 is the car ahead, no threat from the car behind. What was the point of pushing? Nothing. They will finish P6 and P7 no matter what.
With Max they said they didn't bring the wrong wing, they said due to development cost they only have 1 spec wing so they just modified that one.
Charles stamping his feet because he was NOT GIVEN 3RD
Idea to improve the format, maybe give a rating out of 5 for quali (or sprint if there is one) and out of 5 for the race, then combine the scores to give overall. Better reflects if someone had a good Saturday but not Sunday (and vice verse)
I think you guys should also rate the teams and then the drivers to provide more context if it is the driver or the team at fault.
And also to call out strategic or operational errors from teams
Leclerc should’ve gotten an 6-7. That team radio is extremely childish, very bad PR for Ferrari. “Tell him in Spanish” that lowkey racist
I am absolutely loving the intros so much I get such a good laugh every time
Checo Lawson and Kmag 3 wide 1 corner was amazing because Lawon and kmag gave just enough space to each other and Perez trusted Lawson.
Yes, great driving Lawson - either of the others in the middle and there would have been a crash
Lawson showed class and skill -either of the others in the middle and they would have crashed
Zhou earned that 9. And let's face it, that Sauber looked ti-EEEEEEEEEEET!
20:40 Piastri doing the "just a chill guy" meme kkkk
These intros are getting so chaotic, that when they do a normal intro it looks weird
I understand that Leclerc doesn't explode like this often, but he does whinge on the radio quite a lot. It begs the question how he will fare against Hamilton who is known for being a very dominant team mate. Sainz didn't really do anything wrong and Charles being slower and having cooked tyres at the end is not really Carlos' problem. There comes a point where team orders need to be ignored if they are stupid or overly impact one driver over the other and it is not in the interests of the team.
Fanboy Matt not seeing Carlos out qualified Charles. Beat him in the race and ignoring the fact Charles cooked his own tires early which cost him the advantage he gained early... It's hard to take him seriously.... Facts don't care about your feelings... 🫤
Charles is a better qualifier, Carlos is a better racer! Both are lacking world champion characteristics!
@@obud3777Carlos is not a better racer, Charles beats him the vast majority of the time
I’ve noticed a lot of people saying Charles’ tires fell off like no he destroyed them trying to catch George. If he’d gotten past Carlos at the start and just sat there and didn’t destroy the tires he would’ve been justified in feeling wrong about finishing behind him but he didn’t so…
*posts his own feelings*
Facts don't care about your feelings 😢😢😢😢😢😢
Also Stroll forgot the agreed upon tactic, so after the radio failed, Aston Martin crew weren't ready because he pitted earlier than what they had agreed upon pre-race.
Matt please, your reasoning on Leclerc is ridiculous. Carlos qualified ahead, was faster, Leclerc cooked his tyres in the first sting by being overly aggressive, so even if you want to argue some predetermined team orders, they would have been in Carlos' favor since he qualified ahead. Secondly, Leclerc should not have even been ahead of him after that second stop since they were not ready for Carlos when he had to pit and he lost seconds there. Take that into account and he is easily ahead of Leclerc. This was honestly a disgraceful radio from Leclerc, and it incited an insane response from so many "Ferarri fans". There were some big Ferrari accounts on twitter attacking Carlos, calling him a fraud, a fake Ferrari driver etc. Disgraceful. If the roles were reversed, all these "fans" would be calling Carlos a crybaby. He beat him fair and square, he was faster all weekend and that's that. Deserved podium, if Leclerc wanted that podium he should have driven faster. Simple as that.
I’m also just confused of Charles argument of “we discussed this before the race” (fighting for second in racer standings I bet but 🙄)
Carlos started in 2nd Charles in 4th……….
Soooooo
Nico an 8 is ridiculous who is voting on these lol. He may not have been very visible but he beat literally every car+driver he could possibly beat.
Yeah but he got overtaken by Hamilton in the fastest car of the weekend so because of that I’d only give him a 4/10 (joking of course)
Yeah this Charles bias is just getting laughable at this point. Gets outqualified AND finishes lower than his teammate (while having a better strategy mind you) and STILL gets the same points as Carlos.
Thanks Tommy for being unbiased. Unsubbing.
watch out guys…. lordedddardstark1621 has unsubbed 😔
I love how the intros are always so creative
4 ads and 3 personal ads in 11:30 i rate your greed for money over fans a 3/10
Wow
That's why Adblockers are a thing... unbearable to use the internet in 2024 without them
Just pay for YT subscription and get no ads
@@wildeturkey2006 you still get ads from the content creators lmao
@@panicbuyflax3461 and that’s why you click the 15 second skip button 2 or 3x that takes a whole 2 seconds to do.
Don’t be lazy and don’t be cheap.
It's amazing how everyone forgets that george wiped the floor with Lando in F2... (In equal machinery)
f2 is completely different to f1
I’m not sure the Gasly no damage thing is correct. Surely he got some damage after contact with Ocon in Monaco??
probably the Monaco incident doesn't count as it wasn't his fault, but at the same time when Magnussen tried to overtake and took out Perez who then took out Hülkenberg the 2 "victims' " damage was also counted into the destructors' championship
I think Ocon only hit his right front which is why his car didn't have any damage
I think the damage is what they themselves caused, ocon caused it so the bill wouldn’t be on gasly
@@aurionblackfyre8480 No, the damage doesn't take into account whose fault it was, it's just damaged sustained by the car no matter the circumstances.
@ oh ok, that’s good to know thanks
I cannot wait for Matt's face after Lewis and Charles create fireworks. Wonder what LH fans will do to Matt if he crucifies LH for his pookie Charles!!
Why would Oscar try and get in front of his team mates as he would only be told that he had to swap with his team mates .
The Sauber special livery looked so much better. They should keep it for the remaining races.
You guys definitely have to watch Lollipopman F1 comics video this week. They have a funny explanation for Ocon’s pit team not being ready.
Carlos was better than Charles this weekend, he should never have even been near Charles if Ferrari didn’t screw him over with the pit stop. He would have been well clear and challenged Lewis for P2. 9/10 for Carlos, 8/10 for Charles who made a great start and had a go for the win.
Can I suggest adding an overall race rating. Las Vegas was a banger at least 9/10
Best Intro yet 🤣
What's the point of pushing on Oscar's part when his teammate is the one ahead and Max so far more ahead. Better to chill and manage the tyres than compromise everything if he pushes more. He would never be allowed to pass his teammate, let's be real here
You gave him a 5 for being so far back from his teammate but that one got a 7 and no mention of how far back from Max he was? Yeah, lads, you're being objective there.
@@charmedbops If you listen to the onboatds and look at the telemetry the lack of objectivity is even more stark.
A little unfair to criticize Bottas for finishing behind his teammate considering he had a grid penalty and spent quali giving Zhou a tow. He didn’t really do anything in the race, and he did finish last, so it’s not a great performance, but there were circumstances against him preventing an exciting qualifying.
Giving Zhou a Tow? Where is your source?
@ IIRC they said that on the F1 TV broadcast. If I’m misremembering, or if they were wrong on the broadcast, then oopsies I guess!
people know Bottas is good and sauber is the problem.
"how do we think we they performed" - Matt Gallagher 0:37
For Hamilton to finish 5 secs behind Russel shows when he’s got the car he’s got more then what it takes, it was his fault in Q3 but Q1 and Q2 he was topping the timing sheets, I think he’s lot a bit of confidence on pushing the car over one lap, defo be interesting to see what happens next year. Russel is and has always been massively underrated by the fans! Remember that time he sat in for Hamilton in 2020 and would and should have won that race if it wasn’t for Mercedes phucking his pit stop up and then the puncture, and that’s with a car that wasn’t fitted for him!
He finished 7.5 seconds behind.
@@B88_f Quick point, George was the fastest in Q1.
Also think that Russel under no pressure was just taking it carefully
@ quite possibly, but we’ve seen over the year that Hamilton seems to have better race pace then George, just George is schooling Hamilton in quali, probably an age thing 🤷🏼♂️
These intro keep getting more and more unhinged and I’m here for it ❤lol
Welcome to another episode of overscoring Lando.
He lost the championship in style.
Could be a 6 but a 7 doesn't shock me. He did what the car allowed him to do.
28 seconds ahead of his teammate? Pretty good effort no?
Biasish Britas
@@alexsutherland9593 in 6th place with no fastest laps, lead no laps, and topped no sessions in a car from the top 4 teams. That’s a solid 5-6 there. Mark his team mate down a point for being even more mediocre.
"Everyone will agree on all" ... I didn't agree with myself on half of them, when filling it out^^
Have you guys thought about doing an overall race rating?
Bottas gets a 5 grid spot penalty, tows Zhou into Q2 and that's getting chefed...? Or confirming he's literally the best teammate ever.
Lawson a 5 what? The gap between him and yuki in qualifying and race was huge. He finished 2 or 3 last of the finishers. And went backward in the race. That was a bad performance. He doesn't deserve more than a 3.
a 5 is fair. He lost 1 place on a track he hasn't driven . Colapinto wrecks his car for the 4th time and gets a 5. You know expectations are so high for a driver on his 4th race and more givening for the popular rookie. Yuki did well but it is only a P9, but if he had of taken out Max on lap 1 that would be a 3 lol.
Yuki got a 9 so a 5 for Lawson ends up reflecting what you just said
Let's not forget that Lawson has 9 races in F1 total to Yukis 80+. He's a rookie for crying out loud. Yeah, I'm a Kiwi, so naturally a little biased, but objectively it wasn't his best performance, but it was Yukis!!
Also Vcarb left him out for way to long on old Hard tyres. Near the end he was practically beginning to pit.
Only so much can be done with those tyres.
Same thing they did to DaniRic in Baku
@@martinvandersandt4631 Team said they had messed up his car setup as well. So, it really was all working against him doing well.
Norris a 7 and Piastri a 5 when Piastri made up positions and Norris didn’t. Also Piastri was told to leave a gap at the end for Norris fastest lap makes no sense at all. They were both 6s. The got points they finished together, they were the 3rd fastest team not much more they could do with that.
7 for lando? I mean this was as mid a performance as possible. There’s no shame in giving a 5
clearly the car was the 4th fastest car
These intros are gold, please never stop 😂
I am enjoying how increasingly unhinged the intros are becoming. It reflects the general vibes of the world.
Max is seemingly collecting different runner ups/rivals like infinity stones. 😂
Lewis, Charles and now Lando couldn’t defeat Max. George is probably like: “Fine, I’ll do it myself”. 😂
That is actually the reason why he keeps winning it...
@@Rob2the reason be keeps winning js because he's the best driver on the grid by some margin.
@@daarom3472 People say "it is just the car" but I think that when next year there are 4 teams of approximately equal strength, and all 4 of them win races, maybe even the same number (3 wins for each driver, assuming Checo is replaced), Max will still win the championship because on the races he does not win he has a better average than the others.
@@daarom3472 Sometimes being the best driver on the grid won't be enough, Max won 1 race out of the last 12.
@@soundscape26 basically 0 if you look at genuine race pace. And his car had no business being on the podium in Silverstone and COTA (and arguably even in Zandvoort/Singapore).
I think George will win a title before Lando, Charles or Oscar.
@@gm_28 Always car dependable
Wish 2 pit stops was the standard for all tracks it makes things more interesting
Matt you should feel embarrassed about the way you talk about Leclerc. Imagine basing your whole personality around another man’s success.
These intros 😂😂 I nearly drowned cause I was taking a sip of water when I pressed play!
I lost it at Matt's heavy breathing 😂😂😂
Well fans gave 5 to Fernando and 6 to Piastri, yeah very competent fans around I think
The intro was gold.
tommy is the smart one
Russell Vs Verstappen is the next great championship battle. That title battle would be incredibly unpredictable as there’s no guarantee on who’d win.
Both are incredibly ruthless, and as George allegedly said last season at Baku: “I’m here to fight, I’m here to win. I’m not just going to wave him (Max) by just because he’s Max Verstappen in a Red Bull”. 👀
George bottles too much
@@MrTomWaffles No he doesn’t. He’s been incredibly consistent this season. And shows in the H2H against Lewis.
He’d probably have at least four wins this season if it wasn’t for Merc incompetence. Which would give him more wins than anyone but Max in a very unpredictable/inconsistent car.
Russel is one of the best qualifiers in the sport. Almost got pole with a backmarker Williams. Give him an equal car and he’s likely on pole 9/10 times.
@@paperplane-db8qf And at which point he can set the trend of the race. As he’s been phenomenal at starts too. Thinking back to Spain and Brazil this season.
George is very quick, but quickly becomes error-prone and nervous in tricky situations. If it really were to come to a head-to-head duel, it would be clearly in Max's favour. But I don't really see Max in the championship fight next year. Over the winter, the last bit of the Newey factor will disappear for Red Bull.
You know that Mercedes might actually be quick in Qatar too since this time it's late in the year so it's actually kinda of cold there not like last season where the race was in October
Just had a look at the weather for the weekend in Qatar and it ranges from 18c in the night to 24c in the day. A bit warmer than Las Vegas.
So sad I missed the live commentary for Matt's live reaction on Zhou in point-scoring potential.
Max dropped back to ensure he had good tires in case of a VSC.
He said he would have battled for the podium if he didnt need to think about a VSC and Norris.
You guys should do a live show end of season in Amsterdam! I would defo come!
Giving lando a 7 (p6)while giving Oscar a 5 (p7)is such an L take
oscar go a penlty that why nd quailifed behind tsunado thats 2 .oscar shou be faste on merit then tsundo a the very least in qualyfying
Call it spade for spade, Charles threw a tantrum. The Lecfosi are going to STRUGGLE with Team LH. I actually really like Leclerc and rate him but his fans act like he’s Schumacher without the resume.