This list was going along perfect and then you got to Insomniac and to me I was like Easy easy S tier but you put them in A and then it made the list feel just off. There easy S tier to me Tools of destruction Crack in time Spider-Man 2018 Rift apart Spider-Man 2 All 10/10 games imo
Atlus is such an interesting “s” to me. It’s so incredibly niche, persona and their other titles aren’t for everyone but Bethesda and ID both come in lower which arguably have more history in gaming than atlus ever will. Starfield is meh but Bethesda has had so much great and ID I don’t even need to talk about their last few dooms are incredible.
wow has been the most beloved mmo for the past 20 years, starcrafts community is insane and overwatchs run was only topped by fortnite. overwatchs “fall off” has still left it better and more popular than halo, apex legends, pubg, siege and battlefield. still arguably better than fortnite and cod as well. theres been literally no room for another hero shooter bc of overwatch something the likes of csgo couldn’t even accomplish.
@@honchoreckless4180 respectfully this is objectively not true. the fall from grace of blizzard is not from anyone one game but a mismanagement of the company. I agree that the overwatch fall off is not as drastic as people think but the cause of that to be a talking point was a symptom of a bigger issue.
@@renelun3147 what i’m saying is the “fall from grace” objectively cannot be a thing. maybe if blizzard was only 10 years old, but they’ve been outperforming everyone for the past 25 years. they’ve only been iffy for the past 4 years or so. their positive track record supersedes their negative by a long shot.
@@honchoreckless4180 I understand the sentiment but that's not how these things are tracked from a business ( and in turn success track) perspective. just because the behavior is new doesnt mean the pattern and results of it arent showing yet. so objectively it does exist and it is a HUGE fall at a management level its one of the reasons Microsoft was incentivized to buy em out. That being said this fall from grace can be rectified and we may see a new peak for Blizzard but as of right now that remains to be seen since we have seen no projects from Blizzard while under MS that wasn't already in development.
Scalebound is for sure my saddest cancel, wouldve changed the outlook of Xbox Exclusives, Platinum Games, and Dragon Games (as a PlayStation Diehard, i wouldve bought an xbox for it; we need more Dragon Games)
Question why was the VR game brought up when talking about team asobi? Japan studio made that game and then shortly after people split off took Astrobot with them and made playroom and 2024
imo, blizzard would be like a low A - high B, because even though they were no doubt some of the most integral pioneers in the mmo and rts scene, they've fallen off so hard, and none of their modern games are really that good anymore. The only blizzard games that still have a strong player base are mostly just like legacy editions or games that haven't tried to self-destruct(unlike world of warcraft).
Blizzard even being that high is insane to me (A tier) but maybe it's just the fall off feeling way too hard. Then again the Cosby room stuff is too much to ignore
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New viewer here, this video was excellent! I loved it! Glad Atlus moved to S where it belongs!
Needed this pod this week. Rough week. Thanks guys. ❤
Loved Nick trying to watch season 2 together, and Connor just brushing it off as a clear no. Classic sibling behavior.
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CDPR in B tier is criminal.
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4A games at C tier hurts. Easy A tier company. Visuals, atmosphere, story, gunplay, stealth mechanics are all amazing.
I’m early on but Atlus only a A is a war crime that’s an S without doubt
after all the modern Persona games AND Metaphor: Refantazio, Atlus definitely deserves to be in S tier. I 100% agree.
Best part of Monday! Appreciate you guys getting a podcast out despite technical difficulties yesterday!
After Silent Hil 2 Remake and Observer, Bloober Team in that tier is sad.
This list was going along perfect and then you got to Insomniac and to me I was like Easy easy S tier but you put them in A and then it made the list feel just off. There easy S tier to me
Tools of destruction
Crack in time
Spider-Man 2018
Rift apart
Spider-Man 2
All 10/10 games imo
SE lows are definitely lower than Atlus lows..SE is literally bleeding $ other than XIV…
Atlus moved to S? Never saw that coming.
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Atlus is such an interesting “s” to me. It’s so incredibly niche, persona and their other titles aren’t for everyone but Bethesda and ID both come in lower which arguably have more history in gaming than atlus ever will. Starfield is meh but Bethesda has had so much great and ID I don’t even need to talk about their last few dooms are incredible.
Just heard the end lol ID in S thank god
Jesus Christ Hellblade 1 is great but Silent Hill 2 is on a completely different level
Rareware the OG S tier in my heart
Yessssss
Wish 989 studios made the draft. They had some bangers
I’m so happy Blizzard was moved out of S tier, the fall from grace is too much to justify S
wow has been the most beloved mmo for the past 20 years, starcrafts community is insane and overwatchs run was only topped by fortnite.
overwatchs “fall off” has still left it better and more popular than halo, apex legends, pubg, siege and battlefield. still arguably better than fortnite and cod as well. theres been literally no room for another hero shooter bc of overwatch something the likes of csgo couldn’t even accomplish.
@@honchoreckless4180 not to mention Diablo4 is in a very good spot right now and vessel of hatred had really good reviews
@@honchoreckless4180 respectfully this is objectively not true. the fall from grace of blizzard is not from anyone one game but a mismanagement of the company.
I agree that the overwatch fall off is not as drastic as people think but the cause of that to be a talking point was a symptom of a bigger issue.
@@renelun3147 what i’m saying is the “fall from grace” objectively cannot be a thing. maybe if blizzard was only 10 years old, but they’ve been outperforming everyone for the past 25 years. they’ve only been iffy for the past 4 years or so.
their positive track record supersedes their negative by a long shot.
@@honchoreckless4180 I understand the sentiment but that's not how these things are tracked from a business ( and in turn success track) perspective. just because the behavior is new doesnt mean the pattern and results of it arent showing yet.
so objectively it does exist and it is a HUGE fall at a management level its one of the reasons Microsoft was incentivized to buy em out.
That being said this fall from grace can be rectified and we may see a new peak for Blizzard but as of right now that remains to be seen since we have seen no projects from Blizzard while under MS that wasn't already in development.
Yall got 2 different dads no doubt
Yall forgot one of the best jrpg Studios in falcom
Hello games and Hal laboratory on the same tier is sending me 😭
Scalebound is for sure my saddest cancel, wouldve changed the outlook of Xbox Exclusives, Platinum Games, and Dragon Games (as a PlayStation Diehard, i wouldve bought an xbox for it; we need more Dragon Games)
Question why was the VR game brought up when talking about team asobi? Japan studio made that game and then shortly after people split off took Astrobot with them and made playroom and 2024
imo, blizzard would be like a low A - high B, because even though they were no doubt some of the most integral pioneers in the mmo and rts scene, they've fallen off so hard, and none of their modern games are really that good anymore. The only blizzard games that still have a strong player base are mostly just like legacy editions or games that haven't tried to self-destruct(unlike world of warcraft).
where is Game World and where is Gaijin? :{
before watching... Japanese devs will be S tier, KR A, Western B-F
Epic Games…
If bioware is a tier then so is bethesda
Blizzard even being that high is insane to me (A tier) but maybe it's just the fall off feeling way too hard.
Then again the Cosby room stuff is too much to ignore
Lots of bad takes as usual