Thank you for this great video. It is always great for us seekers to share our perspectives so that all beings can benefit and be liberated. imo, all traditions are for liberation, end of suffering or finding joy/ happiness. In this sense, there are many paths to one same destination. Advaita Vedanta (Self / consciousness / awareness) vs Buddhism (Anatman / non-self). Basically, in Advaita - we are the awareness without borders; the witnessing presence with no boundaries - as such, it is Oneness - all Selves in us, and us in all Selves. Looking further, the Self alone exists. Buddhism - our concept of self comes from our memories of our past and imaginations of the future - basically, content/story of our lives. Drop the memories and imaginations, there is nothing there, but the non-self and the spaciousness that comes with it. imo, at this stage, who is aware of that? But, the Self. In this sense, the non-self takes on the color of the Self. They are the same, but coming from a different direction. 2 side of the same coin. Just sharing. Peace. 🙏
Someone left a great comment here which was later removed (by the user or by TH-cam, I'm not sure). One of the points made was that the main difference between these two traditions really just comes down to language. Very well said! Also, to the person who posted the comment: if you took the comment down of your own accord that is great, but if it was taken down by TH-cam automatically (it might have been too long) please consider reposting the comment, perhaps in a couple different parts. The comment was full of great insights, and the whole reason I want to make videos here is to get conversations going and hear everyone's experiences. Thanks to everyone!
At their core both support monism (union) and agree that dualism (separateness) only exists in the confused mind which is the source of all suffering. Both agree that our true nature is the divine (described as the unchanging, unborn, emptiness, pure potential, Brahma, etc) and not the body, mind and thoughts which we identify with as being all there is to us. Like time and space, the concept of birth and death is man-made and can be challenged by recognizing that you existed in your parents and their parents and other variations of "life" forms before you we supposedly "born". Now take a look and see how the dualistic mind which believes in self and other, thus or that -- creates all the havoc in the world
Thank you for this extremely incisive comment! I think your last point is especially important because these teachings both aim at eliminating our suffering, which has only arisen because of ignorance.
Buddhism and Advaita Vedanta are fundamentally the same. We are not the body mind they are gifts for experiencing consciousness.Things (the universe) are appearances in consciousness. Soon physicists will prove this. Awakening has begun. J. Krishnamurti has pointed to this without the religious dogma which appeals to me.
Both are not the same... Vedanta is fully based on The Self but the Buddhist way believes in Non Self. Adi Shankaracharya came to destroy Buddhism from Bhārata and re-establish Sanātana Dharma...
Thank you for this video. I listen to Vedanta New York and swami Sarvapriyananda has a video on how similar both Buddhism and Vedanta are in terms of describing our true nature. I'm learning so much from great teachers and fellow seekers. Thank you!
I like your discussion. I used to wonder like you do, but according to neuro anatomy which is my major, I found them go to the same destination. Buddhism look at the reflecting sun in the pot (Self consciousness) and manage to see the real sun outside the pot(Pure consciousness) and fix from different aspect. That's why Buddha said, Rupan anija, - Yes , that's exactly the same as self consciousness is Maya. One different things that Buddha different from Vedanta is Buddha propose "Satipathan" or mindfulness as a way to reach and get out from Maya. and doing 8 fold path which is a simplified version from traditional Vedic do. At that time, these knowledge is preserved only for some certain group of elite. So, that's why Buddha convey these knowledge in Pali to be accessible for many people. Buddha himself also grown up in Vedic knowledge like Sadnada Dharma. In my opinion, I think Vedic is more like quantum physics who love to study about all waves and vibrations in things inside the body and in the universe. They are scientist. On the other hand, I think Buddha is more like psychologist who tried to fix people's mind with easy and accessible way. However, from quantum physics, neuro science - my answer is yes. They are the same. ,
Buddhism and Vedanta is like a cousin. They like brothers not enemy. People like to argue but it was totally from different point they stand for. If only they step backward and see the whole picture, they will find that it is so funny that they had been argue for such a long time. They heading the same direction.
Thank you for such a great comment. I hadn't thought of it but I think your analogy is true about Buddhists and Vedantists. I believe this is the main reason why there are different paths and approaches: we tend to find paths that resonate with us.
@@embracelucky6282 yeah , I was once searching through internet to find compelling arguments against Brahman of Vedanta from Buddhists, Lot of them misunderstood atman , They often compare consciousness of mind to atman , to egoism etc etc ,
@@Antonio-uc7vn Brahman and Atman is actually the luminous mind in Buddhism. It is a state of bliss - you expels 5 senses and above your thinking mind- that’s what explained well in Upanishad and Vedic. Vedic use mind inside to resonate higher consciousness outside gray matter. ( God is omnipresent - love and kindness god= higher consciousness) but Buddhism do not concern about put your mind in hand of god but rather change yourself by your own ability. But normal Buddhism, they do not learn about “ Chitta” deep , I mean in anatomical way like Apidharma, then they use their thinking to solve problem. Thinking based on believe. Then they do not understand the real and other aspect of Atman and Brahman. It just different approaches but same direction. One stick with unconditional love, one applied and call love and kindness. However some of many ones forget the kindness and judgment 😂😂😂😂
At their core Buddhism and Vedanta are almost the same. The only difference is the fact that Vedanta says that Atman exists while Buddhism says that it doesn't. In fact, similar thoughts can be found in other religions.
I practice Buddhism but my root guru happens to be a Vedantin. When you are shown the nature of mind for the first time, you never forget it. The problem, though, is that I feel that Vedanta is imprecise with its ontology and it is predicated on the assumed existence of a deity. Because Vedanta is based on the Upanishads, practitioners tend to rely on the words of the rishis as gospel rather than examining meditational experience rigorously for themselves. Additionally, I have problems with the way that Vedanta talks about eternalism and interdependence as if they can both exist at the same time. It posits that interdependence is only part of the equation when it comes to karma, but at the same time, it emphasizes that karma (and samsaric existence) is simply the result of cause and effect. So which is it, is everything interdependent, or is it subject to the will of an omnipotent divinity? Are humans the cause of gods, or are gods the cause of humans? If brahman underlies samsara and is eternal, then how can something that is permanent result in something that is constantly shifting? Buddhism bases its ontology on meditational praxis, which cuts directly past most of these theological problems. Tantric Hinduism, actually, is more compatible with Buddhist dogma as a whole.
In Buddhism there is no self and in Vedanta there is no ego, i.e. the same thing. In Vedanta the human "Self", capital S , refers to Atman. Atman is a "shard" of Brahman. So Self does denote Brahman. Both teach that there is no separate self.
Buddhism is a very difficult Philosophy In that all the sensory faculties eyes/ears/nose/tongue/body and brain are all faculties which brings different sensations from the outside world. These inputs arouse our sensations in a being eyes see an object and the ears the sensation of hearing the nose the sensation of smell ,the body the sensation of feelings ,the brain the sensation of memory and thought All these are conveyed through vibrations only. And vibrations come in the form frequencies and the measuring unit being -Hertz All the sensational faculties receive these vibrations in the form of frequencies only. The eyes receives the highest frequency level whilst the ears much lower ,so on and so forth. They never get mixed-up The eye sensation have the possibility of receiving the light frequency only and not the sound. These inputs constantly bombard the consciousness and we identify it by the object we have seen or what we have heard as consciousness interpret it as what it is. Consciousness is considered as Nama and all other sensations giving faculties and in puts received from outside is considered as Rupa. The consciousness in us is considered as a fine carpenter who will day in and day out make fine furniture out of the inputs received. All inputs are all forms matter and is changing at an unbelievable speed so also the faculties .Therefore what you see does not exist as the way it is but has under gone an incredible change. This goes true for the outside body in as much as the faculties And we are caught up in mirage The speed at which consciousness is far greater than that of matter and we are caught up like a Jack in the box For instance for Niel Arm strong to reflect his first step on the moon which is 385,000 miles away how long did it take This very instant. So also for an astronaut who were billions of miles in out space. How long would it take? This very instant. It is for this reason that Lord Buddha said Conquer the Mind Conquer the World" where you see true reality of everything. That everything is nonexistent. But the carpenter is making everything for us and we have got caught up with an illusion. Through meditation you got to knock off the carpenter in us which is the day we see true reality. Not to be carried away by the carpenters work but to knock it through right understanding that it's a mirage. That is the day that a being will see the truth. And achieve Arahath hood Saintly Person and cross over to Nibana. At which point like the person who will not carry the rafter which on his back which gave him the opportunity to cross the river he will leave behind all attachments, towards the Buddha, Dhamma, And the Sanga. What a beautiful Philosophy No comparison
I understand the difference between the Buddhist no-self and vedantic self or atma through imagery - if you drew a circle and put a dot in the middle, this to “me” (😂) represents the Buddhist no-self, the dot is the 5 aggregates (the physical body, emotions etc.) and the outer circle is everything, source, oneness. There is no self here. For the vedantic self I imagine a dot, with a circle that floats above and a funnel that connects the two, the tunnel is the vedantic self. I don’t know if this rings true, it’s just how I see it 🙏🏽
Self realized "Enlightened" Buddha", understood the entire universal phenomena on how conscious energies behave, designs with help of universal elements, which human six sensory aggregates perceptions , eye, ear, nose, tongue, body (touch), & mind feeling senses. call subjects physical universes as objects, amalgamate & generate to a energy which will produce a " thought" become a life energies ( kamma } as conscious in 31 realms of existence in this solar system. Within " qualities " of kamma (conscious ) energy forms. According to Lord Buddha, Human form is unique of all other forms, because of completed "Human Brain" which capable to enlightenment . In this very Human life. In Theravada Buddhism. 1000000 to one Second chance is very minimum and rare to gain a Human life. Factor of ." Kammic " phenomena Abhidhamma, Thrirpitaka, dipendent origination ( patichcha-samuppada ) scriptures explains in authentic Buddhas' teachings.
What is our life? Use body parts based on thoughts. There is no thinker but there is a thinking process. This process has 3 parts. Physical body, knowledge and inner mind. Inner mind means different natures of yours. Liking, disliking, desires, anger, fear, etc., this will go from one life to another. Developing the 2nd part (knowledge) inner mind can be stopped going from one life to another. No rebirth. All these 3 parts are energies. Latter 2 cannot be seen physically.
If your aim is to stay in the self - you stay there, if you´re aim is to leave the self - you can leave it. So why should one be wrong and the other right?
Dear Sir , Thank you for à most clear and reasonable exposition of why Vedanta and Buddhism are the same. As the Puranas say, only fools see the differences. Believe me there is a lot of foolishness on the subject on the internet, even from so-called experts and academics. Very comforting to hear an intelligent voice for once !
I suppose we could also argue about whether reincarnation (vedanta) is true, Vs. rebirth (Buddhism) is true. That won't make any difference either. Are you going to do something different in accordance with whether you believe in Dual or non-dual? The laws of the universe don't care which you believe. You can waste a lot of time pondering the imponderables.
This is an excellent point! And I think one way the Buddha put this is that these types of questions "are not connected with what is good, not connected with the Dharma, do not belong to the fundamentals of the moral life. They do not lead to disenchantment, to absence of desire, to cessation, to calm, to higher knowledge (gnosis), to enlightenment, to Nirvana," (from the Potthapada Sutta). It's definitely a good idea for us not to waste our limited time upon things which don't / won't actually matter.
What I personnely feel is that Buddhism tend to add conditions to nirvana, then Vedanta strips conditions to access real clarity of nondual reality. It returns to the same reconnaissance of ignorance we must transcend. (Please excuse my poor english writing).
If in Bharat {India} through 5000 years ago, If there were people who realized before Buddha, & spread the word of Enlightenment ? Why ? in 2600/ 3000 years ago, Bodhisattva Gothama Siddhartha went to seek the universal truth , After realizing & attain Enlightenment, the Buddha understood "four Noble Truths, the " base was "CONSCIOUS ENERGY", which designing Life, in 31 realms in our solar system & entire endless Universe !! Before Gothama Siddhartha's Enlightenment his last teachers were practicing Hinduism "vedaantha, in Sanskrit language " Five atheistic, who with Hindu yoga practice couldn't attain "Enlightenment only on , "Dhyaan " states of consciousness, stages is to Moksha. " Not for " Nibbana or liberation " !!! . After Enlightenment Lord Buddha selected to preach his theology {Dhamma } in "marghadee sound language" which later written in "pela dhahama" " pali" it was pure " sinhala" language. In Lanka dweepa. { Jambudweepa } In Buddha Dhamma dependent origination, "patichcha-samuppada " explains how process happening in Human condition & other universal beings. Buddhism is for human beings to extinguish conscious energy forming in this very life. " Kamma " conscious energy, the cause & effect decides after death existence.
I would be interested to see what others recommend, but the following non-Buddhist teachings come to mind: the Principal Upanishads (such as the Isha, Kena, Katha...), the Bhagavad Gita, the Atma Bodha (etc.) of Shankaracharya, and the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali. And I completely agree with you regarding the Buddha's teachings.
Advaita Vedanta tell us about Non duality.. So, actually Nonduality = No self. Because if there is "I", it must be there is "you". But the reality is non dual, so there is no I and you. Sorry for my bad english 😁
Thank you 😃🙏. And I think Mahavakya - "Tat tvam asi" which is mean that is you or you are that, has also the same meaning with Anatta (no self). Because I, you, that, and everything are essentially the same "thing" (in absolute reality) 😁🙏
IMHO, Buddhism and Vedanta describe the same spiritual experience in different but equivalent ways. Buddhist way of describing things avoids the concept of God and individual self, which they call Atta, while Advaita Vedanta embraces both as Brahman and Atman, which is just nonindividual, borderless consciousness. In Mahayana buddhism, the empty, nonself phenomena are often called Tathata (suchness) which seems to me exactly the same as Vedanta's Brahman. Also, Buddhist's pure nonself consciousness, called Bodhi-chit or Buddha-nature, seems to me exactly the same as Advaitin's Atman, which in truth is identical to Brahman. Nirvana is Moksha. Enlightenment is Self-realization (that atman = Brahman). A Buddha (or an arahant) is a jivanmukta. Buddha-nature is Atman. Tathata is Brahman. And 1st century Nagarjuna and 8th century Adi Shankara would laugh wholeheartedly together at all those superficial, unimportant differences in using language. With all these mapping bridges, one could roam with great ease in both paths and benefit from them without any contradictions.
0.000000000000000000000000000000001% information on vedant. Learn more then come to conclusion. Bhudha didn't answer the question on atmah because if he said yes he agrees to aduat and if he says no then what. So he just copied the veda mumble jumble the words and chose not to answer some question. I am just saying that both are same but you can get stuck in budhism. Question yourself then what if not
Buddha: I searched everywhere but i couldn't find a self.
Advaitin: then who was that who was searching.
There is neither a "self" nor their it's not.
Don't become attached to the Idea of "self".
Peace
Thank you for this great video. It is always great for us seekers to share our perspectives so that all beings can benefit and be liberated. imo, all traditions are for liberation, end of suffering or finding joy/ happiness. In this sense, there are many paths to one same destination. Advaita Vedanta (Self / consciousness / awareness) vs Buddhism (Anatman / non-self). Basically, in Advaita - we are the awareness without borders; the witnessing presence with no boundaries - as such, it is Oneness - all Selves in us, and us in all Selves. Looking further, the Self alone exists. Buddhism - our concept of self comes from our memories of our past and imaginations of the future - basically, content/story of our lives. Drop the memories and imaginations, there is nothing there, but the non-self and the spaciousness that comes with it. imo, at this stage, who is aware of that? But, the Self. In this sense, the non-self takes on the color of the Self. They are the same, but coming from a different direction. 2 side of the same coin. Just sharing. Peace. 🙏
Someone left a great comment here which was later removed (by the user or by TH-cam, I'm not sure). One of the points made was that the main difference between these two traditions really just comes down to language. Very well said!
Also, to the person who posted the comment: if you took the comment down of your own accord that is great, but if it was taken down by TH-cam automatically (it might have been too long) please consider reposting the comment, perhaps in a couple different parts. The comment was full of great insights, and the whole reason I want to make videos here is to get conversations going and hear everyone's experiences. Thanks to everyone!
words which form concepts nama rupa The 'center" of the mind is the same void, Brahma
@@deanyanko3326 yes!
At their core both support monism (union) and agree that dualism (separateness) only exists in the confused mind which is the source of all suffering. Both agree that our true nature is the divine (described as the unchanging, unborn, emptiness, pure potential, Brahma, etc) and not the body, mind and thoughts which we identify with as being all there is to us. Like time and space, the concept of birth and death is man-made and can be challenged by recognizing that you existed in your parents and their parents and other variations of "life" forms before you we supposedly "born". Now take a look and see how the dualistic mind which believes in self and other, thus or that -- creates all the havoc in the world
Thank you for this extremely incisive comment! I think your last point is especially important because these teachings both aim at eliminating our suffering, which has only arisen because of ignorance.
Buddhism and Advaita Vedanta are fundamentally the same. We are not the body mind they are gifts for experiencing consciousness.Things (the universe) are appearances in consciousness. Soon physicists will prove this. Awakening has begun. J. Krishnamurti has pointed to this without the religious dogma which appeals to me.
Both are not the same... Vedanta is fully based on The Self but the Buddhist way believes in Non Self.
Adi Shankaracharya came to destroy Buddhism from Bhārata and re-establish Sanātana Dharma...
Thank you for this video. I listen to Vedanta New York and swami Sarvapriyananda has a video on how similar both Buddhism and Vedanta are in terms of describing our true nature. I'm learning so much from great teachers and fellow seekers. Thank you!
I like your discussion. I used to wonder like you do, but according to neuro anatomy which is my major, I found them go to the same destination. Buddhism look at the reflecting sun in the pot (Self consciousness) and manage to see the real sun outside the pot(Pure consciousness) and fix from different aspect. That's why Buddha said, Rupan anija, - Yes , that's exactly the same as self consciousness is Maya. One different things that Buddha different from Vedanta is Buddha propose "Satipathan" or mindfulness as a way to reach and get out from Maya. and doing 8 fold path which is a simplified version from traditional Vedic do. At that time, these knowledge is preserved only for some certain group of elite. So, that's why Buddha convey these knowledge in Pali to be accessible for many people. Buddha himself also grown up in Vedic knowledge like Sadnada Dharma. In my opinion, I think Vedic is more like quantum physics who love to study about all waves and vibrations in things inside the body and in the universe. They are scientist. On the other hand, I think Buddha is more like psychologist who tried to fix people's mind with easy and accessible way. However, from quantum physics, neuro science - my answer is yes. They are the same. ,
Buddhism and Vedanta is like a cousin. They like brothers not enemy. People like to argue but it was totally from different point they stand for. If only they step backward and see the whole picture, they will find that it is so funny that they had been argue for such a long time. They heading the same direction.
Thank you for such a great comment. I hadn't thought of it but I think your analogy is true about Buddhists and Vedantists. I believe this is the main reason why there are different paths and approaches: we tend to find paths that resonate with us.
@@embracelucky6282 yeah ,
I was once searching through internet to find compelling arguments against Brahman of Vedanta from Buddhists,
Lot of them misunderstood atman ,
They often compare consciousness of mind to atman , to egoism etc etc ,
@@Antonio-uc7vn Brahman and Atman is actually the luminous mind in Buddhism. It is a state of bliss - you expels 5 senses and above your thinking mind- that’s what explained well in Upanishad and Vedic. Vedic use mind inside to resonate higher consciousness outside gray matter. ( God is omnipresent - love and kindness god= higher consciousness) but Buddhism do not concern about put your mind in hand of god but rather change yourself by your own ability. But normal Buddhism, they do not learn about “ Chitta” deep , I mean in anatomical way like Apidharma, then they use their thinking to solve problem. Thinking based on believe. Then they do not understand the real and other aspect of Atman and Brahman. It just different approaches but same direction. One stick with unconditional love, one applied and call love and kindness. However some of many ones forget the kindness and judgment 😂😂😂😂
You are very right and well explained... Thanks & gratitude from India... 🙏😊
Thank you so much!
At their core Buddhism and Vedanta are almost the same. The only difference is the fact that Vedanta says that Atman exists while Buddhism says that it doesn't. In fact, similar thoughts can be found in other religions.
Only Mahayana buddhism and Advaita Vedanta
I practice Buddhism but my root guru happens to be a Vedantin. When you are shown the nature of mind for the first time, you never forget it.
The problem, though, is that I feel that Vedanta is imprecise with its ontology and it is predicated on the assumed existence of a deity. Because Vedanta is based on the Upanishads, practitioners tend to rely on the words of the rishis as gospel rather than examining meditational experience rigorously for themselves. Additionally, I have problems with the way that Vedanta talks about eternalism and interdependence as if they can both exist at the same time. It posits that interdependence is only part of the equation when it comes to karma, but at the same time, it emphasizes that karma (and samsaric existence) is simply the result of cause and effect. So which is it, is everything interdependent, or is it subject to the will of an omnipotent divinity? Are humans the cause of gods, or are gods the cause of humans? If brahman underlies samsara and is eternal, then how can something that is permanent result in something that is constantly shifting?
Buddhism bases its ontology on meditational praxis, which cuts directly past most of these theological problems. Tantric Hinduism, actually, is more compatible with Buddhist dogma as a whole.
Very wonderfully shared
Great insights ❤
Thank you so much!
In Buddhism there is no self and in Vedanta there is no ego, i.e. the same thing. In Vedanta the human "Self", capital S , refers to Atman. Atman is a "shard" of Brahman. So Self does denote Brahman. Both teach that there is no separate self.
Buddhism is a very difficult Philosophy In that all the sensory faculties eyes/ears/nose/tongue/body and brain are all faculties which brings different sensations from the outside world. These inputs arouse our sensations in a being eyes see an object and the ears the sensation of hearing the nose the sensation of smell ,the body the sensation of feelings ,the brain the sensation of memory and thought All these are conveyed through vibrations only. And vibrations come in the form frequencies and the measuring unit being -Hertz All the sensational faculties receive these vibrations in the form of frequencies only. The eyes receives the highest frequency level whilst the ears much lower ,so on and so forth. They never get mixed-up The eye sensation have the possibility of receiving the light frequency only and not the sound. These inputs constantly bombard the consciousness and we identify it by the object we have seen or what we have heard as consciousness interpret it as what it is. Consciousness is considered as Nama and all other sensations giving faculties and in puts received from outside is considered as Rupa. The consciousness in us is considered as a fine carpenter who will day in and day out make fine furniture out of the inputs received. All inputs are all forms matter and is changing at an unbelievable speed so also the faculties .Therefore what you see does not exist as the way it is but has under gone an incredible change. This goes true for the outside body in as much as the faculties And we are caught up in mirage The speed at which consciousness is far greater than that of matter and we are caught up like a Jack in the box For instance for Niel Arm strong to reflect his first step on the moon which is 385,000 miles away how long did it take This very instant. So also for an astronaut who were billions of miles in out space. How long would it take? This very instant. It is for this reason that Lord Buddha said Conquer the Mind Conquer the World" where you see true reality of everything. That everything is nonexistent. But the carpenter is making everything for us and we have got caught up with an illusion. Through meditation you got to knock off the carpenter in us which is the day we see true reality. Not to be carried away by the carpenters work but to knock it through right understanding that it's a mirage. That is the day that a being will see the truth. And achieve Arahath hood Saintly Person and cross over to Nibana. At which point like the person who will not carry the rafter which on his back which gave him the opportunity to cross the river he will leave behind all attachments, towards the Buddha, Dhamma, And the Sanga. What a beautiful Philosophy No comparison
Thank you for such an insightful comment. The imagery is very helpful!
Very insightful comment.
I understand the difference between the Buddhist no-self and vedantic self or atma through imagery - if you drew a circle and put a dot in the middle, this to “me” (😂) represents the Buddhist no-self, the dot is the 5 aggregates (the physical body, emotions etc.) and the outer circle is everything, source, oneness. There is no self here.
For the vedantic self I imagine a dot, with a circle that floats above and a funnel that connects the two, the tunnel is the vedantic self.
I don’t know if this rings true, it’s just how I see it 🙏🏽
I love your image(s): very helpful!
Self realized "Enlightened" Buddha", understood the entire universal phenomena on how conscious energies behave, designs with help of universal elements, which human six sensory aggregates perceptions , eye, ear, nose, tongue, body (touch), & mind feeling senses. call subjects physical universes as objects, amalgamate & generate to a energy which will produce a " thought" become a life energies ( kamma } as conscious in 31 realms of existence in this solar system. Within " qualities " of kamma (conscious ) energy forms. According to Lord Buddha, Human form is unique of all other forms, because of completed "Human Brain" which capable to enlightenment . In this very Human life. In Theravada Buddhism. 1000000 to one Second chance is very minimum and rare to gain a Human life. Factor of ." Kammic " phenomena Abhidhamma, Thrirpitaka, dipendent origination ( patichcha-samuppada ) scriptures explains in authentic Buddhas' teachings.
What is our life? Use body parts based on thoughts. There is no thinker but there is a thinking process. This process has 3 parts. Physical body, knowledge and inner mind. Inner mind means different natures of yours. Liking, disliking, desires, anger, fear, etc., this will go from one life to another. Developing the 2nd part (knowledge) inner mind can be stopped going from one life to another. No rebirth. All these 3 parts are energies. Latter 2 cannot be seen physically.
If your aim is to stay in the self - you stay there, if you´re aim is to leave the self - you can leave it. So why should one be wrong and the other right?
That's a very good point and a very good question: certainly the categories of right and wrong need to be applied carefully.
@@esotericbabble877 Maybe this is a clue? Epictetus, greek philosopher said “You become what you give your attention to".
@@rantromse2051 yes!
Dear Sir ,
Thank you for à most clear and reasonable exposition of why Vedanta and Buddhism are the same. As the Puranas say, only fools see the differences. Believe me there is a lot of foolishness on the subject on the internet, even from so-called experts and academics. Very comforting to hear an intelligent voice for once !
Thank you for such a wonderful response. I love your quote from the Puranas!
I suppose we could also argue about whether reincarnation (vedanta) is true, Vs. rebirth (Buddhism) is true. That won't make any difference either.
Are you going to do something different in accordance with whether you believe in Dual or non-dual? The laws of the universe don't care which you believe.
You can waste a lot of time pondering the imponderables.
This is an excellent point! And I think one way the Buddha put this is that these types of questions "are not connected with what is good, not connected with the Dharma, do not belong to the fundamentals of the moral life. They do not lead to disenchantment, to absence of desire, to cessation, to calm, to higher knowledge (gnosis), to enlightenment, to Nirvana," (from the Potthapada Sutta). It's definitely a good idea for us not to waste our limited time upon things which don't / won't actually matter.
What I personnely feel is that Buddhism tend to add conditions to nirvana, then Vedanta strips conditions to access real clarity of nondual reality. It returns to the same reconnaissance of ignorance we must transcend. (Please excuse my poor english writing).
Thank you for this insight: transcending ignorance is the goal (And your English is great, btw!)
If in Bharat {India} through 5000 years ago, If there were people who realized before Buddha, & spread the word of Enlightenment ? Why ? in 2600/ 3000 years ago, Bodhisattva Gothama Siddhartha went to seek the universal truth , After realizing & attain Enlightenment, the Buddha understood "four Noble Truths, the " base was "CONSCIOUS ENERGY", which designing Life, in 31 realms in our solar system & entire endless Universe !! Before Gothama Siddhartha's Enlightenment his last teachers were practicing Hinduism "vedaantha, in Sanskrit language " Five atheistic, who with Hindu yoga practice couldn't attain "Enlightenment only on , "Dhyaan " states of consciousness, stages is to Moksha. " Not for " Nibbana or liberation " !!! . After Enlightenment Lord Buddha selected to preach his theology {Dhamma } in "marghadee sound language" which later written in "pela dhahama" " pali" it was pure " sinhala" language. In Lanka dweepa. { Jambudweepa } In Buddha Dhamma dependent origination, "patichcha-samuppada " explains how process happening in Human condition & other universal beings. Buddhism is for human beings to extinguish conscious energy forming in this very life. " Kamma " conscious energy, the cause & effect decides after death existence.
Aggna Sutta, Mahawgga Sutta,Four noble truth,Eight Nobie path are supreem teaching Buddha introduced Are there such teaching in other Religion.
I would be interested to see what others recommend, but the following non-Buddhist teachings come to mind: the Principal Upanishads (such as the Isha, Kena, Katha...), the Bhagavad Gita, the Atma Bodha (etc.) of Shankaracharya, and the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali. And I completely agree with you regarding the Buddha's teachings.
Both Buddhism and Vedanta deliver what they say on the tin.
Yes they do!
Advaita Vedanta tell us about Non duality.. So, actually Nonduality = No self. Because if there is "I", it must be there is "you". But the reality is non dual, so there is no I and you.
Sorry for my bad english 😁
Very well said!
And your English is great.
Thank you 😃🙏. And I think Mahavakya - "Tat tvam asi" which is mean that is you or you are that, has also the same meaning with Anatta (no self). Because I, you, that, and everything are essentially the same "thing" (in absolute reality) 😁🙏
@@GR0907 yes!!! That is a great way to think about those two concepts.
Wow you expressed that so well in such simple language. Thanks a lot 👍👍👍
IMHO, Buddhism and Vedanta describe the same spiritual experience in different but equivalent ways. Buddhist way of describing things avoids the concept of God and individual self, which they call Atta, while Advaita Vedanta embraces both as Brahman and Atman, which is just nonindividual, borderless consciousness.
In Mahayana buddhism, the empty, nonself phenomena are often called Tathata (suchness) which seems to me exactly the same as Vedanta's Brahman. Also, Buddhist's pure nonself consciousness, called Bodhi-chit or Buddha-nature, seems to me exactly the same as Advaitin's Atman, which in truth is identical to Brahman.
Nirvana is Moksha. Enlightenment is Self-realization (that atman = Brahman). A Buddha (or an arahant) is a jivanmukta. Buddha-nature is Atman. Tathata is Brahman.
And 1st century Nagarjuna and 8th century Adi Shankara would laugh wholeheartedly together at all those superficial, unimportant differences in using language.
With all these mapping bridges, one could roam with great ease in both paths and benefit from them without any contradictions.
Thank you for this wonderful comment.
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0.000000000000000000000000000000001% information on vedant. Learn more then come to conclusion. Bhudha didn't answer the question on atmah because if he said yes he agrees to aduat and if he says no then what. So he just copied the veda mumble jumble the words and chose not to answer some question. I am just saying that both are same but you can get stuck in budhism. Question yourself then what if not
interesting video 🙌
Thank you!
All religions are not the same, read the Quran and find a more evil religion - you cannot.