Hi, I Just wanted to note that You did not enable the Elementor-Containers which would have led to a much higher performance. You we're telling that you are about to activate them but did Not after you we're redirected to elementors Settings Page. Therefore the whole comparison is outdated yet. Also you should have deactivated the Default Header and Default Footer in Elementor for a better comparison. Besides that it was a very informative Video. Thanks for your good work.
Regardless of using elementor's containers or not Elementor DOM sizes are double the size of bricks and that essentially adds unnecessary DOMs to a page. Bricks by far a very lean and optimized option IMO
@@edanbenatar I don't understand your reply to @bamstian. Containers is part of Elementor and increases its performance. An image optimizer is part of Bricks, and I would have like to see the performance comparison using the containers that's part of Elementor with an image optimizer as well. Without doing that, your comparison seems bias. In my opinion, Elementor has a few pluses. 1 it's mature. 2 It's very easy to use. Bricks also has a few pluses. 1 It produces cleaner code. 2 it's faster out of the box (and will probably always be a little faster). I think Bricks would be great for a web designer who will invest a little time for the steeper learning curve. I think Elementor would be great for the DIY business owner who doesn't want to invest the time on the steeper learning curve.
uhhhm, he did not had to do all those things in Bricks, did he? So the comparison was completely fair. If you need half an hour just setting up, just to be able to start, and get crappy code anyways, regardless the half hour setting up work. It may not be the right tool to use at all. When another tool already does the job perfectly fine, without the need to deactiovating and activating a bunch of stuff. So, that alone is a shame in its self.
Amazing comparison!! To be fair though, Elementor has massively improved over the last few months and if you had enabled the flexbox containers on 4:08 it would’ve been way better too. But still not as sleek as Bricks is.
Been using Elementor for years, but the performance and the issues with the nested tabs has made me look towards Brics. Unfortunately Brics is way behind when it comes to integrations, so we will be using Elementor along with Brics.
As a business owner, I find it interesting that I see several agencies pushing Bricks quite hard, compared to other tools. Looks like Bricks is very cool, stream-lined and highly performant, but it’s harder to learn from a small business perspective and the integrations aren’t quite all there yet (although improving), and therefore i have to rely on my agency even more…
Hey Edan, if I wanted to use Wordpress for a project of mine using a custom coded theme from scratch. Can you somehow be able to integrate the Bricks Builder to work with the custom theme installed that I coded? Thanks for this video!
@@edanbenatar Okay! From your experience using the Bricks theme and as a developer yourself, can you get pretty far with a custom design made in Figma built into the Bricks theme?
Hey Edan, this was a very nice comparison. I never used Elementor for my own projects, but took on a couple pre-existing ones from clients. I was a Beaver Builder user before I switched to Bricks a year ago. Either way you slice it, the difference is night-and-day. On top of all the nested divs you pointed out in Elementor's output, just look at the dozens of classes on them (plus those inline styles!). That makes me shudder at the thought of having to find out where a particular styling is coming from (and what to do about it). Beaver Builder is better at this, but nothing really compares to Bricks these days. In fairness, Bricks is a brand-new product, free to implement the latest tech whereas Elementor's stuck with the tech they implemented when they started out. I mean, with a massive user base like that, they'd have no way to switch to newer tech even if they wanted - or am I wrong? Anyway, I'm a very happy Bricks user. I never enjoy working with Elementor or Divi sites that I work on for clients. Somebody else pointed out below that Elementor gets much faster if you activate a certain setting, "Containers". I wonder if you could re-run a speed comparison with that feature enabled?
Love your response! Elementor with containers still falls short of Bricks. I actually think they'll bite the bullet and change up their tech. It's just a matter of time. Could be as a separate product to let Elementor slowly vanish while the push the new one out.
Sounds a bit biased. Also you did not make a fair comparison. Use containers with elementor and you will have similar result as bricks. The comparison with amount of plugins also made no sense, i would say its about the same. The real difference you mentioned: The amount of integration. Elementor is (unfortunately) king. I would like to switch but we can't. As bad as Elemento is with bugs, we would need too much time with other builders to catch up in those things.
Super video, just what I was looking for. thank you. Small point, when conductiing the speed tests, best to run incgonito with no browser plugins. Thank you again for this, Im done with Elementor and this was the nail in the coffin.
I have had a play with Bricks and it looks pretty cool, but I would say it is aimed at a different user. Elementor is more for designers who just want to drag and drop and never write any code/CSS, whereas bricks seems to be more for developers.
Would you say there is lots of extra coding in Bricks, more then in Elementor? What is it? Even in Elementor I need to do some css tweaks from time to time if the option does not exist.
Yes, you're right. My opinion on that is, if you aren't able to understand the underlying principles of a website (meaning you do not know HTML and CSS and maybe JS), than you should do a little bit of thinking if you are a real web designer and take money for something you don't really know. Because everybody can buy a wrenge, but if you do not know mechanics, you can't fix a car. Even if it is a very fancy wrenge.
@@austropop1970 No it's not at all. But you have the flexibility to so, if you need to. That's a difference. In Elementor you forced to use specialized plugins or do some custom CSS, because you do not get the output you were ask it to give you.
@@foofourtyone to be fair the majority of web designers do not know how to code and have very limited CSS/JS skills if any at all. Thus why builders like Divi, elementor, wix etc are so popular. The average website/client also doesn't really need a developer anyway as their requirements are basic. All the flashy FX and animations most of these builders offer just slow the site down anyway, so are kinda pointless. The bigger issue I have is the lack of skills/knowledge when it comes to security. Almost every single site I work on has none at all. Plugins and themes out of date, WP is often not being updated either. If WP is set to auto update, the plugins and themes will eventually break as they are no longer compatible. No security plugins. Often SSL issues. Multiple users (freelancers) with full admin access clients have no idea any of this is required as nobody told them. Usually, there will be plugins and themes installed which require a licence, so cannot be updated anyway as the designer did not provide any licence key or activate them.
Great comparison. A bit depressing as I have a few Elementor websites, building a new one these days already started with Ele. Feel like my clients aren't getting the best value for money. Performance issues are real. Maybe next project will be Bricks
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This was very informative, thank you for this! I’m struggling with choosing a builder to start my freelance web design business. Elementor was one of the options, but am now definitely crossing that one off the list. I would love to hear your thoughts about bricks vs breakdance. Which one would you recommend and why?
If you have no experience in building sites with a pagebuilder, start with Breakdance or Elementor. The above videos shows you nothing, that might help you with your decision. Bricksbuilder is a class based builder that works very very different then Elementor or Breakdance. To build a website with Bricks might be take for a beginner 5-10 times longer then using Elementor or Breakdance. - To be fully transparent, i am using Bricksbuilder, but i also put 4-5 month time and afford into it, learning all the function and how to use classes.
@@Sascha.Hauser Just to add to this, I think the learning curve is very, very much worth it. You'll be able to work that much more professionally and build scalable, maintainable websites. I will say, though, that I've spent around 24 years learning all this (first as a hobby, later professionally), so I don't blame anybody who feels intimidated by learning HTML and CSS first when "easy" solutions like Elementor, Breakdance etc. are available. Just be aware that they're more amateur-friendly tools while Bricks is a pro tool.
Forgot to include the obligatory mention of Kevin Geary's Page Building 101 class. th-cam.com/video/-huJ-SbO3BI/w-d-xo.html I guess you're aware of it anyway, or at least of Kevin, but it's still worth pointing out. The first two videos are very powerful and value-packed on their own, and it just gets better from there.
@@Sascha.Hauser My experience with page builders is very limited, but I do have experience hand coding sites with html, sass and bootstrap. So I like the fact that Bricks kind of fits the workflow I’m used to. My main concern is that I want to get the job done as quickly as possible and don’t want to wind up having to hand code every single thing. Breakdance seems to offer more shortcuts like templates and stuff right out of the box. So I’m still on the fence about it, but am leaning more towards Bricks at the moment.
Anddddd, don't forget you had a cache plugin installed... Without it, the difference between Elementor and Bricks would be even bigger, specially with Elementor Pro installed... That being said, they did improve performance over time and if you enable the different optimisation features AND use the new way of building things (i.e. flexbox and grids), the difference in performance and number of divs diminishes a lot...
@@foofourtyone No, my answer refered to editing a page in Elementor. So I was not refering to 'all website users' but only to the person who is editing a site built with Elementor.
@@user-cr2sp7my8h And they shouldn't be free in choosing a browser because the page builder can't handle it? Got it! Weird business policy for a 1000 bugs a year, but ok.
Nice video. You are using the old Elementor columns. also, the Elementor site is loading the header and footer from the theme which bricks is not. Anyway I know bricks is getting a lot of hype recently but anytime I try it I see it lacking soo much, In my honest opinion if you will move from Elementor then you should rather bry breakdance instead of bricks. I know many of you don't like the creator of Breakdance but it is a superior builder compared to bricks
Time will tell...... when we bought Elementor it was a very young builder and a lot of people was still using WP bakery, Divi, Beaver.... but Elementor was the new thing and it was praised by the niche. Now Elementor is the present day WP Bakery and this is the one praised by the niche...... time will tell. That said, the only way to make a performant and tailored webpage was, and still is, to code it yourself. Builders are and will always be a comprmoise.
The huge number of nags in Elementor are off the hook and has me moving to Bricks like many, many others. It's ridiculous. When I pay for a premium product I don't want to be pestered non-stop.
Good comparison but the title is misleading as this is really a performance comparison, not so much a features comparison which I was more curious about. Also I'm baffled why you needed a child theme in for Elementor for this demo. Thanks for your efforts though.
Of course it is $249 ONES IN A LIVE TIME. Whereas for Elementor you pay all the time and you're still not able to get the outcome you're suppose to get from a true page builder. Now I am wondering, who's the brick here?
two things Either bricks really performing good or just hype sponsored builder. I am not complaining just my opinion, lets see is the bricks builder really good
@@edanbenatar with bricks you have a much bether system , i compere it somethimes with dreamweaver , but then on a server online . so far no other cms gives that good feeling . bricks is the tip of the speer .
So, what you are saying is, the builder should not function the same in any environment? And one should choose a page builder depending on the browser one prefers to use?
Hi, I Just wanted to note that You did not enable the Elementor-Containers which would have led to a much higher performance. You we're telling that you are about to activate them but did Not after you we're redirected to elementors Settings Page.
Therefore the whole comparison is outdated yet. Also you should have deactivated the Default Header and Default Footer in Elementor for a better comparison.
Besides that it was a very informative Video. Thanks for your good work.
Exactly what I was about to write myself!
Regardless of using elementor's containers or not Elementor DOM sizes are double the size of bricks and that essentially adds unnecessary DOMs to a page. Bricks by far a very lean and optimized option IMO
Exactly. I wouldn't be surprised if Elementor released a theme as a new product one day.
@@edanbenatar I don't understand your reply to @bamstian. Containers is part of Elementor and increases its performance. An image optimizer is part of Bricks, and I would have like to see the performance comparison using the containers that's part of Elementor with an image optimizer as well. Without doing that, your comparison seems bias.
In my opinion, Elementor has a few pluses. 1 it's mature. 2 It's very easy to use. Bricks also has a few pluses. 1 It produces cleaner code. 2 it's faster out of the box (and will probably always be a little faster). I think Bricks would be great for a web designer who will invest a little time for the steeper learning curve. I think Elementor would be great for the DIY business owner who doesn't want to invest the time on the steeper learning curve.
uhhhm, he did not had to do all those things in Bricks, did he? So the comparison was completely fair. If you need half an hour just setting up, just to be able to start, and get crappy code anyways, regardless the half hour setting up work. It may not be the right tool to use at all. When another tool already does the job perfectly fine, without the need to deactiovating and activating a bunch of stuff. So, that alone is a shame in its self.
Perfect explanation of the variance that nobody else has done in this way. Thank you so much for this valuable insight.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Amazing comparison!! To be fair though, Elementor has massively improved over the last few months and if you had enabled the flexbox containers on 4:08 it would’ve been way better too. But still not as sleek as Bricks is.
Been using Elementor for years, but the performance and the issues with the nested tabs has made me look towards Brics. Unfortunately Brics is way behind when it comes to integrations, so we will be using Elementor along with Brics.
To be fair, current Elementor is using the flex system with containers and is much better than the shown version.
As a business owner, I find it interesting that I see several agencies pushing Bricks quite hard, compared to other tools. Looks like Bricks is very cool, stream-lined and highly performant, but it’s harder to learn from a small business perspective and the integrations aren’t quite all there yet (although improving), and therefore i have to rely on my agency even more…
Nice comparison!
Thanks! :)
I'm glad to have come across your channel here Edan, loved the video.
Glad you enjoyed it! :)
Hey Edan, if I wanted to use Wordpress for a project of mine using a custom coded theme from scratch. Can you somehow be able to integrate the Bricks Builder to work with the custom theme installed that I coded?
Thanks for this video!
You need the Bricks theme to be active so this wouldn't be possible.
@@edanbenatar Okay! From your experience using the Bricks theme and as a developer yourself, can you get pretty far with a custom design made in Figma built into the Bricks theme?
@@bruhtrippin6795yes. You can make pixel perfect designs with bricks if you know what you're doing.
@@Zp00kie although a pixel perfect design would be a very bad idea, since the web is very dynamic and nobody should use pixels anyways.
Hi Edan, its an informative video. Please compare bricks and breakdance as well. Thanks
I'll try to get around to it! :)
Hola, tengo mi ecommerce en elementor con una platilla de Xstore, y quisiera migrar la web a bricks que pasos deberia seguir gracias !
You'll have to rebuild it from the ground up. Sounds like a great way to get the hang of Bricks and all that it has to offer!
Hey Edan, this was a very nice comparison. I never used Elementor for my own projects, but took on a couple pre-existing ones from clients. I was a Beaver Builder user before I switched to Bricks a year ago. Either way you slice it, the difference is night-and-day.
On top of all the nested divs you pointed out in Elementor's output, just look at the dozens of classes on them (plus those inline styles!). That makes me shudder at the thought of having to find out where a particular styling is coming from (and what to do about it). Beaver Builder is better at this, but nothing really compares to Bricks these days.
In fairness, Bricks is a brand-new product, free to implement the latest tech whereas Elementor's stuck with the tech they implemented when they started out. I mean, with a massive user base like that, they'd have no way to switch to newer tech even if they wanted - or am I wrong? Anyway, I'm a very happy Bricks user. I never enjoy working with Elementor or Divi sites that I work on for clients.
Somebody else pointed out below that Elementor gets much faster if you activate a certain setting, "Containers". I wonder if you could re-run a speed comparison with that feature enabled?
Love your response! Elementor with containers still falls short of Bricks. I actually think they'll bite the bullet and change up their tech. It's just a matter of time. Could be as a separate product to let Elementor slowly vanish while the push the new one out.
Sounds a bit biased. Also you did not make a fair comparison. Use containers with elementor and you will have similar result as bricks. The comparison with amount of plugins also made no sense, i would say its about the same. The real difference you mentioned: The amount of integration. Elementor is (unfortunately) king. I would like to switch but we can't. As bad as Elemento is with bugs, we would need too much time with other builders to catch up in those things.
Regardless, to how you set Elementor up, it'll fall short to Bricks.
Super video, just what I was looking for. thank you.
Small point, when conductiing the speed tests, best to run incgonito with no browser plugins.
Thank you again for this, Im done with Elementor and this was the nail in the coffin.
I have had a play with Bricks and it looks pretty cool, but I would say it is aimed at a different user.
Elementor is more for designers who just want to drag and drop and never write any code/CSS, whereas bricks seems to be more for developers.
Would you say there is lots of extra coding in Bricks, more then in Elementor? What is it? Even in Elementor I need to do some css tweaks from time to time if the option does not exist.
Yes, you're right. My opinion on that is, if you aren't able to understand the underlying principles of a website (meaning you do not know HTML and CSS and maybe JS), than you should do a little bit of thinking if you are a real web designer and take money for something you don't really know. Because everybody can buy a wrenge, but if you do not know mechanics, you can't fix a car. Even if it is a very fancy wrenge.
@@austropop1970 No it's not at all. But you have the flexibility to so, if you need to. That's a difference. In Elementor you forced to use specialized plugins or do some custom CSS, because you do not get the output you were ask it to give you.
@@foofourtyone to be fair the majority of web designers do not know how to code and have very limited CSS/JS skills if any at all. Thus why builders like Divi, elementor, wix etc are so popular.
The average website/client also doesn't really need a developer anyway as their requirements are basic.
All the flashy FX and animations most of these builders offer just slow the site down anyway, so are kinda pointless.
The bigger issue I have is the lack of skills/knowledge when it comes to security.
Almost every single site I work on has none at all.
Plugins and themes out of date, WP is often not being updated either. If WP is set to auto update, the plugins and themes will eventually break as they are no longer compatible.
No security plugins. Often SSL issues.
Multiple users (freelancers) with full admin access
clients have no idea any of this is required as nobody told them.
Usually, there will be plugins and themes installed which require a licence, so cannot be updated anyway as the designer did not provide any licence key or activate them.
Great comparison. A bit depressing as I have a few Elementor websites, building a new one these days already started with Ele. Feel like my clients aren't getting the best value for money. Performance issues are real. Maybe next project will be Bricks
Better late than never! We went through the same process after dealing with a bunch of Elementor issues.
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Just what I needed to see right now. Not happy anymore with Elementor and looking deeper into Bricks. Seems you had the same issue some time ago :)
Totally. Elementor needs to be rebuilt from the ground up.
This was very informative, thank you for this! I’m struggling with choosing a builder to start my freelance web design business. Elementor was one of the options, but am now definitely crossing that one off the list. I would love to hear your thoughts about bricks vs breakdance. Which one would you recommend and why?
If you have no experience in building sites with a pagebuilder, start with Breakdance or Elementor. The above videos shows you nothing, that might help you with your decision. Bricksbuilder is a class based builder that works very very different then Elementor or Breakdance. To build a website with Bricks might be take for a beginner 5-10 times longer then using Elementor or Breakdance. - To be fully transparent, i am using Bricksbuilder, but i also put 4-5 month time and afford into it, learning all the function and how to use classes.
@@Sascha.Hauser Just to add to this, I think the learning curve is very, very much worth it. You'll be able to work that much more professionally and build scalable, maintainable websites. I will say, though, that I've spent around 24 years learning all this (first as a hobby, later professionally), so I don't blame anybody who feels intimidated by learning HTML and CSS first when "easy" solutions like Elementor, Breakdance etc. are available. Just be aware that they're more amateur-friendly tools while Bricks is a pro tool.
Forgot to include the obligatory mention of Kevin Geary's Page Building 101 class. th-cam.com/video/-huJ-SbO3BI/w-d-xo.html I guess you're aware of it anyway, or at least of Kevin, but it's still worth pointing out. The first two videos are very powerful and value-packed on their own, and it just gets better from there.
@@Sascha.Hauser My experience with page builders is very limited, but I do have experience hand coding sites with html, sass and bootstrap. So I like the fact that Bricks kind of fits the workflow I’m used to. My main concern is that I want to get the job done as quickly as possible and don’t want to wind up having to hand code every single thing. Breakdance seems to offer more shortcuts like templates and stuff right out of the box. So I’m still on the fence about it, but am leaning more towards Bricks at the moment.
@@mr.matt.eastwood Yes, I'm aware of Kevin. I'll check that out, thanks!
Very good video, thanks!
Glad you liked it! :)
Elementor page has an extra heading?
That's the default page style. You have to change it to a clean canvas.
@@edanbenatar Yes, but it does add to the page load. Not much, but something...
@@thebottomband if it were an image or some big object I might agree. An additional heading tag doesn't do much to performance
@@edanbenatar That's true. Thanks for the video!
Anddddd, don't forget you had a cache plugin installed... Without it, the difference between Elementor and Bricks would be even bigger, specially with Elementor Pro installed...
That being said, they did improve performance over time and if you enable the different optimisation features AND use the new way of building things (i.e. flexbox and grids), the difference in performance and number of divs diminishes a lot...
Elementor running in Firefox as a browser is a bad combination. When you use Chrome there are no issues with loading a page or editing in Elementor.
So what you're suggesting is, all the website users should only use Chrome? A true page builder should be able to run in any browser. Shouldn't it?
@@foofourtyone No, my answer refered to editing a page in Elementor. So I was not refering to 'all website users' but only to the person who is editing a site built with Elementor.
@@user-cr2sp7my8h And they shouldn't be free in choosing a browser because the page builder can't handle it? Got it! Weird business policy for a 1000 bugs a year, but ok.
This is an awesome comparison and is exactly what I needed to hear. Thanks!
Appreciate the love! 🙌
Nice video. You are using the old Elementor columns. also, the Elementor site is loading the header and footer from the theme which bricks is not. Anyway I know bricks is getting a lot of hype recently but anytime I try it I see it lacking soo much, In my honest opinion if you will move from Elementor then you should rather bry breakdance instead of bricks. I know many of you don't like the creator of Breakdance but it is a superior builder compared to bricks
Time will tell...... when we bought Elementor it was a very young builder and a lot of people was still using WP bakery, Divi, Beaver.... but Elementor was the new thing and it was praised by the niche. Now Elementor is the present day WP Bakery and this is the one praised by the niche...... time will tell.
That said, the only way to make a performant and tailored webpage was, and still is, to code it yourself. Builders are and will always be a comprmoise.
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Thanks for watching! :)
The huge number of nags in Elementor are off the hook and has me moving to Bricks like many, many others. It's ridiculous. When I pay for a premium product I don't want to be pestered non-stop.
You'll love Bricks! It’s much more reliable.
Good comparison but the title is misleading as this is really a performance comparison, not so much a features comparison which I was more curious about. Also I'm baffled why you needed a child theme in for Elementor for this demo. Thanks for your efforts though.
Thanks for the infomercial... Bricks looks more like a $249 brick to me.
Of course it is $249 ONES IN A LIVE TIME. Whereas for Elementor you pay all the time and you're still not able to get the outcome you're suppose to get from a true page builder. Now I am wondering, who's the brick here?
stay away from elementor, if you had to pick GO WITH BRICKS!
i would recommend Breakdance :)
Yep! 💪
But you have to learn more in Bricks to get a website look good. Sure, it’s worth it ;)
I would go with breakdance. Bricks is just hyped
two things Either bricks really performing good or just hype sponsored builder.
I am not complaining just my opinion, lets see is the bricks builder really good
its a firefox problem , if you design in elementor with google chrome , your problem is fixed .
I've tried using Elementor in several browsers over the years and still find it to be a pain in the ass.
@@edanbenatar with bricks you have a much bether system , i compere it somethimes with dreamweaver , but then on a server online .
so far no other cms gives that good feeling .
bricks is the tip of the speer .
So, what you are saying is, the builder should not function the same in any environment? And one should choose a page builder depending on the browser one prefers to use?