How would the Rest of the Fellowship fair with Carrying the One Ring? | Lord of the Rings
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 พ.ค. 2024
- In this thrilling episode, we embark on an epic journey to uncover the hidden heroes of the Fellowship of the Ring who might have had what it takes to bear the One Ring to the treacherous lands of Mordor. We'll leave Boromir aside (poor Boromir...) and focus on the likes of Gandalf, Aragorn, Merry, Pippin, Gimli, Legolas, and Sam. Could any of these beloved characters have taken on the monumental task?
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Always nice to see you delving into other franchises. And it's a neat thought experiment too 😊
Come rain or shine your always one of the first in Jeremy along with Warlord 😂 Thanks for watching! We know most just come for our thrones stuff but occasionally we like to do vids just for the fun of it, me and Thom love LOTR and we thought it would be a fun one while we wait for some of the Tyrell vid bits that we outsourced to get back to us, we've got a Mountain style vid in the works too, but with Durins Bane instead, should also be fun!
@@shifterverse The Balrog? Awesome, I look forward to it. I'm just gonna go ahead and guess that Saruman is one of your picks for those who could beat it 😉
Check Liam out coming into the comments to find info on who could defeat the Balrog - Thom 😂😂
@@TheFandomeClips whaaaaaaaat 😂
@@jeremy1860 aye Jeremy the Balrog, The white wizard is definitely in our research pile ;)
Slight correction. Isildur wasn’t weak, in fact he was very strong, and pure of heart. This was the case so much that Isildur claimed the ring only as repayment for the deaths of his father and brother, and spent years trying to master the ring, meanwhile resisting the ring’s corruption. His journey to Rivendell, on top of it being to reunite with the north, was also to inquire about the ring further, hence why the ring betrayed him. He actually is the only man to not be fully corrupted by any ring in his possession, let alone the one ring, having died because the ring knew that staying with him would result in it failing to reunite with Sauron by elven interference.
Oh we're going to do a vid on Isildur been done dirty, by weakness we meant he couldn't bring himself to destroy it when he had the chance, Isildur was done so dirty by the movies that show him as this fratboy selfish douche when he's one of the strongest and most noble men to have ever existed. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts! Liam
Isildur was not only powerful, but vastly more powerful than Aragorn.
@@fathel9221 Based on what? Greater warrior probably stronger willpower not likly!
I agree by he literally tells his son when they are surrounded by the orca that “I cannot wield it, it requires someone with a stronger will that I now know I don’t have. It should go to the holders of the three.”
@@shifterverseI look forward to said video (if its not already published and I simply haven’t found it). Even, at least, a 5min vid about him.
At first Aragorn’s placing threw me, but you mentioning that the blood of men already tempted runs through his veins is a strong point. Though I’m loathe to admit it, he isn’t better than the Hobbits, Elves, or Dwarves.
Its also because of how freaking badass he is too, bit like Gandalf, he might not master the ring or truly wield it but he's likely able to squeeze a decent amount of juice from it 😂 a ring wielding Aragon is quite a scary thought, not enough to make Sauron shit his pants but I bet the witch King would be looking over his shoulder 😂
Glad you guys are doing LOTR content
Thanks Hiltshurt, we know anything non thrones related doesn't really "pop" for us but we have so much fun with other franchises, especially one as awesome as LOTR 😂 Thanks for watching! Liam
@@shifterverse YT hates when you step outside of your content circle. They really want you to niche down, which can get really boring lol.
@@OurHiltsHurt we're finding that out the hard way, our star wars video also bombed hard too despite it having similar production values 😂 don't get me wrong we love thrones but its nice to do different sometimes 😂
Ok, now discuss which LotR characters could beat the Mountain 😂
But seriously, some cross-over vs battles would be cool.
Oh, I'm sure this wouldn't be hotly contested at all...
Here's who I would consider possible to at least get as far as Lothlorien: Frodo (duh), Sam, and maybe Gimli
Gandalf, as you point out, is the worst possible choice to bear the One: "DO NOT TEMPT ME!"
Boromir was falling to the Ring's influence from an early point, in the films almost from the start while the books imply Lothlorien.
Aragorn is simply too stronk to successfully resist the Ring.
Legolas has the least characterization in both the books and films, so it's hard to tell what the Ring would tempt him with. Even as a Sindar elf, he's a powerful being and liable to corruption.
Pippin...oh Pippin isn't going to make it through Moria if he's Ring-Bearer. He might actually have thrown himself down the shaft if the Ring controlled his intrusive thoughts.
I think Gimli might actually resist until Moria, at least before they find Balin's tomb. Then the Ring would tempt him into claiming the power to restore Khazad-dum.
Merry would break in the Dead Marshes, if not before. In comparison to Gimli, I think the dwarf actually has greater will saves but Moria would be enough to tip him over early. I also want to point out how Merry appears to be drawn to the Nazgul like a moth to a flame--he's compelled to get a whiff of the Black Breath in Bree, and then of course there is his contribution to the defeat of the Witch-King. This would imply that, unlike Frodo, he would not be able to subdue the Ring calling to Sauron's servants.
Sam could have done fulfilled the Quest if Frodo died at end of Two Towers, or at least get the Ring as far as Frodo did.
Warlord has entered the chat! Fair points in all honesty! I've heard some say Merry could do it all the way and I have to severely suppress the book snob in me that compels me to mention your same points 😂 thanks for stopping in as always warlord! Liam
I agree with Sam doing it even if Frodo died in Rivendell I think it could make him bear the ring in honor of the quest that Frodo started and that he would finish
Pretty much agree with the list though might drop pippin a space since he seems prime gollem 2.0 material, I'd also mention that gimli would be a bigger threat if he gets to the fires and decides not to throw it in, much easier to push a hobbit in than a dwarf warrior
😂 haha very true Kyle, I'd certainly rather try to throw Frodo in the fire than an angry Dwarf as renowned a warrior as Gimli 😂 thanks for watching!
We have to remember even Frodo refused to destroy the ring when he actually reached Mount Doom, proving that no one could fully resist the temptation of the one ring at its strongest. Sam might actually be better than Frodo in some ways because he cares more for the simple things and wants nothing more than to return to Rosie and the Shire while Frodo wants in some way to follow Bilbo's footsteps as an adventurer.
This is true, I would have certainly put my money on Sam, had Frodo gone down to be morgal blade thats for sure! Liam
Sam gave up the Ring willingly.
Agreed with Gandalf and Boromir, but Pippin should be next honestly, as he already couldn't overcome his curiosity for the Palantir, while Aragorn matched Sauron when he watched into the Palantir. Gimli would actually be number 2. Don't forget, he got the favor of the Lady Galadriel herself.
In the Lord of the Rings verse, i think the characters (Not only the Fellowship and not counting Tom Bombadil) that would be least impacted by the ring are
1. Sam
2. Gimli
3. Frodo
4. Aragorn
5. Glorfindel
6. Halbarad
7. King Theodon
8. Legolas
My question is how would the fellowship go if it weren't broken. What if Gandalf survived made the fellowship out of Moria, what if they manage to defeat the Uruk-hai and Lurtz and saving Merry, Pippin and Boromir and continued to Rohan, to Minas Tirith to Black gate and to Mordor? Could they do it? What would they do after passing Amon Hen if they all survived the first movie?
This is a fantastic video idea, I'm adding it to the list! Thanks for watching!
Gandalf if he was in the fellowship in Amonn Hen would probably had advised Frodo take Sam and go the same way he did anyway.If Gandalf had followed Frodo Sauron might have sensed such a stronng beeing close to hes Land and they would had been find and going by Rohan and Minas Tirith first would take to long time then Sauron probably had put all hes armies between them and Mordor!
They would have failed, I don’t know how or why but while it’s only implied it is pretty clear in the books that everything that happened to them was Eru Ilúvatar’s (the creator god in Tolkien’s Legendarium) will, this means that it was the only way it could happen, oh don’t get me wrong they weren’t pawns of some cruel cosmic entity that wanted to have it’s way no matter what, but Ilúvatar wanted that Ring destroyed at that time and way because it was the best and possibly the only good outcome possible.
@@drewjohnson-85 This is quite true. Very fun to speculate on, but I think even if Gandalf had made it through Moria and the Fellowship had remained united at Amon Hen, there would have had to have been a split at some point because Aragon was needed to rally the race of men and there's also Gollum to consider, it's only Frodos pity and Sams loyalty to Frodo that saves him, other members of the fellowship may not have been as merciful or willing to listen to Frodo. Should still make for a fun discussion though!
@@shifterverse ahhh.. quite correct but your missing something, the reason Gandalf needed to die and be sent back he needed to become Gandalf the White cloaked in gray with out that he may not have been able to stop Saruman, your quiet right that it’s fun to play what if, because it shows you just how good at storytelling Tolkien was, as near as I can tell absolutely everything had to happen the way it happened or everything would have fallen apart, to make the illusion of that kind of divine intervention, with that level of subtlety, it’s a brilliant piece of work.
I think Mary and pippin would’ve been good Mary with the ring and Pippen helping
To give Sam his full credit it would be more correct to say that he is the only ring bearer that willingly gave it up (by himself). In the book, Frodo does not even show the ring for most of the council let alone plonk it in the middle. Bilbo only gave it up with Gandalf's help and almost certainly wouldn't have been able to do so otherwise. Tom can hardly be called a ring bearer even if he tossed it around and tried it on, the ring obviously had no effect on him, unlike all other characters. Isildur was on his way to Rivendell to probably give up the ring as he had not been able to master it and he recognised its danger, so maybe he might have been able.
I do think it would be a very interesting dynamic to see what would happen if Aragorn's plan had been carried out, with Frodo, Sam, Gimli, and Aragorn crossing the Anduin. How would the ring have influenced Gimli and Aragorn as they got closer and closer to Mordor?
Its a super interesting speculation. Thats why we placed Gimli so high, for him to be Aragorns pick alongside himself and Sam shows how noble and resilient the Dwarf was.
@@TheFandomeClips definitely, and as referenced in the video we know that the dwarfs cannot be controlled by the rings, but I think you're right that Gimli and anyone for that matter is not capable of destroying the ring themselves as its allure is simply too powerful.
The Ring would have influenced Gimli the least, aside from Sam. It also shows that out of the fellowship, he trusted Gimli the most (Since we also shouldn't forget Sam was only elected by Aragorn to come because Sam would never allow Frodo to go without him, so realistically, it was only Aragorn and Gimli alongside Frodo if it wasn't for Sam).
The best bet was to give Pippin so much Pipeweed then weekend at Bernie's his way to Mordor then just shove him into mount doom. Either that or have Mary and Sam swap the ring back and forth then at mount doom have Gimli take the ring and jump into the mountain with it, as taking your wealth to your grave is actually a very dwarven thing to do.
Pretty good suggestion that mikleangelo Gimli would have to go willingly though, I can't see it been easy pushing a dwarf into the lava 😂
I'd put Pippin below Legolas but otherwise agree. Although I think Merry or Legolas would certainly make the most interesting choices for ring bearer.
We didn't mention it but Legolas being the Prince of Mirkwood would be interesting. If he would fall in the same pitfalls as Aragorn or if the fortress of Dol Guldur would be a factor at all.
Legolas is a funny bugger, he shows next to no interest in the ring whatsoever (despite his race been the primary target) but we always kind of thought it was because the ring had chosen Boromir as its main target to get it home.
Thanks for watching! Liam
Even if Gandalf took the ring and the rest of middle earth fell, the hobbits would still be safe because they have good weed
😂😂😂 so true
Gandalf wouldn’t even touch the Ring let alone bear it.
What if someone nudged the ring into a sack and then carried that sack at the end of a long stick. Would they still be affected by the ring?
Dam, If only Middle Earth had the equivalent of myth busters 😂 I want to see this tried. In seriousness though, I think the Ring basically picks it's target and latches on like a leech on their soul. It sort of "calls" to whom ever it thinks it can corrupt, whether they're touching it or not. I believe this is why it got to Boromir and cracked him, and could also pull at Smeagol even when they weren't touching it. Thanks for watching! Liam
Woah, are we not going to discuss which Middle Earth characters that could defeat the Mountain?
i mean, not even frodo was able to destroy it, i mean he carried it there (sort of) but no one could destroy it, kind of the point. EDIT: i wrote this after your intro but you mentioned this at around 11 mins in to the video
Haha no worries 😂 yeah we were very careful not to suggest that anyone but Frodo had the potential to get that far, as Tolkien said Frodo deserved all the honour, noone could have made it as far as he did. Crazy to think the Ring could prevent itself been destroyed through will but couldn't prevent itself been destroyed by clumsiness 😂😂😂 thanks for watching! Liam
I think a Dwarf might actually be able to throw it in they cant be corrupted and hate beeing controlled
so mayby
I wamt to emphasise that there is a difference between „give up the ring“ and destroy the ring. Frodo laying it on the table in the council of Elrond and offering it to Galadriel and even Bilbo passing it down is not the same as Frodo trying to throw the ring into the fire at bagend where he couldnt do it even before he went on the quest.
If we take Bilbo at the start of the story, on his Birthday, could he have made it? He was old and tired but not withered since he still kept the ring close. With Frodo's resources, could Bilbo have made it? He was always planning on setting out to walk the world and finish his book.
I think he may have been a touch too old mate, Frodo was 50 by the time he started the journey and he made it only with a push from Sam and there's good evidence to suggest that Illuvitar themselves also gave then a final little nudge on Mt Doom itself. I think a younger Bilbo might have faired pretty good though, I mean he is one of four who have up the ring willingly and that was after many years of it ensnaring him. He might have actually been able to throw it in where Frodo couldn't if Gandalf was there to encourage him
Thanks for watching as always Randy! Liam
Was Sauron concerned about what Aragorn could do with the One Ring or was he trying to put the smack down on the last Defense of the Free West? Yes, his paranoia plus his ego means that he was probably doing both, in reality he was very concerned about what the last descendent of Beren and Lúthian who was also descendent from the Royal Family of Gondolin, and the last heir of the leaders of the Faithful of the Númenoreans could do with his Ring, but he would never admit this, even to himself so he planned the battle as crush the West and get the Ring back
I agree Both Legolas and Ganndalf said he was afraid of Aragorn and Aragorn had insane willpower so he could actually use the ring as a weapon!
@@skaraturbo Aragorn beat Sauron in a contest of will over the Palantir. You beat that Sauron was starting to get nervous at that point.
If Gandalf could do telekinesis on the one ring would it still corrupt him and would he still be counted as a ring bearer? He not touching it, just using his wizard power of Telekinesis.
I think so its probably enough to be close to the ring.